Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Revision Books of Griffiths Valuation
Thank you all for your responses. I have found I made a mistake in saying that in some cases the same book covers different time periods, so I am comfortable now. I did see revision dates in some more recent books. Peter McKittrick Cheltenham, Victoria, Australia > On 8 Sep 2019, at 5:14 AM, Dave Mitchell via CoTyroneList > wrote: > > Dear Peter. > > For the colour codings and dates, these are often shown on the inside cover > or on the first or second page of each revaluation book (these images now > also online at PRONI) – often gives a more exact date than in the actual > townland listings, although difficult to be definitive! > > Cf. VAL/12/B/42/26B (1864 - 1880) > > The External Cover to the book says: > > Page 1 – Revised in 1866 > Page 2 – Revisions, April 1872 (or is it 1873?), April 1874, April 1876 > > In the actual pages for the townland of Cullion (Donagheady parish), dates > are given as 1869, 1870, 1875, 1876, etc. > > Dave Mitchell > Cape Town > South Africa > > > From: CoTyroneList On Behalf Of > elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList > Sent: 07 September 2019 08:56 PM > To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List > Cc: elwyn soutter > Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Revision Books of Griffiths Valuation > > Griffiths clerks revisited properties every couple of years and noted the > changes. A different colour was normally used for each year. Sometimes the > years can be out by a year or two. The books themselves do have a specific > start and finish dates which are evident if you handle the originals. > Typically they lasted 7 to 10 years but some were for different periods. The > changes in the VAL numbers were usually because of population changes which > meant that some electoral districts needed split or moved. > > Elwyn > > On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 03:49, Peter McKittrick via CoTyroneList > mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>> > wrote: >> My recent subscription to the Mailing List has paid off almost immediately! >> Many thanks to Len Swindley for recently drawing attention to the online >> Revision Books. I had no idea they existed. The coverage over time and name >> changes have provided quite solid confirmation of aspects of my family tree. >> >> I have noticed that the date of changes is unclear, being restricted to >> specific periods of years, so the best I have been able to conclude is that >> the change(s) took place by such and such year at the latest. Change >> sequences are clear and useful. Sometimes the same book (going by page >> markings) purports to cover several different time periods even though >> having different “VAL” numbers. This creates a bit of uncertainty. The books >> themselves do not seem to have dates. Does anyone have any comments in this >> regard? >> >> Peter McKittrick >> Cheltenham, Vic Australia >> ___ >> CoTyroneList Mailing List >> Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com >> <mailto:CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com> >> Change Your Preferences: >> http://cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com >> <http://cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com> >> Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY >> <https://goo.gl/mQCKrY>___ > CoTyroneList Mailing List > Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com > Change Your Preferences: > http://cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com > Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY ___ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com Change Your Preferences: http://cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY
Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Revision Books of Griffiths Valuation
Dear Peter. For the colour codings and dates, these are often shown on the inside cover or on the first or second page of each revaluation book (these images now also online at PRONI) – often gives a more exact date than in the actual townland listings, although difficult to be definitive! Cf. VAL/12/B/42/26B (1864 - 1880) The External Cover to the book says: Page 1 – Revised in 1866 Page 2 – Revisions, April 1872 (or is it 1873?), April 1874, April 1876 In the actual pages for the townland of Cullion (Donagheady parish), dates are given as 1869, 1870, 1875, 1876, etc. Dave Mitchell Cape Town South Africa From: CoTyroneList On Behalf Of elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList Sent: 07 September 2019 08:56 PM To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List Cc: elwyn soutter Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Revision Books of Griffiths Valuation Griffiths clerks revisited properties every couple of years and noted the changes. A different colour was normally used for each year. Sometimes the years can be out by a year or two. The books themselves do have a specific start and finish dates which are evident if you handle the originals. Typically they lasted 7 to 10 years but some were for different periods. The changes in the VAL numbers were usually because of population changes which meant that some electoral districts needed split or moved. Elwyn On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 03:49, Peter McKittrick via CoTyroneList mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> > wrote: My recent subscription to the Mailing List has paid off almost immediately! Many thanks to Len Swindley for recently drawing attention to the online Revision Books. I had no idea they existed. The coverage over time and name changes have provided quite solid confirmation of aspects of my family tree. I have noticed that the date of changes is unclear, being restricted to specific periods of years, so the best I have been able to conclude is that the change(s) took place by such and such year at the latest. Change sequences are clear and useful. Sometimes the same book (going by page markings) purports to cover several different time periods even though having different “VAL” numbers. This creates a bit of uncertainty. The books themselves do not seem to have dates. Does anyone have any comments in this regard? Peter McKittrick Cheltenham, Vic Australia ___ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com <mailto:CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com> Change Your Preferences: http://cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY ___ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com Change Your Preferences: http://cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY
Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Revision Books of Griffiths Valuation
Griffiths clerks revisited properties every couple of years and noted the changes. A different colour was normally used for each year. Sometimes the years can be out by a year or two. The books themselves do have a specific start and finish dates which are evident if you handle the originals. Typically they lasted 7 to 10 years but some were for different periods. The changes in the VAL numbers were usually because of population changes which meant that some electoral districts needed split or moved. Elwyn On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 03:49, Peter McKittrick via CoTyroneList < cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote: > My recent subscription to the Mailing List has paid off almost > immediately! Many thanks to Len Swindley for recently drawing attention to > the online Revision Books. I had no idea they existed. The coverage over > time and name changes have provided quite solid confirmation of aspects of > my family tree. > > I have noticed that the date of changes is unclear, being restricted to > specific periods of years, so the best I have been able to conclude is that > the change(s) took place by such and such year at the latest. Change > sequences are clear and useful. Sometimes the same book (going by page > markings) purports to cover several different time periods even though > having different “VAL” numbers. This creates a bit of uncertainty. The > books themselves do not seem to have dates. Does anyone have any comments > in this regard? > > Peter McKittrick > Cheltenham, Vic Australia > ___ > CoTyroneList Mailing List > Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com > Change Your Preferences: > http://cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com > Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY > ___ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com Change Your Preferences: http://cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY
[CoTyroneMailingList] Revision Books of Griffiths Valuation
My recent subscription to the Mailing List has paid off almost immediately! Many thanks to Len Swindley for recently drawing attention to the online Revision Books. I had no idea they existed. The coverage over time and name changes have provided quite solid confirmation of aspects of my family tree. I have noticed that the date of changes is unclear, being restricted to specific periods of years, so the best I have been able to conclude is that the change(s) took place by such and such year at the latest. Change sequences are clear and useful. Sometimes the same book (going by page markings) purports to cover several different time periods even though having different “VAL” numbers. This creates a bit of uncertainty. The books themselves do not seem to have dates. Does anyone have any comments in this regard? Peter McKittrick Cheltenham, Vic Australia ___ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com Change Your Preferences: http://cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY
