Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CTI Every-name Indexing Project Progress

[Jacque Newman via CoTyroneList]

Okay then - sounds good.
Please sign me up as a volunteer.  
Jacquelyn 



 

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 As someone who is currently volunteering on this project, I can confirm that 
it is very easy and straightforward to work on.  Nothing tricky about it at 
all…..Barb Coulter


On Aug 19, 2018, at 10:44 AM, James McKane via CoTyroneList 
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I send you a spreadsheet template on which you type in every name from one page 
of the website into the spreadsheet.
Simple, he?
RegardsJim
Jim McKane
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Jim, I'd love to help, but don't know what it entails.
How is "indexing" done? Could you describe?
Thanks!Jacquelyn

 

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 Hello Listers - 
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only a very small portion of those names on the website.
If you are finding this database useful, maybe you would consider giving us a 
little help?
Every-Name Index
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CTI Every-name Indexing Project Progress

[BARBARA COULTER via CoTyroneList]

As someone who is currently volunteering on this project, I can confirm that it 
is very easy and straightforward to work on.  Nothing tricky about it at all…..
Barb Coulter

> On Aug 19, 2018, at 10:44 AM, James McKane via CoTyroneList 
>  wrote:
> 
> I send you a spreadsheet template on which you type in every name from one 
> page of the website into the spreadsheet.
> 
> Simple, he?
> 
> Regards
> Jim
> 
> Jim McKane
> South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 12:21 PM Jacque Newman via CoTyroneList 
> mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Jim, I'd love to help, but don't know what it entails.
> 
> How is "indexing" done? Could you describe?
> 
> Thanks!
> Jacquelyn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, August 19, 2018 7:56 AM, Jim McKane via CoTyroneList 
> mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Listers - 
> 
> Our faithful volunteers have now indexed over 20.3K (20,300) names. This is 
> only a very small portion of those names on the website.
> 
> If you are finding this database useful, maybe you would consider giving us a 
> little help?
> 
> Every-Name Index 
> 
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CTI Every-name Indexing Project Progress

[James McKane via CoTyroneList]

I send you a spreadsheet template on which you type in every name from one
page of the website into the spreadsheet.

Simple, he?

Regards
Jim

Jim McKane
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On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 12:21 PM Jacque Newman via CoTyroneList <
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>
> Jim, I'd love to help, but don't know what it entails.
>
> How is "indexing" done? Could you describe?
>
> Thanks!
> Jacquelyn
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, August 19, 2018 7:56 AM, Jim McKane via CoTyroneList <
> cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Listers -
>
> Our faithful volunteers have now indexed over 20.3K (20,300) names. This
> is only a very small portion of those names on the website.
>
> If you are finding this database useful, maybe you would consider giving
> us a little help?
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> Every-Name Index 
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CTI Every-name Indexing Project Progress

[Jacque Newman via CoTyroneList]

Jim, I'd love to help, but don't know what it entails.
How is "indexing" done? Could you describe?
Thanks!Jacquelyn

 

On Sunday, August 19, 2018 7:56 AM, Jim McKane via CoTyroneList 
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 Hello Listers - 
Our faithful volunteers have now indexed over 20.3K (20,300) names. This is 
only a very small portion of those names on the website.
If you are finding this database useful, maybe you would consider giving us a 
little help?
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Gibson Ancestors

[Nancy via CoTyroneList]

Much help.. Thank you so much..

From: elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList 
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Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Gibson Ancestors

Nancy, 


James will says that he had a farm in Ballee (which he left to his 2 sisters). 
Looking at the Valuation revision records for Ballee, I see 2 Porter farms 
there. Plot 16 was James senior and consisted of 28 acres, 1 rood & 25 perches. 
It was rented from the Abercorn estate. The tenant changes to Jane in 1889, 
James in 1901 and reps of James in 1908 (ie he had died). The farm was 
purchased under the Land Act in 1906 (ie with a government mortgage).



Adjacent on plot 17 was James Porter junior with an almost identical 28 acres 2 
roods & 25 perches. It changes to Margaret in 1889, then to John Stevenson in 
1890. In addition John senior & John junior had a quarter share of some common 
land on plot 20.



Senior & junior in Griffiths usually indicates father & son.



Presumably this is John junior in 1901:



http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Ballymagorry/Ballee/1753244/



Same household in 1911:



http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Ballymagorry/Ballee/849631/



Those 2 farms today are on the Ballee Rd and the Towncastle Rd.



Some references in PRONI in the Abercorn Estate papers: D623/A/127/32 
21.8.1814: John McCrea's farm at Ballymagorry sold for £620 to James Porter of 
Ballee, a most respectable industrious young man.



D623/B/12/13 31 January 1835 Marquess of Abercorn, to John Porter, Ballee, Co. 
Tyrone. Lease for one life or 21 years of 40a.0r.31p. Statute measure of land 
at Ballee. Rent £20.19.9. Covenants with all rights, members, privileges and 
appurtenances belonging or appertaining.



D623/B/13/108  10 March 1862 John Porter, Ballee, Co. Tyrone, to Robert 
McCleery, Ballee. Conveyance of 69a.2r.1p. of farmland at Ballee. Consideration 
£200.




Hope this is of interest.




Elwyn


On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 2:43 AM, Peter Kincaid via CoTyroneList 
 wrote:

  Did your Mary Margaret (Porter) Gibson return to County Tyrone?  I see the 
following abstract for a Margaret Porter in Ballee: 

  Title : Mrs Date of Death : 11 November 1927
  Surname : Gibson Date of Grant : 19 November 1956
  Forename : Margaret Reseal Date : 
  Registry : Londonderry Effects : Effects £25 0s 0d
  No Image
  Full Abstract :
  Gibson Margaret of Ballee Strabane county Tyrone widow died 11 November 1927 
Probate Londonderry 19 November to Robert John Gibson farmer. Effects £25.

  If not her, then likely a relative.

  Kincaids were in Ballee townland as well.  There was a Kincaid-Porter union 
in the mid 1800s in Londonderry:

  On 25 November 1862, Andrew Kinkaid, a full age bachelor farmer of Dundrain, 
son of John Kinkaid, farmer, was married to Jane Porter, a 20 year old spinster 
of Elagh, daughter of Andrew Porter, farmer at Ballyarnet Parish Church, 
Templemore Parish, County Londonderry to the form and discipline of the 
Presbyterian Church by license by Robert McCreery.  The witnesses were William 
Robinson and George Adair [Ireland.  Civil Registrations of Marriages.  
Londonderry, 1862, vol. 7, p. 261, no. 47; LDS film no. 101438].

  While in the Glasgow area, this Kincaid family hailed from Ireland and I 
suspect them to be from Donagheady Parish (Maghereagh and Drummeny 
connections).  I thought I'd add it here in case the name fit with some of 
yours.

  The Statutory Death Registers records the death of Margaret Porter "suddenly 
in Alexander Kincaid's house Levern Bank, Neilston"  on 5 August 1880 at Levern 
Bank, Neilston, being a 60 year old daughter of the deceased William Kincaid, 
miller, and the deceased Janet Ferrie and spouse of 1) George Porter, 
shoemaker, and 2) Joseph Porter, shoemaker.  Her sister Jean Kincaid was 
present at her death [GROS, Neilston District, Renfrew County, 572/01 0069.  p. 
23, no. 69].

  Peter Kincaid



  On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Nancy via CoTyroneList 
 wrote:

 My great-great-grandfather John Thomas Gibson was born in County 
Tyrone, Northern Ireland (Strabane) in 1802. He attended Donagheady 
Presbyterian Church. he  came to America in 1830 with his wife Mary Margaret 
Porter. They settled in Franklin , Kentucky. I’m trying to find out who his 
parents were . The family received letters from Margaret Porter (Mary’s Aunt) 
1816-1894 she mentions her Brother James Porter 1800-1884 and sister Rebecca 
1806-1893.(the 3 never married) I can find their wills but can’t find anything 
in a census where they lived with Mary Margaret or John’s parents. The siblings 
had some kind of land they leased out . The letters were written in 1833.   She 
mentions Aunt Holmes..Thomas Boyd, Sir John and Carol out of Mayors office and 
Humphreys is in. Mentions their  neighbors in Ballee Todd.  In 1886  she 
mentions a Sarah Gibson getting 2 letters  from Kentucky and and 1 letter 

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Gibson Ancestors

[Nancy via CoTyroneList]

Thanks for the info...maybe I can make a connection.   No Mary Gibson never 
returned to Ireland..She died in Round Rock, Simpson County, Kentucky. Her 
Husband John died in Andersonville , Ga. in1865 prisoner in civil war. Margaret 
and Rebecca and James never married. but had a lot of land leases. And for as I 
know still lived in Strabane. James died in 1884 has a will , Rebecca died in 
1893 has a will , Margaret died in 1894 has a will. 

From: Peter Kincaid via CoTyroneList 
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Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Gibson Ancestors

Did your Mary Margaret (Porter) Gibson return to County Tyrone?  I see the 
following abstract for a Margaret Porter in Ballee: 

Title : Mrs Date of Death : 11 November 1927
Surname : Gibson Date of Grant : 19 November 1956
Forename : Margaret Reseal Date : 
Registry : Londonderry Effects : Effects £25 0s 0d
No Image
Full Abstract :
Gibson Margaret of Ballee Strabane county Tyrone widow died 11 November 1927 
Probate Londonderry 19 November to Robert John Gibson farmer. Effects £25.

If not her, then likely a relative.

Kincaids were in Ballee townland as well.  There was a Kincaid-Porter union in 
the mid 1800s in Londonderry:

On 25 November 1862, Andrew Kinkaid, a full age bachelor farmer of Dundrain, 
son of John Kinkaid, farmer, was married to Jane Porter, a 20 year old spinster 
of Elagh, daughter of Andrew Porter, farmer at Ballyarnet Parish Church, 
Templemore Parish, County Londonderry to the form and discipline of the 
Presbyterian Church by license by Robert McCreery.  The witnesses were William 
Robinson and George Adair [Ireland.  Civil Registrations of Marriages.  
Londonderry, 1862, vol. 7, p. 261, no. 47; LDS film no. 101438].

While in the Glasgow area, this Kincaid family hailed from Ireland and I 
suspect them to be from Donagheady Parish (Maghereagh and Drummeny 
connections).  I thought I'd add it here in case the name fit with some of 
yours.

The Statutory Death Registers records the death of Margaret Porter "suddenly in 
Alexander Kincaid's house Levern Bank, Neilston"  on 5 August 1880 at Levern 
Bank, Neilston, being a 60 year old daughter of the deceased William Kincaid, 
miller, and the deceased Janet Ferrie and spouse of 1) George Porter, 
shoemaker, and 2) Joseph Porter, shoemaker.  Her sister Jean Kincaid was 
present at her death [GROS, Neilston District, Renfrew County, 572/01 0069.  p. 
23, no. 69].

Peter Kincaid



On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Nancy via CoTyroneList 
 wrote:

   My great-great-grandfather John Thomas Gibson was born in County 
Tyrone, Northern Ireland (Strabane) in 1802. He attended Donagheady 
Presbyterian Church. he  came to America in 1830 with his wife Mary Margaret 
Porter. They settled in Franklin , Kentucky. I’m trying to find out who his 
parents were . The family received letters from Margaret Porter (Mary’s Aunt) 
1816-1894 she mentions her Brother James Porter 1800-1884 and sister Rebecca 
1806-1893.(the 3 never married) I can find their wills but can’t find anything 
in a census where they lived with Mary Margaret or John’s parents. The siblings 
had some kind of land they leased out . The letters were written in 1833.   She 
mentions Aunt Holmes..Thomas Boyd, Sir John and Carol out of Mayors office and 
Humphreys is in. Mentions their  neighbors in Ballee Todd.  In 1886  she 
mentions a Sarah Gibson getting 2 letters  from Kentucky and and 1 letter from 
Rebekah’s son (this is not the same Rebecca ,her sister)  Could Sarah be John’s 
mother.??? I sure hope someone can help me..I sure would appreciate it. Thanks 
, Nancy








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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] The Northern Irish winter of 1946-7

[Nancy via CoTyroneList]

Sorry... No Only ...Gibson and Porter

From: Len Swindley via CoTyroneList 
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2018 7:11 PM
To: gordon.wilkin...@ozemail.com.au ; CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List 
Cc: Len Swindley ; Gordon Wilkinson 
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] The Northern Irish winter of 1946-7

Hello Gordon,



Thanks for recalling your great childhood memories of the big chill of 1947 in 
Belfast and sharing them with us at CTI. Gosh!



You mention that your Wilkinson forebears hailed from Dungannon, Co. Tyrone and 
recalled that I may have an odd note on that family, so went looking 
anticipating that I may be successful.this is what it is possible to 
offer:



RANFURLY DOCUMENTS held in PRONI, Belfast

Ranfurly Estate, Dungannon - Lease Book 1750-1812

PRONI, Belfast Ref. D.O.D. 235

FHL Film #0258634

  No.
 Leaseholder
 Lease Commenced
 No. Lives
 Named Lives
 
  172
 HUGH WILKINSON
 1809
 3 lives
 HUGH WILKINSON, lessee, HUGH WILKINSON, son of THOS. WILKINSON of Cadien & 
JAMES ORR, son of JOSEPH ORR of Coolhill
 



Is it possible that these folk are your family?



Cadian lies within Clonfeacle parish: see my file of the CLONFEACLE TITHE 
APPLOTMENT BOOK (1833) for Wilkinson entries 
http://www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/t-a-clonfeacle.html

For an explanation of leases of lives see 
https://www.irishfamilyhistorycentre.com/article/lease-of-lives



Trust this of some assistance in your quest for your forebears?

Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia





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From: CoTyroneList  on behalf of 
Gordon Wilkinson via CoTyroneList 
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2018 5:30:34 PM
To: Tyrone Mail List
Cc: Gordon Wilkinson
Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] The Northern Irish winter of 1946-7 

G'day listers,

My Wilkinsons came from Dungannon and I have just been reading Viola's 
lovely report of the Fermanagh Blizzard of Jan 1947, 
 and well can I remember 
that winter! I lived in Belfast at the time and enjoyed tobogganing in 
the deep snow of that winter. Father was works manager of Patrick & 
Wilkinson, Engineers, Belfast, and was able to secure steel runners for 
our sled; steel for such frivolities being rare after the war!

By January '47 the path to our front door was covered with a solid layer 
of ice (compacted snow) and I was instructed by my father to 'clear the 
gangway' after school (his father being a marine engineer). It was hard 
going for a young lad barely half Viola's age at that time and when 
father arrived home, I complained how difficult it was to shovel the ice 
off the slate flags (paving). "Why not cut it up into blocks and build 
yourself an igloo?" he suggested. I asked what an igloo was and he 
sketched the essentials. I built that igloo which, like Viola's snowmen, 
remained long after the snow had melted and was still there come Easter. 
'Twas  a cold winter to be sure an' all.

We couldn't get to Australia quickly enough and arrived here a year later!

Cheers, Gordon

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[CoTyroneMailingList] CTI Every-name Indexing Project Progress

[Jim McKane via CoTyroneList]

Hello Listers -

Our faithful volunteers have now indexed over 20.3K (20,300) names. This is
only a very small portion of those names on the website.

If you are finding this database useful, maybe you would consider giving us
a little help?

Every-Name Index 

Jim McKane, webmaster
South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Gibson Ancestors

[elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList]

Nancy,

James will says that he had a farm in Ballee (which he left to his 2
sisters). Looking at the Valuation revision records for Ballee, I see 2
Porter farms there. Plot 16 was James senior and consisted of 28 acres, 1
rood & 25 perches. It was rented from the Abercorn estate. The tenant
changes to Jane in 1889, James in 1901 and reps of James in 1908 (ie he had
died). The farm was purchased under the Land Act in 1906 (ie with a
government mortgage).



Adjacent on plot 17 was James Porter junior with an almost identical 28
acres 2 roods & 25 perches. It changes to Margaret in 1889, then to John
Stevenson in 1890. In addition John senior & John junior had a quarter
share of some common land on plot 20.



Senior & junior in Griffiths usually indicates father & son.



Presumably this is John junior in 1901:



http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Ballymagorry/Ballee/1753244/



Same household in 1911:



http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Ballymagorry/Ballee/849631/



Those 2 farms today are on the Ballee Rd and the Towncastle Rd.



Some references in PRONI in the Abercorn Estate papers: D623/A/127/32
21.8.1814: John McCrea's farm at Ballymagorry sold for £620 to James
*Porter* of *Ballee*, a most respectable industrious young man.



D623/B/12/13 31 January 1835 Marquess of Abercorn, to John *Porter*,
*Ballee*, Co. Tyrone. Lease for one life or 21 years of 40a.0r.31p. Statute
measure of land at *Ballee*. Rent £20.19.9. Covenants with all rights,
members, privileges and appurtenances belonging or appertaining.



D623/B/13/108  10 March 1862 John *Porter*, *Ballee*, Co. Tyrone, to Robert
McCleery, *Ballee. *Conveyance of 69a.2r.1p. of farmland at *Ballee*.
Consideration £200.


Hope this is of interest.


Elwyn

On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 2:43 AM, Peter Kincaid via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:

> Did your Mary Margaret (Porter) Gibson return to County Tyrone?  I see the
> following abstract for a Margaret Porter in Ballee:
>
> Title : Mrs Date of Death : 11 November 1927
> Surname : Gibson Date of Grant : 19 November 1956
> Forename : Margaret Reseal Date :
> Registry : Londonderry Effects : Effects £25 0s 0d
> No Image
> Full Abstract :
> Gibson Margaret of Ballee Strabane county Tyrone widow died 11 November
> 1927 Probate Londonderry 19 November to Robert John Gibson farmer. Effects
> £25.
>
> If not her, then likely a relative.
>
> Kincaids were in Ballee townland as well.  There was a Kincaid-Porter
> union in the mid 1800s in Londonderry:
>
> On 25 November 1862, Andrew Kinkaid, a full age bachelor farmer of
> Dundrain, son of John Kinkaid, farmer, was married to Jane Porter, a 20
> year old spinster of Elagh, daughter of Andrew Porter, farmer at Ballyarnet
> Parish Church, Templemore Parish, County Londonderry to the form and
> discipline of the Presbyterian Church by license by Robert McCreery.  The
> witnesses were William Robinson and George Adair [Ireland.  Civil
> Registrations of Marriages.  Londonderry, 1862, vol. 7, p. 261, no. 47; LDS
> film no. 101438].
>
> While in the Glasgow area, this Kincaid family hailed from Ireland and I
> suspect them to be from Donagheady Parish (Maghereagh and Drummeny
> connections).  I thought I'd add it here in case the name fit with some of
> yours.
>
> The Statutory Death Registers records the death of Margaret Porter
> "suddenly in Alexander Kincaid's house Levern Bank, Neilston"  on 5 August
> 1880 at Levern Bank, Neilston, being a 60 year old daughter of the deceased
> William Kincaid, miller, and the deceased Janet Ferrie and spouse of 1)
> George Porter, shoemaker, and 2) Joseph Porter, shoemaker.  Her sister Jean
> Kincaid was present at her death [GROS, Neilston District, Renfrew County,
> 572/01 0069.  p. 23, no. 69].
>
> Peter Kincaid
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Nancy via CoTyroneList <
> cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
>
>>  My great-great-grandfather John Thomas Gibson was born in County
>> Tyrone, Northern Ireland (Strabane) in 1802. He attended Donagheady
>> Presbyterian Church. he  came to America in 1830 with his wife Mary
>> Margaret Porter. They settled in Franklin , Kentucky. I’m trying to find
>> out who his parents were . The family received letters from Margaret Porter
>> (Mary’s Aunt) 1816-1894 she mentions her Brother James Porter 1800-1884 and
>> sister Rebecca 1806-1893.(the 3 never married) I can find their wills but
>> can’t find anything in a census where they lived with Mary Margaret or
>> John’s parents. The siblings had some kind of land they leased out . The
>> letters were written in 1833.   She mentions Aunt Holmes..Thomas Boyd, Sir
>> John and Carol out of Mayors office and Humphreys is in. Mentions their
>> neighbors in Ballee Todd.  In 1886  she mentions a Sarah Gibson getting 2
>> letters  from Kentucky and and 1 letter from Rebekah’s son (this is not the
>> same Rebecca ,her sister)  Could Sarah be John’s mother.??? I