[CoTyroneMailingList] Bob the Protestant Horse.

2020-06-29 Thread Gordon Wilkinson via CoTyroneList
We've mentioned "Bob, the Protestant Horse" by Michael McDonald. Once I started to read it, I couldn't but it down. It is a humourous, whimsical and very true description of Irish rural life in the 1950s. Loved his dry Irish humour. I can vouch that what the author says is true, every word! I

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Passing on of Tenancies

2020-06-29 Thread Peter McKittrick via CoTyroneList
Thanks, re LAP, was familiar with the term in fee. According to Wikipedia there were early land purchase schemes involving loans but none as attractive as those under the Wyndham Act. Peter > On 30 Jun 2020, at 12:43 pm, elwyn soutter > wrote: > > Peter, > > LAP stands for “Land Act

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Passing on of Tenancies

2020-06-29 Thread elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList
Peter, LAP stands for “Land Act Purchase”. As far as I am aware, it was introduced with the 1903 Land Act, often known as Wyndham’s Land Act, so you shouldn’t see it in use before that year. It provided the final piece of legislation to make land ownership more reasonable in Ireland, especially

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Passing on of Tenancies

2020-06-29 Thread Peter McKittrick via CoTyroneList
Thank you, Elwyn. Your explanation of “reps of” and background was very helpful. Obviously long term leases could be dealt with as any other asset, but what threw me was that I would have expected some more legal language (e.g. executor of……legal representative of…etc). So the lease I have

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Passing on of Tenancies

2020-06-29 Thread Liz Fitzgerald via CoTyroneList
Thank you. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 29, 2020, at 11:54 AM, elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList > wrote: > > Rick, > > > > I can’t point you to specific legislation, but all I can say is that all > the documentation I have ever seen points to a rented farm being heritable > the same as any

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Passing on of Tenancies

2020-06-29 Thread elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList
Rick, I can’t point you to specific legislation, but all I can say is that all the documentation I have ever seen points to a rented farm being heritable the same as any other asset. The farmer was free to dispose of it as he chose. What he was disposing of was the unexpired portion of the

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Passing on of Tenancies

2020-06-29 Thread Rick Smoll via CoTyroneList
Hello Elwyn Both you and Peter are addressing lease issues pertaining to the circumstances around the death of the landowner (which is interesting info for certain); I am wondering though if you have come across any information as to how the lease was legally passed on from generation to

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Passing on of Tenancies

2020-06-29 Thread elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList
Peter, Sorry if you feel I misinterpreted your words. (You said: “may be to avoid having to draw up a new lease until it was necessary.”) Dodge wasn’t intended in any pejorative way, simply as being expedient. Elwyn On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 11:47, Peter McKittrick via CoTyroneList <

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Passing on of Tenancies

2020-06-29 Thread Peter McKittrick via CoTyroneList
Just in case my email didn’t go to the mailing list, I’ll repeat my response to Elwyn Souter: Elwyn, at no stage did I suggest it was a “dodge” thank you. Peter Sent from my iPhone > On 29 Jun 2020, at 8:16 pm, Peter McKittrick wrote: > > Elwyn, at no time did I suggest it was a “dodge”

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Passing on of Tenancies

2020-06-29 Thread elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList
Regarding “reps of” cases, it was common for there to be significant delays in winding up of some estates. That could be a combination of slow or ineffective executors or it could be because there were disputes or other legal matters which delayed things. As a random search, I went to the PRONI

[CoTyroneMailingList] Passing on of Tenancies

2020-06-29 Thread Peter McKittrick via CoTyroneList
Hi Rick, you asked for an example of "Representatives of [Name] being listed in relation to tenancies. The example I’ve seen is when the Altmore Estate was auctioned in 1872 and the sale prospectus listed all the existing lease agreements including one over an Altmore property i.n.o. Robert