Re: failure installing dependencies

Shmuel Fomberg writes: > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Andreas Koenig wrote: > From my experience this text lacks a few more facts about what the > current state of the issue is. I think such a ticket should point to the > ticket in the bugtracker of Test::Class that reports the bu

Re: failure installing dependencies

On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Andreas Koenig wrote: > > OK, I notice you have started and openened a couple of tickets > Here is my spreadsheet where I track my tickets: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Asx6ks0ZzUccdHM3bktQcEY5Y1d6NzVJX1VpM1hVUGc And I find the same boilerplate te

Re: failure installing dependencies

Shmuel Fomberg writes: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Andreas Koenig  wrote: > > Shmuel Fomberg  writes: > > >> Why would you inform all the dependent modules if the root cause is > >> already known? From a single RT ticket which needs to be pushed you > want > >> to multiply

Re: failure installing dependencies

On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:07:36PM +0900, Shmuel Fomberg wrote: > Let's take as a sample case Test::Class. It have a meaningless test fail, a > patch waiting in the RT, and a lot of modules depending on it. > How can I find the list of modules that directly depend on it? http://deps.cpantesters.o

Re: failure installing dependencies

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Steffen Schwigon wrote: > > > >> Ok, I generally understand your rationale, so even if I'm not convinced, > >> let's continue: how would you proceed after you have opened tickets on > >> all dependent modules? > > > > then I will track what happens. probable replie

Re: failure installing dependencies

Shmuel Fomberg writes: > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Steffen Schwigon wrote: > >> Shmuel Fomberg writes: >> > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Steffen Schwigon wrote: >> >> Why would you inform all the dependent modules if the root cause is >> >> already known? From a single RT ticket which n

Re: failure installing dependencies

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Andreas Koenig wrote: > Shmuel Fomberg writes: > > >> Why would you inform all the dependent modules if the root cause is > >> already known? From a single RT ticket which needs to be pushed you want > >> to multiply that onto all affected modules? > > > > becaus

Re: failure installing dependencies

Shmuel Fomberg writes: >> Why would you inform all the dependent modules if the root cause is >> already known? From a single RT ticket which needs to be pushed you want >> to multiply that onto all affected modules? > > because I'm trying to simulate an automated process, as Andreas Koenig > sug

Re: failure installing dependencies

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Steffen Schwigon wrote: > Shmuel Fomberg writes: > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Steffen Schwigon wrote: > >> Why would you inform all the dependent modules if the root cause is > >> already known? From a single RT ticket which needs to be pushed you > >> want

Re: failure installing dependencies

Shmuel Fomberg writes: > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Steffen Schwigon wrote: >> Why would you inform all the dependent modules if the root cause is >> already known? From a single RT ticket which needs to be pushed you >> want to multiply that onto all affected modules? >> > > because I'm try

Re: failure installing dependencies

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Steffen Schwigon wrote: > > > Let's take as a sample case Test::Class. It have a meaningless test > > fail, a patch waiting in the RT, and a lot of modules depending on it. > > How can I find the list of modules that directly depend on it? > > metacpan's reverse-de

Re: failure installing dependencies

Hi Barbie, On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Barbie wrote: >> > > Really? Thanks for your support! > > Read the blog you might learn a few things. > > Colour me unimpressed. I offered support to help fix already back in September. Of course I also might be not able to fix the issue. Dagolden me

Re: failure installing dependencies

On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 08:50:48PM +0100, Michiel Beijen wrote: > Really? Thanks for your support! Read the blog you might learn a few things. Colour me unimpressed. Cheers, Barbie. -- Birmingham Perl Mongers Memoirs Of A Roadie CP

Re: failure installing dependencies

Op 11 nov. 2012 17:27 schreef "Steffen Schwigon" het volgende: > A matrix like > http://matrix.cpantesters.org/?dist=Data-DPath-0.47 > potentially covers 500 combinations. > > And they are only comprehensible because they are in 2 dimensions. > > What you want adds new dimensions, a hypercube o

Re: failure installing dependencies

Shmuel Fomberg writes: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Andreas Koenig wrote: > >> >> > as a module user I don't really care why it failed to install - it is as >> > unusable to me as any other problem. >> > as a module author, I would like to know if my dependencies are not >> > dependable. >>

Re: failure installing dependencies

On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Andreas Koenig wrote: > > > as a module user I don't really care why it failed to install - it is as > > unusable to me as any other problem. > > as a module author, I would like to know if my dependencies are not > > dependable. > > This reasoning is correct, the

Re: failure installing dependencies

Shmuel Fomberg writes: > I disagree. A failure to install is a bug. In principle, yes, but... > as a module user I don't really care why it failed to install - it is as > unusable to me as any other problem. > as a module author, I would like to know if my dependencies are not > dependable. Th

Re: failure installing dependencies

- Original Message - From: "David Golden" Frankly, even a new "depfail" grade isn't terribly helpful to end users because the user has no idea if dependencies would fail for them without trying them. B-b-b-b-but as a module *owner*, how do I tell (from the tester reports) whet

Re: failure installing dependencies

> On 9 Nov 2012, at 01:28, Shmuel Fomberg wrote: > And finally, if a module author upload a new version, and this new version > have test failure, I think that it is possible to notify the authors of > modules that depend on it without spamming them, but it is really tricky. That's not particula

Re: failure installing dependencies

David Golden writes: > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Shmuel Fomberg > wrote: >> I disagree. A failure to install is a bug. > > I respect your position I also understand Shmuel's position, ... > , but this has been debated ad nauseum over the years. The general > consensus is that CPAN Teste

Re: failure installing dependencies

On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Shmuel Fomberg wrote: > I disagree. A failure to install is a bug. I respect your position, but this has been debated ad nauseum over the years. The general consensus is that CPAN Testers exists to see if distributions *build* and *test* correctly. Distributions