Re: [cryptography] Cypherpunks mailing list

2013-04-02 Thread fred concklin
I made cypherpu...@librelist.com. Nice and non-controversial. Feel free to post there. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Ted Smith te...@riseup.net wrote: On Mon, 2013-03-25 at 21:28 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 07:03:04PM +0100, Adam Back wrote: But my point

Re: [cryptography] Cypherpunks mailing list

2013-03-25 Thread Adam Back
Yeah but that is basically zero traffic, and I suspect in large part because its a silly domain that people who dislike inviting their addition to a watch-list will avoid. Maybe someone with a more neutral domain could try it - or a cypherpunks.* domain if they have a listserv handy. Adam On

Re: [cryptography] Cypherpunks mailing list

2013-03-25 Thread Adam Back
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 05:13:57PM +0100, Moritz wrote: On 25.03.2013 09:25, Adam Back wrote: because its a silly domain that people who dislike inviting their addition to a watch-list will avoid. Isn't exactly that a nice property of a cypherpunks list? No it is not, it is a way to

Re: [cryptography] Cypherpunks mailing list

2013-03-25 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 05:50:18PM +0100, Adam Back wrote: Isn't exactly that a nice property of a cypherpunks list? No it is not, it is a way to persuade people to leave, or not join the listserv. We have to agree to disagree on that one. A 'punk' of any kind will tend to thumb his nose at

Re: [cryptography] Cypherpunks mailing list

2013-03-25 Thread Adam Back
Cyberpunk, cypherpunk, coderpunks... is all fine, I think people have understood the etymology of those terms after a few decades, negative connotations to some of 'punk' notwithstanding, a cypherpunk is a term for an area of interest or philosophy with a dictionary definition at this point. But

Re: [cryptography] Cypherpunks mailing list

2013-03-25 Thread jameschoate
Well then start one up and show us how it's done Adam. Put your money where your mouth is. Adam Back a...@cypherspace.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 05:13:57PM +0100, Moritz wrote: On 25.03.2013 09:25, Adam Back wrote: because its a silly domain that people who dislike inviting

Re: [cryptography] Cypherpunks mailing list

2013-03-25 Thread jameschoate
Speaking as one of the two people who started that particular effort, it never quite worked out that way. Way too many TLAs, law suits, IRS visits, and those who read their own press releases to make it nearly as enjoyable as it sounds. Moritz mor...@headstrong.de wrote: On 25.03.2013

Re: [cryptography] Cypherpunks mailing list

2013-03-25 Thread coderman
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Adam Back a...@cypherspace.org wrote: Yeah but that is basically zero traffic, and I suspect in large part because its a silly domain that people who dislike inviting their addition to a watch-list will avoid. i like it. waiting for the day they accept

Re: [cryptography] Cypherpunks mailing list

2013-03-25 Thread Jens Kubieziel
* Adam Back schrieb am 2013-03-25 um 09:25 Uhr: Maybe someone with a more neutral domain could try it - or a cypherpunks.* domain if they have a listserv handy. Our local hackerspace uses a rather neutral address: URL:https://list.lstsrv.org/ We could also host the Cypherpunks list, if you

Re: [cryptography] Cypherpunks mailing list

2013-03-25 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 07:03:04PM +0100, Adam Back wrote: But my point actually was b...@al-qaeda.net??? Come on that is watch list Of course it is pure watch list bait. That's the point. bait and an invitation NOT to join list blah, whatever it is about. If you think it's a deterrent,

Re: [cryptography] Cypherpunks mailing list

2013-03-25 Thread Ted Smith
On Mon, 2013-03-25 at 21:28 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 07:03:04PM +0100, Adam Back wrote: But my point actually was b...@al-qaeda.net??? Come on that is watch list Of course it is pure watch list bait. That's the point. bait and an invitation NOT to join list