Re: [Csgo_servers] Exploit that spams/lags clients

[Stefan Reusch]

After reading all these messages i came up with an idea. I've reversed the
very well explained IP to mac and backward converter to create whole new
technology. I name it mail filter. Possible some of you have already
reading something about it. It makes it possible to convert unwanted to
spam to a clean and readable email experience. Possible with some extra
work we could extend the magical converter to an IP  -> mac -> personal
identity -> dns profile converter.

PS: Plesse valve do something against trolls like stealthmode
___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers

Re: [Csgo_servers] Exploit that spams/lags clients

[Ryan Bentley]

Stealth,

I'm currently doing an undergraduate in CS. I've pasted your nonsense into
one of our forums as a copypasta for sweet forum karma. Thank you for
making us all laugh! It's funny that you keep mentioning education. If you
sat an online course that covers some basic CS material, you'd be able to
see how ridiculous the things you type are. You have a serious delusional
problem. I suggest you seek help... I can't imagine how unbearable you must
be IRL.

If you ever do become self-aware, you should ask your best friend "Alfred"
to delete these messages as it's pretty embarrassing and if you google
"Stealthmode1975" it comes up with some other awkward things.

Hope you get help soon.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 7:14 AM, Stefan Reusch  wrote:

> After reading all these messages i came up with an idea. I've reversed the
> very well explained IP to mac and backward converter to create whole new
> technology. I name it mail filter. Possible some of you have already
> reading something about it. It makes it possible to convert unwanted to
> spam to a clean and readable email experience. Possible with some extra
> work we could extend the magical converter to an IP  -> mac -> personal
> identity -> dns profile converter.
>
> PS: Plesse valve do something against trolls like stealthmode
>
> ___
> Csgo_servers mailing list
> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
>
___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers

Re: [Csgo_servers] Exploit that spams/lags clients

[Felix]

Can someone explain what all this spam is? Any kind of TLDR? I barely kept
up with it but it seems like fun understand whats going on.
___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers

Re: [Csgo_servers] Exploit that spams/lags clients

[Frederique]

People keep replying to the mailing list's announcer of the end of the 
world. This happens every so many months for many years now.


Please just stop replying. He refuses to post proof-of-concepts, always 
has, right now, and many years back.


On 25/04/2018 14:42, Felix wrote:
Can someone explain what all this spam is? Any kind of TLDR? I barely 
kept up with it but it seems like fun understand whats going on.



___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers



___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers

Re: [Csgo_servers] stealthmode's hodge podge of facts sprinkled amongst outright lies

[Stealth Mode]

The Internet Protocol address is assigned by the operating system
contacting the network administration device which is normally a switch,
router, or hub. It checks these devices for a free Internet Protocol
address. And the packets the network sends has a footer and a header with
this IP addressing.

Once you have this IP address you can then pulse the dmz of the router and
pull it's network allocation table. Once this is done you have every Mac
address on the network.

However, with just a pkt sniffer you can go directly to someone's is and
pull their Mac address right out of the network interface cards read only
memory which is stored under the device table for the operating system
which is connected to the internet Protocol address you are using.

Literally, a phone line can be tapped with 0 and 1 about a 1,000-10,000
taps. And your machine will randomly shut off.

On Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 12:55 Jack Emerson  wrote:

> Your public IP address is assigned by your ISP independent of your
> hardware. Are you mad?
>
> Why am I even replying...I'm part of the problem.
> ___
> Csgo_servers mailing list
> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers

Re: [Csgo_servers] Exploit that spams/lags clients

[Ben Steiger]

Felix, Stealthmode doesn't understand basic networking concepts and refuses
to be wrong. He derailed someone else's thread about a legitimate exploit
to complain about us not believing him before when had a theory for an
exploit that was beyond stupid. Hopefully if we ignore him long enough, he
will just leave.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 8:42 AM, Felix  wrote:

> Can someone explain what all this spam is? Any kind of TLDR? I barely kept
> up with it but it seems like fun understand whats going on.
>
> ___
> Csgo_servers mailing list
> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
>
___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers

Re: [Csgo_servers] Csgo_servers Digest, Vol 72, Issue 27

[Frederic Nielsen]

This is not the place to argue about who's right or wrong. I suggest you
take your discussions to a private manner and not on a mailing list.

Med vennlig hilsen / With best regards

Frederic H. Nielsen

2018-04-25 14:43 GMT+02:00 :

> Send Csgo_servers mailing list submissions to
> csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/
> csgo_servers
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> csgo_servers-requ...@list.valvesoftware.com
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> csgo_servers-ow...@list.valvesoftware.com
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Csgo_servers digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>1. Re: Exploit that spams/lags clients (Stealth Mode)
>2. Re: Exploit that spams/lags clients (Stealth Mode)
>3. Re: Exploit that spams/lags clients (Patrick Layh)
>4. Re: stealthmode's hodge podge of facts sprinkled amongst
>   outright lies (Stealth Mode)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 12:30:48 +
> From: Stealth Mode 
> To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] Exploit that spams/lags clients
> Message-ID:
> 

Re: [Csgo_servers] Exploit that spams/lags clients

[Stealth Mode]

@Christian

Run your pkt through a hex editor. Extract the header and footer with a pkt
sniffer. Now decode as if you were physically translating the logic state
that generated the header/footer of the pkt.

Now translate. And your Mac address is right there. I already explained why
IP banning is pointless. And all Christian did was confirm what I said. IP
can be spoofed. Mac cannot.

On Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 14:29 Christian Burns 
wrote:

> That's funny.
>
> My internal IP address is 192.168.0.150, submit is 255.255.255.0. However,
> I can change my IP to 10.0.0.1 with Submit 255.255.255.0. Does that
> translate to the same MAC address? no... lol
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 11:14 AM, thethorgot  wrote:
>
>> He's a crank: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crank_(person)
>>
>> Arguing with him is not a good use of your time.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 10:01 AM Michael Loveless 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ​Would you be so kind as to explain all of this in greater detail and
>>> with as many more words as possible, please?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Stealth Mode <
>>> stealthmode1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Mac addresses translate up to IP addresses. That's how they make it out
 of the "home network" before the router. IP translation. Hexidecimal to
 decimal plus subnet mask. What most people who haven't studied electronics
 first, prior to I.T.. Is that your Mac address converts even lower to
 binary. Which every piece of electronics hardware uses to speak to one
 another. Including routers, switches, gateways, headends, network interface
 devices, fiber optics cabling/75ohm coax cabling, frame relays, t1/t3,
 blade servers, switch master/slave, etc.

 It all comes down to a single bit. An electron with either 0-2.5vdc, or
 2.5-5vdc. A low state, or a high state. And your IP address directly
 translates down to the Mac address below the software/transport layer (
 below the hardware layer, the writable electronics components layer ) of
 the OSI model. In this layer everything is binary addressed before machine
 assembly/reassembly. Ya know the layer where only us electronics engineers,
 and technicians really know how it all works.

 If you've ever seen a network training curriculum you know what an IP
 address range/translation table was built from. And if you knew electronics
 you'd know how computers, cellular phones, and lan/wifi all tie in
 together. If it's connected to a network it has a Mac address. Because Macs
 have to be used to communicate OVER a network. Through translation in the
 software layer before packet assembly to the transport layer. And once you
 translate down to a Mac address you can filter all incoming udp packets
 from any given device using Mac addressing.

 It's not for just the hobbyist who doesn't really know how electronic
 components speak to one another.

 Period. That said. Have a nice day. Very few here have a proper
 education in networking/NETSec/ITSec. Most of these people are running
 leased servers, most of the ones with the immature responses. Who don't
 have a CLUE how it all really works.

 When you begin studying ccde/ccie through Cisco come speak with me.
 Until then, make all the juvenile untrained/uneducated comments you want. I
 really don't care. I stopped running a go server the second I found out
 people still play source. Less bugs. Less vulnerabilities. Less bugged
 netcode. And much easier to modify.

 Willing to bet no one here ever used the sdk either. Or you'd know what
 code was flawed in go.

 I will comment from time to time to pass along wisdom. I will ignore
 the juveniles, and uneducated people that respond in ignorance/lack of
 education. Ya read a tutorial on how to setup an hlds/go server and you
 think you know everything. When you have one piece of a ten thousand piece
 puzzle figured out.

 Just this list. So you know the packets it took just for this msg to
 get to Valve servers and to your isp smtp server? Probably not.

 Probably don't know what packet sniffing is, nor who does it, nor how
 it can be injected/reformed/malformed. So farewell to the script kiddies
 and juvenile mentality people on this list.

 To everyone else, see ya on the next issue you're encountering server
 side. And Hi Alfred been a minute since I wrote directly. Hope Gabe doesn't
 fall asleep on hl3/cs3 development. Steam needs an update too. A 64 bit
 Steam squared client using vulkan based api, and rendering would be nice as
 well. You could port the older games content to mobile/any device, and
 launch the newer stuff on whatever platforms you wanted.

 Someday I will let Alfred explain how Steam became Steam when it was
 

Re: [Csgo_servers] Exploit that spams/lags clients

[Stealth Mode]

Lastly. To those posting steam_0:1 IDs. There is a few million people
between 0:0 and 0:1. You'd have to know how the algorithm works to
understand wonid to steamid conversion.

And since none have produced a wonid. None are qualified. Ignored.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 08:30 Stealth Mode  wrote:

> At the copy paste comments.
>
> Sure thing. But it's cool that you try to laugh when you're not educated.
> We at the w3 consortium always attemtp to educate but also do not laugh not
> ridicule when we come across idiots in the industry who think they know it
> all.
>
> -StealthMode
>
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 06:05 Ryan Bentley  wrote:
>
>> Stealth,
>>
>> I'm currently doing an undergraduate in CS. I've pasted your nonsense
>> into one of our forums as a copypasta for sweet forum karma. Thank you for
>> making us all laugh! It's funny that you keep mentioning education. If you
>> sat an online course that covers some basic CS material, you'd be able to
>> see how ridiculous the things you type are. You have a serious delusional
>> problem. I suggest you seek help... I can't imagine how unbearable you must
>> be IRL.
>>
>> If you ever do become self-aware, you should ask your best friend
>> "Alfred" to delete these messages as it's pretty embarrassing and if you
>> google "Stealthmode1975" it comes up with some other awkward things.
>>
>> Hope you get help soon.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 7:14 AM, Stefan Reusch 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> After reading all these messages i came up with an idea. I've reversed
>>> the very well explained IP to mac and backward converter to create whole
>>> new technology. I name it mail filter. Possible some of you have already
>>> reading something about it. It makes it possible to convert unwanted to
>>> spam to a clean and readable email experience. Possible with some extra
>>> work we could extend the magical converter to an IP  -> mac -> personal
>>> identity -> dns profile converter.
>>>
>>> PS: Plesse valve do something against trolls like stealthmode
>>>
>>> ___
>>> Csgo_servers mailing list
>>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
>>>
>>
>> ___
>> Csgo_servers mailing list
>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
>
>
___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers

Re: [Csgo_servers] Exploit that spams/lags clients

[Patrick Layh]

Holy shit this hurts my brainAm 25.04.2018 2:30 nachm. schrieb Stealth Mode :At the copy paste comments.Sure thing. But it's cool that you try to laugh when you're not educated. We at the w3 consortium always attemtp to educate but also do not laugh not ridicule when we come across idiots in the industry who think they know it all.-StealthModeOn Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 06:05 Ryan Bentley  wrote:Stealth,I'm currently doing an undergraduate in CS. I've pasted your nonsense into one of our forums as a copypasta for sweet forum karma. Thank you for making us all laugh! It's funny that you keep mentioning education. If you sat an online course that covers some basic CS material, you'd be able to see how ridiculous the things you type are. You have a serious delusional problem. I suggest you seek help... I can't imagine how unbearable you must be IRL.If you ever do become self-aware, you should ask your best friend "Alfred" to delete these messages as it's pretty embarrassing and if you google "Stealthmode1975" it comes up with some other awkward things.Hope you get help soon.On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 7:14 AM, Stefan Reusch  wrote:After reading all these messages i came up with an idea. I've reversed the very well explained IP to mac and backward converter to create whole new technology. I name it mail filter. Possible some of you have already reading something about it. It makes it possible to convert unwanted to spam to a clean and readable email experience. Possible with some extra work we could extend the magical converter to an IP  -> mac -> personal identity -> dns profile converter.PS: Plesse valve do something against trolls like stealthmode
___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers

Re: [Csgo_servers] stealthmode's hodge podge of facts sprinkled amongst outright lies

[Geo B.]

Could you just randomly shut off like this machine please?

We all had a lot of fun reading your nonsense emails even at my office but
this is enough i think.


Le mer. 25 avr. 2018 à 14:43, Stealth Mode  a
écrit :

> The Internet Protocol address is assigned by the operating system
> contacting the network administration device which is normally a switch,
> router, or hub. It checks these devices for a free Internet Protocol
> address. And the packets the network sends has a footer and a header with
> this IP addressing.
>
> Once you have this IP address you can then pulse the dmz of the router and
> pull it's network allocation table. Once this is done you have every Mac
> address on the network.
>
> However, with just a pkt sniffer you can go directly to someone's is and
> pull their Mac address right out of the network interface cards read only
> memory which is stored under the device table for the operating system
> which is connected to the internet Protocol address you are using.
>
> Literally, a phone line can be tapped with 0 and 1 about a 1,000-10,000
> taps. And your machine will randomly shut off.
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 12:55 Jack Emerson  wrote:
>
>> Your public IP address is assigned by your ISP independent of your
>> hardware. Are you mad?
>>
>> Why am I even replying...I'm part of the problem.
>> ___
>> Csgo_servers mailing list
>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
>
> ___
> Csgo_servers mailing list
> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers

Re: [Csgo_servers] Exploit that spams/lags clients

[Kristin A]

Okay this latest BS _is_ actually relevant to CS so I'm responding again.
There were two servers that were handing out Steam IDs back then;
STEAM_0:1: just represents the alternate. There is no such thing as WON ID
to Steam, they were merely incremental.

Signed, STEAM_0:1:12*** who knows that the MAC address on the ethernet
frame is only used in the local domain, and has worked in network
engineering for over 14 years.

On 25 April 2018 at 08:35, Stealth Mode  wrote:

> Lastly. To those posting steam_0:1 IDs. There is a few million people
> between 0:0 and 0:1. You'd have to know how the algorithm works to
> understand wonid to steamid conversion.
>
> And since none have produced a wonid. None are qualified. Ignored.
>
>
___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers

Re: [Csgo_servers] Exploit that spams/lags clients

[Charalampos Galanis]

Is there a way to unsubscribe from this mailing list? Sick of your spam
plus currently not owning any csgo server ,and even if I still had one ,
this mailing list is not as helpful as it was 5 years ago.

Tried visiting https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Mailing_List
, clicked csgo_servers, as well as other  mailing list links but none of
them ever responding.

Thank you.

Στις Τετ, 25 Απρ 2018, 17:00 ο χρήστης Kristin A 
έγραψε:

> Okay this latest BS _is_ actually relevant to CS so I'm responding again.
> There were two servers that were handing out Steam IDs back then;
> STEAM_0:1: just represents the alternate. There is no such thing as WON ID
> to Steam, they were merely incremental.
>
> Signed, STEAM_0:1:12*** who knows that the MAC address on the ethernet
> frame is only used in the local domain, and has worked in network
> engineering for over 14 years.
>
> On 25 April 2018 at 08:35, Stealth Mode  wrote:
>
>> Lastly. To those posting steam_0:1 IDs. There is a few million people
>> between 0:0 and 0:1. You'd have to know how the algorithm works to
>> understand wonid to steamid conversion.
>>
>> And since none have produced a wonid. None are qualified. Ignored.
>>
>> ___
> Csgo_servers mailing list
> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers

Re: [Csgo_servers] Exploit that spams/lags clients

[Vinícius Santana]

You can update your subscription here
.

2018-04-25 11:31 GMT-03:00 Charalampos Galanis :

> Is there a way to unsubscribe from this mailing list? Sick of your spam
> plus currently not owning any csgo server ,and even if I still had one ,
> this mailing list is not as helpful as it was 5 years ago.
>
> Tried visiting https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Mailing_List
> , clicked csgo_servers, as well as other  mailing list links but none of
> them ever responding.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Στις Τετ, 25 Απρ 2018, 17:00 ο χρήστης Kristin A 
> έγραψε:
>
>> Okay this latest BS _is_ actually relevant to CS so I'm responding again.
>> There were two servers that were handing out Steam IDs back then;
>> STEAM_0:1: just represents the alternate. There is no such thing as WON ID
>> to Steam, they were merely incremental.
>>
>> Signed, STEAM_0:1:12*** who knows that the MAC address on the ethernet
>> frame is only used in the local domain, and has worked in network
>> engineering for over 14 years.
>>
>> On 25 April 2018 at 08:35, Stealth Mode 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lastly. To those posting steam_0:1 IDs. There is a few million people
>>> between 0:0 and 0:1. You'd have to know how the algorithm works to
>>> understand wonid to steamid conversion.
>>>
>>> And since none have produced a wonid. None are qualified. Ignored.
>>>
>>> ___
>> Csgo_servers mailing list
>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
>
>
> ___
> Csgo_servers mailing list
> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
>
___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers

Re: [Csgo_servers] stealthmode's hodge podge of facts sprinkled amongst outright lies

[Stealth Mode]

Last message for the kids.

Do you know what a field programmable gate array is? Because you refer to
them as CPU/gpu. Do you know what f.p.g.a., and e.e.p.r.o.m., and p.r.o.m.
are? Those are the 4 bit through 64 bit programmable logic controllers that
every "computer" ever made uses to have a "machine/pc". Including the 16
bit hexidecimal/machine assembly language utilizing logic controller that
stores Mac addresses known as the U.A.R.T. chip in your network interface
card/onboard lan/wifi adapters.

Some of us can go below the hardware layer. We don't ban by IP addressing.
That was the point of the previous topic. Cause anyone can walk under the
hardware layer without detection, and without being able to be
seen/tracked/banned. The point was to ban by Mac address because most of
the script kiddies, and amateurs. Those who aren't trained in electronics,
and especially binary logic controller programming. Will never be able to
connect to your go server to run malicious scripts.

That was the point. Have a nice day. A large number of people from the
previous topic are now blocked permanently from any type of communication
to my dmz.

Furthermore. The suggestion to run your servers through a VMware/virtual
machine is always a good idea. It keeps the environment sandboxed to keep
the physical hardware from being damaged by malicious files/packets/scripts.

End of Discussion.


On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 08:41 Stealth Mode  wrote:

> The Internet Protocol address is assigned by the operating system
> contacting the network administration device which is normally a switch,
> router, or hub. It checks these devices for a free Internet Protocol
> address. And the packets the network sends has a footer and a header with
> this IP addressing.
>
> Once you have this IP address you can then pulse the dmz of the router and
> pull it's network allocation table. Once this is done you have every Mac
> address on the network.
>
> However, with just a pkt sniffer you can go directly to someone's is and
> pull their Mac address right out of the network interface cards read only
> memory which is stored under the device table for the operating system
> which is connected to the internet Protocol address you are using.
>
> Literally, a phone line can be tapped with 0 and 1 about a 1,000-10,000
> taps. And your machine will randomly shut off.
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 12:55 Jack Emerson  wrote:
>
>> Your public IP address is assigned by your ISP independent of your
>> hardware. Are you mad?
>>
>> Why am I even replying...I'm part of the problem.
>> ___
>> Csgo_servers mailing list
>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
>
>
___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers

Re: [Csgo_servers] Exploit that spams/lags clients

[Stealth Mode]

A) when customers request them at the data centers I do install, and
operate go servers. As well as hlds, and source servers. And half a dozen
other fps products.

B) it isn't spam to those who recognize a free education.

C) you are now blocked from further communications outside of your home
network to me.

End of Discussion.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 10:34 Charalampos Galanis  wrote:

> Is there a way to unsubscribe from this mailing list? Sick of your spam
> plus currently not owning any csgo server ,and even if I still had one ,
> this mailing list is not as helpful as it was 5 years ago.
>
> Tried visiting https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Mailing_List
> , clicked csgo_servers, as well as other  mailing list links but none of
> them ever responding.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Στις Τετ, 25 Απρ 2018, 17:00 ο χρήστης Kristin A 
> έγραψε:
>
>> Okay this latest BS _is_ actually relevant to CS so I'm responding again.
>> There were two servers that were handing out Steam IDs back then;
>> STEAM_0:1: just represents the alternate. There is no such thing as WON ID
>> to Steam, they were merely incremental.
>>
>> Signed, STEAM_0:1:12*** who knows that the MAC address on the ethernet
>> frame is only used in the local domain, and has worked in network
>> engineering for over 14 years.
>>
>> On 25 April 2018 at 08:35, Stealth Mode 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lastly. To those posting steam_0:1 IDs. There is a few million people
>>> between 0:0 and 0:1. You'd have to know how the algorithm works to
>>> understand wonid to steamid conversion.
>>>
>>> And since none have produced a wonid. None are qualified. Ignored.
>>>
>>> ___
>> Csgo_servers mailing list
>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
>
> ___
> Csgo_servers mailing list
> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers

Re: [Csgo_servers] stealthmode's hodge podge of facts sprinkled amongst outright lies

[Erik-jan Riemers]

"It keeps the environment sandboxed to keep the physical hardware from
being damaged by malicious files/packets/scripts."

.. since scripts these days can physically damage hardware? Almost looks
like he's copy pasting a bad bofh, fun still..

2018-04-25 16:41 GMT+02:00 Stealth Mode :

> Last message for the kids.
>
> Do you know what a field programmable gate array is? Because you refer to
> them as CPU/gpu. Do you know what f.p.g.a., and e.e.p.r.o.m., and p.r.o.m.
> are? Those are the 4 bit through 64 bit programmable logic controllers that
> every "computer" ever made uses to have a "machine/pc". Including the 16
> bit hexidecimal/machine assembly language utilizing logic controller that
> stores Mac addresses known as the U.A.R.T. chip in your network interface
> card/onboard lan/wifi adapters.
>
> Some of us can go below the hardware layer. We don't ban by IP addressing.
> That was the point of the previous topic. Cause anyone can walk under the
> hardware layer without detection, and without being able to be
> seen/tracked/banned. The point was to ban by Mac address because most of
> the script kiddies, and amateurs. Those who aren't trained in electronics,
> and especially binary logic controller programming. Will never be able to
> connect to your go server to run malicious scripts.
>
> That was the point. Have a nice day. A large number of people from the
> previous topic are now blocked permanently from any type of communication
> to my dmz.
>
> Furthermore. The suggestion to run your servers through a VMware/virtual
> machine is always a good idea. It keeps the environment sandboxed to keep
> the physical hardware from being damaged by malicious files/packets/scripts.
>
> End of Discussion.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 08:41 Stealth Mode 
> wrote:
>
>> The Internet Protocol address is assigned by the operating system
>> contacting the network administration device which is normally a switch,
>> router, or hub. It checks these devices for a free Internet Protocol
>> address. And the packets the network sends has a footer and a header with
>> this IP addressing.
>>
>> Once you have this IP address you can then pulse the dmz of the router
>> and pull it's network allocation table. Once this is done you have every
>> Mac address on the network.
>>
>> However, with just a pkt sniffer you can go directly to someone's is and
>> pull their Mac address right out of the network interface cards read only
>> memory which is stored under the device table for the operating system
>> which is connected to the internet Protocol address you are using.
>>
>> Literally, a phone line can be tapped with 0 and 1 about a 1,000-10,000
>> taps. And your machine will randomly shut off.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 12:55 Jack Emerson  wrote:
>>
>>> Your public IP address is assigned by your ISP independent of your
>>> hardware. Are you mad?
>>>
>>> Why am I even replying...I'm part of the problem.
>>> ___
>>> Csgo_servers mailing list
>>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
>>
>>
> ___
> Csgo_servers mailing list
> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
>
___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers

Re: [Csgo_servers] Exploit that spams/lags clients

[John Lanner]

For a guy who claims to ignore ' the juveniles, and uneducated people that
respond in ignorance/lack of education' you seem to do the opposite a lot.

Here's a recommendation.  Submit your "knowledge".  If people don't like
it, then just leave it alone.  There's better things to do than spend time
arguing with people on an email list.  Especially someone with as much
"experience"
and "credentials" as you.   You led them to water but it's up to them to
drink it.

Cheers.


On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Stealth Mode 
wrote:

> A) when customers request them at the data centers I do install, and
> operate go servers. As well as hlds, and source servers. And half a dozen
> other fps products.
>
> B) it isn't spam to those who recognize a free education.
>
> C) you are now blocked from further communications outside of your home
> network to me.
>
> End of Discussion.
>
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 10:34 Charalampos Galanis 
> wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to unsubscribe from this mailing list? Sick of your spam
>> plus currently not owning any csgo server ,and even if I still had one ,
>> this mailing list is not as helpful as it was 5 years ago.
>>
>> Tried visiting https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_
>> Mailing_List , clicked csgo_servers, as well as other  mailing list
>> links but none of them ever responding.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Στις Τετ, 25 Απρ 2018, 17:00 ο χρήστης Kristin A 
>> έγραψε:
>>
>>> Okay this latest BS _is_ actually relevant to CS so I'm responding
>>> again. There were two servers that were handing out Steam IDs back then;
>>> STEAM_0:1: just represents the alternate. There is no such thing as WON ID
>>> to Steam, they were merely incremental.
>>>
>>> Signed, STEAM_0:1:12*** who knows that the MAC address on the ethernet
>>> frame is only used in the local domain, and has worked in network
>>> engineering for over 14 years.
>>>
>>> On 25 April 2018 at 08:35, Stealth Mode 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Lastly. To those posting steam_0:1 IDs. There is a few million people
 between 0:0 and 0:1. You'd have to know how the algorithm works to
 understand wonid to steamid conversion.

 And since none have produced a wonid. None are qualified. Ignored.

 ___
>>> Csgo_servers mailing list
>>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
>>
>> ___
>> Csgo_servers mailing list
>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
>
>
> ___
> Csgo_servers mailing list
> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
>
___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers

Re: [Csgo_servers] stealthmode's hodge podge of facts sprinkled amongst outright lies

[Saint K.]

In science, which this is, things have to be proven by the arguing party. So, 
with that in mind, I would really love to see the math that apparently can 
digest an IP address from a MAC address.
 
Entertain us 
 
 
From: Csgo_servers  On Behalf Of 
Stealth Mode
Sent: 25 April 2018 16:42
To: csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [Csgo_servers] stealthmode's hodge podge of facts sprinkled 
amongst outright lies
 
Last message for the kids.
 
Do you know what a field programmable gate array is? Because you refer to them 
as CPU/gpu. Do you know what f.p.g.a., and e.e.p.r.o.m., and p.r.o.m. are? 
Those are the 4 bit through 64 bit programmable logic controllers that every 
"computer" ever made uses to have a "machine/pc". Including the 16 bit 
hexidecimal/machine assembly language utilizing logic controller that stores 
Mac addresses known as the U.A.R.T. chip in your network interface card/onboard 
lan/wifi adapters.
 
Some of us can go below the hardware layer. We don't ban by IP addressing. That 
was the point of the previous topic. Cause anyone can walk under the hardware 
layer without detection, and without being able to be seen/tracked/banned. The 
point was to ban by Mac address because most of the script kiddies, and 
amateurs. Those who aren't trained in electronics, and especially binary logic 
controller programming. Will never be able to connect to your go server to run 
malicious scripts.
 
That was the point. Have a nice day. A large number of people from the previous 
topic are now blocked permanently from any type of communication to my dmz.
 
Furthermore. The suggestion to run your servers through a VMware/virtual 
machine is always a good idea. It keeps the environment sandboxed to keep the 
physical hardware from being damaged by malicious files/packets/scripts.
 
End of Discussion.
 
 
On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 08:41 Stealth Mode  wrote:
The Internet Protocol address is assigned by the operating system contacting 
the network administration device which is normally a switch, router, or hub. 
It checks these devices for a free Internet Protocol address. And the packets 
the network sends has a footer and a header with this IP addressing.
 
Once you have this IP address you can then pulse the dmz of the router and pull 
it's network allocation table. Once this is done you have every Mac address on 
the network. 
 
However, with just a pkt sniffer you can go directly to someone's is and pull 
their Mac address right out of the network interface cards read only memory 
which is stored under the device table for the operating system which is 
connected to the internet Protocol address you are using.
 
Literally, a phone line can be tapped with 0 and 1 about a 1,000-10,000 taps. 
And your machine will randomly shut off.
 
On Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 12:55 Jack Emerson  wrote:
Your public IP address is assigned by your ISP independent of your hardware. 
Are you mad?
 
Why am I even replying...I'm part of the problem.
___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers

Re: [Csgo_servers] stealthmode's hodge podge of facts sprinkled amongst outright lies

[Ben Fullick]

@Saint K.
Lurker here, I found this amazing tool during my lunch that does 'the math'
;)
https://fiddle.jshell.net/Logham/cjy5050a/show/dark/
This tool elegantly translates the 4 bytes of any IP4 address, into your 6
byte MAC address. Just like the actual internet!
...I'll go back to lurking now.

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 at 17:09 Ben Fullick  wrote:

> @Saint K.
> Lurker here, I found this amazing tool during my lunch that does 'the
> math' ;)
> https://fiddle.jshell.net/Logham/cjy5050a/show/dark/
> This tool elegantly translates the 4 bytes of any IP4 address, into your 6
> byte MAC address. Just like the actual internet!
> ...I'll go back to lurking now.
>
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 at 16:09 Saint K.  wrote:
>
>> In science, which this is, things have to be proven by the arguing party.
>> So, with that in mind, I would really love to see the math that apparently
>> can digest an IP address from a MAC address.
>>
>>
>>
>> Entertain us 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Csgo_servers  *On
>> Behalf Of *Stealth Mode
>> *Sent:* 25 April 2018 16:42
>> *To:* csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [Csgo_servers] stealthmode's hodge podge of facts
>> sprinkled amongst outright lies
>>
>>
>>
>> Last message for the kids.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you know what a field programmable gate array is? Because you refer to
>> them as CPU/gpu. Do you know what f.p.g.a., and e.e.p.r.o.m., and p.r.o.m.
>> are? Those are the 4 bit through 64 bit programmable logic controllers that
>> every "computer" ever made uses to have a "machine/pc". Including the 16
>> bit hexidecimal/machine assembly language utilizing logic controller that
>> stores Mac addresses known as the U.A.R.T. chip in your network interface
>> card/onboard lan/wifi adapters.
>>
>>
>>
>> Some of us can go below the hardware layer. We don't ban by IP
>> addressing. That was the point of the previous topic. Cause anyone can walk
>> under the hardware layer without detection, and without being able to be
>> seen/tracked/banned. The point was to ban by Mac address because most of
>> the script kiddies, and amateurs. Those who aren't trained in electronics,
>> and especially binary logic controller programming. Will never be able to
>> connect to your go server to run malicious scripts.
>>
>>
>>
>> That was the point. Have a nice day. A large number of people from the
>> previous topic are now blocked permanently from any type of communication
>> to my dmz.
>>
>>
>>
>> Furthermore. The suggestion to run your servers through a VMware/virtual
>> machine is always a good idea. It keeps the environment sandboxed to keep
>> the physical hardware from being damaged by malicious files/packets/scripts.
>>
>>
>>
>> End of Discussion.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 08:41 Stealth Mode 
>> wrote:
>>
>> The Internet Protocol address is assigned by the operating system
>> contacting the network administration device which is normally a switch,
>> router, or hub. It checks these devices for a free Internet Protocol
>> address. And the packets the network sends has a footer and a header with
>> this IP addressing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Once you have this IP address you can then pulse the dmz of the router
>> and pull it's network allocation table. Once this is done you have every
>> Mac address on the network.
>>
>>
>>
>> However, with just a pkt sniffer you can go directly to someone's is and
>> pull their Mac address right out of the network interface cards read only
>> memory which is stored under the device table for the operating system
>> which is connected to the internet Protocol address you are using.
>>
>>
>>
>> Literally, a phone line can be tapped with 0 and 1 about a 1,000-10,000
>> taps. And your machine will randomly shut off.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 12:55 Jack Emerson  wrote:
>>
>> Your public IP address is assigned by your ISP independent of your
>> hardware. Are you mad?
>>
>>
>>
>> Why am I even replying...I'm part of the problem.
>>
>> ___
>> Csgo_servers mailing list
>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
>>
>> ___
>> Csgo_servers mailing list
>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
>
>
___
Csgo_servers mailing list
Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers

Re: [Csgo_servers] stealthmode's hodge podge of facts sprinkled amongst outright lies

[Jonatan Matějka]

The proof of concept is left as an exercise to the reader.

2018-04-25 20:49 GMT+02:00 ProJaCore :

> Dear Stalthmode
>
> if you have the time
> because you have the time
> since ur writing facades of textes.
>
> create a proof of concept
> just fo us
> no matter
>
> if you can prrof it
> then ur fine
> if not
>
> then theres no way that we should believe you
>
> xoxo
>
> Ben Fullick  schrieb am Mi., 25. Apr. 2018, 19:34:
>
>> @Saint K.
>> Lurker here, I found this amazing tool during my lunch that does 'the
>> math' ;)
>> https://fiddle.jshell.net/Logham/cjy5050a/show/dark/
>> This tool elegantly translates the 4 bytes of any IP4 address, into your
>> 6 byte MAC address. Just like the actual internet!
>> ...I'll go back to lurking now.
>>
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 at 17:09 Ben Fullick  wrote:
>>
>>> @Saint K.
>>> Lurker here, I found this amazing tool during my lunch that does 'the
>>> math' ;)
>>> https://fiddle.jshell.net/Logham/cjy5050a/show/dark/
>>> This tool elegantly translates the 4 bytes of any IP4 address, into your
>>> 6 byte MAC address. Just like the actual internet!
>>> ...I'll go back to lurking now.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 at 16:09 Saint K.  wrote:
>>>
 In science, which this is, things have to be proven by the arguing
 party. So, with that in mind, I would really love to see the math that
 apparently can digest an IP address from a MAC address.



 Entertain us 





 *From:* Csgo_servers  *On
 Behalf Of *Stealth Mode
 *Sent:* 25 April 2018 16:42
 *To:* csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
 *Subject:* Re: [Csgo_servers] stealthmode's hodge podge of facts
 sprinkled amongst outright lies



 Last message for the kids.



 Do you know what a field programmable gate array is? Because you refer
 to them as CPU/gpu. Do you know what f.p.g.a., and e.e.p.r.o.m., and
 p.r.o.m. are? Those are the 4 bit through 64 bit programmable logic
 controllers that every "computer" ever made uses to have a "machine/pc".
 Including the 16 bit hexidecimal/machine assembly language utilizing logic
 controller that stores Mac addresses known as the U.A.R.T. chip in your
 network interface card/onboard lan/wifi adapters.



 Some of us can go below the hardware layer. We don't ban by IP
 addressing. That was the point of the previous topic. Cause anyone can walk
 under the hardware layer without detection, and without being able to be
 seen/tracked/banned. The point was to ban by Mac address because most of
 the script kiddies, and amateurs. Those who aren't trained in electronics,
 and especially binary logic controller programming. Will never be able to
 connect to your go server to run malicious scripts.



 That was the point. Have a nice day. A large number of people from the
 previous topic are now blocked permanently from any type of communication
 to my dmz.



 Furthermore. The suggestion to run your servers through a
 VMware/virtual machine is always a good idea. It keeps the environment
 sandboxed to keep the physical hardware from being damaged by malicious
 files/packets/scripts.



 End of Discussion.





 On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 08:41 Stealth Mode 
 wrote:

 The Internet Protocol address is assigned by the operating system
 contacting the network administration device which is normally a switch,
 router, or hub. It checks these devices for a free Internet Protocol
 address. And the packets the network sends has a footer and a header with
 this IP addressing.



 Once you have this IP address you can then pulse the dmz of the router
 and pull it's network allocation table. Once this is done you have every
 Mac address on the network.



 However, with just a pkt sniffer you can go directly to someone's is
 and pull their Mac address right out of the network interface cards read
 only memory which is stored under the device table for the operating system
 which is connected to the internet Protocol address you are using.



 Literally, a phone line can be tapped with 0 and 1 about a 1,000-10,000
 taps. And your machine will randomly shut off.



 On Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 12:55 Jack Emerson  wrote:

 Your public IP address is assigned by your ISP independent of your
 hardware. Are you mad?



 Why am I even replying...I'm part of the problem.

 ___
 Csgo_servers mailing list
 Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
 

Re: [Csgo_servers] stealthmode's hodge podge of facts sprinkled amongst outright lies

[ProJaCore]

Dear Stalthmode

if you have the time
because you have the time
since ur writing facades of textes.

create a proof of concept
just fo us
no matter

if you can prrof it
then ur fine
if not

then theres no way that we should believe you

xoxo

Ben Fullick  schrieb am Mi., 25. Apr. 2018, 19:34:

> @Saint K.
> Lurker here, I found this amazing tool during my lunch that does 'the
> math' ;)
> https://fiddle.jshell.net/Logham/cjy5050a/show/dark/
> This tool elegantly translates the 4 bytes of any IP4 address, into your 6
> byte MAC address. Just like the actual internet!
> ...I'll go back to lurking now.
>
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 at 17:09 Ben Fullick  wrote:
>
>> @Saint K.
>> Lurker here, I found this amazing tool during my lunch that does 'the
>> math' ;)
>> https://fiddle.jshell.net/Logham/cjy5050a/show/dark/
>> This tool elegantly translates the 4 bytes of any IP4 address, into your
>> 6 byte MAC address. Just like the actual internet!
>> ...I'll go back to lurking now.
>>
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 at 16:09 Saint K.  wrote:
>>
>>> In science, which this is, things have to be proven by the arguing
>>> party. So, with that in mind, I would really love to see the math that
>>> apparently can digest an IP address from a MAC address.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Entertain us 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Csgo_servers  *On
>>> Behalf Of *Stealth Mode
>>> *Sent:* 25 April 2018 16:42
>>> *To:* csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Csgo_servers] stealthmode's hodge podge of facts
>>> sprinkled amongst outright lies
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Last message for the kids.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you know what a field programmable gate array is? Because you refer
>>> to them as CPU/gpu. Do you know what f.p.g.a., and e.e.p.r.o.m., and
>>> p.r.o.m. are? Those are the 4 bit through 64 bit programmable logic
>>> controllers that every "computer" ever made uses to have a "machine/pc".
>>> Including the 16 bit hexidecimal/machine assembly language utilizing logic
>>> controller that stores Mac addresses known as the U.A.R.T. chip in your
>>> network interface card/onboard lan/wifi adapters.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some of us can go below the hardware layer. We don't ban by IP
>>> addressing. That was the point of the previous topic. Cause anyone can walk
>>> under the hardware layer without detection, and without being able to be
>>> seen/tracked/banned. The point was to ban by Mac address because most of
>>> the script kiddies, and amateurs. Those who aren't trained in electronics,
>>> and especially binary logic controller programming. Will never be able to
>>> connect to your go server to run malicious scripts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That was the point. Have a nice day. A large number of people from the
>>> previous topic are now blocked permanently from any type of communication
>>> to my dmz.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Furthermore. The suggestion to run your servers through a VMware/virtual
>>> machine is always a good idea. It keeps the environment sandboxed to keep
>>> the physical hardware from being damaged by malicious files/packets/scripts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> End of Discussion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 08:41 Stealth Mode 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The Internet Protocol address is assigned by the operating system
>>> contacting the network administration device which is normally a switch,
>>> router, or hub. It checks these devices for a free Internet Protocol
>>> address. And the packets the network sends has a footer and a header with
>>> this IP addressing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Once you have this IP address you can then pulse the dmz of the router
>>> and pull it's network allocation table. Once this is done you have every
>>> Mac address on the network.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However, with just a pkt sniffer you can go directly to someone's is and
>>> pull their Mac address right out of the network interface cards read only
>>> memory which is stored under the device table for the operating system
>>> which is connected to the internet Protocol address you are using.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Literally, a phone line can be tapped with 0 and 1 about a 1,000-10,000
>>> taps. And your machine will randomly shut off.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018, 12:55 Jack Emerson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Your public IP address is assigned by your ISP independent of your
>>> hardware. Are you mad?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why am I even replying...I'm part of the problem.
>>>
>>> ___
>>> Csgo_servers mailing list
>>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
>>>
>>> ___
>>> Csgo_servers mailing list
>>> Csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/csgo_servers
>>
>> ___
>