Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-11-01 Thread Hagai Bar-El
Hello, On 30/10/2007 17:13, Ali, Saqib wrote: > Windows have had FDE (with pre-boot) solutions for a long while. Here > is a list: http://www.full-disk-encryption.net/Full_Disc_Encryption.html IIRC, none of the products on this list is open source. Hagai. --

Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-11-01 Thread Ali, Saqib
> Right -- I was unaware that Windows actually had any real (pre-boot) > FDE solutions before about the time of BitLocker. But I only > peripherally have any idea about Windows crypto solutions, so I > wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong. Cheers, Windows have had FDE (with pre-boot) solutions for a

Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-11-01 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Oct 30, 2007, at 5:12 AM, Hagai Bar-El wrote: A great product, but not an FDE one. Right -- I was unaware that Windows actually had any real (pre-boot) FDE solutions before about the time of BitLocker. But I only peripherally have any idea about Windows crypto solutions, so I wouldn't

Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-11-01 Thread Hagai Bar-El
Hello, On 30/10/2007 07:37, Ivan Krsti? wrote: > On Oct 29, 2007, at 3:56 PM, Hagai Bar-El wrote: >> Are there at all any open source FDE products for Win32? > > http://www.truecrypt.org/ A great product, but not an FDE one. It encrypts contents of logical drives into container files. You

Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-11-01 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Oct 29, 2007, at 3:56 PM, Hagai Bar-El wrote: Are there at all any open source FDE products for Win32? http://www.truecrypt.org/ -- Ivan Krstić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | http://radian.org - The Cryptography Mailing List Uns

Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-10-29 Thread Ali, Saqib
> > Out of curiousity, are any open source FDE products being evaluated? > Are there at all any open source FDE products for Win32? Not that I know off. But with Full Disk Encryption now being embedded into the hardware (Seagate FDE Momentus and Danberry), it doesn't make much sense to start a ope

Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-10-29 Thread Hagai Bar-El
Hello On 08/10/07 13:27, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:57:36 -0700 "Ali, Saqib" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> US Government has select 9 security vendors that will product drive >> and file level encryption software. >> >> See: >> http://security-basics.blogspot.com/20

Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-10-10 Thread Ali, Saqib
> Out of curiousity, Vista (BitLocker) was not mentioned? BitLocker lacks centralized management, and has very limited key recovery capability. Also it is limited to Vista Business or Ultimate Edition. BitLocker, if you are not using a external USB device to store the key, falls back to volume le

Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-10-10 Thread james hughes
On Oct 8, 2007, at 4:27 AM, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:57:36 -0700 "Ali, Saqib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: US Government has select 9 security vendors that will product drive and file level encryption software. See: http://security-basics.blogspot.com/2007/06/fde-fde-so

Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-10-10 Thread Peter Gutmann
Stephan Somogyi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >FIPS 140(-2) is about validating cryptographic implementations. It is not >about certifying entire products that contain ample functionality well >outside the scope of cryptographic evaluation. That's more of a Common >Criteria thing. Not necessarily.

Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-10-10 Thread Leichter, Jerry
| A slightly off-topic question: if we accept that current processes | (FIPS-140, CC, etc) are inadequate indicators of quality for OSS | products, is there something that can be done about it? Is there a | reasonable criteria / process that can be built that is more suitable? Well, if you believ

Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-10-10 Thread lists
On 8 Oct 2007 10:12:58 -0700, Stephan Somogyi wrote: > At 02:11 +1300 09.10.2007, Peter Gutmann wrote: > >> But if you build a FDE product with it you've got to get the entire product >> certified, not just the crypto component. > > I don't believe this to be the case. > > FIPS 140(-2) is about

Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-10-08 Thread Ian G
Peter Gutmann wrote: Ben Laurie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Peter Gutmann wrote: Given that it's for USG use, I imagine the FIPS 140 entry barrier for the government gravy train would be fairly effective in keeping any OSS products out. ? OpenSSL has FIPS 140. But if you build a FDE produc

Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-10-08 Thread Arshad Noor
t: Monday, October 8, 2007 11:52:28 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles Subject: Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use Arshad, Some of the solutions already include a KMS. One of the key requirements of this particular RFP was "Transparency". Can you please elab

Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-10-08 Thread Ali, Saqib
Arshad, Some of the solutions already include a KMS. One of the key requirements of this particular RFP was "Transparency". Can you please elaborate more on how StrongKey KMS would have improved on transparency? Thanks saqib http://security-basics.blogspot.com/ On 10/8/07, Arshad Noor <[EMAIL

Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-10-08 Thread Stephan Somogyi
At 02:11 +1300 09.10.2007, Peter Gutmann wrote: But if you build a FDE product with it you've got to get the entire product certified, not just the crypto component. I don't believe this to be the case. FIPS 140(-2) is about validating cryptographic implementations. It is not about certifyin

Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-10-08 Thread Arshad Noor
We submitted a letter to the Program Manager, that while they RFP was asking for an FDE solution, they really needed to focus on Key Management across the agency, rather than the actual encryption solution itself, before they deployed any encryption product. We proposed our open-source Symmetric

Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-10-08 Thread Peter Gutmann
Ben Laurie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Peter Gutmann wrote: >> "Steven M. Bellovin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:57:36 -0700 "Ali, Saqib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: US Government has select 9 security vendors that will product drive and file level encryption sof

Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-10-08 Thread Ben Laurie
Peter Gutmann wrote: > "Steven M. Bellovin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:57:36 -0700 "Ali, Saqib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> US Government has select 9 security vendors that will product drive >>> and file level encryption software. >> Out of curiousity, are any open so

Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-10-08 Thread Peter Gutmann
"Steven M. Bellovin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:57:36 -0700 "Ali, Saqib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> US Government has select 9 security vendors that will product drive >> and file level encryption software. > >Out of curiousity, are any open source FDE products being eva

Re: Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-10-08 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:57:36 -0700 "Ali, Saqib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > US Government has select 9 security vendors that will product drive > and file level encryption software. > > See: > http://security-basics.blogspot.com/2007/06/fde-fde-solutions-selected-for-us.html > OR > http://tinyur

Full Disk Encryption solutions selected for US Government use

2007-06-21 Thread Ali, Saqib
US Government has select 9 security vendors that will product drive and file level encryption software. See: http://security-basics.blogspot.com/2007/06/fde-fde-solutions-selected-for-us.html OR http://tinyurl.com/2xffax - The C