Re: [crossfire] Importing the GTK+ editor in SVN

2008-07-21 Thread Nicolas Weeger
But so far, all the objections have been from developers involved with Gridarta and saying basically don't work on a new editor. Please, get your facts straight :) Yann didn't work on Gridarta unless I'm mistaken, and I definitely didn't (unless using it or making feature requests makes us

Re: [crossfire] Importing the GTK+ editor in SVN

2008-07-20 Thread Lauwenmark
Le Saturday 19 July 2008 21:57:35 Raphaël Quinet, vous avez écrit : Slightly, yes. :-) I don't think that it is necessary for me to reply to each sentence in detail. I will just say this: do you realize that what you have written can be summarized as I have worked on solution X and it

Re: [crossfire] Importing the GTK+ editor in SVN

2008-07-20 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:14:52 +0200, Lauwenmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le Saturday 19 July 2008 21:57:35 Raphaël Quinet, vous avez écrit : using crossfire SVN, then again the same reasoning would have prevented jxclient from being included. Why include jxclient which had less features

Re: [crossfire] Importing the GTK+ editor in SVN

2008-07-19 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:03:33 +0200, Andreas Kirschbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am one of the founders of Gridarta and I still maintain the editor. So expect my viewpoint to be slightly biased ;) Slightly, yes. :-) I don't think that it is necessary for me to reply to each sentence

Re: [crossfire] Importing the GTK+ editor in SVN

2008-07-18 Thread Andreas Kirschbaum
Hi, I am one of the founders of Gridarta and I still maintain the editor. So expect my viewpoint to be slightly biased ;) I already mentioned on IRC some of the reasons why I think that this editor [gce] is interesting: it is fast (e.g., drawing walls or other features on a large map is much

Re: [crossfire] Importing the GTK+ editor in SVN

2008-07-17 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:40:32 -0500, Rick Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple of questions: At what state of completion(?) is a user HOWTO manual for the map editor? As I said in a previous message, the current code is not very friendly to first-time users. Although there is a tutorial

Re: [crossfire] Importing the GTK+ editor in SVN

2008-07-17 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:01:07 -0700, Mark Wedel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no issues with it being added to part of SVN. Thanks! [...] - With that above note, it means that all that crossfire can really limit is if it is in SVN or not. Raphael can continue to work on it in either

Re: [crossfire] Importing the GTK+ editor in SVN

2008-07-17 Thread Nicolas Weeger
*sigh* if only the list could be so lively for content-related stuff... I globally agree with Yann. Also this is code no one here knows, it'll take a while to get into it, bla bla, but you do what you want with your time :) *goes back to his hole* -- http://nicolas.weeger.org [Petit site

Re: [crossfire] Importing the GTK+ editor in SVN

2008-07-16 Thread ERACC Subscriptions
On Wednesday 16 July 2008 Raphaël Quinet wrote: [...] I already mentioned on IRC some of the reasons why I think that this editor is interesting: it is fast (e.g., drawing walls or other features on a large map is much faster than with gridarta), it has a nice way to display the properties of

Re: [crossfire] Importing the GTK+ editor in SVN

2008-07-16 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:12:15 +0200, Yann Chachkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it is fast (e.g., drawing walls or other features on a large map is much faster than with gridarta) Wouldn't it be more productive to work on improving Gridarta's speed where it is perceived as an issue, instead

Re: [crossfire] Importing the GTK+ editor in SVN

2008-07-16 Thread Alex Schultz
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:53:42 +0200 Raphaël Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it has less installation dependencies than gridarta, Wrong. It depends on GTK and Perl. Gridarta depends on 1.6 JRE. I don't see how it would in any way imply less dependencies. Sorry, I should have said it

Re: [crossfire] Importing the GTK+ editor in SVN

2008-07-16 Thread Rick Tanner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A couple of questions: At what state of completion(?) is a user HOWTO manual for the map editor? I think an install HOWTO is probably the most critical, then followed by ~ a user manual (which is very important as well.) What about official

Re: [crossfire] Importing the GTK+ editor in SVN

2008-07-16 Thread Mark Wedel
I have no issues with it being added to part of SVN. I won't go over the different points raised in the conversation, but just some quick thoughts: - Within crossfire, there has never really been any standard set of programs that must be supported. So just the fact it gets added to SVN

Re: [crossfire] Importing the GTK+ editor in SVN

2008-07-16 Thread Kevin R. Bulgrien
Hi, I would like to contribute several improvements to the GTK+ editor gcrossedit (a.k.a. gce, now gde). Whereas the issue of having parallel clients is to me not a problem, there seems some greater advantage to have a unified editor, but, so long as both are maintained at a high degree of