Re: [coreboot] latest greatest thinkpad with coreboot

2016-12-01 Thread ron minnich
If people are trying native graphics init I still think it's worth trying the SPARK stuff from nico at least once. It seems more complete to me than teh stuff I started. On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 2:54 PM Klemens Nanni wrote: > On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 11:35:36AM -0700, Trammell Hudson wrote: > >The

[coreboot] latest greatest thinkpad with coreboot

2016-12-01 Thread ron minnich
what's the latest best one? What's the battery life like (can't be worse than this mac pro that's always hot and now seems to have a life of 90 minutes, always). How much dram/ssd can I jam in it? thanks -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org https://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/co

[coreboot] non-coreboot question on gnu ldscripts

2016-12-01 Thread ron minnich
Apologies in advance: this is not a coreboot question but I'm counting on coreboot expertise. I need to find a way to force the value of the segment alignment variable. The problem is that on the riscv gld, they want to align segments on 4k boundaries. I need them aligned on 2M boundaries. Note t

Re: [coreboot] Rettungsboot

2016-11-30 Thread ron minnich
OK, then someone just asked me: how long does it take to rewrite that 128 MiB vs. the 512 byte sector on the floppy. :-) On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:18 PM ron minnich wrote: > amusement value: > > The 512 bytes used for MBR is about .04% of the 8" floppy disk that > shipped with

Re: [coreboot] Rettungsboot

2016-11-30 Thread ron minnich
amusement value: The 512 bytes used for MBR is about .04% of the 8" floppy disk that shipped with the original IBM PC. For 128 MB to be that fraction of a new disk, the disk would have to be 256 GiB. That's about $40 worth of disk. Geez. On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:00 AM Zoran Stojsavljevic < zo

Re: [coreboot] Rettungsboot

2016-11-30 Thread ron minnich
hey, peter, code wins :-) go for it On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:08 AM Peter Stuge wrote: > Julius Werner wrote: > > If you really can't stand the idea of BIOS interrupts and real mode, > > I for one can't. > > > > I think your next best option would be to try to cram an > > as-small-as-possible b

Re: [coreboot] Rettungsboot

2016-11-28 Thread ron minnich
"Oflags": [ "-static" ], "Post": [ "rm -f *.o" ], "Pre": [ "rm -f *.o *.tag.*" ] } } On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 1:15 PM David Hendricks via coreboot < coreboot@coreboot.org> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Peter Stuge wrote:

Re: [coreboot] Rettungsboot

2016-11-27 Thread ron minnich
On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 5:58 PM Charlotte Plusplus < pluspluscharlo...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know about you, but once I have a minimal working kernel or a > coreboot fallback, I never really update them. So having no way to recover > them without hardware intervention is fine. The kernel I m

Re: [coreboot] Rettungsboot

2016-11-27 Thread ron minnich
configure/what to download/how to validate (we have a gpgv command written in Go by Eric Grosse) and then how to kexec it. I think what we're doing might be useful? ron On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 6:04 PM David Hendricks wrote: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 2:46 PM, ron minnich wrote: >

Re: [coreboot] Rettungsboot

2016-11-27 Thread ron minnich
On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 4:22 PM Charlotte Plusplus < pluspluscharlo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > In my ideal scenario, coreboot would have the 2 images (normal, fallback) > both starting the same payload (a minimal linux kernel) to save space. > at Los Alamos we found we wanted a fallback kernel an

Re: [coreboot] [RFC] Setting C99 by default

2016-11-27 Thread ron minnich
Seems reasonable, but on Harvey recently we went with c11. Any reason not to do that instead? On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 2:09 PM Paul Menzel via coreboot < coreboot@coreboot.org> wrote: > Dear coreboot folks, > > > Using GCC 4.9.2 coreboot fails to build for certain boards, whose code > uses ‘for’ l

Re: [coreboot] Rettungsboot

2016-11-27 Thread ron minnich
On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 1:03 AM Zoran Stojsavljevic < zoran.stojsavlje...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'll again repeat what I always believe in, and always advertise(d) here, > and anywhere else: Coreboot is one excellent absolute minimum required for > booting HW platform to the next step: OS boot loa

Re: [coreboot] Rettungsboot

2016-11-26 Thread ron minnich
: > > * HEADS - https://github.com/osresearch/heads > > * Petitboot - https://secure.raptorengineering.com/content/kb/1.html > > I am currently working on the UI of Heads. So feel free to contribute ;) > > > Best Regards > > Zaolin > > On 11/26/2016 11:47 PM, ron minnic

Re: [coreboot] Rettungsboot

2016-11-26 Thread ron minnich
coreboot today is linuxbios minus the linux. The original intent was always that linux be our lifeboat. The current set of (as you point out) not terrific options is a result of linux growing too big for flash, and flash growing too big for linux, ca. 2002, when we adopted the payload model. The or

Re: [coreboot] Rettungsboot

2016-11-26 Thread ron minnich
Oh, my fingers type too much for me now. The current set of (as you point out) not terrific options is a result of linux growing too big for flash, and flash growing too SMALL for linux, ca. 2002, when we adopted the payload model. On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 3:46 PM ron minnich wrote: > coreb

Re: [coreboot] native video init question

2016-11-24 Thread ron minnich
we've seen. Keep me posted on anything you need. Thanks ron On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 12:01 PM Nico Huber wrote: > Hi, > > On 20.11.2016 21:29, ron minnich wrote: > > I also wonder if you could use the code Nico put in for the graphics > init. > > I have no idea if

Re: [coreboot] DMA protection? [AMD-Vi]

2016-11-21 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 10:54 AM Rudolf Marek wrote: > > > BME is ignored by Intel integrated graphics - the DMA runs even if the BME > is > clear (this happens on core i7 chipsets for example) Thus thatswhy it > needs RMRR > IOMMU range for VGA... > > wow. It's amazing how many of the PCI viola

Re: [coreboot] DMA protection? [AMD-Vi]

2016-11-21 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 9:21 AM Timothy Pearson < tpear...@raptorengineering.com> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/21/2016 10:43 AM, ron minnich wrote: > > Talidan, just be aware, you can spend the money on enabling IOMMU in > > cor

Re: [coreboot] DMA protection? [AMD-Vi]

2016-11-21 Thread ron minnich
Talidan, just be aware, you can spend the money on enabling IOMMU in coreboot, but you should not just assumed that it gets upstreamed. Enabling IOMMU on one implementation of one CPU from one vendor for one generation is not a really compelling idea, at least for me. You don't want to confuse yo

Re: [coreboot] DMA protection? [AMD-Vi]

2016-11-21 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 7:53 AM Timothy Pearson < tpear...@raptorengineering.com> wrote: > > > A quick check through the source seems to indicate that the generic > pci_set_resource function will enable bus mastering on any PCI bridges. > From that point on, if I'm not mistaken, any malicious dev

Re: [coreboot] DMA protection? [AMD-Vi]

2016-11-20 Thread ron minnich
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 3:49 PM Kyösti Mälkki wrote: > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 1:36 AM, ron minnich wrote: > > The way coreboot has always enforced DMA protections is to not set bus > master enabling on IO devices. I trust that particular setting a lot more > than I trust trying

Re: [coreboot] DMA protection? [AMD-Vi]

2016-11-20 Thread ron minnich
print a warning for each one found? On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 3:52 PM ron minnich wrote: > On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 3:49 PM Kyösti Mälkki > wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 1:36 AM, ron minnich wrote: > > The way coreboot has always enforced DMA protections is to not set bus

Re: [coreboot] DMA protection? [AMD-Vi]

2016-11-20 Thread ron minnich
The way coreboot has always enforced DMA protections is to not set bus master enabling on IO devices. I trust that particular setting a lot more than I trust trying to configure an IOMMU, given that such configuration seems to require trying to parse ACPI DMAR tables. If you will now tell me that s

Re: [coreboot] using overlayfs to have several coreboot dev envs

2016-11-20 Thread ron minnich
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 4:36 PM, ron minnich wrote: > > > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM Matt DeVillier > wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 2:51 PM, ron minnich wrote: > > I had the same thought even while writing that note. So option 2 for the > config file is to c

Re: [coreboot] using overlayfs to have several coreboot dev envs

2016-11-20 Thread ron minnich
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 1:00 PM Matt DeVillier wrote: > On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 2:51 PM, ron minnich wrote: > > I had the same thought even while writing that note. So option 2 for the > config file is to create it at the top level: config.${MAINBOARD) or > somewhere else.

Re: [coreboot] using overlayfs to have several coreboot dev envs

2016-11-20 Thread ron minnich
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 12:45 PM Trammell Hudson wrote: > On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 08:20:51PM +0000, ron minnich wrote: > > [...] > > There's also no fundamental reason for using the name .config other than > > tradition. We could, for example, create > > build

Re: [coreboot] native video init question

2016-11-20 Thread ron minnich
I'm working from memory here, I wrote this code over 4 years ago, but I did find out there's lots of ways to get a dark panel or other issues you mention. And it's very hard sometimes to get it all right. It's also easy to have it almost working with parameters that are so wrong that getting back t

Re: [coreboot] Neither seaBIOS or GRUB payloads are able to boot gentoo [amd_pmu_init performance counters freeze] [KGPE-D16]

2016-11-20 Thread ron minnich
A little word of caution: seeing a problem with coreboot and a given distro has proven, in the past, to not always be a coreboot problem. I'd say it more frequently uncovers a kernel problem than a coreboot problem, but I have only my limited memory and no statistics. On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 11:

Re: [coreboot] using overlayfs to have several coreboot dev envs

2016-11-20 Thread ron minnich
I think the build system could stand some cleanup so that external build would not be needed and building many mainboards in one tree would be easy. LinuxBIOS V1 allowed you to build any number of mainboards in one source tree -- it was initially modeled on the BSD build system. objects were place

Re: [coreboot] Petitboot based bootloader

2016-11-01 Thread ron minnich
Neat! This was the original linuxbios model from 1999: kernel + minimal initramfs in flash, so it's nice to see it coming back. I've got something similar too, save the userland is not petitboot (I no longer want to use C for user mode code) but Go. It's also bigger than I'd like (about the size o

Re: [coreboot] Microcode question ?

2016-10-19 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 5:53 PM ron minnich wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 4:50 PM Riko Ho wrote: > > Ok, it means, I need to use microcode for LGA775 otherwise it will not > work, please correct me ? > > > I can't honestly say. I talked to an expert about this yeste

Re: [coreboot] Microcode question ?

2016-10-19 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 4:50 PM Riko Ho wrote: > Ok, it means, I need to use microcode for LGA775 otherwise it will not > work, please correct me ? > > I can't honestly say. I talked to an expert about this yesterday and pointed out that early sandybridge required the microcode update to work at

Re: [coreboot] Microcode question ?

2016-10-19 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 9:36 AM Vasilief wrote: > On 10/18/2016 10:31 AM, Stefan Reinauer wrote: > > * Riko Ho [161017 02:18]: > >> Is it ok if I'm not including microcode updates ? > > > > It might, or might not. On the i945/946 it probably is ok. A lot of > > modern CPUs can't boot successfull

Re: [coreboot] [coreboot-announce] SHORT NOTICE: coreboot.berlin next weekend, Oct. 7-9

2016-09-30 Thread ron minnich
See you there! I just registered and am really looking forward to seeing everyone! Thanks Peter! ron On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:41 AM Peter Stuge wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm happy to *finally* have the information and registration page online: > > https://coreboot.berlin/ > > > Yes, it's very la

[coreboot] where to put info about linux payload and kgpe-d16

2016-09-29 Thread ron minnich
I'd lke to track some things I'm learning about linux paylaod on kgpe-d16 I'm thinking of keep track of working linux ref and a working .config working coreboot ref and a working .config I'm not quite sure where in the wiki this belongs; ideas anyone? reon -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@cor

[coreboot] linux as payload on KGPE-D16

2016-09-29 Thread ron minnich
things got better with the CL I submitted yesterday, but further on in 4.x more things break on the KGPE-D16 I'll keep you posted. 4.x has been very painful so far. ron -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org https://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

Re: [coreboot] FYI: ACPI ASL 2.0

2016-09-20 Thread ron minnich
p stage as needed. You only need the cpp hack once as you want to switch to the transformed output. Not pretty, but maybe ACPI is so simple that it would work. ron On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 12:11 PM ron minnich wrote: > It would be nice if there were a source to source transformation tool ou

Re: [coreboot] FYI: ACPI ASL 2.0

2016-09-20 Thread ron minnich
It would be nice if there were a source to source transformation tool out there but failing that RPN to infix is pretty simple to automate. ron On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 12:03 PM Duncan Laurie wrote: > So far I've been asking people in ACPI patches to not introduce ASL 2.0 > syntax into existing

Re: [coreboot] Experiments with disabling the ME on Sandybridge x230

2016-09-15 Thread ron minnich
This is fantastic! I hope you can write this up for the coreboot wiki ... ron On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:24 PM Trammell Hudson wrote: > On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 09:27:18PM +, Peter Stuge wrote: > > Trammell Hudson wrote: > > > I've experimented with clearing additional bits, from 0x3000 to

Re: [coreboot] weird problem with KGPE-D16

2016-09-14 Thread ron minnich
oline code from the bzimage. I'll try that. ron On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 4:43 PM ron minnich wrote: > I've been trying to find a problem in linux that makes it not boot when > used as the payload in the KGPE-D16. The symptom is that I get no output at > all on serial when linux

[coreboot] weird problem with KGPE-D16

2016-09-13 Thread ron minnich
I've been trying to find a problem in linux that makes it not boot when used as the payload in the KGPE-D16. The symptom is that I get no output at all on serial when linux starts. I finally got it down to 1 commit today in linux. commit 974f221c84b05b1dc2f5ea50dc16d2a9d1e95eda Author: Yinghai Lu

Re: [coreboot] Experiments with disabling the ME on Sandybridge x230

2016-09-12 Thread ron minnich
I was thinking that the x230 was so old it would just keep running, is that possible? I know that on newer platforms you only get the 30 minutes. ron On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 10:28 AM Peter Stuge wrote: > ron minnich wrote: > > That's pretty interesting. I had no idea that would w

Re: [coreboot] Experiments with disabling the ME on Sandybridge x230

2016-09-12 Thread ron minnich
That's pretty interesting. I had no idea that would work. I wonder if erasing it all erases that little boot of the ME you need to get the hardware going, whereas the 4KB erase lets the little bootstrap run but disables the ME otherwise. If so, that's great news. ron On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 8:43

Re: [coreboot] Welcome to the new coreboot.org!

2016-09-08 Thread ron minnich
> > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 8:12 AM, Zoran Stojsavljevic < > zoran.stojsavlje...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> There is always "better" per say, whatever does it mean!? ;-) >> >> Am I right (I am too old to play it on first, second... N-

Re: [coreboot] Welcome to the new coreboot.org!

2016-09-07 Thread ron minnich
It's wonderful. For fun, I found this, which is *not* the first one, but close. https://web.archive.org/web/2819124055/http://www.acl.lanl.gov/linuxbios/index.html On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 5:51 PM Stefan Reinauer wrote: > Hi! > > As some of you might already have noticed, our new web presen

Re: [coreboot] ASUS KGPE-D16 Automated Test Failure [master]

2016-08-25 Thread ron minnich
I wonder if it's the bad problem I'm see with BAR allocation in linux? I can't get my in-flash linux to boot and function if it's 4.x. ron On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:44 PM Timothy Pearson < tpear...@raptorengineering.com> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 08/24/2016

Re: [coreboot] FS2 for anyone who can use it

2016-08-10 Thread ron minnich
gt; > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 5:01 PM, ron minnich wrote: > > oh, thanks, Marshall, for some reason I confused FS2 and HDT. > > > > darn. Well, if nobody wants this thing ... into the black hole with it. > > > > ron > > > > -- > > coreboot

Re: [coreboot] FS2 for anyone who can use it

2016-08-10 Thread ron minnich
oh, thanks, Marshall, for some reason I confused FS2 and HDT. darn. Well, if nobody wants this thing ... into the black hole with it. ron -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org https://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

Re: [coreboot] FS2 for anyone who can use it

2016-08-10 Thread ron minnich
Thanks Nico that's it. It's a nice debugger for opterons. If somebody wants it let me know and I'll bring it to berlin. ron On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 3:08 AM Nico Huber wrote: > On 10.08.2016 10:35, ron minnich wrote: > > ah, no, those are not it. Sorry. I'll get

Re: [coreboot] Where is the first instrucion?

2016-08-10 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 3:34 AM Zoran Stojsavljevic < zoran.stojsavlje...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Basically, in the classic car we got in 2005, the steps on x86 are: > > enable cache > *> do references to set tags* > > disable cache (really!) > > then cache as ram works. > > I am interested how th

Re: [coreboot] FS2 for anyone who can use it

2016-08-10 Thread ron minnich
tel-Pentium-Dual-Core-Processor.14045.0.html > > Zoran > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Jonathan Neuschäfer > wrote: > >> On Sat, Aug 06, 2016 at 10:39:48PM +, ron minnich wrote: >> > I have an FS2 if someone can use it. I may have mentioned this before. I &

[coreboot] FS2 for anyone who can use it

2016-08-06 Thread ron minnich
I have an FS2 if someone can use it. I may have mentioned this before. I can bring it to berlin with me if you will be at the meeting. ron -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org https://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

Re: [coreboot] Extracting EC firmware from EFI firmware

2016-08-04 Thread ron minnich
That's quite neat ... ron On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 5:12 AM Łukasz Dobrowolski wrote: > I discovered that ITE often uses 8032 in their EC's. Those start from > address 0. > After some changing cbfs size in menuconfig and playing a bit with dd > i was able to get the board to turn on and display po

[coreboot] Turns out I never knew what intuitive meant.

2016-07-27 Thread ron minnich
"ASUS AM1I-A is an AM1 Socket-based Mini-ITX motherboard. It has an intuitive UEFI BIOS " er, what? What's the word intuitive mean again? ron -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org https://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

Re: [coreboot] What is the best way to treat warnings reported by checkpatch.pl

2016-07-27 Thread ron minnich
Ah well, Werner, I've had the error of my ways pointed out to me, turns out this packed stuff is a standard practice in coreboot now. I must have missed the memo. So, I'm not a fan but if that's how we do it, it's how we do it. thanks and apologies ron On Wed, Jul 27,

Re: [coreboot] What is the best way to treat warnings reported by checkpatch.pl

2016-07-27 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 9:25 PM Zeh, Werner wrote: > > > > In the case of ACPI we need to provide a table which has constrains on the > used data types and alignment > as the contents of the table will be interpreted by the ACPI interpreter > of the OS. > So if we omit the usage of packed it may

Re: [coreboot] What is the best way to treat warnings reported by checkpatch.pl

2016-07-26 Thread ron minnich
> from memory into an unpacked struct? That's how ACPICA seems to do it. > > Because in most cases, it is not data, but register space we are > accessing. > > Are you suggesting to learn our coding style from ACPI? Who are you and > what did you do to Ron Minnich? ;) >

Re: [coreboot] What is the best way to treat warnings reported by checkpatch.pl

2016-07-26 Thread ron minnich
A couple of questions preceded by the usual curmudgeonly comment :-) I'm not a big fan of checkpatch.pl. It's 5965 lines of dense perl spaghetti code, continues to grow, and is attempting to achieve that which I understand may be impossible: parsing C with REs and random blobs of PERL. Given that

Re: [coreboot] Thinkpad x230 video glitches during boot

2016-07-25 Thread ron minnich
This is just weird. I can easily load a 3.18 kernel and boot it from flash. 4.6.4 with your config won't work at all. Could you put your kernel somewhere I can try it out? I'm starting to worry about my toolchain. Also, do you use the bzimage or vmlinux? I would prefer to use the vmlinux but hav

Re: [coreboot] Thinkpad x230 video glitches during boot

2016-07-24 Thread ron minnich
On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 11:32 AM Trammell Hudson wrote: > > The Qubes kernel is the Xen hypervisor and is only about 800 KB. > I'm attempting to add it as the payload, although I think that a minimal > Linux in ROM that kexec's Xen from an encrypted and measured disk image > will be better suited

Re: [coreboot] Thinkpad x230 video glitches during boot

2016-07-23 Thread ron minnich
I"m assuming this is native graphics? That's sometimes a sign that the graphics hardware can't get to memory for an image, either due to the page remapping on the graphics hardware being wrong or maybe BME is not set on the device. Or, it could be something as simple as the memory it's pointing to

[coreboot] kgpe-d16

2016-06-21 Thread ron minnich
I have a kgpe-d16 with coreboot and it *was* working with linux. I now have a linux kernel that won't boot on fuctory bios or coreboot. I can't recall changing anything ... If somebody's got a known good .config for linux I could sure use it. I'm booting stock tinycore and it seems to hang a lot.

[coreboot] X230 at coreboot conference.

2016-06-11 Thread ron minnich
I'm bringing an x230 to the conference next week in hopes that someone can help me flash it ... I've failed every time so far. And, I'll have a bunch of gear at the swap table, so if you flash the x230, you can take your pick of it :-) ron -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org https://

Re: [coreboot] Discussion about dynamic PCI MMIO size on x86

2016-06-07 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 7:40 AM Patrick Rudolph wrote: > > > I've read this serveral times and wonder how a stored variable could get > damaged ? > There is a checksum to verify the mrc cache. How should anything go > wrong ? > > oh boy. "how should anything go wrong" ... :-) What I wonder, every

Re: [coreboot] Discussion about dynamic PCI MMIO size on x86

2016-06-06 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:52 PM Patrick Rudolph wrote: > To summarize: > The easy way is to use 2G. > The preferred way would be to mimic mrc behaviour and reboot after > finding the correct size. > > > I'm not sure it's "easy vs. preferred" so much as - simple that has no known failure cases (ye

Re: [coreboot] Discussion about dynamic PCI MMIO size on x86

2016-06-06 Thread ron minnich
I'm getting the sense here that reasonably modern CPUs can easily handle the 2G hole. From what I've seen, it would not cause trouble for older CPUs because they're most likely to be in small systems that are not likely to have more than 2G memory anyway (I'm thinking of the vortex). The 2G hole s

Re: [coreboot] Discussion about dynamic PCI MMIO size on x86

2016-06-04 Thread ron minnich
Another Kconfig option? How many people will really understand what it means and whether to use it? Has just reserving 2 GiB as a hard and fast rule hurt anyone yet? thanks ron On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 11:25 PM Patrick Rudolph wrote: > On 2016-06-03 05:41 PM, Aaron Durbin via coreboot wrote: >

Re: [coreboot] Say hi to avatars on review.coreboot.org

2016-05-16 Thread ron minnich
oh. wait. is that me? ron On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 4:39 PM ron minnich wrote: > There's no way this can work. > > > > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 4:32 PM Stefan Reinauer < > stefan.reina...@coreboot.org> wrote: > >> Hello coreboot folks, >> >> I&

Re: [coreboot] Say hi to avatars on review.coreboot.org

2016-05-16 Thread ron minnich
There's no way this can work. On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 4:32 PM Stefan Reinauer < stefan.reina...@coreboot.org> wrote: > Hello coreboot folks, > > I've played around with gerrit's avatar feature this weekend and as > a little gimmick, I have turned on avatars for our gerrit instance at > https://

Re: [coreboot] Question about Intel's documentation notations

2016-05-09 Thread ron minnich
H means hex, they do that instead of 0x. 2 is footnote 2. The whole H thing goes back 45 years or so and was a failure of vision, AH is a register name and a constant. As are bc, ch, and dh. oops. ron On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 8:19 AM Rafael Machado < rafaelrodrigues.mach...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi

Re: [coreboot] How to protect binary in flash chip? OTP?

2016-05-05 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 7:54 PM Persmule wrote: > Don't you feel ashamed to ask coreboot, a free firmware project, for copy > protection techiques? > > > > Zheng Bao has nothing to be ashamed of, he made at least 187 commits to coreboot from 2008 to 2015 -- and they were not simple ones by any mea

Re: [coreboot] coreboot specific ACPI table

2016-04-25 Thread ron minnich
FWIW RISCV is looking at this issue and I've talked to them about just using text-based tables. Since the kernel always has to interpret the table anyway there's no real advantage to binary formats. We've even discussed using text protobufs. ron -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org ht

Re: [coreboot] coreboot specific ACPI table

2016-04-22 Thread ron minnich
I tend to vote for CORE, I think it is really going to be clear to people what it's for I like CRBT but fear it gets lost in the plethora of ACPI alphabet soup. ron On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 2:40 PM Aaron Durbin wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 2:38 PM, ron minnich wrote: >

Re: [coreboot] coreboot specific ACPI table

2016-04-22 Thread ron minnich
Wait, I thought it had to be 4 characters. ron On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 2:36 PM Aaron Durbin via coreboot < coreboot@coreboot.org> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Duncan Laurie > wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 6:49 AM, Aaron Durbin > wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:17

Re: [coreboot] coreboot 4.4 release coming soon

2016-04-20 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 10:21 AM Jonathan Neuschäfer wrote: > > I can get coreboot to boot in QEMU up to the "payload not loaded" > message with a few patches: > - I patched QEMU to not trap unaligned memory accesses > we're supposed to handle these traps, so something is broken. I would only t

Re: [coreboot] coreboot convention update

2016-04-19 Thread ron minnich
Yes, it does. On Tue, Apr 19, 2016, 11:59 AM Yang, York wrote: > Just want to confirm, will whole event happen in Google SF office? > > > > Thanks, > > York > > > > *From:* coreboot [mailto:coreboot-boun...@coreboot.org] *On Behalf Of *ron > minnich > *

[coreboot] coreboot convention update

2016-04-19 Thread ron minnich
The coreboot convention is coming along very well. Just today we've been able to schedule a talk which I think you are going to enjoy: Ms. Joanna Rutkowska of the Invisible Things Lab, and one of the inventors of Qubes, will be presenting her ideas on the Stateless Laptop on Monday, June 13. Put si

Re: [coreboot] coreboot specific ACPI table

2016-04-18 Thread ron minnich
yeah, I know ... :-) I just wanted to get the full word in there ron On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 6:22 PM Aaron Durbin wrote: > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:18 PM, ron minnich wrote: > > So we would submit new ACPI table types to the standards guys? Could we > get > > n

Re: [coreboot] coreboot specific ACPI table

2016-04-18 Thread ron minnich
So we would submit new ACPI table types to the standards guys? Could we get names like CORE BOOT CBFS ? ron On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:15 AM Patrick Georgi via coreboot < coreboot@coreboot.org> wrote: > 2016-04-18 19:09 GMT+02:00 Vadim Bendebury : > > It's been a while since I looked at it, but

[coreboot] coreboot convention, june 13-16, san francisco

2016-04-10 Thread ron minnich
This is a reminder about some details of the upcoming coreboot convention. Early registration ends May 15, and registration costs will be higher past that date. We've been working hard to find a block of hotel rooms but at the moment the best bet is to find and book your own; I've found about 50

Re: [coreboot] A talk about coreboot

2016-04-10 Thread Ron Minnich via coreboot
On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM Vadim Bendebury wrote: > Wow, looks like it was an excellent talk, thank you for sharing the slides! > > Should we expect an influx of contributions from China now? :) > > > but seriously :-) from the very beginning, we've had great contributions from China. Th

Re: [coreboot] Linux as payload

2016-04-08 Thread ron minnich
I use initramfs and it works wondefully well. Figures, Patrick Georgi did that code :-) ron -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org https://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

Re: [coreboot] GSoC proposal: Better support for RISC-V systems

2016-03-29 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:34 AM Jonathan Neuschäfer wrote: > > > I've discussed this some more with Ron, and it will be an untethered > lowRISC[1] ("untethered" meaning that it doesn't use the Host-Target > Interface which is a bridge and abstraction layer for I/O) on a Nexys 4 > board by Diligen

Re: [coreboot] [GSoC 2016] Proposal review

2016-03-23 Thread ron minnich
Actually, this seems a pretty good proposal in its current state, but not my one comment. thanks ron On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 12:14 PM ron minnich wrote: > Thanks, now I understand, and I will try to get to this tonight. Sorry to > be causing your worries. > > ron > > On We

Re: [coreboot] [GSoC 2016] Proposal review

2016-03-23 Thread ron minnich
forget. I'll be patient > > 2016-03-23 20:55 GMT+02:00 ron minnich : > >> you need to be patient. All the reviewers have day jobs and there is a >> lot of work in all this. >> >> There's no advantage to you or your proposal in complaining about the &

Re: [coreboot] [GSoC 2016] Proposal review

2016-03-23 Thread ron minnich
me time, please :-) >>>> Thanks in advance >>>> >>>> 2016-03-14 23:11 GMT+02:00 Yurii Shevtsov : >>>> >>>>> I know we haven't discussed project properly yet, and I understand my >>>>> vision of project may vary from

Re: [coreboot] Multiple payloads support?

2016-03-20 Thread ron minnich
it's a bit of work but I got it to build two years ago. ron On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 6:56 PM Zheng Bao wrote: > But Bayou seems to be dead. It can not be built. The definition like > "struct LAR" goes nowhere. > > > Zheng > -- > From: rminn...@gmail.com > Date: Sun, 2

Re: [coreboot] Multiple payloads support?

2016-03-20 Thread ron minnich
It was done about 10 years ago and it was called bayou. Take a look in the libpayload side. On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 11:30 PM Zheng Bao wrote: > Hi, all, > I am trying to integrate SeaBIOS and another payload(coreinfo, nvramcui) > into final image. > > After a quick code checking, current code in

Re: [coreboot] [GSoC 2016] ROM-O-Matic project

2016-03-19 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 2:33 PM Yurii Shevtsov wrote: > > I can't see any other way, it's all about running the commands. Browsers > can't do this. Certain actions are still required from user. Some shell > script, which will run commands and then send stdout to the server, can be > developed tho

Re: [coreboot] [GSoC 2016] ROM-O-Matic project

2016-03-19 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 1:08 PM Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote: > > Once we get reproducible builds, we could: > 1) Store an (SHA) hash of images in board-status. > 2) Make the rom-o-matic build (with the board-status configs) and >verify(checksums) the image of a known good state. > > > I rea

Re: [coreboot] [GSoC 2016] Proposal review

2016-03-19 Thread ron minnich
way :-) >> Here is the link: >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OWOYfKMUSZTi4tTHmGIIY27KAbM5MJVV0DdirjpB2As/edit?usp=sharing >> >> I made my proposal draft private. As for now I shared it with Ron Minnich >> and Martin Roth. If you part of a GSoC commission, I&#

Re: [coreboot] [GSoC 2016] ROM-O-Matic project

2016-03-18 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 1:30 PM Yurii Shevtsov wrote: > > >> > I like it too. Maybe we can ask users on rom-o-matic to provide neccesary > info for further project improvement > no, it has to be automated or it won't work. ron -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org https://www.coreboo

Re: [coreboot] [GSoC 2016] ROM-O-Matic project

2016-03-12 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 5:28 PM Yurii Shevtsov wrote: > But personally I think it's fun. Also, now I understand, that rom-o-matic > should be web-version of nconfig/menuconfig > > I'm not sure that's quite right. But we can talk. You definitely know what you are doing at this point :-) ron --

Re: [coreboot] [GSoC 2016] ROM-O-Matic project

2016-03-09 Thread ron minnich
record as to how uniform, e.g., the x220 experience has been? I know the chromebook uniformity is pretty good. ron On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 2:07 PM Alexander Couzens wrote: > On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 20:57:23 + > ron minnich wrote: > > > I suspect you know far more about writing such a

Re: [coreboot] [GSoC 2016] ROM-O-Matic project

2016-03-09 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 4:16 AM Yurii Shevtsov wrote: > I looked at sites you mentioned. I haven't any configuration feature on > johnlewis.ie Instead it provides an instruction for running special shell > script. But I much more liked original Rom-o-matic. I want do develop same > thing, but with

Re: [coreboot] [GSoC 2016] ROM-O-Matic project

2016-03-08 Thread ron minnich
yeah, we had something like this in the linuxbios days. I think you don't want to build it on demand, but rather have a bunch of pre-built images that are known good. Really, look at johnlewis.ie, that's the best thing I've seen. Have you also seen the original Rom-o-matic from the etherboot (now

Re: [coreboot] Timestamp

2016-03-06 Thread ron minnich
These are actually reasonable questions. I am wondering if, as you get each answer, you can document it for others who have the same questions. ron On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 10:47 AM daoud yessine wrote: > Hi > > how we can get the timestamp from coreboot ? > > what's the name of table in the sour

Re: [coreboot] Target candidate: Dell Latitude E4300

2016-02-29 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 2:53 PM persmule wrote: > , and siphon out the whole BIOS image, > which will be sent to you soon, too. > > > I am not sure what you mean by "sent to you soon", but if it means you are going to read a copyrighted image out of firmware and mail it to us, please do NOT do th

Re: [coreboot] Building ChromeOS from source

2016-02-26 Thread ron minnich
Do you want to build Chrome from source to? I have google doc that explains how building chromeos from source used to work. Chromeos is quite a monster to build, and my google doc is out of date (something changed), but it's possible to build a lot from source. Just have a reasonably powerful CPU

Re: [coreboot] explore Coreboot,with Doxygen

2016-02-25 Thread ron minnich
We tried to do Doxygen starting in 2000, but the experiment never seemed to work out. I still like the idea. One result was that you could make documentation and get a manual for the board you were working on at the time. That actually did work for a few years but it all kind of decayed. ron On T

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