Re: Comcast@Home bans VPNs

2000-08-27 Thread Damien Miller
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Phil Karn wrote: I've been saying for some time that we need a IP-over-SSL tunneling protocol standard. ISPs would *never* dare block TCP port 443, since as we all know the only important Internet application is to let people buy stuff online... You can do this using

Re: Comcast@Home bans VPNs

2000-08-26 Thread Bram Cohen
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Phil Karn wrote: I've been saying for some time that we need a IP-over-SSL tunneling protocol standard. ISPs would *never* dare block TCP port 443, since as we all know the only important Internet application is to let people buy stuff online... You can tunnel PPP over

Re: Comcast@Home bans VPNs

2000-08-24 Thread Phil Karn
Is making an SSL connection creating a VPN? It's really not much different in an abstract sense. Most applications are using browsers I've been saying for some time that we need a IP-over-SSL tunneling protocol standard. ISPs would *never* dare block TCP port 443, since as we all know the only

Re: Comcast@Home bans VPNs

2000-08-21 Thread Dennis Glatting
Has comcast defined a VPN (i.e., IPsec, SSH, etc.)?

Re: Comcast@Home bans VPNs

2000-08-21 Thread Peter Wayner
Is making an SSL connection creating a VPN? It's really not much different in an abstract sense. Most applications are using browsers as interfaces anyway. So I think this will only encourage businesses to set up SSL server/client models instead of general VPNs. -Peter --

Re: Comcast@Home bans VPNs

2000-08-20 Thread Ben Laurie
Russell Nelson wrote: Ian Brown writes: ... subscribers to agree not to use the service as a means to create a VPN. Could someone describe to me (in my ignorance) the problem this rule is intended to solve? Loss of revenue from leased lines. BT did a number of interesting things during

Re: Comcast@Home bans VPNs

2000-08-20 Thread James A. Donald
-- Ian Brown writes: ... subscribers to agree not to use the service as a means to create a VPN. At 10:52 PM 8/19/2000 -0400, Russell Nelson wrote: Could someone describe to me (in my ignorance) the problem this rule is intended to solve? Sounds like a market differentiation

Re: Comcast@Home bans VPNs

2000-08-19 Thread Russell Nelson
Ian Brown writes: ... subscribers to agree not to use the service as a means to create a VPN. Could someone describe to me (in my ignorance) the problem this rule is intended to solve? -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com | If you think Crynwr sells support for free

Comcast@Home bans VPNs

2000-08-17 Thread Ian Brown
Customers blast Comcast move to foil bandwidth hogs By Corey Grice Staff Writer, CNET News.com August 16, 2000, 12:00 p.m. PT Revisions made to a Comcast Online customer agreement document have irked some high-speed cable-modem customers concerned about a prohibition on the use of secure