[css-d] Poor CSS work processes

Hi all, Here's a quote from a recent post, which I've modified to make a point. I've removed the attribution, as my intention is not to single out any person in particular, but to make an observation about something I've seen with disappointing regularity: I recognize the frustration

Re: [css-d] Poor CSS work processes

At 11:27 PM 9/22/2005, Andrew Gregory wrote: ... The problem is the work process by which a design is only checked in one, maybe two browsers while the development proceeds, then when everything is finished it is checked in more browsers. It's great to see this point made, Andrew (although I'm

Re: [css-d] Poor CSS work processes

Many studies have found that the earlier bugs are found, the cheaper, quicker, and easier they are to fix. That applies to web design too. I hope more of you might consider earlier testing. I expect the result would be happier web designers, and more robust cross-browser designs. What it

Re: [css-d] Poor CSS work processes

Andrew Gregory wrote: ... Many studies have found that the earlier bugs are found, the cheaper, quicker, and easier they are to fix. That applies to web design too. And the earlier web designers include this point in their learning-process, the quicker they'll end up with cross-browser

[css-d] Safari problem

Hi all, Now that I've got browser testing off my chest, it's time to admit I haven't done much testing myself, in Safari anyway. My excuse is that I'm a Windows person, not a Mac person, and until very recently, didn't have access to a Mac at all. The closest I got to Safari was

Re: [css-d] Site Check Please - Voices of CSM

Voices of CSM is a great website for a first attempt at CSS design. All those having trouble designing with CSS should learn from this example. If anyone has a moment and can check out my site (this is my first all CSS site) - it seems to be okay in IE6, FF, Opera NN7, but I'm not sure about

Re: [css-d] Safari problem

Andrew Gregory wrote: ... Safari chops off all the menus at the right edge of the left-most drop down, although they are active for their full width even if you can't see it. Ex. http://www.scss.com.au/family/andrew/pdas/palm/myprogs/sudoku/ Just a hint: ul.menu li { display:

[css-d] 100% Horizontal sub list was [*argh* listitis.....!?!?]

Eric Shepherd wrote: making it, but you can check out www.creeksidebanquet.com, and my article on A List Apart, at www.alistapart.com/articles/hybrid/, Hi Last night I worked through Erics ALA article, which is great. And I thought I'd achieved what I needed and yup it is (almost) all

RE: [css-d] Why don't my images appear on site?

images/masthead770.gif in your coding I guess refers to originalmasthead.gif in your images folder. Filenames should be exactly the same, otherwise they can't be found. Aside from that there are a lot of images not in the folder you are refering to in your coding. Double check if they are uploaded

[css-d] Why doesn't this page work?

I cannot believe how hard CSS is. I am ready to give up. What am I doing wrong? http://www.wminc.biz/newpage.htm Can anyone help me? __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List

Re: [css-d] Why doesn't this page work?

On 23/09/05, Nancy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot believe how hard CSS is. I am ready to give up. What am I doing wrong? http://www.wminc.biz/newpage.htm It really depends on how what you get is differing from what you want. To take a wild guess - you've made the links inside #button

Re: [css-d] Re: Negative Margin FireFox Mac Issue

Yazmin Media wrote: On 9/22/05, Zoe M. Gillenwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's probably a rounding error. Can you send the URL of the page that has a similar problem? Sure. Here it is: http://yazminmedia.com/playground/tabs.htm Ok, now you have me confused. This is the same

Re: [css-d] Why doesn't this page work?

Nancy Smith wrote: I cannot believe how hard CSS is. I am ready to give up. What am I doing wrong? Relax. The learning-curve is pretty steep. After a while it's mostly fun all the way. http://www.wminc.biz/newpage.htm Can anyone help me? Sure... What's the problem? Add a few details to go

Re: [css-d] Why doesn't this page work?

Part of the problem is at the end of your code you have: /body/html /body /html Drop the last two lines and that will help. Nancy Smith wrote: I cannot believe how hard CSS is. I am ready to give up. What am I doing wrong? http://www.wminc.biz/newpage.htm Can anyone help me?

[css-d] Centered Layout + attached to left edge. Possible with CSS at all?

Hey guys, I'm no spring onion when it comes to CSS, but creating this has me stumped. It's a centered layout, but with columns stretching out to the left edge. http://www.multiblah.com/exps/css/centered_left/left.html Is that possible to do that with CSS at all? I'm struggling to figure out

Re: [css-d] Getting back into css...

On Sep 22, 2005, at 3:08 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: I have my copy, but have yet had the chance to read it, so I can only comment that it exists and had decent review on Amazon. I've read it, repeatedly. I can generally recommend anything with Molly's name on it, but this one is even better

Re: [css-d] Safari problem

On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:21:37 +0800, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Gregory wrote: ... Safari chops off all the menus at the right edge of the left-most drop down, although they are active for their full width even if you can't see it. Ex.

[css-d] Can I style generated content?

Is it possible to style generated text? /* Example: CSS */ a { font-family: arial; color: red; text-decoration: none; } a.left-arrow:before { content: ; } !-- Example: HTML -- a href=thispage.html class=left-arrowGo to this page/a The link will appear in all red arial, like

Re: [css-d] Centered Layout + attached to left edge. Possible with CSS at all?

Hi Kevin Kevin Cannon wrote: http://www.multiblah.com/exps/css/centered_left/left.html Do you have a screen shot online to demonstrate what you are trying to achieve? Do you know how big the left column will 'always' be? I'm no spring onion when it comes to CSS, but creating this has me

[css-d] Maybe OT: As it is Friday - have a free CSS template

I just had some very good news and I have this template lying around. Did it for a friend but it seems it'll never pull off anyway... http://www.wait-till-i.com/index.php?p=165 enjoy and good weekend Chris -- Chris Heilmann Blog: http://www.wait-till-i.com Writing: http://icant.co.uk/

Re: [css-d] Centered Layout + attached to left edge. Possible with CSS at all?

Kevin: The site you gave does it really poorly. This is very easy to do with divs... you just put the fixed div inside the stretched div. Let me show you: div style= width:100%; div style= width: 550px; position:relative; left:50%; margin-left:-275px; content / div / div See what it

Re: [css-d] Centered Layout + attached to left edge. Possible with CSS at all?

Kristina, The HTML I posted is what I want it to look like. (minus the red borders, which are just to show the tables) The 'left column' has to stretch to fill the space. The actual content, that's 750px wide, should always be centered, and the colours on the left adjusting to fill the space.

Re: [css-d] Centered Layout + attached to left edge. Possible with CSS at all?

Hi Jim, That's almost there. The challenge i'm facing is how to get the rows to go flush to the left edge. What you've done there has got everything spot on up to that point. Do you think there's any way to persuade the those rows, to go flush to the left edge? Cheers, - Kevin On Fri, Sep 23,

Re: [css-d] Maybe OT: As it is Friday - have a free CSS template

Christian Heilmann wrote: I just had some very good news and I have this template lying around. Did it for a friend but it seems it'll never pull off anyway... http://www.wait-till-i.com/index.php?p=165 enjoy and good weekend thanks chris, and that's also for the book tip. dwain -- dwain

[css-d] Off Topic - stats

Hi All, I am as guilty as most of being drawn into off topic discussion. Often not actually realising that it is off topic. Sometimes I have been surprised that certain subjects have been allowed to run as I thought them off topic. So I re-read all the guidelines and then did an analysis of the

[css-d] textarea and printing

Hi all. Happy Friday :) I'm working on setting up a print version for an online QA evaluation form for my company. The problem i'm having, is that if the entered text is bigger than what the textarea can hold in physical shape/size, it obviously clips the text and is not printed. Whatever

[css-d] admin/wiki - google prepended to links

In Mozilla and SeaMonkey, and in Firefox after installation of the Chatzilla extension, entering the IRC URI irc://irc.mozilla.org/#css in the urlbar will cause the CSS channel on Moznet to open in Chatzilla. At http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?action=findfind=OffTopic at the bottom I want to add

Re: [css-d] Can I style generated content?

On 23/09/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to style generated text? a.left-arrow:before { content: ; color: blue; } -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.ukhttp://blog.dorward.me.uk __

RE: [css-d] textarea and printing

I have done this - in the css for Print media I simply set the div that scrolls to not have overflow in it - see my site: https://webdb.princeton.edu/dbtoolbox/query.asp?qname=scadmembers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Cummiskey

Re: [css-d] Centered Layout + attached to left edge. Possible with CSS at all?

Kevin, The rows will go flush to the left and right if the borders are removed and the width is changed from 99.8% to 100%. Perhaps I don't understand you design objective. Jim On 9/23/05, Kevin Cannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jim, That's almost there. The challenge i'm facing is how to

Re: [css-d] Can I style generated content?

On 9/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to style generated text? /* Example: CSS */ a { font-family: arial; color: red; text-decoration: none; } a.left-arrow:before { content: ; } You can style generated content in standards-compliant

Re: [css-d] Why doesn't this page work?

Nancy Smith wrote: I cannot believe how hard CSS is. I am ready to give up. What am I doing wrong? http://www.wminc.biz/newpage.htm Can anyone help me? Works on my end? http://www.dlaakso.com/sandbox/mech.html and: Captures: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=193127

Re: [css-d] textarea and printing

Brian, have you used a different style sheet specifically for printed material (print/css)? On 9/23/05, Julie Angarone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have done this - in the css for Print media I simply set the div that scrolls to not have overflow in it - see my site:

Re: [css-d] Centered Layout + attached to left edge. Possible with CSS at all?

On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 07:34:02AM -0700, Jim Davis wrote: Kevin, The rows will go flush to the left and right if the borders are removed and the width is changed from 99.8% to 100%. Perhaps I don't understand you design objective. I didn't explain well. You haven't got a background color

[css-d] space in BLOCK links in IE

I started working on restyling my company's website because the origional web designer simply used antiquated markup. I decided on using Mark Newhouse's 3col layout in the wiki to achieve the same layout, but without the table. I ran across a problem when I made the list items block level

Re: [css-d] textarea and printing

Josue Martinez wrote: Brian, have you used a different style sheet specifically for printed material (print/css)? yes. i have a main.css for media = screen and a print.css for media=print On 9/23/05, Julie Angarone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have done this - in the css for Print media I

Re: [css-d] space in BLOCK links in IE

Jeff Rechten wrote: IE puts ridiculous spaces above and below the links, breaking up a beautiful menu. I was wondering if anyone could help me solve this problem. maybe this article will help: http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/15/emreallyem-undoing-htmlcss/

Re: [css-d] Can I style generated content?

On 23/09/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to style generated text? a.left-arrow:before { content: ; color: blue; } OK, I must have missed a typo earlier, I couldn't get that working, but it is indeed making the generate the color I want. I also encountered a

Re: [css-d] space in BLOCK links in IE

Jeff Rechten wrote: IE puts ridiculous spaces above and below the links, breaking up a beautiful menu. http://www.alumitank.com/test/warranty.htm An old IE-bug... Adding a 'hasLayout'[1] trigger... #leftcol ul li a {_height: 0;} ...will cure it in your case. Tested in IE6. regards

Re: [css-d] textarea and printing

var textareasp=[]; function convertToPrint() { var i, n, tTs, nE; tTs=gETN('textarea'); for(n=tTs.length, i=0; in; i++) { nE=cE('p', '', 'textareabox', tTs.value); tTs.parentNode.insertBefore(nE, tTs); nE.from=tTs; textareasp.push(tTs); tTs.style.display='none'; } } function

[css-d] Horizontal Menu question

Hello, I have a question to end my desperate efforts building the css for my site. Site: http://www.glorybox.de/temp/index.html CSS: http://www.glorybox.de/temp/css/main.css Screenshot IE: http://www.glorybox.de/temp/ie.jpg Screenshot Firefox: http://www.glorybox.de/temp/moz.jpg * Firefox

Re: [css-d] Forms

* Rob Cochrane [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-09-23 01:20]: Alan Gutierrez wrote: A newbie question on styling forms. A structure question... What elements do I use to markup structure? DL/DT/DD? UL/LI? For me label is a pretty logical way of marking up forms along with

RE: [css-d] Horizontal Menu question

* Where does this gap come in front of the menu items? It comes from a default padding (in ff) and margin (in ie) on the ul. This should fix it: #bread ul { margin-left: 0; padding-left: 0; } While IE does not display the bottom border. How can I achieve the same on IE? Perhaps changing the

[css-d] Problem with column not floating

Hi all, I'm new to CSS, and this is my first post to the list, so apologies in advance if I miss any of the rules... I've created a 3-column layout (with header and footer) based on Ryan Brill's article in ALA on negative margins. The layout works fine in FF, but not in IE. Some of the pages

[css-d] Background image for a tag problem in IE6

Howdy, I've set up a background image with a small arrow on hyper links in my navigation. This works fine in Firefox and other Gecko browsers but I can't get it to render in IE6. Here is a page that uses it graphic-arts-schools.com/find.php http://www.graphic-arts-schools.com/find.php

Re: [css-d] Horizontal Menu question

* CJ Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This should fix it: #bread ul { margin-left: 0; padding-left: 0; } It does fix it. Thank you. While IE does not display the bottom border. How can I achieve the same on IE? Perhaps changing the height of your #bread is possible? If so, try adding the

Re: [css-d] textarea and printing

Friday, September 23, 2005, 10:13:44 AM, Brian wrote: the textarea can hold in physical shape/size, it obviously clips the text and is not printed. Whatever is in the scrolling part of the box This may fail miserably, but in your print CSS you might try: textarea {height:auto;

[css-d] Why does the one graphic not show up for SOME?

Thanks to Norm Loewen, Julie Angarone, and Richard Brown for taking a look at http://covinahigh68.com/testing.htm on Macs with various browsers and reporting what they saw. There should be a banner across the top, gradiating from white at the left to red at the right. Superimposed on

Re: [css-d] Problem with column not floating

Erik Domingo wrote: I've created a 3-column layout (with header and footer) based on Ryan Brill's article in ALA on negative margins. The layout works fine in FF, but not in IE. Some of the pages (when viewed in IE) have the right column (#sidebar) not floating within the container element

RE: [css-d] Why doesn't this page work?

I cannot believe how hard CSS is. I am ready to give up. Don't give up Nancy. CSS isn't easy but it is worth the effort to learn. And don't let the expertise on this list fool you. At some point, we were all beginners. The more I learn about CSS the more I know I don't know. What am I doing

Re: [css-d] Problem with column not floating

Erik Domingo wrote: Some of the pages (when viewed in IE) have the right column (#sidebar) not floating within the container element (#wrapper). It's forcing the #sidebar element below the container, as if there's a .clear being invoked. You can see this bad behavior at

Re: [css-d] Re: Dropdowns in inline elements, and CSS validator problems

From: Sam Partington [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.luusac.org.uk/calendar.html?new_menu Now I've come across a strange IE glitch, where IE renders one of the months (August) twice, even though its in the markup only once. Any ideas? I don't know why this works (all I did was try a few things),

Re: [css-d] Problem with column not floating

Erik, I like the layout but I think you may need more contrast on this website, especially if some of your users will be elderly. Erik Domingo wrote: Some of the pages (when viewed in IE) have the right column (#sidebar) not floating within the container element (#wrapper). It's forcing the

Re: [css-d] Newcomer to CSS

From: Nancy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did my first CSS site, and I am ready to go back to tables Please look at my site and tell me what I did wrong. I feel like such a looser - all that work and it the CSS doesn't work. http://www.wminc.biz Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Re: [css-d] Background image for a tag problem in IE6

Hi Rich, from your css: #header ul li a { color: #FF; display: block; font-variant:small-caps; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bolder; font-size: .9em; padding: 0 0 0px 20px; margin: 0px 0 0 0; text-align: left; background: url(../images/chrome/arrow_bullet.gif) no-repeat scroll left

Re: [css-d] Why does the one graphic not show up for SOME?

Guy K. Haas wrote: http://covinahigh68.com/testing.htm Can anyone explain why the white colt is not visible for some? Check what screen/window-size they use. The white colt disappears into the white background at width:1400, and reappears slightly at around width:1546. So you need to define