Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote issue 517

2022-03-29 Thread Zoe Schubert via Crm-sig 
Vielen Dank für die Nachricht!

Ich bin am ersten Werktag nach dem 15.04. wieder erreichbar. Die Nachricht wird 
nicht weitergeleitet.

Mit besten Grüßen
Zoe Schubert

Am 21.03.2022 um 03:29 schrieb Pat Riva via Crm-sig :


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Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote issue 517

2022-03-20 Thread Pat Riva via Crm-sig 
Hi Christian-Emil,

I am very late, but I vote yes for the properties as given in the table (with 
the correction indicated below by Martin).

In the document with the changes resulting for the scope notes, I think P86 is 
supposed to be reflexive, like P89? And P176 should say asymmetric (like P182)?
I also corrected two typos.

Thanks for all your explanations of these distinctions and how we should use 
the terms.

Pat

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From: Crm-sig  on behalf of Christian-Emil Smith 
Ore via Crm-sig 
Sent: March 3, 2022 2:50 PM
To: Martin Doerr ; crm-sig@ics.forth.gr 

Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote issue 517


Corrected, my typo.

Best,

Christian-Emil



From: Crm-sig  on behalf of Martin Doerr via 
Crm-sig 
Sent: 03 March 2022 20:38
To: crm-sig@ics.forth.gr
Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote issue 517

Dear Christian-Emil,

I corrected an error: P173 is "not transitive". Then I vote YES.

Best,

Martin

On 3/3/2022 9:13 PM, Christian-Emil Smith Ore via Crm-sig wrote:

Dear all,

As agreed in the 52nd meeting the background material and the suggested (small) 
changes  were made available for discussion and comments on the sig-list.  The 
dead line 1st March. It has not been much discussion and comments - in fact 
none. The issue should not be controversial. It is time for an e-vote over the  
the full definition text for the 32 properties with suggested changes (msword 
with track changes)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fS7XjApOYimwZnQbmedU3Gk9u3uejETe/edit?usp=sharing=102982314589061437159=true=true<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1fS7XjApOYimwZnQbmedU3Gk9u3uejETe%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing%26ouid%3D102982314589061437159%26rtpof%3Dtrue%26sd%3Dtrue=04%7C01%7Cpat.riva%40concordia.ca%7Cab4b607ac94c49e98a4708d9fd4fb875%7C5569f185d22f4e139850ce5b1abcd2e8%7C0%7C0%7C637819341124972736%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=wPhTvCCi38ROU%2FrhDNlE34WKn46zFK9ENNvuktsTJVQ%3D=0>



Those in favour, vote yes. Those against vote no, and those who want the issue 
discussed at the next sig meeting can vote 'veto'

Kind regards,
Christian-Emil


From: Christian-Emil Smith Ore
Sent: 14 February 2022 09:47
To: crm-sig
Subject: issue 517 comments, discussion until end of February


Dear all,

The issue 517 with the somewhat misleading title "Does the axiom of 
non-reflexivity follow from the definition of transitivity?" boils down to 
checking transitivity, symmetry and reflexivity of the 32 properties in CRMbase 
with identical domain and range. In the meeting last week (52nd) we decided 
that the SIG should have the possibility to study and discuss the suggested 
changes until the end of February. On the bais of the discussion and comments, 
a proposal for changes will be sent out on an e-vote.


The full definition text for the 32 properties with suggested changes (msword 
with track changes)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fS7XjApOYimwZnQbmedU3Gk9u3uejETe/edit?usp=sharing=102982314589061437159=true=true<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1fS7XjApOYimwZnQbmedU3Gk9u3uejETe%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing%26ouid%3D102982314589061437159%26rtpof%3Dtrue%26sd%3Dtrue=04%7C01%7Cpat.riva%40concordia.ca%7Cab4b607ac94c49e98a4708d9fd4fb875%7C5569f185d22f4e139850ce5b1abcd2e8%7C0%7C0%7C637819341124972736%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=wPhTvCCi38ROU%2FrhDNlE34WKn46zFK9ENNvuktsTJVQ%3D=0>

Overview:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xzxk1izWTLSTMs5JZuum77PiF73reNJDQxGyENzZeBQ/edit?usp=sharing<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fspreadsheets%2Fd%2F1Xzxk1izWTLSTMs5JZuum77PiF73reNJDQxGyENzZeBQ%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing=04%7C01%7Cpat.riva%40concordia.ca%7Cab4b607ac94c49e98a4708d9fd4fb875%7C5569f185d22f4e139850ce5b1abcd2e8%7C0%7C0%7C637819341124972736%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000=%2FSRchcNJFtMlxlYq3v2qR7Oh3xTBBlHWfL0g5OH0V0w%3D=0>

MD & CEO comments and discussion:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11E1PPNij7R8MueZLEGjB5a4RM6dolG-K/edit?usp=sharing=102982314589061437159=true=true<https://can01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F11E1PPNij7R8MueZLEGjB5a4RM6dolG-K%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing%26ouid%3D102982314589061437159%26rtpof%3Dtrue%26sd%3Dtrue=04%7C01%7Cpat.riva%40concordia.ca%7Cab4b607ac94c49e98a4708d9fd4fb875%7C5569f185d22f4e139850ce5b1a

Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote issue 517

2022-03-08 Thread Øyvind Eide via Crm-sig 
YES

Øyvind

> Am 03.03.2022 um 20:50 schrieb Christian-Emil Smith Ore via Crm-sig 
> :
> 
> Corrected, my typo. 
> Best,
> Christian-Emil
> 
> 
> From: Crm-sig  on behalf of Martin Doerr via 
> Crm-sig 
> Sent: 03 March 2022 20:38
> To: crm-sig@ics.forth.gr
> Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote issue 517
>  
> Dear Christian-Emil,
> 
> I corrected an error: P173 is "not transitive". Then I vote YES.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Martin
> 
> On 3/3/2022 9:13 PM, Christian-Emil Smith Ore via Crm-sig wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> As agreed in the 52nd meeting the background material and the suggested 
>> (small) changes  were made available for discussion and comments on the 
>> sig-list.  The dead line 1st March. It has not been much discussion and 
>> comments - in fact none. The issue should not be controversial. It is time 
>> for an e-vote over the  the full definition text for the 32 properties with 
>> suggested changes (msword with track changes)
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fS7XjApOYimwZnQbmedU3Gk9u3uejETe/edit?usp=sharing=102982314589061437159=true=true
>>  
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fS7XjApOYimwZnQbmedU3Gk9u3uejETe/edit?usp=sharing=102982314589061437159=true=true>
>>  
>> Those in favour, vote yes. Those against vote no, and those who want the 
>> issue discussed at the next sig meeting can vote 'veto'
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Christian-Emil
>> 
>> From: Christian-Emil Smith Ore
>> Sent: 14 February 2022 09:47
>> To: crm-sig
>> Subject: issue 517 comments, discussion until end of February
>>  
>> Dear all,
>> The issue 517 with the somewhat misleading title "Does the axiom of 
>> non-reflexivity follow from the definition of transitivity?" boils down to 
>> checking transitivity, symmetry and reflexivity of the 32 properties in 
>> CRMbase with identical domain and range. In the meeting last week (52nd) we 
>> decided that the SIG should have the possibility to study and discuss the 
>> suggested changes until the end of February. On the bais of the discussion 
>> and comments, a proposal for changes will be sent out on an e-vote.
>> 
>> The full definition text for the 32 properties with suggested changes 
>> (msword with track changes)
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fS7XjApOYimwZnQbmedU3Gk9u3uejETe/edit?usp=sharing=102982314589061437159=true=true
>>  
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fS7XjApOYimwZnQbmedU3Gk9u3uejETe/edit?usp=sharing=102982314589061437159=true=true>
>> Overview:
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xzxk1izWTLSTMs5JZuum77PiF73reNJDQxGyENzZeBQ/edit?usp=sharing
>>  
>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xzxk1izWTLSTMs5JZuum77PiF73reNJDQxGyENzZeBQ/edit?usp=sharing>
>> MD & CEO comments and discussion:
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/11E1PPNij7R8MueZLEGjB5a4RM6dolG-K/edit?usp=sharing=102982314589061437159=true=true
>>  
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/11E1PPNij7R8MueZLEGjB5a4RM6dolG-K/edit?usp=sharing=102982314589061437159=true=true>
>> 
>> Best,
>> Christian-Emil
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote issue 517

2022-03-03 Thread Hiebel, Gerald via Crm-sig 
YES

From: Crm-sig  on behalf of Christian-Emil Smith 
Ore via Crm-sig 
Reply to: Christian-Emil Smith Ore 
Date: Thursday, 3. March 2022 at 20:24
To: crm-sig 
Subject: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote issue 517


Dear all,

As agreed in the 52nd meeting the background material and the suggested (small) 
changes  were made available for discussion and comments on the sig-list.  The 
dead line 1st March. It has not been much discussion and comments - in fact 
none. The issue should not be controversial. It is time for an e-vote over the  
the full definition text for the 32 properties with suggested changes (msword 
with track changes)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fS7XjApOYimwZnQbmedU3Gk9u3uejETe/edit?usp=sharing=102982314589061437159=true=true


Those in favour, vote yes. Those against vote no, and those who want the issue 
discussed at the next sig meeting can vote 'veto'

Kind regards,
Christian-Emil

From: Christian-Emil Smith Ore
Sent: 14 February 2022 09:47
To: crm-sig
Subject: issue 517 comments, discussion until end of February


Dear all,

The issue 517 with the somewhat misleading title "Does the axiom of 
non-reflexivity follow from the definition of transitivity?" boils down to 
checking transitivity, symmetry and reflexivity of the 32 properties in CRMbase 
with identical domain and range. In the meeting last week (52nd) we decided 
that the SIG should have the possibility to study and discuss the suggested 
changes until the end of February. On the bais of the discussion and comments, 
a proposal for changes will be sent out on an e-vote.



The full definition text for the 32 properties with suggested changes (msword 
with track changes)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fS7XjApOYimwZnQbmedU3Gk9u3uejETe/edit?usp=sharing=102982314589061437159=true=true

Overview:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xzxk1izWTLSTMs5JZuum77PiF73reNJDQxGyENzZeBQ/edit?usp=sharing

MD & CEO comments and discussion:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11E1PPNij7R8MueZLEGjB5a4RM6dolG-K/edit?usp=sharing=102982314589061437159=true=true



Best,

Christian-Emil


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Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote issue 517

2022-03-03 Thread Christian-Emil Smith Ore via Crm-sig 
Corrected, my typo.

Best,

Christian-Emil



From: Crm-sig  on behalf of Martin Doerr via 
Crm-sig 
Sent: 03 March 2022 20:38
To: crm-sig@ics.forth.gr
Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote issue 517

Dear Christian-Emil,

I corrected an error: P173 is "not transitive". Then I vote YES.

Best,

Martin

On 3/3/2022 9:13 PM, Christian-Emil Smith Ore via Crm-sig wrote:

Dear all,

As agreed in the 52nd meeting the background material and the suggested (small) 
changes  were made available for discussion and comments on the sig-list.  The 
dead line 1st March. It has not been much discussion and comments - in fact 
none. The issue should not be controversial. It is time for an e-vote over the  
the full definition text for the 32 properties with suggested changes (msword 
with track changes)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fS7XjApOYimwZnQbmedU3Gk9u3uejETe/edit?usp=sharing=102982314589061437159=true=true



Those in favour, vote yes. Those against vote no, and those who want the issue 
discussed at the next sig meeting can vote 'veto'

Kind regards,
Christian-Emil


From: Christian-Emil Smith Ore
Sent: 14 February 2022 09:47
To: crm-sig
Subject: issue 517 comments, discussion until end of February


Dear all,

The issue 517 with the somewhat misleading title "Does the axiom of 
non-reflexivity follow from the definition of transitivity?" boils down to 
checking transitivity, symmetry and reflexivity of the 32 properties in CRMbase 
with identical domain and range. In the meeting last week (52nd) we decided 
that the SIG should have the possibility to study and discuss the suggested 
changes until the end of February. On the bais of the discussion and comments, 
a proposal for changes will be sent out on an e-vote.


The full definition text for the 32 properties with suggested changes (msword 
with track changes)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fS7XjApOYimwZnQbmedU3Gk9u3uejETe/edit?usp=sharing=102982314589061437159=true=true

Overview:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xzxk1izWTLSTMs5JZuum77PiF73reNJDQxGyENzZeBQ/edit?usp=sharing

MD & CEO comments and discussion:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11E1PPNij7R8MueZLEGjB5a4RM6dolG-K/edit?usp=sharing=102982314589061437159=true=true


Best,

Christian-Emil




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Re: [Crm-sig] Call for e-vote issue 517

2022-03-03 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig 

Dear Christian-Emil,

I corrected an error: P173 is "not transitive". Then I vote YES.

Best,

Martin

On 3/3/2022 9:13 PM, Christian-Emil Smith Ore via Crm-sig wrote:


Dear all,

As agreed in the 52nd meeting the background material and the 
suggested (small) changes  were made available for discussion and 
comments on the sig-list.  The dead line 1st March. It has not been 
much discussion and comments - in fact none. The issue should not be 
controversial. It is time for an e-vote over the  the full definition 
text for the 32 properties with suggested changes (msword with track 
changes)


https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fS7XjApOYimwZnQbmedU3Gk9u3uejETe/edit?usp=sharing=102982314589061437159=true=true 



Those in favour, vote yes. Those against vote no, and those who want 
the issue discussed at the next sig meeting can vote 'veto'


Kind regards,
Christian-Emil


*From:* Christian-Emil Smith Ore
*Sent:* 14 February 2022 09:47
*To:* crm-sig
*Subject:* issue 517 comments, discussion until end of February

Dear all,

The issue 517 with the somewhat misleading title "Does the axiom of 
non-reflexivity follow from the definition of transitivity?" boils 
down to checking transitivity, symmetry and reflexivity of the 32 
properties in CRMbase with identical domain and range. In the meeting 
last week (52nd) we decidedthat the SIG should have the possibility to 
study and discuss the suggested changes until the end of February. On 
the bais of the discussion and comments, a proposal for changes will 
be sent out on an e-vote.



The full definition text for the 32 properties with suggested changes 
(msword with track changes)


https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fS7XjApOYimwZnQbmedU3Gk9u3uejETe/edit?usp=sharing=102982314589061437159=true=true 



Overview:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Xzxk1izWTLSTMs5JZuum77PiF73reNJDQxGyENzZeBQ/edit?usp=sharing 



MD & CEO comments and discussion:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11E1PPNij7R8MueZLEGjB5a4RM6dolG-K/edit?usp=sharing=102982314589061437159=true=true 




Best,

Christian-Emil



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