Re: [css-d] EM's, Images, sperling.com, /16? Please advise.

2006-10-19 Thread Ian Young
Subject: Re: [css-d] EM's, Images, sperling.com, /16? Please advise. Micky Hulse wrote: Some of the folks who posted comments in below article/post seem to think that it is not a good idea to use EM's for layout if dealing with images, unknowns, and precision is needed: Georg

Re: [css-d] EM's, Images, sperling.com, /16? Please advise.

2006-10-19 Thread Micky Hulse
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: regards Georg WOW! Great info Georg! Many many many thanks for you response. :) You have really cleared things up for me. I have yet to do a layout in EM's myself, but I can't wait to find the right job for such a layout. I was hoping to use EM's for layout at my

Re: [css-d] CSS Gallery from database

2006-10-19 Thread Ian Young
Ian Nicholls gallery is an attractive little visual package-- although not great on the usability and accessibility end. An I-frame gallery can be handsome and is valid providing a 'transitional' doctype is used. There are, of course, javascript/php alternatives, some of them

Re: [css-d] IE7 Released

2006-10-19 Thread Ian Young
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Wheeler Sent: 19 October 2006 05:08 To: CSS List Subject: Re: [css-d] IE7 Released Ok... So is there a way to run IE7 and at least IE6 on the same box? Mark Yes, is short answer. See my

Re: [css-d] IE7 Released

2006-10-19 Thread Richard Allsebrook
The official 'Microsofty' way of doing it is to run a virtual machine and install IE6 under a virtual OS. Mark Wheeler wrote: Ok... So is there a way to run IE7 and at least IE6 on the same box? Mark -- On Oct 18, 2006, at 7:34 PM, Mike Soultanian wrote: Well, it

Re: [css-d] IE7 Released

2006-10-19 Thread Fora
I have used the configuration for 10 months now with few problems - none that I would be worried about. Figured my question wasn't really CSS stuff, which is why I asked off-list. I'm running standalone versions of IE5.0 and 5.5, too, without problems, but I've had some configurational

[css-d] margin ok, but bouncing menu

2006-10-19 Thread Raffaele Guaitoli
I have a proble with this left menu http://www.formazioneazienda.it. the ul li a:hover state is set to have 1px solid border but when you hover over it bounces down. any suggestion to keep the border and avoid the noisy effect? __

[css-d] Suckerfish over images in IE looses block definition

2006-10-19 Thread Ido dekkers
for some strange ( or to me at least) reason, IE removes the block display definition from the list items in the drop down menu when they are over an image. if you look here : http://test3.dekkers.net/ you can see that in the home and about pages, you can catch the first item in the drop down if

Re: [css-d] Suckerfish over images in IE looses block definition

2006-10-19 Thread Ian Young
Sent: 19 October 2006 11:34 To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: [css-d] Suckerfish over images in IE looses block definition for some strange ( or to me at least) reason, IE removes the block display definition from the list items in the drop down menu when they are over an image.

Re: [css-d] Site check please - IE problem......

2006-10-19 Thread Pieter Botha
On 10/19/06, francky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pieter Botha wrote: Hello everyone. Please check this site for me: http://kusile.cojjoconnect.co.za I have a little problem in IE... The dark green header bar (h1 with background color applied) should touch the menu bar, there is a small

[css-d] Site check www.ukagriculture.com

2006-10-19 Thread Trevor Boult
Hi All, I have updated our agriculture site to css standard. www.ukagriculture.com All seems well on different browsers (browsershots.org) but would interested to hear peoples opinions on the site so far, fonts sizes etc being a particular issue as the spec seems to change day-by-day. Many

Re: [css-d] Site check www.ukagriculture.com

2006-10-19 Thread Barney Carroll
Clean-looking and valid site, Trevor. What stands out is semantic coherence - The UK's top agriculture, food and farming resource is the title of the main content block, which seems wrong. Surely this is the site motto, and should be somewhere below the title but not part, and certainly not

Re: [css-d] Site check www.ukagriculture.com

2006-10-19 Thread Ian Young
To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: [css-d] Site check www.ukagriculture.com Hi All, I have updated our agriculture site to css standard. www.ukagriculture.com All seems well on different browsers (browsershots.org) but would interested to hear peoples opinions on the site so far,

Re: [css-d] margin ok, but bouncing menu

2006-10-19 Thread Roger Roelofs
Raffaele, On Oct 19, 2006, at 5:10 AM, Raffaele Guaitoli wrote: I have a proble with this left menu http://www.formazioneazienda.it. the ul li a:hover state is set to have 1px solid border but when you hover over it bounces down. any suggestion to keep the border and avoid the noisy effect?

Re: [css-d] Site check www.ukagriculture.com

2006-10-19 Thread Trevor Boult
Many thanks for everyone's comments. I was a bit taken back with the page encoding error on HTML validation (sure I've never seen it before), seems I have fix for it though. I guess on the other errors, ie duplicate div names (didn't think this was an issue) I will have to make classes

Re: [css-d] Making my FIRST fully compliant site! (and losing)

2006-10-19 Thread francky
Jon Hughes wrote: I am a graphic designer aspiring to be a web developer. [...] I didn't think it (css) would be this hard! [...] Hi Jon, It is this hard indeed! But going on step by step somewhere you'll reach a point where the basics are enough to make pages doing what you want. :-) And most

Re: [css-d] IE7 release

2006-10-19 Thread Kenoli Oleari
Amazing, they finally installed tabs. Isn't Microsoft extraordinary! Does anyone know anything about the relationship between this version and CSS and other web standards? There is nothing I could see on the Microsoft introductory site that mentions this. I guess it's not surprising

Re: [css-d] Moving divs up page

2006-10-19 Thread ed gooddy
Thank you very much for the detailed reply Georg. I will go through them and see what happens and try to understand it all, thanks again Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ed gooddy wrote: http://www.villa-corti.com/menus.htm The image divs are all in the right place but the

[css-d] [ADMIN - OFF TOPIC] Re: IE7 release

2006-10-19 Thread Alex Robinson
Amazing, they finally installed tabs. Isn't Microsoft extraordinary! ... Maybe it'll run so badly that people will finally stop using IE entirely. ... Or is this going to mean one more web browser to fix things for. I guess Microsoft could keep issuing browsers that were less and less compliant

Re: [css-d] IE7 release

2006-10-19 Thread Rob O'Rourke
Kenoli Oleari wrote: Amazing, they finally installed tabs. Isn't Microsoft extraordinary! Does anyone know anything about the relationship between this version and CSS and other web standards? There is nothing I could see on the Microsoft introductory site that mentions this. I guess

[css-d] IE7 Workaround Methods

2006-10-19 Thread Al Sparber
We published this Tech Note for our customers, but it should be helpful to anyone using CSS for layout: http://www.projectseven.com/support/answers.asp?id=181 -- Al Sparber PVII http://www.projectseven.com Designing with CSS is sometimes like barreling down a crumbling mountain road at 90

Re: [css-d] [ADMIN - OFF TOPIC] Re: IE7 release

2006-10-19 Thread Mark J. Reed
snip Kenoli's rant OK, IE7 may just have been officially released this week, but it's been available for download as a beta for months and months. There have been several discussions about its capabilities on this list, and there's a dediated discussion board here:

[css-d] [ADMIN - OFF TOPIC] Re: IE7 release

2006-10-19 Thread Eric A. Meyer
At 4:29 PM +0100 10/19/06, Alex Robinson wrote: So people, just a word to encourage people to discuss the practical issues that IE7 throws up and to remind you all of the existence of the IE7 page on the wiki. But let's lay off the whole $COMPANY rants please. I'd just like to second that.

Re: [css-d] IE7 Workaround Methods

2006-10-19 Thread Eric A. Meyer
At 11:36 AM -0400 10/19/06, Al Sparber wrote: We published this Tech Note for our customers, but it should be helpful to anyone using CSS for layout: http://www.projectseven.com/support/answers.asp?id=181 Excellent. Thanks, Al! I'd love to see a note or article that explores the

Re: [css-d] [ADMIN - OFF TOPIC] Re: IE7 release

2006-10-19 Thread Phil Holt
Is there any way of running IE7 or earlier on a Mac? Phil On 19/10/06 16:39, Mark J. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Kenoli's rant OK, IE7 may just have been officially released this week, but it's been available for download as a beta for months and months. There have been several

Re: [css-d] [ADMIN - OFF TOPIC] Re: IE7 release

2006-10-19 Thread Mark J. Reed
On 10/19/06, Phil Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way of running IE7 or earlier on a Mac? There used to be a Mac version of IE, but it's no longer supported. You can, of course, run IE with any of the various solutions for running a full Windows environment on your Mac - such as

[css-d] IE stepping floats

2006-10-19 Thread Christy Collins
http://www.loudjoy.com/ChampSite/ http://www.loudjoy.com/ChampSite/base.css http://www.loudjoy.com/ChampSite/ie.css I'm working with the navigation on this page - it looks perfect on mac/Firefox and Safari IE6 is making steps out of the navigation bar (which consists of the 2 large buttons

Re: [css-d] IE7 Workaround Methods

2006-10-19 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Al Sparber wrote: We published this Tech Note for our customers, but it should be helpful to anyone using CSS for layout: Al, Is there a reason why you use zoom:100% rather than zoom:1 or is it just a matter of preference? --- Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com

Re: [css-d] Layout differences in IE/FireFox (Win) gasp WRT Fieldset

2006-10-19 Thread Glenn E. Lanier, II
-Original Message- From: Glenn E. Lanier, II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:06 PM From: Glenn E. Lanier, II Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 4:36 PM Original Post: http://lists.css-discuss.org/mailman/private/css-d/2006-Octobe r/070167.html

[css-d] Clickable area around link

2006-10-19 Thread William Graeber
I have a website at http://www.swilly.tk that I am currently working on. The site looks fine in both IE and Firefox (minus the one dotted place underlining the links on the right), however there is a small problem with user interaction. In the link list on the right I would ideally like the whole

Re: [css-d] IE7 Workaround Methods

2006-10-19 Thread Al Sparber
From: Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Al, Is there a reason why you use zoom:100% rather than zoom:1 or is it just a matter of preference? Habit and preference. And it stands out more for people unaccustomed to using that particular (proprietary) property. -- Al

Re: [css-d] Layout differences in IE/FireFox (Win) gasp WRTFieldset

2006-10-19 Thread James Leslie
I believe that the doctype has to be in capitals as below: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd; James Thanks to ~dL, it's up and running. I removed the two [seemingly minor] validation issues (type not specified on

Re: [css-d] Layout differences in IE/FireFox (Win) gaspWRTFieldset

2006-10-19 Thread Glenn E. Lanier, II
From: James Leslie Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:53 AM and a MS-only body attribute. Tidy finds no problems, but W3C validator complains about no doctype -- odd, since the very first line of the HTML file is: !doctype html public -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN

Re: [css-d] IE7 Workaround Methods

2006-10-19 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Al Sparber wrote: From: Thierry Koblentz Al, Is there a reason why you use zoom:100% rather than zoom:1 or is it just a matter of preference? Habit and preference. And it stands out more for people unaccustomed to using that particular (proprietary) property. Thanks --- Regards, Thierry

[css-d] FYI: IE 7 and the Web Accessibility Toolbar

2006-10-19 Thread Thierry Koblentz
After the IE 7 update some options may trigger Access is Denied alert boxes. Re-installing the product seems to fix the issue. [1] http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/info.aspx?page=614 --- Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com __

[css-d] big gap in ie6 - on text resize

2006-10-19 Thread Maren Child
http://www.biotext.com.au When I increase the text size in the browser (large or largest) in ie6, some of the pages on this site still get a huge gap at the top of the page. I thought it might be because of the really long text in links causing a non-breaking long line, but took them out and it

[css-d] update on big gap in ie6

2006-10-19 Thread Maren Child
Actually, on my computer at least, the big gap in the Biotext pages appears when I resize the text to anything except smallest or medium. Maren __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d

Re: [css-d] IE stepping floats

2006-10-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Christy Collins wrote: http://www.loudjoy.com/ChampSite/ IE6 is making steps out of the navigation bar (which consists of the 2 large buttons and the search box). I've tried applying dimensions to each element in case it is a hasLayout issue with no luck. It is correct that IE6' problem

Re: [css-d] Clickable area around link

2006-10-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
William Graeber wrote: http://www.swilly.tk In the link list on the right I would ideally like the whole box containing the link to be clickable in IE. It has been a while since I have worked on the site, but I believe I originally achieved this with display: block for firefox. Add...

[css-d] Extra-space after frame in Firefox and Opera

2006-10-19 Thread Alicia C
Hey! I'm having a little problem here with Firefox. This is the layout: http://helekins.sites.uol.com.br/ It works fine in Internet Explorer, but in both Firefox and Opera I see some extra-space after the main frame and the menu. The page is supposed to end when the menu and the main frame end.

Re: [css-d] Extra-space after frame in Firefox and Opera

2006-10-19 Thread Don Miller
Why do you need the horizontal scroll? (Win98 IE6) Can't you decrease the frame and font size to at least fit a 1024 screen? Don - Original Message - From: Alicia C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:12 PM Subject: [css-d] Extra-space

Re: [css-d] Extra-space after frame in Firefox and Opera

2006-10-19 Thread Glenn E. Lanier, II
From: Alicia C Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:12 PM http://helekins.sites.uol.com.br/ It works fine in Internet Explorer, but in both Firefox and Opera I see some extra-space after the main frame and the menu. The page is supposed to end when the menu and the main frame end. Is

Re: [css-d] IE7 Workaround Methods

2006-10-19 Thread AG
The IE FAQ [http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/support/default.mspx} says that: Q. My favorite websites don't load correctly, or don't seem to work at all in Internet Explorer 7. What should I do? A.If you encounter a site which does not recognize Internet Explorer 7, a new tool known as the

Re: [css-d] Extra-space after frame in Firefox and Opera

2006-10-19 Thread Alicia C
I'm not exactly sure what is meant by the menu and after (horizontally, or vertically). However, you have set the height using inline styles on your div (id=frame) of 286px but declared your iframe to be 280px. Changing this 286 to 286 removes 6 pixels of vertical space. Also, you might try

Re: [css-d] Extra-space after frame in Firefox and Opera

2006-10-19 Thread Glenn E. Lanier, II
From: Alicia C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:55 PM I'm not exactly sure what is meant by the menu and after (horizontally, or vertically). However, you have set the height using inline styles on your div

Re: [css-d] Extra-space after frame in Firefox and Opera

2006-10-19 Thread ~davidLaakso
Alicia C wrote: Hey! I'm having a little problem here with Firefox. This is the layout: http://helekins.sites.uol.com.br/ It works fine in Internet Explorer, but in both Firefox and Opera I see some extra-space after the main frame and the menu. The page is supposed to end when the menu

Re: [css-d] Suckerfish over images in IE looses block definition

2006-10-19 Thread Ido dekkers
actually the problem is there both in IE6 and IE7, i just doenloaded the release version of 7, and it acts the same. and the menu does work in IE6, but only when there is no pic behind it. if you look at the contact page - it works as it should. oh, i know about the bag acting as a line -

Re: [css-d] Clickable area around link

2006-10-19 Thread William Graeber
What would be the most correct way to make this validate? I put it after a block of: voice-family: \}\; voice-family:inherit; In the link style - it fixed the problem and validates, but is this the most correct way of doing it? Thanks for the fix, William On 10/19/06, Gunlaug

Re: [css-d] Suckerfish over images in IE looses block definition

2006-10-19 Thread Ian Young
2:16 To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] Suckerfish over images in IE looses block definition actually the problem is there both in IE6 and IE7, i just doenloaded the release version of 7, and it acts the same. and the menu does work in IE6, but only when there is no

Re: [css-d] Extra-space after frame in Firefox and Opera

2006-10-19 Thread Alicia C
I rebuilt the whole thing and seems to be working now. http://www.freewebs.com/highwayjunkie/helekins.htm Thanks for your time and help. =) Alicia __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[css-d] son of suckerfish problems

2006-10-19 Thread Schalk Neethling
Greetings All, Please have a look at the following page in IE: http://www.jcislord.org/ http://www.jcislord.org/templates/jcil/css/template_css.css http://www.jcislord.org/templates/jcil/css/ie.css The problem is with the top navigation. You will see that the drop down menu's start way over to

[css-d] new css designer - comments please

2006-10-19 Thread Phil Turner
Hi and thanks everyone I've learnt a lot since subscribing comments on my latest creation please, I like many others am just getting the hang of this and would like to know if anyone else works quite slowly to create a good looking page, learning as they go??

[css-d] centering images

2006-10-19 Thread Linda Quinn
I must be missing something in centering images. The following CSS is set up to contain the contents of a page, and center the contents regardless of the size the browser window is set. #pagewrapper { min-width:780px; max-width:950px; margin-left:auto;

[css-d] h2 tags with padding don't hover properly

2006-10-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
see link below with two menus: - http://www.fatgraffix.com/hrblshop-dev/shop_dev19/ 1) in first menu, hover of main headings (h2 tags) work fine as long as zero padding is applied to the h2 tags 2) in second menu, hover of h2 tags don't catch the padded areas of the h2 tags seems that the

[css-d] floats, fieldsets, and margins

2006-10-19 Thread Matt Tibbits
Hello again, Still working on forms and running into a bit of a problem… I have a fieldset within a fieldset, I cannot put a top margin on the nested fieldset. Here’s a silly little example: HYPERLINK http://www.tibbits.ca/webdev/test.phphttp://www.tibbits.ca/webdev/test.php It

Re: [css-d] Extra-space after frame in Firefox and Opera

2006-10-19 Thread david
Alicia C wrote: I rebuilt the whole thing and seems to be working now. http://www.freewebs.com/highwayjunkie/helekins.htm Thanks for your time and help. =) What's the odd little notch of black way on the right side when I look at it in Firefox 1.5.0.7 on Linux? Screen capture here:

Re: [css-d] centering images

2006-10-19 Thread david
Linda Quinn wrote: I must be missing something in centering images. The following CSS is set up to contain the contents of a page, and center the contents regardless of the size the browser window is set. #pagewrapper { min-width:780px; max-width:950px;

Re: [css-d] Clickable area around link

2006-10-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
William Graeber wrote: What would be the most correct way to make this validate? I put it after a block of: voice-family: \}\; voice-family:inherit; In the link style - it fixed the problem and validates, but is this the most correct way of doing it? I'm not fond of the

Re: [css-d] centering images

2006-10-19 Thread Daniel
No it doesn't. david wrote: Does IE7 understand max- or min-width? __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List

Re: [css-d] centering images

2006-10-19 Thread david
Daniel wrote: No it doesn't. david wrote: Does IE7 understand max- or min-width? Then for IE7, it would think the original poster's container (with only max-width and min-width specified) has no width specified and default to auto, yes? -- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] authenticity, honesty,

Re: [css-d] centering images

2006-10-19 Thread Daniel
without a specific width it'll default to 100% or whatever the windows width is (someone could correct me if I'm wrong) so something like #pagewrapper { width:780px; min-width:780px; max-width:950px; margin: 0 auto inherent; /*not sure about the inherent*/ padding: 5px 0 0

Re: [css-d] centering images

2006-10-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Daniel wrote: without a specific width it'll default to 100% or whatever the windows width is (someone could correct me if I'm wrong) so something like #pagewrapper { width:780px; min-width:780px; max-width:950px; margin: 0 auto inherent; /*not sure about the inherent*/

Re: [css-d] h2 tags with padding don't hover properly

2006-10-19 Thread Roger Roelofs
Francis, On Oct 19, 2006, at 8:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - http://www.fatgraffix.com/hrblshop-dev/shop_dev19/ 1) in first menu, hover of main headings (h2 tags) work fine as long as zero padding is applied to the h2 tags 2) in second menu, hover of h2 tags don't catch the padded

Re: [css-d] centering images

2006-10-19 Thread Linda Quinn
Thanks for the followup discussion on min/max width in IE. Daniel's suggestion of adding a width declaration above the min/max width declarations does make the page look better in IE. Thanks! __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[css-d] row of images (varying heights) should align at bottom of div

2006-10-19 Thread Beate De Nijs
Hello, I've got several thumbnail images of different height (and widths) in a horizontal row. they should all align at the bottom of their thumbnailcontainer which has a fixed height. I've put them in a div id #thumbnailrow and tried with these settings: #thumbnailrow { text-align: center;