Re: [css-d] Firefox and page inflation

2014-04-10 Thread Philip Taylor
Someone wrote: I would like to hear your thoughts/recommendations on Mobile devices for clarification and advice? I consider them for the most part more toys than tools. I own no mobile device, and do not anticipate ever owning one. I leave here infrequently. I've been fueling my car about

Re: [css-d] Firefox and page inflation

2014-04-10 Thread Georg
Den 10.04.2014 12:24, skrev Philip Taylor: My thoughts regarding Mobile-first design is that it is putting the cart before the horse -- we should (IMHO) (a) be designing to W3C standards (and not designing to accommodate browser deficiencies), and (b) be designing to be flexible (so that no

Re: [css-d] Firefox and page inflation

2014-04-10 Thread MiB
apr 102014 12:36 Georg ge...@gunlaug.com: I agree in principle, but guess how much you play by the market, or not, depends on whether you are trying to sell something, or not. :-) FWIW, I have no first in mind when designing, only all...

Re: [css-d] Firefox and page inflation

2014-04-10 Thread Georg
Den 10.04.2014 12:59, skrev MiB: What mobile first does is focusing on the content and the essential presentation of it. Something all web design should be doing already. That they should, regardless of how they approach visual design. regards Georg

[css-d] Fancybox modal window location in iPhone

2014-04-10 Thread Debbie Campbell
Works fine in Android both portrait and landscape (centered on the screen), and fine in iPhone portrait view, but in landscape view on an iPhone the modal window is off to the lower right. http://www.artofequinemassage.com/class-photos/ I tried making an adjustment to the CSS but don't have

Re: [css-d] Fancybox modal window location in iPhone

2014-04-10 Thread Tom Livingston
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Debbie Campbell d...@redkitecreative.com wrote: Works fine in Android both portrait and landscape (centered on the screen), and fine in iPhone portrait view, but in landscape view on an iPhone the modal window is off to the lower right.

Re: [css-d] Fancybox modal window location in iPhone

2014-04-10 Thread Debbie Campbell
Thank you - I'll give that a try. -- Debbie On 4/10/2014 7:18 AM, Tom Livingston wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Debbie Campbell d...@redkitecreative.com wrote: Works fine in Android both portrait and landscape (centered on the screen), and fine in iPhone portrait view, but in

Re: [css-d] [admin/OT] was: Firefox and page inflation

2014-04-10 Thread Felix Miata
On 2014-04-10 11:24 (GMT+0100) Philip Taylor composed: I cannot trace the original That's one of the hazards of mailing lists that do not munge. The habit of needing to reply specially instead of with a normal reply button can induce someone receiving a private reply to a list post to

Re: [css-d] Firefox and page inflation

2014-04-10 Thread Davies, Elizabeth
As with the previous authors, I also do not own/carry a mobile device. However, our site visitors do. While I'm neutral overall on Mobile First vs. Desktop First, I can say that going to a Mobile First style sheet reduced our overall CSS by more than half. About 25% of our visitors are coming

Re: [css-d] Firefox and page inflation

2014-04-10 Thread Chris Williams
Then you all can be happy carrying your pagers and listening to the latest hit from Abba as well. Mobile use is not a fad. It's not just something those whippersnappers are doing, even if you're not. It is, for many, the first and sometimes only web device they use. And it's use is growing

Re: [css-d] Firefox and page inflation

2014-04-10 Thread Del Wegener
On 4/10/2014 10:33 AM, Chris Williams wrote: Then you all can be happy carrying your pagers and listening to the latest hit from Abba as well. Mobile use is not a fad. It's not just something those whippersnappers are doing, even if you're not. It is, for many, the first and sometimes only

Re: [css-d] Firefox and page inflation

2014-04-10 Thread Philip Taylor
Thank you for your comments, Chris, which clearly contain a great deal of sense. Let me, if I may, address just one part of what you say, in terms of what I create (create, in terms of create web sites, that is) -- The problem that mobile-first is trying to solve is an issue not simply one of

Re: [css-d] Firefox and page inflation

2014-04-10 Thread Chris Williams
This, too, is a place where we engineers try to pretend we are like our users and, in doing so, often fail them. We all are comfortable with technology, and feel that sure, let's let them customize the heck out of this thing, give them a ton of options. Because we are comfortable with lots of

Re: [css-d] Firefox and page inflation

2014-04-10 Thread Chris Williams
Philip, as I described in the message I just sent, I too am developing a very complex and detailed application where I was convinced that one needed a huge screen to appreciate it. After many discussions with my contract designer she was able to convince me that the mobile user was worth

Re: [css-d] Firefox and page inflation

2014-04-10 Thread Tom Livingston
Typical text site : http://marden-prg.org.uk/ Typical graphic-dependent high-resolution site : http://www.royalholloway.ac.uk/Hellenic-Institute/Research/Etheridge/ For what it's worth, a smart enough phone - like my iPhone - can render the high resolution site mentioned above with

Re: [css-d] Firefox and page inflation

2014-04-10 Thread Tom Livingston
Also, we're drifting away from list appropriate topics... Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Chris Williams ch...@clwill.com wrote: Philip, as I described in the message I just sent, I too am developing a very complex and detailed application where I was convinced that one

Re: [css-d] Firefox and page inflation

2014-04-10 Thread MiB
apr 10 2014 16:19 Davies, Elizabeth elizabeth_dav...@gallup.com: the Mobile First philosophy brought many wins with it. Perhaps the name is misleading and it should be Simplicity First or Basics First ;D I liked that one.

Re: [css-d] Firefox and page inflation

2014-04-10 Thread MiB
apr 10 2014 18:50 Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com: it's still useable. He's not leaving mobile users *completely* out in the cold. That it is so is still quite a bit beside the point I think. The users only have to get used to sites that cater for them, their use cases and their devices,

Re: [css-d] Fancybox modal window location in iPhone

2014-04-10 Thread Debbie Campbell
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Debbie Campbell d...@redkitecreative.com wrote: Works fine in Android both portrait and landscape (centered on the screen), and fine in iPhone portrait view, but in landscape view on an iPhone the modal window is off to the lower right. I tried making an

Re: [css-d] Fancybox modal window location in iPhone

2014-04-10 Thread Ken Robinson
Works fine on my iPhone 5. Ken On Thursday, April 10, 2014, Debbie Campbell d...@redkitecreative.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Debbie Campbell d...@redkitecreative.com wrote: Works fine in Android both portrait and landscape (centered on the screen), and fine in iPhone

Re: [css-d] Fancybox modal window location in iPhone

2014-04-10 Thread Tom Livingston
I'm still experiencing the problem. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2014, at 9:37 PM, Debbie Campbell d...@redkitecreative.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Debbie Campbell d...@redkitecreative.com wrote: Works fine in Android both portrait and landscape (centered on the screen),