Re: [courier-users] Filter API

2007-01-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
Lorenzo Perone wrote:
 
 ic - what do you mean by injecting? copies of the [modified] ctrl
 and msg files in courier's spool dirs?

Nope.  I call submit and feed it the same data that esmtpd does.  I think.


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Re: [courier-users] Ldap Authentication

2007-01-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
Vikas Kadam wrote:
 
 I have Installed and Configure qmail+ldap+pop3 which are working fine.
 I have installed Courier-imap-4.0.2 and courier-authlib  but I am not able
 to authenticate through My Ldap Server. It gives me following Error Msg.
...
 a1 login sagar redhat
 * BYE Temporary problem, please try again later

Check your mail logs.  Make sure authdaemond is running.


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Re: [courier-users] Help a journalist: What do you wish the CIO understood about fighting spam?

2007-01-10 Thread Peter Ford
Esther Schindler wrote:

 /***If you could get your CIO (or top management) to understand one
 thing, just ONE thing, about fighting spam, what would it be?***/
Don't try to bounce spam - just quietly accept it and bin it later: if
that requires an upgrade to your mail server to handle it, then spend
the money!

 And the follow-up: why did you pick that one item?
1.If there's one thing that's worse than spam, it's being told that
some spammer has forged my address to send spam to someone else and it
bounced back to me. There's no point in telling spammers that you are
not accepting their wares - they're not listening!
2.   If you are a sysadmin and try to bounce spam, then you will find
that aside from all the forged email addresses that are real, there are
100 times as many that are made up, and postmaster will get pretty sick
of the failure messages when the bounces fail...
3.   A dedicated mail server to run (say) Courier + SpamAssassin +
ClamAV doesn't cost much if your business depends on email.

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[courier-users] Blowfish for passwd encryption in a postfix-mysql-courier system

2007-01-10 Thread Omar Martinez
Hi,

I'm moving a Suse based server: 3000 accounts, MTA: Sendmail,
passwd/shadow auth. The new server its Fedora Core 6 with
Postfix-Courier-MySQL.


SuSe use Blowfish to save the passwords, but Fedora does not recognize
this kind of encryption. Compiling  libxcrypt and pam_unix2 Fedora can
authorize the passwords in the system, But, still courier-authlib can
recognize the passwd.


Where can I enable BlowFish encryption in courier-authlib ?.

10X in advance by all your suggestions.!


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Re: [courier-users] Blowfish for passwd encryption in a postfix-mysql-courier system

2007-01-10 Thread Jay Lee

Omar Martinez wrote:

Hi,

I'm moving a Suse based server: 3000 accounts, MTA: Sendmail,
passwd/shadow auth. The new server its Fedora Core 6 with
Postfix-Courier-MySQL.
  
Why would you move to a platform that is going to be obsolete in a years 
time?  Fedora is a very bad choice for a server install IMHO.  You'd be 
*much* better off using RHEL4 or CentOS 4.

SuSe use Blowfish to save the passwords, but Fedora does not recognize
this kind of encryption. Compiling  libxcrypt and pam_unix2 Fedora can
authorize the passwords in the system, But, still courier-authlib can
recognize the passwd.
  
After the recompile did you try rebuilding Courier-authlib?  Are you 
rebuilding the libxcrypt and pam_unix2 RPMs or are you just building and 
installing them manually?

Where can I enable BlowFish encryption in courier-authlib ?.
  
My suspicion is that courier-authlib will use Blowfish if the underlying 
libary *that it was built against *supports blowfish.


Jay


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Re: [courier-users] Catch-all accounts

2007-01-10 Thread Robert Zajda
On 1/9/07, Milan Obuch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 09 January 2007 23:19, Bambero wrote:
  Hello
 
  I'm using userdb authorization only (authmodulelist=authuserdb), but
  I want to use catch-all accounts too. For ex.
  @mydomain.com: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Is it possible with userdb ? Aliases seems to not work with userdb.
 

 If you would like to accept mail to anyname@mydomain.com into one mailbox,
 just create mailbox [EMAIL PROTECTED] and empty .courier-default file in
 homedir for it. It works.

I created new account [EMAIL PROTECTED] in /etc/userdb and put empty
.courier-default in [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s home directory, but email
sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is rejected.

Bambero

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Re: [courier-users] courier-users Digest, Vol 9, Issue 13

2007-01-10 Thread Bernd Plagge
Hi,

thanks for the info.
I had a quick look at the mailman homepage - looks good.

Alles Gute,

Bernd

On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:02:08 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 差出人: Bernd Wurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 宛先:: courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 件名: Re: [courier-users] Courier and ezmlm-idx
 日付: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 09:22:16 +0100
 
 Hi.
 
 Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2007 08:44 schrieb Bernd Plagge:
  Alternatively I think that it should be possible to use ezmlm-idx with
  Courier and maildrop. Is there anybody doing this?  
 
 This would be hard work to do because ezmlm-idx does not use sendmail or such 
 a wrapper but tries to put messages directly into the QMail queue.
 
 I also tried to do this, you have to write a wrapper for the qmail-queue 
 application. 
 After a few tries, I gave up and used Mailman. Personally, I liked ezmlm-idx 
 more, but our customers like Mailman because everything can be done via web 
 interface.
 
 cu, Bernd

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Re: [courier-users] Help a journalist: What do you wish the CIO understood about fighting spam?

2007-01-10 Thread Alessandro Vesely
Esther Schindler wrote:
 /***If you could get your CIO (or top management) to understand one 
 thing, just ONE thing, about fighting spam, what would it be?***/

Remember your mailbox next time you vote.


 And the follow-up: why did you pick that one item?

The plan for spam, content filtering, is a chimera. If 'puters
can't _understand_ human messages, they cannot distinguish spam
and ham either. Full stop. Spamassassin, bogofilter, CRM114 and
the like are nice tools in the trench, but won't win the war.

Black lists are the most effective protocol-level filter. However,
they are not authoritative. For example, Telecom Italia is a big
company and every now and then gets blacklisted (Jan, 4 mail-abuse).
They got blacklisted for good reasons, e.g. some possessed PCs
relaying spam through their servers. Now, if I obey the black list
decision, I do a disservice to my customers. So I have to disobey.
Such a big company should either keep under surveillance their
clients, or officially appoint an external black list.

SPF is a generally not used protocol-level filter that allows
appointing black or white lists on a per domain basis. It would
be very effective if generally adopted. It won't be widely adopted
until it is an experimental protocol. IMHO, it's still experimental
because the industry cannot make big money with it. Therefore,
everybody look at the next silver bullet. If I were good at
English, I'd write something better than
http://www.openspf.org/Community/Who_Framed_Roger_Rabbit

Much spam is the result of criminal actions, such as infecting IT
systems and using false identities. Prosecuting those criminals
could be even automated, with existing technologies. Technically,
spam can be stopped if everybody else want to be responsible for
what they send. What lacks is the political will to do so.

Alessandro Vesely,
Free-lance programmer and service provider in Milano, Italy.




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[courier-users] filtering mail in a backup-mx

2007-01-10 Thread Manuel Schneider [Everything Open]
Hi,

I use courier-mta at another machine which acts as a backup-mx. It doesn't 
have any local users, just a few domains in its esmtacceptmailfor.

This works great so long, but I'd like to pipe all mails through spamassassin 
and clamassassin. A setup using maildrop and xfilter already exists from the 
primary mx, but how to implement a filter for mails which are just queued and 
not delivered locally?

Any ideas?

Thanks,


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Re: [courier-users] filtering mail in a backup-mx

2007-01-10 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Manuel Schneider [Everything Open] writes:


Hi,

I use courier-mta at another machine which acts as a backup-mx. It doesn't 
have any local users, just a few domains in its esmtacceptmailfor.


This works great so long, but I'd like to pipe all mails through spamassassin 
and clamassassin. A setup using maildrop and xfilter already exists from the 
primary mx, but how to implement a filter for mails which are just queued and 
not delivered locally?


Any ideas?


Yes.  Get rid of your backup MX.  A backup MX is no longer needed on the 
modern Internet.




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Re: [courier-users] filtering mail in a backup-mx

2007-01-10 Thread Manuel Schneider [Everything Open]
  Any ideas?

 Yes.  Get rid of your backup MX.  A backup MX is no longer needed on the
 modern Internet.
Very funny.


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Re: [courier-users] filtering mail in a backup-mx

2007-01-10 Thread Sergiy Zhuk
hi

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Manuel Schneider [Everything Open] wrote:

  Yes.  Get rid of your backup MX.  A backup MX is no longer needed on the
  modern Internet.
 Very funny.

He's right, unless your backup MX can reject mail for non-existent users at
your domain instead of accepting it, so you could bounce it later creating
backscatter.

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Re: [courier-users] Blowfish for passwd encryption in a postfix-mysql-courier system

2007-01-10 Thread Omar Martinez

Jay Lee wrote:
 Omar Martinez wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm moving a Suse based server: 3000 accounts, MTA: Sendmail,
 passwd/shadow auth. The new server its Fedora Core 6 with
 Postfix-Courier-MySQL.
   
 Why would you move to a platform that is going to be obsolete in a years
 time?  Fedora is a very bad choice for a server install IMHO.  You'd be
 *much* better off using RHEL4 or CentOS 4.

Yeah, maybe you're right

 SuSe use Blowfish to save the passwords, but Fedora does not recognize
 this kind of encryption. Compiling  libxcrypt and pam_unix2 Fedora can
 authorize the passwords in the system, But, still courier-authlib can
 recognize the passwd.
   
 After the recompile did you try rebuilding Courier-authlib?  Are you
 rebuilding the libxcrypt and pam_unix2 RPMs or are you just building and
 installing them manually?
 Where can I enable BlowFish encryption in courier-authlib ?.
   
 My suspicion is that courier-authlib will use Blowfish if the underlying
 libary *that it was built against *supports blowfish.

I follow your advice, but courier-authlib only can use blowfish crypted
password if the users are in the passwd/shadow file. This is because
authpam use the PAM module, but in the case of authmysql, courier use
the definitions of the file checkpassword.c and checkpasswordmd5.c (only
md5_crypt and md5_hash_courier functions defined in the md5 directory).

I'm working in quickeasy integration of the xcrypt functions in my
courier-auth-lib installation. It will be a solution to my problem, but
could be a start point for the future integration in the package..

If somebody resolve this problem before, I'll be thankful if can share
the solution.

Thanks Jay Lee by your advice...

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 Jay


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Re: [courier-users] filtering mail in a backup-mx

2007-01-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
Manuel Schneider [Everything Open] wrote:
 Any ideas?
 Yes.  Get rid of your backup MX.  A backup MX is no longer needed on the
 modern Internet.
 Very funny.

What makes you think it's a joke?  I'll admit, I have a backup MX at the 
site where I work, but that's only for political reasons.

A backup MX's job is to accept mail when your primary system can't, but 
remote sites are going to queue mail and retry delivery anyway.  You're 
not going to hurt site reliability by taking down you backup MX.

In practice, backup MXs are just spam targets these days.  Most sites 
that still have them don't protect them as well as their primary 
systems, so that's where many spammers deliver their mail.  Drop it and 
concentrate your efforts on one system.  You'll be happier with the results.

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Re: [courier-users] filtering mail in a backup-mx

2007-01-10 Thread Bernd Wurst
Hi.

Am Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2007 08:39 schrieb Gordon Messmer:
 A backup MX's job is to accept mail when your primary system can't, but
 remote sites are going to queue mail and retry delivery anyway.  You're
 not going to hurt site reliability by taking down you backup MX.

Two things here:
1. On your own backup-mx, YOU can control how long messages are queued and 
whether or when they are bounced.
2. YOU can re-deliver waiting messages when YOU want. So when you re-awake 
your primary mx, you just courier flush on the backup mx and the messages 
are there.


 In practice, backup MXs are just spam targets these days.  Most sites
 that still have them don't protect them as well as their primary
 systems, so that's where many spammers deliver their mail.  Drop it and
 concentrate your efforts on one system.  You'll be happier with the
 results.

My solution: I have set up the backup mx system as usual and then do a esmtpd 
stop. A simple script (executed once a few minutes) tests availability of 
the primary mx system (just connect, HELO and QUIT). If the primary seems 
down, esmtpd start gets executed. When the primary is there again, esmtpd 
gets stopped.

That combines both, availability in case of a failure and 
backscatter-protection.

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