Re: Free Rootkit with Every New Intel Machine

2007-06-25 Thread David G. Koontz
Peter Gutmann wrote: Ian Farquhar (ifarquha) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For example: the Gigabyte GA-965QM-DS2 (rev 2.0) which features security enhancement by TPM. More common (ASUS, Foxconn) was the TPM Connector, which seemed to be a hedged bet, by replacing the cost of the TPM chip with

Re: Free Rootkit with Every New Intel Machine

2007-06-25 Thread Peter Gutmann
David G. Koontz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are third party TPM modules, which could allow some degree of standardization: As I said in my previous message, just because they exist doesn't mean they'll do anything if you plug them into a MB with the necessary header (assuming you have a MB

RE: Free Rootkit with Every New Intel Machine

2007-06-25 Thread Leichter, Jerry
| ...Apple is one vendor who I gather does include a TPM chip on their | systems, I gather, but that wasn't useful for me. Apple included TPM chips on their first round of Intel-based Macs. Back in 2005, there were all sorts of stories floating around the net about how Apple would use TPM to

Herbert Yardley trivia

2007-06-25 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
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fyi: SHA-2 patent status

2007-06-25 Thread Jeff . Hodges
of possible interest... Original Message Subject: [saag] SHA-2 patent status Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:55:46 -0700 From: Paul Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of possible interest (but hopefully no concern) to this list: a new IPR statement from the NSA to the

Financial Cryptography CFP

2007-06-25 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Forwarded: From: Radu Sion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CFP: Financial Cryptography and Data Security 2008 [deadline: September 25] Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:07:37 -0400 Reply-To: Radu Sion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Colleague, This is an advanced call for papers for the Financial Cryptography

Re: Free Rootkit with Every New Intel Machine

2007-06-25 Thread Hal Finney
David G. Koontz writes: There are third party TPM modules, which could allow some degree of standardization: http://www.ieiworld.com/en/news_content.asp?id=erbium/projectOBJ00244201news_cate=Newsnews_sub_cate=Product The IEI TPM module is used in their own motherboards and some VIA

Re: Why self describing data formats:

2007-06-25 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 20:59:55 +1000 James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many protocols use some form of self describing data format, for example ASN.1, XML, S expressions, and bencoding. Why? Presumably both ends of the conversation have negotiated what protocol version they are

RE: Free Rootkit with Every New Intel Machine

2007-06-25 Thread Ian Farquhar \(ifarquha\)
It seems odd for the TPM of all devices to be put on a pluggable module as shown here. The whole point of the chip is to be bound tightly to the motherboard and to observe the boot and initial program load sequence. Maybe I am showing my eternal optimist side here, but to me, this is how

Re: Free Rootkit with Every New Intel Machine

2007-06-25 Thread Matt Johnston
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 04:42:56PM +1200, David G. Koontz wrote: Apple (mis)uses TPM to unsuccessfully prevent OS X from running on non-Apple Hardware. All Apple on Intel machines have TPM, that's what 6 percent of new PCs? To nit pick, the TPM is only present in some Apple Intel machines