Re: Fw: [IP] Malware kills 154

2010-08-24 Thread Stefan Kelm
From the interim report available at http://www.fomento.es/MFOM/LANG_CASTELLANO/DIRECCIONES_GENERALES/ORGANOS_COLEGIADOS/CIAIAC/INVESTIGACION/2008/032_2008.htm "Based on these conclusions, the CIAIAC is of the opinion that three safety barriers provided to avoid the take-off in an inappropri

Haystack redux

2010-08-24 Thread Katrin Verclas
From another list. Begin forwarded message: From: Austin Heap Date: August 23, 2010 8:27:43 PM EDT To: liberationt...@lists.stanford.edu Subject: [liberationtech] Haystack Q&A Hi All, I understand some of you have concerns/comments regarding our project. It would be great if a list could be

Re: [IP] Malware kills 154

2010-08-24 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 03:35:45PM -0400, Steven Bellovin wrote: > > And the articles I've seen do not say that the problem caused the > crash. Rather, they say that a particular, important computer was > infected with malware; I saw no language (including in the Google > translation of the origi

Re: [IP] Malware kills 154

2010-08-24 Thread Bill Frantz
This came in from SANS NewsBites Vol. 12 Num 67 : Did a computer virus cause the 150 deaths in the Spanair crash? --Judge to Examine Evidence on Malware in Spanair Fatal Air Crash Case (August 20 & 23, 2010) A Spanish judge will investigate whether or not malware on a Spanair computer system

Re: [IP] Malware kills 154

2010-08-24 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Aug 24, 2010, at 12:32 19PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 03:35:45PM -0400, Steven Bellovin wrote: >> >> And the articles I've seen do not say that the problem caused the >> crash. Rather, they say that a particular, important computer was >> infected with malware; I saw no l

Re: [IP] Malware kills 154

2010-08-24 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 06:44:02PM -0400, Steven Bellovin wrote: > > On Aug 24, 2010, at 12:32 19PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 03:35:45PM -0400, Steven Bellovin wrote: > >> > >> And the articles I've seen do not say that the problem caused the > >> crash. Rather, they say

Re: [IP] Malware kills 154

2010-08-24 Thread Steven Bellovin
With his permission, here is a summary of the Spanish-language article by Ivan Arce, a native speaker of Spanish. (I misspoke when I said he read the actual report.) Note the lack of any assertion of causality between the crash and the malware. -- - The malware-infected computer was loca