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At 06:32 PM 04/04/2001 -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
Note that there's NO stipulation about 'if you can't afford an attorney
one will be appointed to you'. Whether you're rich or poor the state is
OBLIGED to provide you an attorney.
Amendment VI
In all criminal
At 08:03 PM 04/03/2001 -0700, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
So, do the participants of this list wish to actually get something done
with regard to securing privacy, or shall we just spin our wheels in
internecine warfare?
Well, we *could* act like good Libertarian party member and
go for the
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote:
What does it take to get
justice in the USA these days?
Just a few hundred thousand dollars, contributed to the currently elected
Czar.
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Jim Choate[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
The last sentence most certainlly DOES say the state must pay for it, and
in ALL criminal cases. That 'compulsory process' clause guarantees it.
Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right
Second Day: Jim Bell trial
The second day of the Jim Bell trial opened up with D.A. London making a
motion to tell the jury that Bell had owned firearms in the past although
he hasn't had any since the 1997 trial. According to London, the fact that
Bell had had a gun in the past was a
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:23:33 -0400, Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 06:28:22PM -0700, Bill Stewart wrote:
(A quick read of Declan's description of one day of the trial sounded
like Bell's counsel was trying to help, perhaps competently, and helping
Bell is
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At 09:11 AM 4/4/01 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tanner then told Leen: "He [Bell] doesn't trust you." Leen: "He has
great personal animosity." Tanner then told Leen that he had responded
Bell well.
Responded [to] Bell well
or
Represented Bell well
??
likely the latter..
Does anyone know why the Cypherpunks archive at
www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/ has been down for over a day now?
If it's just a DNS problem, could someone post a numeric IP.
Thanks.
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On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 12:33:54PM -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote:
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"It's still on the Internet today," London said during the second day
of the trial in federal district court. "He has not retracted it."
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Jim Burnes wrote:
Were it not for a jury, Tanner could simply pronounce him summarily
guilty and be done with it. Not to worry though, its unlikely
Of course, he may "instruct" them to deliver a guilty...
the jury has any concept of their rights.
Rights? Are you
We have to hate our immediate predecessors to get free of their
authority.
D.H. Lawrence
The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Trei, Peter wrote:
Much as I hate dirtying my hands by dipping into our current Choatian
Black Hole, my reading of this is not that they *must* supply you with
an attorney, but rather that the State cannot *deny* you one - if you
show up with a lawyer, they cannot tell
FYI
We have to hate our immediate predecessors to get free of their
authority.
D.H. Lawrence
The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate
My review of Professor Cass Sunstein's book "Republic.Com" appears in:
Slashdot: http://slashdot.org/books/
And in the April Issue of The Ethical Spectacle http://www.spectacle.org/
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95% the first day or two, maybe. By the third day it's up to 98%.
I don't know if Tanner hates Jim -- that seems strong, based on the
evidence I've seen -- but it's more like he doesn't take Bell or his
lawyer seriously at all.
Bell is more interested in making points against the government
I understand that Tanner asked them (I was out of the room at the time)
about whether they heard of FIJA. Nope.
-Declan
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 04:50:03PM -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote:
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Jim Burnes wrote:
Were it not for a jury, Tanner could simply pronounce him
The problem with Choate's argument is that (besides that it's silly),
he gives implied consent to redistribute by posting here. Also, as he claims
to know, CDR is by nature distributed, and each node can set its own
policy. Dont' like it? Don't participate.
-Declan
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
The problem with Choate's argument is that (besides that it's silly),
he gives implied consent to redistribute by posting here. Also, as he claims
to know, CDR is by nature distributed, and each node can set its own
policy. Dont' like it? Don't
Logically, it is only your speech if you can stop "saying" it
at any time. I doubt he could stop his execution by asking nicely.
-Declan
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 07:12:52PM -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
Isn't this McVeigh's 'speech' and 'press', does he want it broadcast? If so
then the state
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Logically, it is only your speech if you can stop "saying" it
at any time. I doubt he could stop his execution by asking nicely.
But he's under coercion. Legitimate or not, that changes the rules of the
game. He's the accussed. He can elect others
At 06:02 PM 4/5/01 -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
I don't do interviews.
I also own the copyright on everything I post to Cypherpunks. If it gets
printed without my permission (and I won't give it) in a newspaper or
other COMMERCIAL venture it is copyright infringement. You're free to post
excerpts.
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, David Honig wrote:
Jim, how do you feel about on-line collections, e.g., the venona and
inet-one.com
archives?
[IMHO they are technically infringing our copyrights, but I personally
think they perform a service ---slightly more for historians than for
spammers.]
I
Amusing. So if I have a cpunx archive, I can't place ads on it?
I welcome your flurry of lawsuits. We already know about your
lawyers on retainer. Perhaps you can forward them come constitutional
amendments.
-Declan
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 09:13:52PM -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
On Thu, 5 Apr
Bah. I would rather argue that the execution is the government's
free speech at work, and it should have the right to say it in
whatever way it wants. :)
-Declan
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 09:45:43PM -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Logically, it is only
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Bah. I would rather argue that the execution is the government's
free speech at work, and it should have the right to say it in
whatever way it wants. :)
'Governments' have no 'rights'. McVeigh isn't 'property'.
Go read the first two paragraphs
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Amusing. So if I have a cpunx archive, I can't place ads on it?
Sure you can. What you can't do is refuse to remove an item by its author.
And if you do make money on it they can sue for recovery of damages.
Like a said, a good test for ones
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On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:41:47PM -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Amusing. So if I have a
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