Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-18 Thread Martin Roth
Additionally, the meeting software needs to work well for everyone, pretty much anywhere in the world. The coreboot community is an amazingly diverse group. So the meeting method needs to have a way to work well in pretty much any OS you can think of, or there needs to be an alternate method of

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-18 Thread ron minnich
Nobody is stopping anyone from implementing and letting us try something open. I think it's great. I would love to be able to use it. But some rules apply: o a lot of us have full time jobs and (in my case at least) a skill set that does not include competence/interest in hacking on meeting

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-18 Thread Peter Stuge
Stefan Reinauer wrote: > > > > I never tried the web interface. > > > > > > We did, it failed us. > > > > What problems did people have with mumble-web, and where was the > > websockets server running, relative to the mumble server? > > It was actually your mumble server. I didn't have

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-17 Thread mdn
Le 18/03/2017 00:47, Stefan Reinauer a écrit : > * taii...@gmx.com [170317 23:35]: >> I believe it needs fixing - It is a philosophical issue, I mean you have to >> draw the line or you get the slippery slope for "just a little non-free here >> for convenience just this once"

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-17 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* Peter Stuge [170317 14:27]: > Patrick Georgi via coreboot wrote: > > 2017-03-17 13:17 GMT+01:00 Dumitru Ursu : > > > I never tried the web interface. > > > > We did, it failed us. > > I wish someone would have mentioned that sooner. > > What problems did

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-17 Thread Stefan Reinauer
* taii...@gmx.com [170317 23:35]: > I believe it needs fixing - It is a philosophical issue, I mean you have to > draw the line or you get the slippery slope for "just a little non-free here > for convenience just this once" has lead to most of the community thinking > that a

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-17 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 03/17/2017 10:25 AM, ttu...@codeaurora.org wrote: I'm sorry, I have to contribute at this point. I got started with OSS in 2000 when Monta Vista Software (anybody remember HardHat Linux?) hired me as a FAE. I was teamed with a salesperson and we were trying to close business selling an

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-17 Thread ron minnich
This discussion comes up every few years, and it quickly diverges into discussion of a long list of candidate systems. This current thread is no exception. FWIW, we've tried many of them. Unfortunately, the free software meeting systems have not worked out. For any system to work, there are a

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-17 Thread Iru Cai
Have you tried the Matrix protocol (https://matrix.org) that I mentioned? It supports WebRTC as well as talk with text and files. If you are not satisfied with the existing public servers ( https://www.hello-matrix.net/public_servers.php), you can even host one. On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 11:05 PM,

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-17 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
2017-03-17 15:50 GMT+01:00 Juliana Rodrigues : > that I know uses jitsi: https://meet.jit.si > It's MIT, but works very well. Thanks for the pointer. We already tried jitsi, but I think without the bridge service (which only seems to exist for about a year). So, something

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-17 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
On 17.03.2017 15:50, Juliana Rodrigues wrote: > Don't know if anyone brought this up yet, but the FOSS communities > that I know uses jitsi: https://meet.jit.si Does it work better on low-end devices than it did a year ago? Back then WebRTC was pretty much unusable in the browsers I tried on a

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-17 Thread Juliana Rodrigues
Don't know if anyone brought this up yet, but the FOSS communities that I know uses jitsi: https://meet.jit.si It's MIT, but works very well. Em sex, 17 de mar de 2017 às 11:27, escreveu: > On 2017-03-17 06:27, Peter Stuge wrote: > > Patrick Georgi via coreboot wrote:

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-17 Thread tturne
On 2017-03-17 06:27, Peter Stuge wrote: Patrick Georgi via coreboot wrote: 2017-03-17 13:17 GMT+01:00 Dumitru Ursu : > I never tried the web interface. We did, it failed us. I wish someone would have mentioned that sooner. What problems did people have with mumble-web, and

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-17 Thread Peter Stuge
Patrick Georgi via coreboot wrote: > 2017-03-17 13:17 GMT+01:00 Dumitru Ursu : > > I never tried the web interface. > > We did, it failed us. I wish someone would have mentioned that sooner. What problems did people have with mumble-web, and where was the websockets server

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-17 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
2017-03-17 13:17 GMT+01:00 Dumitru Ursu : > Try Mumble - it worked without issues for me, but I never tried the web > interface. We did, it failed us. Patrick -- Google Germany GmbH, ABC-Str. 19, 20354 Hamburg Registergericht und -nummer: Hamburg, HRB 86891, Sitz der

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-17 Thread Dumitru Ursu
On 03/15/2017 04:17 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > I will investigate this further, there are a few foss browser softphones > so I will test them and get back to everyone. Try Mumble - it worked without issues for me, but I never tried the web interface.

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-15 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 03/14/2017 03:33 AM, Paul Menzel wrote: Dear Taiidan, Am Dienstag, den 14.03.2017, 00:36 -0400 schrieb taii...@gmx.com: Discord is proprietary software, why don't we use something free and open source? 1. Discord is not used anymore. Where did you find this outdated information?

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-15 Thread mdn
I just found out that there's ring if anyone wants to try that. https://ring.cx/ Le 14/03/2017 08:33, Paul Menzel via coreboot a écrit : > Dear Taiidan, > > > Am Dienstag, den 14.03.2017, 00:36 -0400 schrieb taii...@gmx.com: >> Discord is proprietary software, why don't we use something free

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-14 Thread Paul Menzel via coreboot
Dear Taiidan, Am Dienstag, den 14.03.2017, 00:36 -0400 schrieb taii...@gmx.com: > Discord is proprietary software, why don't we use something free and > open source? 1. Discord is not used anymore. Where did you find this outdated information? 2. As there were a lot of problems with the

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-14 Thread Martin Roth
Mainly we're using proprietary software because it works better than the open source alternatives we tried. We wanted to use the open source solutions, and tried a number of options in the months since the CCM started. They all had serious issues with people not being able to hear one another.

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-13 Thread Iru Cai
I love Matrix (https://matrix.org) and there are already some public servers (https://www.hello-matrix.net/public_servers.php), including matrixim.cc hosted by me. On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 12:36 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > Discord is proprietary software, why don't we use

Re: [coreboot] How come the community meeting is hosted by proprietary software?

2017-03-13 Thread mdn
I don't have a vps but I can recommend you some good/cheep ones https://store.vikings.net/libre-hosting-provider-crowdfunding/libre-vps-pre-order I hope it helps Le 14/03/2017 05:36, taii...@gmx.com a écrit : > Discord is proprietary software, why don't we use something free and > open source? >