Re: NSA Suite B Cryptography

2005-10-17 Thread Alexander Klimov
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Sidney Markowitz wrote: > Does this prevent free software interoperability with Suite B standards? > It potentially could be used to block non-US vendors, certainly anyone > who is in the US Government's disfavor, but it seems to me that even > with no further intentional actio

Re: NSA Suite B Cryptography

2005-10-15 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sidney Markowitz writes: > >The possible twist that I see is if the NSA declares that any freely >available open source software that interoperates with Suite B is by >definition "in support of US national security interests" and therefore >automatically gets one of

Re: NSA Suite B Cryptography

2005-10-15 Thread Sidney Markowitz
Joseph Ashwood wrote: > U, no. The NSA only licensed the right to use (and sublicense under > special circumstances) the patents [...] > [snip the rest, it was based on a failed assumption] Poor phrasing on my part. Exactly as you said, the patent sublicense cannot be passed on even if the co

Re: NSA Suite B Cryptography

2005-10-14 Thread Joseph Ashwood
- Original Message - From: "Sidney Markowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: NSA Suite B Cryptography Ian G wrote: Which is to say, NSA solved its problem and it is nothing to do with FOSS. If you wrote a Suite B program and distributed it under a BSD license aft

Re: NSA Suite B Cryptography

2005-10-14 Thread Sidney Markowitz
Ian G wrote: > Which is to say, NSA solved its problem and it > is nothing to do with FOSS. If you wrote a Suite B program and distributed it under a BSD license after getting a sub-license for the patent from the NSA, presumably I could take that code, modify it, and then in order to use or distr

Re: NSA Suite B Cryptography

2005-10-14 Thread Sidney Markowitz
Ben Laurie wrote: > Incidentally, why the focus on GPL? Because the NSA's assurances that their license would cover open source software is probably good enough to allow you to write and contribute code to a non-GPL open source project if they do not have specific rules against accepting patent-en

Re: NSA Suite B Cryptography

2005-10-14 Thread Alexander Klimov
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > Precisely. NSA's actions here are independent of whether or not they > like open source software on other criteria. They've determined that > ECC presents a better cost-benefit tradeoff. We all understand, I > think, why they're not enamored with

Re: NSA Suite B Cryptography

2005-10-14 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ian G writes: > >Which is to say, NSA solved its problem and it >is nothing to do with FOSS. > Precisely. NSA's actions here are independent of whether or not they like open source software on other criteria. They've determined that ECC presents a better cost-b

Re: NSA Suite B Cryptography

2005-10-14 Thread Ian G
Sidney Markowitz wrote: Excerpt from "Fact Sheet on NSA Suite B Cryptography" http://www.nsa.gov/ia/industry/crypto_suite_b.cfm "NSA has determined that beyond the 1024-bit public key cryptography in common use today, rather than increase key sizes beyond 1024-bits, a swi

Re: NSA Suite B Cryptography

2005-10-14 Thread Ben Laurie
Sidney Markowitz wrote: Excerpt from "Fact Sheet on NSA Suite B Cryptography" http://www.nsa.gov/ia/industry/crypto_suite_b.cfm "NSA has determined that beyond the 1024-bit public key cryptography in common use today, rather than increase key sizes beyond 1024-bits, a swi

Re: NSA Suite B Cryptography

2005-10-14 Thread Sidney Markowitz
Excerpt from > "Fact Sheet on NSA Suite B Cryptography" > http://www.nsa.gov/ia/industry/crypto_suite_b.cfm "NSA has determined that beyond the 1024-bit public key cryptography in common use today, rather than increase key sizes beyond 1024-bits, a switch to elliptic curve te

NSA Suite B Cryptography

2005-10-13 Thread Perry E. Metzger
"Fact Sheet on NSA Suite B Cryptography" http://www.nsa.gov/ia/industry/crypto_suite_b.cfm Perry - The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]