Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Disabling Mylyn from SimRel + Removing related Orbit workarounds

While I hate to see Eclipse Mylyn removed from the packages and from the simultaneous release repository, I do greatly appreciate the efforts of all involved. Thank you for performing this important work. Wayne On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 7:45 PM Jonah Graham wrote: > On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 at 08:56, P

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Disabling Mylyn from SimRel + Removing related Orbit workarounds

On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 at 08:56, Pierre-Charles David < pierre-charles.da...@obeo.fr> wrote: > Le 30/03/2022 à 02:53, Jonah Graham a écrit : > > Hi folks, > > > > I have submitted the removal of Mylyn from SimRel[1] along with > > removing the direct contribution of Orbit to SimRel[2] that had been >

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Disabling Mylyn from SimRel + Removing related Orbit workarounds

Le 30/03/2022 à 02:53, Jonah Graham a écrit : Hi folks, I have submitted the removal of Mylyn from SimRel[1] along with removing the direct contribution of Orbit to SimRel[2] that had been put in place to workaround Mylyn's issues. There were still a couple of projects that had since come de

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Disabling Mylyn from SimRel + Removing related Orbit workarounds

Hi folks, I have submitted the removal of Mylyn from SimRel[1] along with removing the direct contribution of Orbit to SimRel[2] that had been put in place to workaround Mylyn's issues. There were still a couple of projects that had since come dependent on Orbit contributing to SimRel. I worked a

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Disabling Mylyn from SimRel + Removing related Orbit workarounds

Hi folks, At the recent Planning Council meeting we discussed this item[1] and have come to the conclusion that enough time has passed to allow these problems[2] to be resolved. As they haven't been resolved a reminder, the plan is that at the beginning of the 2022-06 release cycle (in time for M1

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Disabling Mylyn from SimRel + Removing related Orbit workarounds

On Sunday, January 16, 2022, Lorenzo Bettini wrote: > So the limitations (not failing because of missing dependencies) of Tycho mirror are real (I seem to understand they come from the eclipse mirror application on which it's built). Yes. -- Mickael Istria Eclipse IDE

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Disabling Mylyn from SimRel + Removing related Orbit workarounds

Ok, thanks! So the limitations (not failing because of missing dependencies) of Tycho mirror are real (I seem to understand they come from the eclipse mirror application on which it's built). Il Sab 15 Gen 2022, 20:03 Mickael Istria ha scritto: > > > On Saturday, January 15, 2022, Lorenzo Bettin

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Disabling Mylyn from SimRel + Removing related Orbit workarounds

On Saturday, January 15, 2022, Lorenzo Bettini wrote: > Mickael, IIRC your proposal was based on Tycho mirror goal Nope, except for exceptions. See https://git.eclipse.org/r/c/simrel/org.eclipse.simrel.build/+/170553/14/pom.xml -- Mickael Istria Eclipse IDE

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Disabling Mylyn from SimRel + Removing related Orbit workarounds

Mickael, IIRC your proposal was based on Tycho mirror goal, but that does not fail if dependencies of mirrored artifacts cannot be found (it just issues a warning) while the aggregator fails if that happens. I'm asking also because I was migrating my mirrors myself but I experienced such a limitati

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Disabling Mylyn from SimRel + Removing related Orbit workarounds

Ed, Comments below. On 15.01.2022 10:00, Ed Willink wrote: Over the years, it was my impression that the need to redistribute LPG was precisely because Orbit was not (transitively) available when performing an Install New Software... from SimRel. I think you are misunderstanding how things

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Disabling Mylyn from SimRel + Removing related Orbit workarounds

On 14/01/2022 09:08, Ed Merks wrote: So *how* do you ensure that the necessary/important/right things are in your own repository?  Certainly includeAllDependencies is the big hammer, but do you really want users to install some snapshot of all your dependencies?  It seems doubtful.  The obvious

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Disabling Mylyn from SimRel + Removing related Orbit workarounds

I have heard from a number of projects, both on this list and elsewhere that they are making the updates. I have not submitted these changes today and propose that I do them at the beginning of the 2022-06 release cycle (mid-March). At that time I will recheck to make sure I am not disabling anythi

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Disabling Mylyn from SimRel + Removing related Orbit workarounds

Hi Alexander, Sorry that you got caught in the crossfire on this change - the realization that Passage was depending (unintentionally) on a workaround I put in last year for Mylyn made me revisit to see if the cost of fixing Mylyn this way was having unintended consequences. After a year instead o

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Disabling Mylyn from SimRel + Removing related Orbit workarounds

Mickael, You quote out of context where "Tycho being used" is in reference to the build of a project's p2 site not with reference to how the aggregation itself is implemented. I think it would be awfully nice if there were less finger pointing and less pessimism shared quite so freely.   Of

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Disabling Mylyn from SimRel + Removing related Orbit workarounds

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 9:50 AM Christoph Läubrich wrote: > If Tycho is used > I tried for a long time to migrate SimRel from p2 aggregator (which is a technology very few are capable of using, much fewer are capable of maintaining, and much even fewer -if any- is willing to maintain) to Tycho a

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Disabling Mylyn from SimRel + Removing related Orbit workarounds

You can also include bundles in your category.xml no need for a feature. I just wonder if not Orbit itself should contribute its latest release to simrel and thus participate in sim-rel process directly. That would mean I never need to add Orbit directly but can only depend on what is at the

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Disabling Mylyn from SimRel + Removing related Orbit workarounds

If Tycho is used it is probably the easiest to enable https://www.eclipse.org/tycho/sitedocs/tycho-p2/tycho-p2-repository-plugin/assemble-repository-mojo.html#includeAllDependencies to get the best user experience and fulfill this requirement without any additional actions. Am 14.01.22 um 08:

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Disabling Mylyn from SimRel + Removing related Orbit workarounds

Hi Jonah, Since Passage was never depending from Mylyn it was surprising to see it disabled. As I understood, it was done because Passage does not mirror all the used Orbit bundles to its p2 site. Please don't get me wrong, but the gap between notification [1] and action seems a bit tight to m

[cross-project-issues-dev] Disabling Mylyn from SimRel + Removing related Orbit workarounds

On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 at 08:47, Jonah Graham wrote: > On Thu., Jan. 13, 2022, 08:18 Aleksandar Kurtakov, > wrote: > >> I would dare to say that as long as the workarounds are in simrel nothing >> will get fixed - it's time to face reality. >> > Probably correct, but I don't have the nerve to disab