Il giorno sab, 31/03/2012 alle 13.03 +1000, James A. Donald ha scritto:
On 2012-03-31 1:51 AM, Nico Williams wrote:
We don't encrypt e-mail for other reasons, namely because key
management for e-mail is hard.
Key management is hard because it involves a third party, which third
party
As I recall people were calling the PGP ADK feature corporate access to
keys, which the worry was, was only policy + config away from government
access to keys.
I guess the sentiment still stands, and with some justification, people are
still worried about law enforcement access mechanisms for
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Adam Back a...@cypherspace.org writes:
Not sure that we lost the crypto wars. US companies export full strength
crypto these days, and neither the US nor most other western counties have
mandatory GAK. Seems like a win to me :)
Nope. If we had
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:10 AM, StealthMonger
stealthmon...@nym.mixmin.net wrote:
Adam Back a...@cypherspace.org writes:
Not sure that we lost the crypto wars. US companies export full strength
crypto these days, and neither the US nor most other western counties have
mandatory GAK. Seems
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Nope. If we had won, crypto would be in widespread use today for
email. As it is, enough FUD and confusion was sown to avert that
outcome. Even on geek mailing lists such as this, signatures are
rare.
Sorry, I beg to differ. The average folks
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Jon Callas j...@callas.org wrote:
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On Mar 29, 2012, at 2:48 PM, mhey...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Nico Williams n...@cryptonector.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Darren J
On 31/03/12 03:00 AM, Jeffrey I. Schiller wrote:
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Nope. If we had won, crypto would be in widespread use today for
email. As it is, enough FUD and confusion was sown to avert that
outcome. Even on geek mailing lists such as this, signatures are
From: ianG i...@iang.org
Sorry, I beg to differ. The average folks in the world today never
heard of the crypto war and certainly were not influenced by it.
A bit like saying that the average iPhone user never heard of GSM and
was certainly not influenced in it :)
I have an iPhone.
I don't
On 2012-03-31 1:51 AM, Nico Williams wrote:
We don't encrypt e-mail for other reasons, namely because key
management for e-mail is hard.
Key management is hard because it involves a third party, which third
party is also the major security hole.
We have been doing key management the wrong
On 2012-03-30 10:10 PM, StealthMonger wrote:
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Adam Backa...@cypherspace.org writes:
Not sure that we lost the crypto wars. US companies export full
strength
crypto these days, and neither the US nor most other western
counties have
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James A. Donald jam...@echeque.com writes:
On 2012-03-31 1:51 AM, Nico Williams wrote:
We don't encrypt e-mail for other reasons, namely because key
management for e-mail is hard.
Key management is hard because it involves a third party,
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On Mar 29, 2012, at 2:48 PM, mhey...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Nico Williams n...@cryptonector.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Darren J Moffat
For example an escrow system for ensuring you can decrypt data
On 30/03/12 09:38 AM, Jon Callas wrote:
Also, there wasn't a PGP system. The PGP additional decryption key is really what we'd
call a data leak prevention hook today, but that term didn't exist then. Certainly,
lots of cypherpunks called it that at the time, but the government types who were
(Nod to the rest of what you said)
On 03/25/2012 11:45 AM, Benjamin Kreuter wrote:
The US government still wants a
system where encrypted communications can be arbitrarily decrypted,
they just dress up the argument and avoid using dirty words like key
escrow.
Aside from the deep moral and
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Marsh Ray ma...@extendedsubset.com wrote:
On 03/25/2012 11:45 AM, Benjamin Kreuter wrote:
The US government still wants a
No, probably parts of it: the ones that don't have to think of the big
picture. The U.S. government is not monolythic. The NSA has shown
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