Re: crypto backdoors = terrorisms free reign

2001-09-15 Thread Jim McCoy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] > If you weaken technology for secure communication and transmission in any > manner you must realize that at the same time you will... After seeing several people preach to the choir here (while at the same time trying to wash their hands of an

Re: Congress mulls crypto restrictions in response to attacks

2001-09-15 Thread Jim McCoy
Bram Cohen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Bill Frantz wrote: > >> So the honorable gentlemen are proposing unilateral crypto disarmament? Or >> perhaps a world where many governments can read the business plans and >> strategies of US companies? Or perhaps a world where the

Re: chip-level randomness?

2001-09-15 Thread Eric Rescorla
"R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm rooting around for stuff on hardware random number generation. > > More specificially, I'm looking to see if anyone has done any > entropy-collection at the chip-architecture level as part of the logic of a > chip. > > I saw somewhere the intel

Re: Senate votes to permit warrantless Net-wiretaps, Carnivore use

2001-09-15 Thread Declan McCullagh
At 10:57 PM 9/14/01 -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: >This is seriously misleading. Although there are a fair number of >objectionable items in the bill (the worst of which are likely >unconstitutional, though you'd have to explain protocol layering to a >judge to make that point clear), the bill

Re: Congress mulls crypto restrictions in response to attacks

2001-09-15 Thread Bram Cohen
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Jim McCoy wrote: > It is well known and documented that these cells use PGP and stego tools > when necessary The only cases I've ever read of crypto being used by illegal cells has been encrypting of hard drives - certainly a use of crypto, but not one which might have helpe

Please make stable NON-US homes for strong crypto projects

2001-09-15 Thread John Gilmore
It's clear that the US administration is putting out feelers to again ban publication of strong encryption. See: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46816,00.html The evil gnomes who keep advancing unconstitutional US anti-crypto policies know that the current hysteria in Congress and th

Re: chip-level randomness?

2001-09-15 Thread Sandy Harris
"R. A. Hettinga" wrote: > > I'm rooting around for stuff on hardware random number generation. RFC 1750 is a standard reference. There's a draft of a rewrite on ietf.org. > More specificially, I'm looking to see if anyone has done any > entropy-collection at the chip-architecture level as part

Which internet services were used?

2001-09-15 Thread Hadmut Danisch
A german TV news magazine (ZDF spezial) just mentioned that the terrorists prepared and coordinated also by using the internet, but no details were told. Does anyone know more about this? Hadmut [Moderator: I've listened to virtually all the news conferences made so far. The FBI has yet to mak

Re: Rijndael in Assembler for x86?

2001-09-15 Thread jamesd
-- Perry E. Metzger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Because it is typically slower by many times than hand > >tuned assembler. On 14 Sep 2001, at 14:24, Ian Goldberg wrote: > Are you sure? For general code, that certainly hasn't been > true in a long time; optimizing compilers nowadays can >

Re: Which internet services were used?

2001-09-15 Thread Paul Cardon
Hadmut Danisch wrote: > > A german TV news magazine (ZDF spezial) just mentioned that > the terrorists prepared and coordinated > also by using the internet, but no details were told. > > Does anyone know more about this? > > Hadmut > > [Moderator: I've listened to virtually all the news confe

Re: chip-level randomness?

2001-09-15 Thread Carl Ellison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 09:51 AM 9/14/2001 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote: >I'm rooting around for stuff on hardware random number generation. > >More specificially, I'm looking to see if anyone has done any >entropy-collection at the chip-architecture level as part of the >

Re: crypto backdoors = terrorisms free reign

2001-09-15 Thread Carl Ellison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 07:46 PM 9/14/2001 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >I don't understand why anyone would choose to vote for an individual >that doesn't understand the above logic. > I wish people voted for people who understood any kind of logic. As Matt Blaz

Re: Congress mulls crypto restrictions in response to attacks

2001-09-15 Thread Carl Ellison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 12:23 AM 9/15/2001 -0700, Bram Cohen wrote: >People in cells probably forego electronic communications completely >for highly sensitive information - face to face communication works >fine and doesn't involve anywhere near the risks. According to

RE: crypto backdoors = terrorisms free reign

2001-09-15 Thread Caspar Bowden
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jim McCoy ... > [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... > > 1) Weaken the ability of the free world to combat things such as > > terrorism due to the miss-assumption that criminals and terrorists > > will actually obey the law thereby causing l

Re: crypto backdoors = terrorisms free reign

2001-09-15 Thread Matt Blaze
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... > > Incorrect. While it is possible that such a backdoor can be found it is by > no means as simple as you imply, particularly for non-state entities. While > such secrets can eventually leak out this task is not easy for even trained > professionals, to claim that

Re: Rijndael in Assembler for x86?

2001-09-15 Thread Helger Lipmaa
First, my question was caused since Perry(?) did not originally specify *why* he needs an assembly code; and secondly, since the referred 186 assembly code might be slower than the best C codes for Pentium. On the other hand, the best (commercial) assembly implementation of Rijndael for P3 is >50%

Re: crypto backdoors = terrorisms free reign

2001-09-15 Thread Hadmut Danisch
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 08:34:09PM -0700, Jim McCoy wrote: > > Incorrect. You will weaken the absolute security of many, but the few who > choose to use strong (non-GAK) crypto will be easily distinguished from > those who comply with the rules. No. It cannot be easily distinguished. That's t

ip: Collision with Civil Rights: A Wide, Aggressive Probe

2001-09-15 Thread R. A. Hettinga
--- begin forwarded text Status: U Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 12:17:27 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (by way of [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Subject: ip: Collision with Civil Rights: A Wide, Aggressive Probe http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/nation/A34046-2001Sep14.html A Wide, Ag

RE: Which internet services were used?

2001-09-15 Thread Eric
> [Moderator: I've listened to virtually all the news conferences made > so far. The FBI has yet to make any such statement. > > In any case, however, why should we find this any more shocking or > unfortunate than terrorism being plotted using telephones, or paper > letters, or conversations? Wh

Re: [free-sklyarov] Please make stable NON-US homes for strong crypto projects (fwd)

2001-09-15 Thread Tom
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 02:28:40PM -0400, Jay Sulzberger wrote: > Subject: Please make stable NON-US homes for strong crypto projects lemuria.org has stood strong against the DeCSS censorship, and I am in the position of working at the provider. complaints, even faxes from the cops, arrive in the

Re: Which internet services were used?

2001-09-15 Thread Perry E. Metzger
"Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [Moderator: I've listened to virtually all the news conferences made > > so far. The FBI has yet to make any such statement. > > > > In any case, however, why should we find this any more shocking or > > unfortunate than terrorism being plotted using telepho

Re: Please make stable NON-US homes for strong crypto projects

2001-09-15 Thread Udhay Shankar N
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >From: John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >It's clear that the US administration is putting out feelers to >again ban publication of strong encryption. Just taking a minute to plug http://munitions.vipul.net/ -- it is a collection of Open Source crypto softw

Re: NYC events and cell phones

2001-09-15 Thread Bill Stewart
At 07:59 AM 09/13/2001 -0400, Angelos D. Keromytis wrote: >An interesting bit of information: on Tuesday afternoon, to the extend that >cellphones operated, GSM encryption was turned off throughout Manhattan. My >GSM phone would repeatedly warn me of this on every call I made (or tried >to make).

DCSB: Jean Camp; Trust and Risk in Digital Commerce

2001-09-15 Thread R. A. Hettinga
--- begin forwarded text Status: U Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 12:16:57 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: DCSB: Jean Camp; Trust and Risk in Digital Commerce Cc: Jean Camp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "R. A.