Actually, I think it is awesome feedback, since there are only a handful
of issues that seem to raise the anger levels.
I was able to trace a few of the top items to some old bugs:
File out of sync:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=228039
Line numbers on by default:
It is. And I'm sure there are hate sites for every tool people use. Eclipse
isn't unique that way.
My point is that user experience is so important to our success, we need to be
sensitive to the issues our users are facing. There are a lot of such issues
marked WONTFIX, and CDT is as guilty of
Hi
Get a committer from a related but independent project to review the
Bugzilla discussion to form a less prejudiced on view on whether the
WONTFIX is justified.
Regards
Ed Willink
On 12/07/2013 17:25, Doug Schaefer
wrote:
I'm sure your powers that be will tell you we've all been trying that for
years. Eclipse doesn't suck enough for that to work, which is a good thing in a
way. That's why I hope we can aim at the grassroots people, individual users,
who have the skills to help.
Doug.
From: Denis Roy
How is this going to help? In most/all cases bugs are not fixed because
nobody comes forward with quality fixes. Weather somebody says it needs
to be fixed does not matter unless his/her words are backed up by the
code.
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Regards,
Igor
On 2013-07-12 11:50 PM, Ed Willink wrote:
Hi
Get a
Igor,
I think it's even stronger than that. In the end, WONTFIX shouldn't
mean I don't have time or I don't feel like it but rather it's
working as designed and changing it isn't what I believe is
appropriate. As such, even if someone provided a fix, that's not
what's desired. Committers
Just to clarify on terminology I used/implied. WONTFIX is a real
problem which won't be fixed for lack of interest and/or resources.
INVALID when the system works as designed.
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Regards,
Igor
On 2013-07-13 12:57 AM, Ed Merks wrote:
Igor,
I think it's even stronger than that. In the end,
that sounds like something that should be cleaned up a la CLOSED/RESOLVED
reminds me of stackoverflow's recent close changes
http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2013/06/the-war-of-the-closes/?cb=1
jesse
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jesse mcconnell
jesse.mcconn...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Igor Fedorenko
Hi
That's exactly what I mean by 'less prejudiced'.
The project committers can always produce a long list of reasons for
WONTFIX, often including time/money.
The users can produce a long list of WIBNIFs.
If an independent view considers the benefits are genuine and outweigh
the problems,
Igor,
So there's even a problem with terminology! Here are two recent
examples of what I consider WONTFIX:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=410587
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=411437
In both cases I don't doubt there is a problem, so I don't consider it
On 07/12/2013 02:59 PM, David M Williams wrote:
Denis, you said ... (including the Bugzilla UI) is starting to suck,
and I've already begun selling the idea to the powers that be.
Can you say more? Are you thinking of replacing bugzilla? Or just
customizing its UI? ... and possibly fields?
I
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