[cryptography] Moderation (Was: US Appeals Court upholds right not to decrypt a drive)

2012-02-27 Thread Harald Hanche-Olsen
[Kevin W. Wall kevin.w.w...@gmail.com (2012-02-27 01:50:40 UTC)] Well, we're already considerably OT, but since the moderator seems to be letting this thread play itself out, [...] Moderator? The list has a moderator? I had no idea. But seriously, we can all be moderators in the sense of

Re: [cryptography] US Appeals Court upholds right not to decrypt a drive

2012-02-27 Thread James A. Donald
James A. Donaldjam...@echeque.com writes: Hidden compartment? What hidden compartment? If I have one, you are welcome to search it. Go knock yourselves out. On 2012-02-27 1:30 PM, Peter Gutmann wrote: James, meet Bertha. Sorry about her cold hands, just give her a minute to get the gloves

Re: [cryptography] Moderation (Was: US Appeals Court upholds right not to decrypt a drive)

2012-02-27 Thread James A. Donald
On 2012-02-27 6:01 PM, Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote: And you can argue that much of the discussion is on topic if the topic is construed broadly. Ninety percent of cryptography is threats, in the sense that most of the failures we see around us, are failures to consider the real world in which

Re: [cryptography] US Appeals Court upholds right not to decrypt a drive

2012-02-27 Thread Joshua Engelman
James A. Donaldjam...@echeque.com  writes: Hidden compartment? What hidden compartment? If I have one, you are welcome to search it. Go knock yourselves out. On 2012-02-27 1:30 PM, Peter Gutmann wrote: James, meet Bertha.  Sorry about her cold hands, just give her a minute to get the gloves

Re: [cryptography] (off-topic) Bitcoin is a repeated lesson in cryptography applications - was endgame

2012-02-27 Thread lodewijk andré de la porte
1. No offline transactions, which makes Bitcoin useless for a large class of transactions. On Mon, 27 Feb 2012, James A. Donald wrote: Smartphones. The implicit assumptions here, namely that * everyone who wants to make financial transactions carries a smartphone * smartphones never

Re: [cryptography] Moderation (Was: US Appeals Court upholds right not to decrypt a drive)

2012-02-27 Thread Jack Lloyd
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 09:01:31AM +0100, Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote: [Kevin W. Wall kevin.w.w...@gmail.com (2012-02-27 01:50:40 UTC)] Well, we're already considerably OT, but since the moderator seems to be letting this thread play itself out, [...] Moderator? The list has a moderator?

Re: [cryptography] (off-topic) Bitcoin is a repeated lesson in cryptography applications - was endgame

2012-02-27 Thread James A. Donald
[Another key bitcoin flaw is that it's not particularly anonymous in the face of NSA-level network surveillance. Cash *is* (remains) under these conditions.] On 2012-02-27 10:26 PM, lodewijk andré de la porte wrote: Working on this. And the network problem. What is the plan? Seems to me

Re: [cryptography] (off-topic) Bitcoin is a repeated lesson in cryptography applications - was endgame

2012-02-27 Thread Natanael
Hmm... Where have I heard of that idea before... http://disattention.com/78/digital-currencies-crypto-finance-and-open-source/#ot https://github.com/FellowTraveler/Open-Transactions https://github.com/FellowTraveler/Open-Transactions/wiki/FAQ UNTRACEABLE DIGITAL CASH? … FOR REAL? Is this the

Re: [cryptography] Moderation (Was: US Appeals Court upholds right not to decrypt a drive)

2012-02-27 Thread James A. Donald
On 2012-02-27 10:45 PM, Jack Lloyd wrote: My assumption is that anyone who is interested and capable of moderating a crypto mailing list will inevitably find that they have more interesting things to do than moderating a crypto mailing list (the failure mode of cryptogra...@metzdowd.com).

Re: [cryptography] trustwave admits issuing corporate mitm certs

2012-02-27 Thread coderman
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Marsh Ray ma...@extendedsubset.com wrote: ... Still it might be worth pointing that if Wells Fargo really wanted to forbid a Trustwave network-level MitM, SSL/TLS provides the capability to enforce that policy at the protocol level. They could configure their

Re: [cryptography] trustwave admits issuing corporate mitm certs

2012-02-27 Thread Kevin W. Wall
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:08 PM, coderman coder...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Marsh Ray ma...@extendedsubset.com wrote: ... Still it might be worth pointing that if Wells Fargo really wanted to forbid a Trustwave network-level MitM, SSL/TLS provides the capability to

[cryptography] use of mutual authentication (was: trustwave admits issuing corporate mitm certs)

2012-02-27 Thread ianG
On 28/02/12 10:08 AM, coderman wrote: On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Marsh Rayma...@extendedsubset.com wrote: mutual authentication... what a concept. is it really that rare? Not really. It is widely used in protocols that didn't drink the PKI kool-aid. Skype, SSH, SOX, DigiCash, all

[cryptography] vmware offering grants to universities in Homomorphic encryption research

2012-02-27 Thread Ali, Saqib
apply if you are interested in the topic and affiliated with a university: http://labs.vmware.com/academic/rfp-spring-2012 ___ cryptography mailing list cryptography@randombit.net http://lists.randombit.net/mailman/listinfo/cryptography