Re: [cryptography] Define Privacy

2014-10-26 Thread ianG
On 22/10/2014 03:22 am, Jason Iannone wrote: On a fundamental level I wonder why privacy is important and why we should care about it. Financial privacy is all about theft. If someone knows where the money is, it can be stolen. It works statistically, in that the set of attackers is

Re: [cryptography] Define Privacy

2014-10-25 Thread dan
Michael Rogers writes: | | I always enjoy your writing and the broad scope of thought it reveals, | but I think there's more to privacy than a dichotomy between keeping | things to ourselves and revealing them to the world. | ... | I wonder if you've chosen the dichotomous view because you

Re: [cryptography] Define Privacy

2014-10-24 Thread Michael Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Dan, I always enjoy your writing and the broad scope of thought it reveals, but I think there's more to privacy than a dichotomy between keeping things to ourselves and revealing them to the world. I like David Feldman's conception of privacy,

Re: [cryptography] Define Privacy

2014-10-24 Thread Eric Mill
When Mark Zuckerberg says that people who have one self for their friends and another for their colleagues lack integrity, he's criticising them for possessing exactly the quality we call integrity in public officials - the ability to maintain boundaries between their personal and professional

Re: [cryptography] Define Privacy

2014-10-23 Thread dan
Sir, This is a question for which hard answers seem difficult. Nevertheless, below are a few paragraphs from my current book draft. The draft does not now include Ayn Rand's pronouncement that Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled

Re: [cryptography] Define Privacy

2014-10-22 Thread Jason Iannone
Thank you, Maarten and others who responded off list. I have some new sources to consume and I appreciate your input. Jason On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Maarten Billemont lhun...@lyndir.com wrote: On Oct 21, 2014, at 22:22, Jason Iannone jason.iann...@gmail.com wrote: On a fundamental

Re: [cryptography] Define Privacy

2014-10-22 Thread Eric Mill
The US Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board will be having a public all-day meeting on November 12th on exactly this: Defining Privacy. http://www.pclob.gov/newsroom/20141020/ I've been to their meetings before, in person here in DC, and I find some (not all) of the board members to be in

Re: [cryptography] Define Privacy

2014-10-22 Thread Eric Mill
Their bios are here: http://www.pclob.gov/about-us/leadership And a bit more info on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_and_Civil_Liberties_Oversight_Board#Nominations The PCLOB issued two major reports this year. The first, civil liberties folks loved, on Section 215 of the Patriot

[cryptography] Define Privacy

2014-10-21 Thread Jason Iannone
On a fundamental level I wonder why privacy is important and why we should care about it. Privacy advocates commonly cite pervasive surveillance by businesses and governments as a reason to change an individual's behavior. Discussions are stifled and joking references to The List are made. The