[css-d] ul breaks up in Explorer

2006-05-11 Thread M S
Hello, I'm fairly new to CSS and was testing a page I made. It looks fine in Firefox and Safari on a Mac. It has a few spacing differences in Opera, but I can live with them. But in Windows Explorer 6 the navigation list - which is a styled ul - breaks up. I was wondering if anyone can tell me

[css-d] Why IE does not understand my CSS? :-)

2006-05-11 Thread Michel Bozgounov
Hi! I have created a simple language selector in a webpage. Clicking either on EN or DE forwards the user to the English or German version of a webpage. I use the following CSS code: /* language DIV - it's positioned inside relatively positioned #header */ #lang { position: absolute; top:

[css-d] PS

2006-05-11 Thread Michel Bozgounov
Sorry, missed one line: #language a span {position: absolute; top: -px; right: 20px;} #language a:hover span {position: absolute; top: 50px; right: 0; border: 1px solid white; text-indent: 0;} It works when there's text-indent specified (but IE, still doesn't work... :( M.

Re: [css-d] ul breaks up in Explorer

2006-05-11 Thread Sebastian Dammark
Try this instead: #navigation ul ul { list-style-type: none; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; } // Sebastian Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] på vegne af M S Sendt: to 11-05-2006 13:09 Til: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Emne: [css-d] ul breaks up in Explorer Hello,

Re: [css-d] ul breaks up in Explorer

2006-05-11 Thread Dave Goodchild
Also, try not to use the Tantek box model hack, which is considered rather ugly and redundant these days. The modified simplified box model hack is cleaner, for example: * html #content { width: 80px; w\idth: 100px; } html #content { width: 100px; padding: 10px; } On 11/05/06, Sebastian Dammark

Re: [css-d] ul breaks up in Explorer

2006-05-11 Thread M S
On 11/05/06, Sebastian Dammark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try this instead: #navigation ul ul { list-style-type: none; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; } Oh, but I actually want the nested lists to be indented to the left like that. No, the break up I'm talking about can be seen as a horizontal

Re: [css-d] ul breaks up in Explorer

2006-05-11 Thread Darren Fauth
David, This may be a rather old fashioned solution anymore...it's how I've fixed it for a long time. In your HTML get rid of all the whitespace in the list in question. So that it looks like this: ullia hreAbout the.../a/liullia hre...About us/a/li/ul For whatever reason that

Re: [css-d] ul breaks up in Explorer

2006-05-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
M S wrote: [...] But in Windows Explorer 6 the navigation list - which is a styled ul - breaks up. I was wondering if anyone can tell me why? http://homepage.eircom.net/~mika/recipes/index.html IE/win need its 'hasLayout'[1] triggers. Add... #navigation ul li, #navigation ul li a {height:

[css-d] IE6 serve one page everything else another

2006-05-11 Thread Richard Gilmore
Hi Everyone, I¹m working on our site and I¹ve got a problem. I¹ve got a box and some info that looks good and works in Firefox Mac/PC and Safari but doesn¹t look right in IE6 unless I tweak it and then it¹s not right in FF etc... Now perhaps there¹s a way to format the box to look right in IE and

Re: [css-d] IE6 serve one page everything else another

2006-05-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Richard Gilmore wrote: [...] I think making two versions is the only way I¹m going make it look right unless the collective genius of this list can help. I think separate versions is /the very last/ option to consider. However, in order to look for better options, a link to your

[css-d] Disapearing Text In IE 6

2006-05-11 Thread David Merwin
The issue is in IE 6. The page renders and as it is coming up I can see teh text on the page, but when all the graphics are applied, the text disappears. Really strange. The graphics and backgrounds in the div, so I am not sure why it is doing it. Site in

Re: [css-d] Disapearing Text In IE 6

2006-05-11 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] The issue is in IE 6. The page renders and as it is coming up I can see teh text on the page, but when all the graphics are applied, the text disappears. Really strange. The graphics and backgrounds in the div, so I am not sure why it is doing it. [/snip] IE Peek-a-boo bug strikes

[css-d] ugly IE effect with submenu (ul li:hover state)

2006-05-11 Thread Alberto Stracuzzi
Hi everyone. I combined a css with peterned's csshover.htc (IE 6 doesn't understand the pseudoclass :hover - http://www.xs4all.nl/~peterned/csshover.html ) You can see my site: http://segramm.dsi.unimi.it It works fine until the second submenu or, better, with IE it works fine until the first

Re: [css-d] IE6 serve one page everything else another

2006-05-11 Thread Richard Gilmore
Hi again, Sorry here's a url to the page. I could live with it being off in IE as compared to FF it's not too bad but I want to impress so I'd really like it to be better. The text is lower down in IE and I've been able to make it go higher in IE but only to break it in FF. Fixing it in one

Re: [css-d] PS

2006-05-11 Thread Mark Szymanski
Michel Bozgounov wrote: Sorry, missed one line: #language a span {position: absolute; top: -px; right: 20px;} #language a:hover span {position: absolute; top: 50px; right: 0; border: 1px solid white; text-indent: 0;} It works when there's text-indent specified (but IE, still doesn't

Re: [css-d] IE6 serve one page everything else another

2006-05-11 Thread Richard Gilmore
Hi there, Sorry if this comes to you twice. Here's the url. The text is lower down in IE than FF while it's not huge I want to impress so I'd like it to look as good and professional as possible on as many platforms as possible. One other thing that's not critical is in Safari the purple

[css-d] Nav area hiding under masthead

2006-05-11 Thread Tom McNeer
Hi, I'll prefix my message by noting that I'm very much in the mode of learning proper, and effective, CSS. And I can use a little help on a layout I'm building. It's located at http://www.mediumcool.com/test/layouttest.html.http://www.mediumcool.com/test/layouttest.html It's based around one of

Re: [css-d] Nav area hiding under masthead

2006-05-11 Thread Ian Young
partially hidden by the masthead image. The flow of the divs seems correct to me. And the footer element, which is styled in the same manner as the nav element, appears correctly below the three-column content area. I can't figure out why the way the footer and nav areas appear is different.

[css-d] Site Check - LittleAndReid.com Ver 2

2006-05-11 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
Dear All: It's redesign...or realign time, as Cameron Moll would say. http://littleandreid.com/ver2/ Thoughts? I compromise on my ideals - it's moving fixed from em-based; I have provided two fixed-width layouts (Normal and Wide(r)} with a nice little stylesheet switcher a-la Dan Cederholms'

Re: [css-d] ugly IE effect with submenu (ul li:hover state)

2006-05-11 Thread Robert O'Rourke
Alberto Stracuzzi wrote: Hi everyone. I combined a css with peterned's csshover.htc (IE 6 doesn't understand the pseudoclass :hover - http://www.xs4all.nl/~peterned/csshover.html ) You can see my site: http://segramm.dsi.unimi.it It works fine until the second submenu or, better, with IE it

Re: [css-d] IE6 serve one page everything else another

2006-05-11 Thread Shawn Lawler
Here's a quick 'n dirty possibility: You'll notice that I changed your markup a bit (it was screaming to be put into a list). Forgive me for pasting all this code here ;] Tested in: Windows(Firefox 1.5.0.3, IE 6, Netscape 7.1) style type=text/css body {font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica,

[css-d] Universal reset of margins and padding: Which technique do you prefer?

2006-05-11 Thread Micky Hulse
Hi all. Which is better... this: /* Zero-out margins and padding for all elements: */ * { margin: 0; padding: 0; } Or this: /* Avove same as saying: */ body,div,dl,dt,dd,ul,ol,li,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,pre,form,fieldset,input,p,blockquote,th,td{margin:0;padding:0;} I prefer the first,

Re: [css-d] Universal reset of margins and padding: Which technique do you prefer?

2006-05-11 Thread Jade Rauenzahn
Definately the first. The second way in which you are doing that is very tedious and it's really just an unnecessary use of code. The * is a universal selector and will cancel all those elements, plus any you might have missed. __

Re: [css-d] Various open source CSS stuff from Yahoo!

2006-05-11 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Alex Robinson wrote: Yahoo! have been very busy and in addition to updating their ui widget library, they have now added several bits which should be of interest to the list. CSS Grids http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/ This is how the !DOCTYPE to use is suggested: !-- layouts

Re: [css-d] Universal reset of margins and padding: Which technique do you prefer?

2006-05-11 Thread Christian Montoya
On 5/11/06, Micky Hulse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /* Zero-out margins and padding for all elements: */ * { margin: 0; padding: 0; } I used to advocate this, but have since moved on to my own version of Faruk's initial.css: http://kurafire.net/log/archive/2005/07/26/starting-css-revisited I

Re: [css-d] Universal reset of margins and padding: Which technique do you prefer?

2006-05-11 Thread Christy Collins
On May 11, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Christian Montoya wrote: As a result, buttons don't behave like buttons anymore, and so forth. I never really noticed that, which only goes to show that I'm no longer used to buttons behaving like buttons. I did some research in this, and as it turned out, most

Re: [css-d] Universal reset of margins and padding: Which techniquedo you prefer?

2006-05-11 Thread Shawn Lawler
From the comments section of that article: #21 . Faruk Ateş . Sep 7, 2005 (16:18) Dean, If you click on a default, square button, it'll invert the bevel and move the text slightly to make it appear as if you've actually pushed it in, pushed it deeper. Using the * selector removes that

Re: [css-d] Universal reset of margins and padding: Which techniquedo you prefer?

2006-05-11 Thread Donna Casey
Shawn Lawler wrote: Using the * selector removes that functionality, and when you then click a button, it'll not look as if you're pushing it in. which isn't as easily fixed as one might think, as some browsers manage this differently than others. Better to not break this functionality for

[css-d] left-margin diff between FF and IE

2006-05-11 Thread Michel Sabatino
Hi. I have a problem with this simple code. I see it differently on Ie than on Firefox. Left-margin seems much higher on Firefox. Help appreciated. Thanks. Michel. style type=text/css html { margin: 0; padding: 0; } #notizie { background: #CC; margin: 5px; padding: 5px; width: 150px; }

Re: [css-d] IE6 serve one page everything else another

2006-05-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Richard Gilmore wrote: I could live with it being off in IE as compared to FF it's not too bad but I want to impress so I'd really like it to be better. The text is lower down in IE and I've been able to make it go higher in IE but only to break it in FF. Fixing it in one browser just

[css-d] Question about ID vs Class

2006-05-11 Thread Anthony Papillion II
Hello Everyone, I'm fairly new to CSS and brand new to the list (just joined today). I was going through a CSS tutorial and came across an subject I'm not sure I fully understand. ID vs Class. As I interpret it, a class can only be used within the HTML element it is linked to (i.e.p

Re: [css-d] Universal reset of margins and padding: Which techniquedo you prefer?

2006-05-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Using the * selector removes that functionality, and when you then click a button, it'll not look as if you're pushing it in. which isn't as easily fixed as one might think, as some browsers manage this differently than others. Better to not break this functionality for the sake of a few

Re: [css-d] Question about ID vs Class

2006-05-11 Thread Shawn Lawler
Here ya go mate: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ClassesVsIds You may want to visit the Wiki before posting a message to the list. It will likely save you some time ;) Shawn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Papillion II

Re: [css-d] Question about ID vs Class

2006-05-11 Thread Sebastian Dammark
ID's must be unique through the html document. Classes can be reused on serveral tags // Sebastian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Papillion II Sent: 11. maj 2006 22:31 To: CSS Discussion List Subject: [css-d] Question about ID vs

Re: [css-d] Question about ID vs Class

2006-05-11 Thread Dave Goodchild
An id can only be used once on a page and is generally used to identify structural elements ie: div id=header whereas a class can be used multiple times ie: p class=news ul class=itemlist ...pretty basic stuff, best to get a good css book and study it well. On 11/05/06, Anthony Papillion II

Re: [css-d] Universal reset of margins and padding: Which technique do you prefer?

2006-05-11 Thread Micky Hulse
Hi all! :) Thanks for the great info. You guys/gals rock! As always, thanks for sharing your tips, tricks, and techniques - much appreciated. Cheers, Micky __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] Universal reset of margins and padding: Which technique do you prefer?

2006-05-11 Thread Micky Hulse
Main reason why I asked was due to Alex Robinson's post on Yahoo UI widget library... in the reset CSS[1] Yahoo decided not to do the universal selector... CSS Grids http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/ CSS Fonts http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/fonts/ [1] CSS Reset

Re: [css-d] left-margin diff between FF and IE

2006-05-11 Thread Shawn Lawler
Add [padding-left:0;] to [#notizie ul] get rid of that extra left spacing in FF. /* It looks like you may eventually want to remove the list bullets as well. If that's the case, add [list-style:none;]. */ Put it all together and you have this: #notizie ul { margin: 0 0 0 8px;

[css-d] Thanks!

2006-05-11 Thread Anthony Papillion II
Just wanted to send a big thank you to all who responded to my question. I understand ID vs Class a LOT better now... Anthony __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub

[css-d] missing navbar and dropping text...

2006-05-11 Thread Dave Pierce
Hi again, newbie here. On this homepage, http://www.lorettosedgwick.org/ it looks fine in all of the Mac browsers, but IE/Win does it dirty. The navigation bar, just below and directly centered under the Loretto Sedgwick logo, disappears. And on the test page,

Re: [css-d] Universal reset of margins and padding: Which technique do you prefer?

2006-05-11 Thread Tim Martens
Expanding on Tantek's earlier developments, http://tantek.com/log/2004/09.html#d06t2354 our esteemed list mom writes about this here: http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/15/emreallyem-undoing- htmlcss/ What follows is Tantek's undohtml.css along with a few of my own additions: /*

Re: [css-d] Universal reset of margins and padding: Which technique do you prefer?

2006-05-11 Thread Micky Hulse
Sweet! Thanks for sharing. :D Cheers, Micky __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ --

[css-d] Couple of questions: Layout

2006-05-11 Thread Mark Fellowes
I thought I had it all down pat after 3 weeks of reading but now not so sure ;) I've been working on this layout which is basically a two column fixed width using floats. http://www.pamshop.com/Template1/exp8.html Now I'm wondering if I'd be better off using absolute positioning instead.

Re: [css-d] Couple of questions: Layout

2006-05-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Mark Fellowes wrote: http://www.pamshop.com/Template1/exp8.html Now I'm wondering if I'd be better off using absolute positioning instead. The thing is I wanted to see what it would look like if I made content2 760px. It threw the side navigation to the bottom. So without getting into

[css-d] @import media rule

2006-05-11 Thread jack fredricks
Hi all, I've done a bit of a google - with no luck..so I thought I'd mozie on over here... I can't seem to get this rule to work on IE6 or FF; @import url(fineprint.css) print; http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/cascade.html#at-import The file and the file location are fine (a standard LINK element

Re: [css-d] missing navbar and dropping text...

2006-05-11 Thread David Laakso
Dave Pierce wrote: On this homepage, http://www.lorettosedgwick.org/ it looks fine in all of the Mac browsers, but IE/Win does it dirty. The navigation bar, just below and directly centered under the Loretto Sedgwick logo, disappears. And on the test page,

Re: [css-d] @import media rule

2006-05-11 Thread Robert O'Rourke
jack fredricks wrote: Hi all, I've done a bit of a google - with no luck..so I thought I'd mozie on over here... I can't seem to get this rule to work on IE6 or FF; @import url(fineprint.css) print; http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/cascade.html#at-import The file and the file location are

Re: [css-d] @import media rule

2006-05-11 Thread jack fredricks
lo, Had the same issue recently, IE and surprisingly FF don't seem to support that structure unfortunately, To select media specific css i used the link element and just a normal @import rule for the main css, ah well :( You could always try @media print { @import

Re: [css-d] Why IE does not understand my CSS? :-)

2006-05-11 Thread David Hucklesby
On Thu, 11 May 2006 14:18:05 +0300, Michel Bozgounov wrote: [code (part)] #lang a span {position: absolute; top: -px; right: 20px;} #lang a:hover span {position: absolute; top: 50px; right: 0;} ... But IE does not display the [SPAN] ... when I mouseover the words EN / DE. ... What am