[coreboot] Re: Makefile classes-y vs subdirs-y

2024-02-16 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
libpayload uses both. For example, line 52 defines a class "libcbfs", line 64 adds the subdir "libcbfs".And https://elixir.bootlin.com/coreboot/latest/source/payloads/libpayload/libcbfs/Makefile.inc adds its sources to the libcbfs class. Roughly speaking: subdirs-y just makes the build system

[coreboot] Re: RFC: Behavior of make *config

2023-11-29 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
29. November 2023 12:14, "Poeche, Uwe via coreboot" schrieb: > Your above mentioned patch helps (I'm a reviewer of this). When I tried I > also noticed that this > does not point out loudly if you have problems in your config. So the > approach without the patch > (in result more strict) is

[coreboot] Re: commit 0eab62b makes menuconfig more strict regarding the old configs

2023-11-29 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
On 29.11.23 00:20, Martin Roth via coreboot wrote: Hey Mike, I think you should be able to just append change the kconfig values when you run make to override the current settings. something like `make menuconfig KCONFIG_WERROR=0 KCONFIG_WARN_UNKNOWN_SYMBOLS=0` if we update where they're set

[coreboot] Re: commit 0eab62b makes menuconfig more strict regarding the old configs

2023-11-28 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
On 28.11.23 19:04, Mike Banon wrote: Are there any advantages of KCONFIG_STRICT / KCONFIG_WERROR that outweigh these potential issues? It ensures that we don't silently build with unknown symbols (typo in manual editing, changes to the config, ...), and wonder why CONFIG_UART_DEBUG=y doesn't

[coreboot] RFC: Behavior of make *config

2023-11-28 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi everybody, I updated Kconfig to track latest Linux last week and that brought some behavioral change with it. While these changes are appreciated in some respect, they also complicate work in others. I now proposed https://review.coreboot.org/79298, a change that exempts _all_ *config

[coreboot] Re: make menuconfig - is broken after commit 7eab8ef (Linux 6.2's kconfig) and follow-ups

2023-11-26 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am 26.11.2023 um 18:15 schrieb Mike Banon: /usr/bin/ld: build/util/kconfig/lxdialog/yesno.o: warning: relocation against `acs_map' in read-only section `.text' /usr/bin/ld: build/util/kconfig/mconf.o: in function `show_help': mconf.c:(.text+0x1770): undefined reference to `stdscr' /usr/bin/ld:

[coreboot] Re: coreboot has switched the default git branch from "master" to "main"

2023-09-12 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
12. September 2023 17:59, "Felix Singer" schrieb: > it seems people are still able to use refs/for/master. Some patches > were just pushed for master today, but they are already rebased to the > main branch now. Can we prevent that or can we only prevent submissions > to the master branch? I

[coreboot] Re: 2023-08-23 - coreboot Leadership meeting minutes

2023-09-06 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am 06.09.2023 um 18:57 schrieb Williams, Hannah: Here are the reasons why we cannot open source Meteor Lake uGOP: - It has licensed code for HDMI and other industry specifications (i915 also cannot open source HDMI 2.1) - VBT spec is not open sourced There will have to be a re-design of the

[coreboot] Re: [RFC] Pre-Memory Sign-of-Life using Intel uGOP

2023-08-27 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am 27.08.2023 um 19:18 schrieb Tim Wawrzynczak: Also, to be perfectly honest, I don't understand why this "sign-of-life" feature is so critical that it must be available during development. When I (and a few others) came up with the idea at Google, the entire point of the feature is so that

[coreboot] Termin mit Hinweis abgesagt: coreboot Leadership Meeting - Mi 9. Aug. 2023 19:00 - 20:00 (MESZ) (coreboot@coreboot.org)

2023-08-09 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
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[coreboot] Re: New Defects reported by Coverity Scan for coreboot

2022-10-11 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
"Angel Pons" schrieb: > We made the patches that made Coverity angry about this `format_pn()` > function. However, this is not an actual bug: the > `eeprom_read_serial()` function returns a buffer that is at most 32 > (`HERMES_SN_PN_LENGTH`) characters long, and the length of the > `prefix`

[coreboot] Re: Can we make unit test failures more obvious in Gerrit?

2022-09-03 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am 02.09.2022 um 03:38 schrieb Julius Werner: Right now, when you have a CL that builds fine but fails unit tests, Jenkins with Verified -1 it with a failure page like this https://qa.coreboot.org/job/coreboot-gerrit/215770/ , which just says "Test Result (no failures)". If you know your way

[coreboot] Re: Reconsidering the Gerrit submission strategy

2022-08-01 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi everybody, 22. Juli 2022 16:56, "Patrick Georgi via coreboot" schrieb: > On August 1, I'll change the coreboot repo to use that submission strategy > and then we'll have a > month to see how it works for us. Late August we can make a decision whether > to sta

[coreboot] Re: Reconsidering the Gerrit submission strategy

2022-07-22 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi again, On 2022-07-13 I wrote: > David proposed that we could try out "rebase always" for a while (maybe a > month) to see how it > feels. This idea has been positively received on the list and nobody voiced objection to such a change. As a server admin I declare that August will be

[coreboot] Reconsidering the Gerrit submission strategy

2022-07-13 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi everybody, I was recently made aware that Gerrit now supports adding metadata to commit messages in the "rebase" strategy. The "cherry-pick" strategy that we're using has been chosen over everything else primarily due to this capability. Some details: Gerrit supports different ways of

[coreboot] Re: Deprecation of the Intel Quark SoC

2022-04-13 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am 12.04.2022 um 23:54 schrieb Karl Semich: Obviously a way to sidestep all this would be to simply test the board in question, which is a small investment of money and time. I appreciate that you volunteer to do that for Quark. Can't be too bad, it's a small investment of money and time, after

[coreboot] Fwd: [Lvfs-announce] LVFS Community Meeting: Alternate Branches

2022-01-25 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Might be interesting for a few folks here? -- Forwarded message - Von: Richard Hughes Date: Di., 25. Jan. 2022 um 12:20 Uhr Subject: [Lvfs-announce] LVFS Community Meeting: Alternate Branches To: Hi all, We normally only allow the silicon vendor, the ODM or the OEM to upload

[coreboot] Re: Git reports an interesting error message

2022-01-20 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi Jay, from your description I'm not clear what you added to your root certificate store. Let's Encrypt provides their root certs in various formats at https://letsencrypt.org/certificates/ Things should work after you add those (right now, review.coreboot.org is certified through the X1 root)

[coreboot] Re: Does PCI driver code belong in coreboot (ARM)?

2021-12-01 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
1. Dezember 2021 12:06, "Paul Menzel" schrieb: > If I remember correctly, coreboot’s goal to only do minimal hardware > initialization originally meant, that the payload/OS does PCI > initialization. The original idea was to boot into Linux (hence LinuxBIOS, back in the day). coreboot is very

[coreboot] Re: Suggestion for deprecation: LEGACY_SMP_INIT & RESOURCE_ALLOCATOR_V3

2021-11-28 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am 28.11.2021 um 02:44 schrieb Peter Stuge: Patrick Georgi via coreboot wrote: With all due respect, dropping support for the majority of AMD boards Dropping support for hardware has never been the primary purpose of deprecation plans, I think the difference is unimportantly subtle

[coreboot] Re: Suggestion for deprecation: LEGACY_SMP_INIT & RESOURCE_ALLOCATOR_V3

2021-11-26 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
24. November 2021 21:16, "Mike Banon" schrieb: > With all due respect, dropping support for the majority of AMD boards Dropping support for hardware has never been the primary purpose of deprecation plans, but since deprecations have been interpreted like that too often, I propose using clearer

[coreboot] Re: Suggestion for deprecation: LEGACY_SMP_INIT & RESOURCE_ALLOCATOR_V3

2021-11-25 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am 25.11.2021 um 18:06 schrieb AreYouLoco? via coreboot: In my opinion coreboot is more developer friendly than user friendly. Kinda obvious: We don't even ship binaries... Given the trouble these deprecation announcements always are, I can tell you an even more developer friendly strategy:

[coreboot] Re: Suggestion for deprecation: LEGACY_SMP_INIT & RESOURCE_ALLOCATOR_V3

2021-11-25 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
On 25.11.21 17:04, Mike Banon wrote: 2. It's not just the loss of boards - it's also the loss of coreboot users/contributors who only have these boards and don't want to switch These users didn't contribute fixes to their boards (or even just feedback that things needs to be done and testing

[coreboot] Re: "Private" changes on Gerrit are now disabled and removed

2021-11-12 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
12. November 2021 20:35, "Felix Singer" schrieb: > Is it possible to rename the label to something else, so that it > doesn't sound so strong anymore? Like "hidden", for example. Or does > this need changes in its code? I was thinking about renaming the feature "hide from UI" or something like

[coreboot] Re: "Private" changes on Gerrit are now disabled and removed

2021-11-12 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Since this appears to be blowing up (because we didn't have enough crap this week already, right?), let me respond a bit longer to the list for completeness sake: 12. November 2021 11:05, "Keith Emery" schrieb: > But would anyone else like to explain why this isn't a GPL violation? Because >

[coreboot] "Private" changes on Gerrit are now disabled and removed

2021-11-11 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi everybody, it came to my attention that changes marked "private" on Gerrit are hidden in the UI but easily accessible through gitiles and with "git fetch". I don't think it matters for most cases, but since we advertised it as being accessible for the owner and individual reviewers, I

[coreboot] Re: Weird thoughts about blobs (was Re: Re: Another year, another blob?)

2021-11-09 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Dear coreboot project, this discussion heated up and escalated considerably, to the point where things got personal. I have since put Nico and Martin into temporary moderation for this mailing list, in an attempt to get the temperature down at least within the project. The timing of me doing

[coreboot] Re: Placing coreboot in system memory

2021-11-09 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi Julian, November 9, 2021 6:27 PM, "Julian Stecklina" wrote: > This works, but I wonder whether this is the intended way to use Coreboot or > whether there is some more elaborate way to do it. Does all of Coreboot have > to > be mapped at the end of 4G? Or is there any documentation on

[coreboot] Re: Another year, another blob?

2021-11-08 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am So., 7. Nov. 2021 um 12:29 Uhr schrieb Nico Huber : > There's also a general reluctance to expect to support a project with > free software that has shown that it doesn't take the GPL seriously. > General reluctance by whom? I just don't see that, instead I see tons of activity by a very

[coreboot] Re: Another year, another blob?

2021-11-05 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Fr., 5. Nov. 2021 um 19:11 Uhr schrieb ron minnich : > e.g., the KGPE-D16 would get a 100% > except for the VGABIOS. > Marketing types are sensitive to numbers like this: we could > prominently display these numbers on coreboot.org > They're also pretty sensitive about any kind of mistake

[coreboot] Re: Another year, another blob?

2021-11-05 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Fr., 5. Nov. 2021 um 18:16 Uhr schrieb Martin Roth via coreboot < coreboot@coreboot.org>: > The current reality is that binary blobs are needed for almost every > platform in coreboot. I believe the coreboot leadership is united behind > the unfortunate reality that allowing these blobs is a

[coreboot] Re: [arm64] queries on current support and future direction

2021-10-20 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Mi., 20. Okt. 2021 um 11:04 Uhr schrieb Sukanto Ghosh via coreboot < coreboot@coreboot.org>: > We have couple of queries regarding the current support and future > direction of arm64 port of coreboot: > > >1. Does the current coreboot/arm64 execute post BL31 stage (assuming a >separate

[coreboot] Re: [arm64] queries on current support and future direction

2021-10-20 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Mi., 20. Okt. 2021 um 11:04 Uhr schrieb Sukanto Ghosh via coreboot < coreboot@coreboot.org>: > Does the current coreboot/arm64 port allow executing only the ramstage of > coreboot (say as a means of reducing the coreboot binary footprint) ? > I think that's really the gist of your inquiry, so

[coreboot] Re: Where to post PC BIOS related job ads?

2021-10-19 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
For coreboot related jobs there's https://www.coreboot.org/jobs.html More generally there's a channel called "firmware-jobs" in the OSFW slack: https://osfw.slack.com/archives/C029KQWBWJZ which has an invite-bot at https://slack.osfw.dev/ Am Di., 19. Okt. 2021 um 20:04 Uhr schrieb Jonathan

[coreboot] Re: There is a python in our toolchain?!?

2021-10-16 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Sa., 16. Okt. 2021 um 02:40 Uhr schrieb ron minnich : > Contest is easy to set up, easy to run, it's > getting contributors. I understand it's a commitment of a day or so to > figure out, but it's worth it in our experience. It's just not that > hard. > > I believe starting down the python

[coreboot] Re: There is a python in our toolchain?!?

2021-10-15 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Fr., 15. Okt. 2021 um 19:50 Uhr schrieb Ricardo Quesada < ricar...@google.com>: > In the meantime, would it make sense, as Jack mentioned, to land my change > [1] as it is? It is small/simple and it only has ~160 LoC Python. > For comparison, other util are using Python: util/qualcomm has

[coreboot] Re: coreboot EFI working group meeting minutes - 12 October 2021

2021-10-13 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Mi., 13. Okt. 2021 um 20:51 Uhr schrieb Peter Stuge : > > Linux is expecting more and more to use EFI supplied interfaces (UEFI > > Boot Services in particular, even if many are stubbed out) so like it or > > not, we’re going to need to support these interfaces. > > LOL! > The fun part about

[coreboot] The coreboot.org edk2 repo is live! (But don't get a heart attack)

2021-10-12 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi everybody, To facilitate cooperation on UEFI-as-a-payload work, we established a mirror of tianocore's edk2 repo at https://review.coreboot.org/edk2. Unlike other mirrors on review.coreboot.org, it's open for development. It's updated regularly, but the default branch that we set up,

[coreboot] Re: There is a python in our toolchain?!?

2021-10-12 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
> It's easy to let the joy of building a build system overwhelm the >> actual goals of a project. coreboot is not about being a build system. >> It's easy to fall into the trap of creating an ever more complex >> system that is more than is needed. >> >> On Thu, Sep

[coreboot] Re: Git reports an interesting error message

2021-09-30 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi Gregg, Am Do., 30. Sept. 2021 um 21:16 Uhr schrieb Gregg Levine < gregg.drw...@gmail.com>: > fatal: unable to access 'https://review.coreboot.org/coreboot.git/': > SSL certificate problem: certificate has expired > Given the timing, I wonder if

[coreboot] Re: There is a python in our toolchain?!?

2021-09-30 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Do., 30. Sept. 2021 um 17:29 Uhr schrieb Jack Rosenthal < jrose...@google.com>: > With respect to Kconfig, we (at Google) encountered a lovely build flake > after the Kconfig uprev last month in the coreboot tree that took a couple > of weeks to sort out and resolve. Some sort of automated

[coreboot] Re: There is a python in our toolchain?!?

2021-09-30 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Do., 30. Sept. 2021 um 15:22 Uhr schrieb Jack Rosenthal < jrose...@google.com>: > IMO, any codebase is significantly easier and safer to maintain if there > are tests. > Since we kinda-sorta support SPARK in our toolchain (not for the host though at this time), maybe we should evaluate doing a

[coreboot] Re: There is a python in our toolchain?!?

2021-09-29 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Mi., 29. Sept. 2021 um 19:47 Uhr schrieb Jack Rosenthal < jrose...@google.com>: > At a minimum, I think we should consider introducing Python on an optional >>> basis (i.e., the C Kconfig implementation only gets used if a Python >>> interpreter is unavailable), but making it required would be

[coreboot] Re: There is a python in our toolchain?!?

2021-09-29 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Mi., 29. Sept. 2021 um 16:43 Uhr schrieb Jack Rosenthal < jrose...@google.com>: > Overall I think introducing Python to the build would provide net benefit, > mainly from Kconfiglib, but could also find other good uses in e2e tests > like Ricardo was working on. Most people's Linux distros

[coreboot] There is a python in our toolchain?!?

2021-09-29 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi everybody, Historically, coreboot avoided depending on python too much (we got rid of an entire python based configuration and build system, for example), with few minor exceptions. The main reason has been that while python code is quick to slap together, it has demonstrated a penchant for

[coreboot] Re: Build failure due to gcc update to 11.2

2021-09-27 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi Selma, Am Mo., 27. Sept. 2021 um 17:54 Uhr schrieb Bensaid, Selma < selma.bens...@intel.com>: > Here the build error, I checked that the error does not occurs with gcc 12 > revert. We are using Ubuntu 18.04 for our build nodes. > > > src/drivers/bus/i2c/designware.c: In function

[coreboot] Re: Build failure due to gcc update to 11.2

2021-09-26 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi Selma, It might help to know what kind of build failures these are. Could you post them somewhere (e.g. ticket.coreboot.org) for discussion? Regards, Patrick Am Sa., 25. Sept. 2021 um 02:22 Uhr schrieb Bensaid, Selma < selma.bens...@intel.com>: > Hi, > > We are facing build failure due to

[coreboot] Re: Question on loading SELF payload

2021-09-23 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi Ray, Am Fr., 17. Sept. 2021 um 18:43 Uhr schrieb Ni, Ray : > If yes, is there a recommended memory map (where is stack, where is > coreboot ramstage, where is payload)? > ramstage is relocatable these days: romstage/postcar loads it near the top of memory. ramstage's stack is kept in the

[coreboot] Re: Mailing list archive not updating

2021-09-23 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi Branden, the issue should be resolved. Thanks for bringing it up! Patrick Am Di., 21. Sept. 2021 um 19:22 Uhr schrieb Branden Waldner < scruff...@gmail.com>: > I was just checking the mailing list archive and noticed that it isn't > showing any new messages since September 9. > > I wasn't

[coreboot] RFC: On testing and reporting how well coreboot does on real hardware

2021-06-16 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi everybody, There has been some talk recently in a smaller group where coreboot needs to improve the most in public perception, and how to get there. Consensus has been that we're doing a pretty bad job at promoting all the hardware that we support in each coreboot version. There's

[coreboot] Re: cgit on review.coreboot.org

2021-05-31 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
gitiles#106 points to https://github.com/google/gitiles/issues/7 which outlines the concern of delivering arbitrary data from an authenticated domain. I believe GitHub moved its "raw" output to a separate domain for the same reason, e.g.

[coreboot] Re: What should we do about freenode IRC services?

2021-05-28 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am 28.05.2021 um 07:54 schrieb Shawn C: Nice, I wouldn't use libera.chat since they banned all tor traffic by default. OFTC respect more of user privacy but seems nobody are willing to use. Then Matrix is a good option. Thanks. They seem to have a dedicated tor service now, described at

[coreboot] Re: What should we do about freenode IRC services?

2021-05-27 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
27. Mai 2021 11:44, "Angel Pons" schrieb: >> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 6:01 AM Patrick Georgi via coreboot >> wrote: >>> So, what should we do? > > I'd suggest moving to Libera. I think the Matrix bridge to Libera is > running now. It is: #coreboot:libera.

[coreboot] What should we do about freenode IRC services?

2021-05-25 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi everybody, you might have heard that freenode.org recently changed management under weird circumstances. Given that we use their services for our project chat, this concerns us as well. In last week's leadership meeting we had a wide variety of opinions: To go for libera.chat (a network

[coreboot] Re: arm-trusted-firmware mirror seems to have stopped syncing

2021-05-13 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi Julius, the syncer's configuration for that repo was wrong in a couple of places, I fixed it this morning. Regards, Patrick Am Do., 13. Mai 2021 um 01:55 Uhr schrieb Julius Werner < jwer...@chromium.org>: > Hi Patrick, Martin, > > The coreboot.org mirror of the arm-trusted-firmware repo >

[coreboot] Re: [RFC] How should we manage tree-wide changes?

2021-05-08 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Sa., 8. Mai 2021 um 03:08 Uhr schrieb Julius Werner : > I understand that you might like to have both [features and stability] but > I think that's just fundamentally impossible -- big new features just tend > to require deep, invasive changes. +1 > I think we could encourage that, I don't

[coreboot] Releasing coreboot 4.14 (on Monday)

2021-05-07 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi everybody, I still plan to do the coreboot release on Monday (or, if things are really bad, on Tuesday), even though I'm somewhat behind on our checklist. This means we are at the https://doc.coreboot.org/releases/checklist.html#week-prior-to-release stage. Therefore, if you have hardware and

[coreboot] Re: [RFC] How should we manage tree-wide changes?

2021-05-06 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Do., 6. Mai 2021 um 14:03 Uhr schrieb Piotr Król : > If 3mdeb maintains some boards, we already testing those and would be > glad to hook, in secure way, to patch testing system, but I would like > to know where is interface documentation so I can evaluate cost of > integration and convince

[coreboot] Re: Dropping the "cbfs master header" file

2021-04-28 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi Arthur, The master header is a legacy thing and I'm in favor of removing it. That said, as you and Michal mentioned, there's some work to do first. I started https://ticket.coreboot.org/issues/306 to help track what's missing. Patrick Am Mi., 28. Apr. 2021 um 08:42 Uhr schrieb Arthur

[coreboot] Re: [RFC] How should we manage tree-wide changes?

2021-04-27 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Do., 22. Apr. 2021 um 22:58 Uhr schrieb Peter Stuge : > Patrick Georgi via coreboot wrote: > > tree-wide changes > .. > > there may be other approaches on how to make development easier > > I'm a big fan of semantic patching as provided by coccinelle and used &

[coreboot] Intent to release coreboot 4.14 on May 10

2021-04-26 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi everybody, This email starts the release process for coreboot 4.14, so we're now at the "~2 weeks prior to release" step in our https://doc.coreboot.org/releases/checklist.html As usual, our releases don't denote any particular feature or stability milestone, they only serve two purposes: 1.

[coreboot] [RFC] How should we manage tree-wide changes?

2021-04-21 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi everybody, In our leadership meeting[1] we discussed how we should deal with tree-wide changes (ranging from "new file header" to "some API is gone now"). The concern was that right now, anything can change at any time, making local development harder. There have been a few ideas but nothing

[coreboot] Re: On handling vendorcode

2021-04-07 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Mi., 7. Apr. 2021 um 01:12 Uhr schrieb Julius Werner < jwer...@chromium.org>: > I think we still need to have a difference between hacky vendor stuff > and normal coreboot code. For example, the Eltan mboot stuff is > something we didn't really want to have in coreboot in that form, and > so

[coreboot] Re: On handling vendorcode

2021-04-07 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Di., 6. Apr. 2021 um 21:21 Uhr schrieb Peter Stuge : > Patrick Georgi via coreboot wrote: > > Any objections to moving the code out there that has no other upstream > > (e.g. src/vendorcode/google/chromeos or src/vendorcode/eltan, I think?) > > while moving in code from

[coreboot] On handling vendorcode

2021-04-06 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi everybody, We recently landed a change (https://review.coreboot.org/51827) to be more selective which parts of src/vendorcode are checked for coding style because some areas are really coreboot code "by vendors". The original purpose of that subhierarchy was to isolate code we draw in from

[coreboot] coding style discussions, again.

2021-03-25 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hello everybody, https://review.coreboot.org/c/coreboot/+/51825 proposes getting rid of the rule to make if-statement blocks (and the like) as short as possible. The rationale is to encourage a style that avoids subtle bugs which then need to be found by tooling such as Coverity Scan and fixed by

[coreboot] Re: Posting via web interface doesn't work (was: Kann keinen Thread eröffnen)

2021-03-18 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Do., 18. März 2021 um 04:04 Uhr schrieb Tobias Wiese < tob...@tobiaswiese.com>: > Actually since HyperKitty Version 1.3.4 the HYPERKITTY_ALLOW_WEB_POSTING > setting should do that. > This might prevent further confusion for others. > The last time I looked that didn't exist yet, but I disabled

[coreboot] Re: Kann keinen Thread eröffnen

2021-03-16 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Dear Mr. Kunze, Am Di., 16. März 2021 um 17:43 Uhr schrieb web25322986p1 < gottfried.ku...@fanfara.de>: > Trotz Anmeldung bei der Mailiglist (bin eingeloggt) kann ich jedoch keinen > Thread beginnen. Ich erhalte stets: > *Error 404 not found. > * > > We disabled the mail editor in hyperkitty

[coreboot] Re: Running QEMU targets in Jenkins

2021-03-04 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi Julius, https://qa.coreboot.org/job/coreboot-boot-test/ sends off ToT builds to 9esec's Lava system where they are run on some virtual and real devices. See for example the comments to https://review.coreboot.org/c/coreboot/+/51189 where Lava reports passing on 5 qemu configs and 3 real

[coreboot] Announcing our new job board

2021-02-26 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi everybody, In our leadership meetings we repeatedly had companies using coreboot look for qualified staff. In response this created a job site at coreboot.org, linked prominently from our landing page, accessible at https://coreboot.org/jobs.html So if you're looking for a coreboot related

[coreboot] Re: Intel CBnT tooling and dealing with NDA

2021-02-23 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi Enrico, (list to bcc) not speaking about the technical difficulties you face with golang or the general topic of blob use here, just one thing: Don't post conspiracy theories here. Well, two things: We also do not punching here (except for cards, maybe, if we're in the mood for some retro

[coreboot] Re: Regarding GSoC 2020

2021-02-22 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Mo., 22. Feb. 2021 um 12:31 Uhr schrieb Vedant Paranjape < vedantparanjape160...@gmail.com>: > Thanks for the update. I joined coreboot IRC, it doesn't seem active. Any > other communication channel to lookout for? > The channel is reasonably active for a medium size project like coreboot, but

[coreboot] Re: GSoC query

2021-02-22 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi Hritik Vijay, we applied to GSoC but they will only announce the projects that will participate this year on March 9. Regards, Patrick Am Fr., 19. Feb. 2021 um 09:52 Uhr schrieb Hritik Vijay via coreboot < coreboot@coreboot.org>: > Hi > Coreboot appeared last year in the GSoC initiative, I

[coreboot] Re: Regarding GSoC 2020

2021-02-22 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi Vedant, coreboot has applied to this year's GSoC but GSoC still has to decide on the projects they want to host: That will be announced on March 9. Patrick Am Sa., 20. Feb. 2021 um 07:40 Uhr schrieb : > Hi, I am interested to apply to gsoc2020, is coreboot going to apply in > gsoc 2021? >

[coreboot] Mailing list issues, update

2021-02-15 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi everybody, There have been some issues with the mailing lists hosted at coreboot.org (spanning multiple projects: coreboot, flashrom, seabios and openbios) related to configuration changes in response to our precious little spammer. As a result some people have seen mailing list delivery to

[coreboot] Mailing list moderation

2021-02-12 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi everybody, As we're encountering a spam campaign right now by a sufficiently motivated actor to get through our filters I put the mailing list on moderation until this silliness subsides. For this reason delivery of mails sent to this list may be delayed. Thanks for your patience, Patrick --

[coreboot] Re: Intel CBnT tooling and dealing with NDA

2021-02-09 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Di., 9. Feb. 2021 um 11:34 Uhr schrieb Arthur Heymans < arthur.heym...@9elements.com>: > So TL;DR: > - Is (temporarily) adding a tool to the blobs repo ok? > If it matches the requirements of the blobs repo wrt. license terms and documentation, I don't see why not from a formal perspective.

[coreboot] Tooling of choice for coordinating and running the coreboot leadership meeting

2021-01-13 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi everybody, when announcing today's leadership meeting on IRC I got some replies to the tune of "oh no, Google!" as the meeting minutes are recorded on Google Docs and the meeting itself is held using Google Meet. Note that both are set up to be usable without a Google account, so the impact

[coreboot] Re: Supporting a new board

2021-01-12 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Di., 12. Jan. 2021 um 09:47 Uhr schrieb Alif Ilhan : > Well, should I share the code? But I am trying with Pineview raminit > codes, both the MRC.bin and native one. The bios session document mentioned > "Cedar View uses the same MRC build environment as Pineview" > We welcome contributions

[coreboot] Re: Idiots guide to devicetree.cb

2020-11-25 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Mi., 25. Nov. 2020 um 15:57 Uhr schrieb : > On 2020-11-24 03:05, Andy Pont wrote: > > Is there an idiots guide to the definitions in devicetree.cb? Trying > > to make sense of the USB and PCIe configuration stuff. > https://doc.coreboot.org/acpi/devicetree.html describes some aspects but it's

[coreboot] Re: System gcc requirements

2020-11-20 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Do., 19. Nov. 2020 um 18:32 Uhr schrieb Peter Stuge : > Patrick Georgi via coreboot wrote: > > > My argument is solely on complexity, but please don't trust that hash > too > > > much. > > > > If I shouldn't trust > > "16 commit 4c523ed10

[coreboot] Re: System gcc requirements

2020-11-19 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Do., 19. Nov. 2020 um 01:26 Uhr schrieb Peter Stuge : > > the Git SHA of the submodule HEAD is stored in the main coreboot repo. > > My argument is solely on complexity, but please don't trust that hash too > much. > If I shouldn't trust "16 commit 4c523ed10f25de872ac0513ebd6ca53d3970b9de

[coreboot] Re: System gcc requirements

2020-11-18 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Mi., 18. Nov. 2020 um 23:54 Uhr schrieb Julius Werner < jwer...@chromium.org>: > because unlike everything > else you need to build coreboot there seems to be no way to get an ADA > toolchain from crossgcc. gnat (gcc's Ada implementation) needs an Ada implementation to bootstrap (just like

[coreboot] Re: Undepend on vboot [was: System gcc requirements]

2020-11-18 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Mi., 18. Nov. 2020 um 22:03 Uhr schrieb Nico Huber : > The vboot dependency has been a PITA for a while. I'll happily accept > patches that make it less of a pain even if that means a little more > maintenance effort. I'd even accept a local hash implementation. That's an option. That isn't

[coreboot] Re: Undepend on vboot [was: System gcc requirements]

2020-11-18 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Mi., 18. Nov. 2020 um 22:15 Uhr schrieb bzt : > I believe you are both unnecessarily overcomplicate this. The way I > see it the only issue here is a few missing ifdef guards for > CONFIG_VBOOT in cbfs, that's all. Quite straightforward to solve. > CONFIG_VBOOT enables vboot, the verified boot

[coreboot] Termin mit Notiz abgesagt: coreboot Leadership Meeting - Mi 2. Dez. 2020 19:00 - 20:00 (MEZ) (coreboot@coreboot.org)

2020-11-18 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
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[coreboot] Re: Undepend on vboot [was: System gcc requirements]

2020-11-18 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Di., 17. Nov. 2020 um 18:54 Uhr schrieb Peter Stuge : > Patrick Georgi via coreboot wrote: > > coreboot doesn't, cbfstool does. > > If that were the case things would already be a lot better! > > Alas, coreboot unconditionally requires vboot in these files: > Oops, I fo

[coreboot] Re: System gcc requirements

2020-11-18 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Mi., 18. Nov. 2020 um 09:14 Uhr schrieb David Hendricks < david.hendri...@gmail.com>: > or is the problem here just the fact that the hashing library is part of a > submodule? > If it's the submodule that is in question here, we _could_ import vboot as a subtree (and compatibly, too!),

[coreboot] Re: System gcc requirements

2020-11-17 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Di., 17. Nov. 2020 um 05:06 Uhr schrieb Peter Stuge : > It's absurd to me that coreboot would require any routines out of any > submodule for a build which will not use those routines. coreboot doesn't, cbfstool does. One purpose of Kconfig is to ensure that only what's neccessary gets

[coreboot] Re: Feature request: add payload "Tianocore with SeaBIOS CSM"

2020-11-16 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am So., 15. Nov. 2020 um 19:43 Uhr schrieb Matt DeVillier < matt.devill...@gmail.com>: > if it were as simple as building Tianocore with SeaBIOS as the CSM, that > would be the default option offered, but unfortunately it's not. The > neither Tianocore package (the default CorebootPayloadPkg, nor

[coreboot] Re: Should coreboot.org provide a vendor-agnostic hub for open hardware projects?

2020-09-26 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 01:06:13PM +0200, Christian Walter wrote: > what does "coreboot compatible open hardware" means here? Do we have > some kind of specification for this or does that "just" means no blobs > at all? No specification as yet, I wrote that email with the intent to start a

[coreboot] Should coreboot.org provide a vendor-agnostic hub for open hardware projects?

2020-09-23 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi everybody, I heard about a project interested int creating coreboot compatible open hardware. While that effort isn't ready to make any announcement, questions came up about where to host such a project. There's lots of open hardware out there already, but it's often based on not-quite open

[coreboot] Re: [RFC] Proposal to move all FSP 1.x binaries to "legacy" branch

2020-09-08 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Fr., 4. Sept. 2020 um 10:56 Uhr schrieb Nico Huber : > I would expect the opposite. At least for all coreboot revisions that > use a Git submodule. Those point to commits, not branches, and hence > should always work as long as the branch history is kept in tact > upstream. > Indeed: As long

[coreboot] Re: Issue-Tracker: Unable to reply

2020-07-08 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
On Wed, Jul 08, 2020 at 06:51:41PM +0200, Daniel Kulesz via coreboot wrote: > I wanted to reply in the Redmine issue tracker to a comment posted > by Patrick Georgi [1], however, it seems like I can only open new > issues and edit my own issue as well but not comment or reply to > comments. At

[coreboot] Language matters

2020-07-06 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi everybody, in last Wednesdays' leadership meeting we've been discussing how to deal with language in our code and community. I offered to report on our results and to start the wider discussion and so that's the aim of this email. You might have heard about calls to avoid certain terminology

[coreboot] Re: Supporting blobs with licenses that you agree to on download

2020-06-17 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Mi., 17. Juni 2020 um 02:47 Uhr schrieb Julius Werner < jwer...@chromium.org>: > Patrick, any further concerns from your side? If not, would you mind > creating a new repository for this? I can write the patches to move > blobs and adjust the Makefiles afterwards. > I will create a repo for

[coreboot] Re: I just tried to download from the repo a completely new tree it gave an error

2020-06-15 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Mo., 15. Juni 2020 um 22:27 Uhr schrieb Gregg Levine < gregg.drw...@gmail.com>: > Initialized empty Git repository in /usr/src/lobos/work4/coreboot/.git/ > fatal: https://review.coreboot.org/coreboot.git/info/refs download > error - The requested URL returned error: 406 >

[coreboot] Re: Supporting blobs with licenses that you agree to on download

2020-06-10 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Mi., 10. Juni 2020 um 03:43 Uhr schrieb Julius Werner < jwer...@chromium.org>: > > Clearly, the rules should be the same for all blobs, so if > > some blobs with language like this are already in the repository, it > > shouldn't be grounds to reject new blobs from landing. It's not unheard of

[coreboot] Re: Self-describing CBFS features - prefixed config and revision files

2020-06-02 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Di., 2. Juni 2020 um 17:50 Uhr schrieb Jeremy Jackson : > Below is a patch that does what I want for one of the points I > mentioned. Comments? Does this interfere with a different use case? > I'd say that change is reasonable. Care to push it to review.coreboot.org or should somebody else

[coreboot] Unit tests are now live on our build infrastructure

2020-05-28 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Hi everybody, Just a quick heads up: the unit tests in tests/ are now built and run on every commit pushed to review.coreboot.org. Consider this a good opportunity to improve our stability by contributing tests! Jan is writing a tutorial on writing tests that you can find for now at

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