Fair point.
This one works with JS disabled:
http://www.discovermvp.com/employers/
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 12:19 PM, David Hucklesby huckle...@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/14/13 5:30 AM, Tom Livingston wrote:
I personally wouldn't want the main function of my navigation, on a
responsive site
it?
Best,
Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
http://designdrumm.com
On Sep 14, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Philip Taylor wrote:
Tom Livingston wrote:
I personally wouldn't want the main function of my navigation, on a
responsive site intended for many devices of varying ability, to be
dependent
. The responsiveness.
Unless I am just totally out of the loop (this is not an impossible
assumption =) and there is a non-javascript responsive design... ?
If so, I am all ears/eyes.
Best,
Karl DeSaulniers
Design Drumm
http://designdrumm.com
On Sep 14, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Tom Livingston
, at 2:07 PM, Tom Livingston wrote:
The responsiveness does work with IE9 and above as well as the usual
good browsers. Carousels and the like won't, obviously.
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com
wrote:
@Tom: Does your responsive site work
{
...declarations
@media min-width {}
}
Recently I've been leaning more towards this way because it gives me the
ability to see the whole picture without moving from file to file. However,
I'm constantly questioning whether its the best way or not.
On Sep 14, 2013 3:46 PM, Tom Livingston tom
To clarify, I'm delivering desktop only to old IE.
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote:
I prefer to deliver desktop only to older browsers, so your inline
MQs would make this more difficult as you would need to make/write a
separate sheet to pull this off
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What browser/version?
On Saturday, September 14, 2013, David Hucklesby wrote:
On 9/14/13 9:30 AM, Tom Livingston wrote:
Fair point.
This one works with JS disabled:
http://www.discovermvp.com/**employers/http://www.discovermvp.com/employers/
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 12:19 PM, David
:
Tom's suggestion may work as well, but you will need to fix your container.
Due to all of the child elements being floated, you will need height:
100%;overflow:auto so that your container wraps the children
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They are also
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not correct, it just looks
funny, to me, to see an a around a bunch of content :)
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a is an inline element and cannot contain block level
in IE8+ and other normal browsers.
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This might help:
http://www.campaignmonitor.com/guides/mobile
I believe they talk about client support, even if you aren't doing responsive.
I have another page bookmarked and will pass it on when I get in the office.
T
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://www.email-standards.org/
http://www.campaignmonitor.com/css/
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to trying it
without though.
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote:
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Hi. I have been lurking in this forum for a few years and have learned
quite a bit from reading the posts. Now I have a question
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Philip Taylor p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote:
Tom Livingston wrote:
I should have mentioned that the inline font styling we do is
generally set on the td tag. With the possible need to repeat on
elements inside the td such as lis, but it's been a bit since I
with font tags
too. And for me, the ups out-weight the downs.
Tom
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Philip Taylor p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote:
Tom Livingston wrote:
If I misread your post's intent, then I apologize for my tone.
Your tone was absolutely fine, Tom, and no offense was clearly
to support things
that barely have vendor prefixed support. I'm much more OK with that
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, Campaign Monitor and Marketo force
a text version to be made. If you don't do it, the system will do it
for you (so make sure you check it!).
Would this cover what you speak of Felix?
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Speak of the devil:
https://twitter.com/meyerweb/status/376053792749268993
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote:
On 2013-09-06 14:11 (GMT-0400) Tom Livingston composed:
Services I've used, like MailChimp, Campaign Monitor and Marketo force
a text version
List,
I have a request to fix some layout issues in IE10 Compatibility Mode.
Everything I've googled says IE10 CM should render like IE7. When I
view my page in IE10 CM, it breaks. When I view it in IE7, it's fine.
Can anyone point me in the right direction for trouble shooting this?
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I see .ie7 .wrapper {width: 940px}
Thing is, as I mentioned, it renders correctly in IE7. I need to
distinguish IE10CM from IE7 apparently...
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On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Philip Taylor p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote:
Tom Livingston wrote:
Can anyone point me in the right direction for trouble shooting this?
As always, and with apologies for Raising My Voice : Post a URL !
Philip Taylor
Apologies. I was going for philosophical
Tom Livingston wrote:
Apologies. I was going for philosophical help as opposed to digging
into the code, but here it is:
http://everywhere.llbean.com/
OK, I have viewed it in IE9 and IE10 and have not spotted any obvious
problems in the latter; what problems should I expect to encounter
FYI, I know about the validation errors, however they occur in content
injected into my page that I have no control over.
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Philip Taylor p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote:
Tom Livingston wrote:
Can
or IE10CM
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote:
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wrote:
And it looks like box-sizing: border-box is the ultimate culprit,
maybe
IE7 doesn't handle it well?? Was the box-sizing property
by the IE7
specific stylesheet.
Correct me if I'm wrong: isn't compatibility mode in IE10 supposed to be the
same as IE7?
Also, are you using a polyfill for box-sizing?
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote:
Terrific! This just keeps getting better! LOL.
I have
Thanks for all the help everyone. I'll file that one under 'weird'.
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote:
The wrapper width was the issue. Thanks for that.
For some reason, in my 7, that wasnt causing an issue, but in 10CM it
was. Removing it, however, didnt
Design/Dev industry no long
check for UA versions. Most don't even support the ancient UAs at all.
Just wondering.
On September 4, 2013 at 3:19 PM Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote:
Terrific! This just keeps getting better! LOL.
I have multiple VMs running XP, Vista and 8. One XP is 7
that this block stays at the bottom of the page.
I have a bad feeling. This will not work in Quirks mode.
Regards,
MarieAnge
My apologies. I only did a quick test on a page without enough content to
scroll. Sorry for the goose-chase.
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From: Tom Livingston
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Barney Carroll
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Oops — forgot to reply all. Here we go:
Hi Marie-Ange,
If you can change the CSS but can't change the markup, and real position:
fixed is impossible, you can still achieve the same effect with the
following
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On Friday, 30 August 2013, Tom Livingston wrote:
jsfiddle doesn't seem to work in 8 it seems though :-P
Yes, sorry — codepen.io wasn't saving for me plus I like to keep all my
snippets in one place for future
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Can't look right now but are you adding to or changing desktop styles or
replacing them. Are you working desktop down?
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I am trying to get solid on basic media queries with the
)
Thanks!
John
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Can't look right now but are you adding to or changing desktop styles or
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Might be simpler to not have an MQ around your desktop since in this case it's
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If you use the right MQs, you can still do that. Same concept, different widths
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Might
a thought, since you are just starting. Might be a good time to try it.
OK, I'll sleep better now.
Good luck.
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If you use the right MQs, you can still
, say 600 or 768 and up for example? The MQ route was what
I have done in the past, but designers here would prefer the fonts on
mobile as well. Looking for some consensus on whether it's too much
for mobile.
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2013-08-26 22:18, Tom Livingston wrote:
Anyone (still) use this? Is there something better?
http://selectivizr.com/
I use it regularly as nth-of type and first
Developer Responsive
Design View. Command-Option-M on Mac.
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Anyone (still) use this? Is there something better?
http://selectivizr.com/
I use it regularly as nth-of type and first/last-of-type is so handy
and I have to support back to IE7 usually.
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FWIW, what I do is repeat my styles without MQ's inside a conditional comment.
Lo-fi, I know, but if you don't want to load a polyfil, this is another option.
I use sass imports to do this in a neat way. Email me if you want any more
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If you're in a sharing mood, Tom, it would be great if you would post your
solutions to this mailing list, and we could all benefit from your hard work
;-)
On 2013-08-23, at 10:24 AM, Tom Livingston wrote
Is this getting through? Haven't gotten anything from the list since
July 10th...
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OK thanks everyone. Sorry for the noise. I had bothered Mr. Meyer
enough about this and was wondering if it was just me. Seems ok now!
;-)
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Yes :-)
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If I'm following you, I'd float:left both the input and label. Adjust as needed.
HTH
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So this check box is in a responsive layout and when the page is shrunk width
wise, the text
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be? I see nothing to gain.
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http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/css/reset/
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You won't get PhotoShop multiply layer effects exactly, but using a 24bit png
for your image with areas of alpha transparency to allow the bg color to come
through is as close as u can get I believe.
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Background: #cco url('image.png') 0 0 no-repeat;
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Fiddling with trying to combine a background image with background color
applied to the same element and hoping to vary either one or both opacity.
; but they are appearing next to each other in
the browser. I understand why and expect this, but what would be the
proper way to get them each on their own line? Wrap them each in a P
for example, or is there a way to do it within the CSS?
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2013-06-17 19:25, Tom Livingston wrote:
Given this structure:
div class=sidebar
a href= class=grey-button icon-infoInfographics/a
a href= class=grey-button icon-calcTax Credit Calculator/a
a href= class=grey-button
site.
My questions are:
Are there any big 'gotchas' with this type of layout?
Am I doing this correctly/the best way?
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this on a production site.
My questions are:
Are there any big 'gotchas' with this type of layout?
Am I doing this correctly/the best way?
TIA.
I should mention to narrow up your browser window to see the layout change.
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List,
I use selectivizr frequently. Do you use this or something like it?
What's your method for dealing with, for example, a lack of support
for:
p:nth-of-type(3n){
color: red;
}
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Outside of tables, I really haven't had projects that required :nth-child
support in older browsers on any other html elements.
/email
signature id=paceaux name=Frank M. Taylor twitter=@paceaux /
On Jun 12, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Tom Livingston wrote:
List,
I use selectivizr frequently. Do
:
style
.wrap div{width: 32%;margin-right:2%;float:left}
.wrap div + div + div {margin-right:0;}
/style
div class=wrap
div/div
div/div
div/div
/div
I like it. That idea never occurred to me, sadly.
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I would recommend a mobile-first approach, yes. It's considered best practice.
mediaqueri.es is a good gallery of responsive sites.
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I recently looked at the style sheet for my
, it is a placeholder character to later be replaced with an
actual URL to an image.
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culprit down.
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Does anyone have any good resources on supporting 2x images (Retina)?
A 'how-to' would be good as well as I have not yet done this.
Also, DO YOU support Retina/2x images in your web work??
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. This allows the cascade to render a desktop-only layout
for old IE. A bit low-fi maybe, but works well for me and have had no
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@media { ... }
Just thinking out loud, but is the above, without any attributes (?)
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I generally use @media only screen and (min-width: [breakpoint]){}
with a mobile-first layout. As far as size go, it may be the 13px font
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I recommend Mobile First and Responsive Web Design from abookapart.com as
well as peeking under the hood at sites listed at mediaqueri.es
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I'm a retired and
comment.
http://selectivizr.com/
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container or even body for C
and use that hook.
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on scalability?
Awesome resources, tips, etc welcome!
Thanks in Advance!
I recommend:
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http://www.abookapart.com/products/mobile-first
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rem, Georg ? Having been forced to use rem for this
fix, I am now considering adopting them more widely.
Philip Taylor
Support isn't too bad for rem. What's best practice fall back for using rem?
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Have you tried:
background-image:url(../image/bricktile.jpg);
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On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:26 PM, COM j...@coffeeonmars.com wrote:
Background images are relative to the CSS not the HTML
Wait..so…you're saying that the .css document is making the call for
?
section role=main
I admit to still being confused by the proper use of section and
article. I was waiting for the dust to settle on them (which it
probably has by now) and in the meantime, I use:
div class=main role=main/div
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You can spec font-size of 100% on the body. This respects the users preference
settings in their browser. You can then spec element font size in ems. The 16px
is usually the default size set in browsers upon install.
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What I usually see for this is wrapping the li text in spans and styling that
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I am having a tough time finding online (google, w3schools) the correct way
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I would assume the base styles are the desktop, and as break points decrease,
you would undo the desktop layout.
My experience with a site I took over that was done this way is that desktop
first seems to require a lot more code to over-ride the desktop layout than it
does to build
In response to your issue #2 below, I have had good luck with putting MQs on
link elements, and then repeating the link elements without MQs inside a
conditional comment for 7 8, allowing the cascade work to deliver a
desktop-only layout for old IE. I hate poly filling everything and also had
some thoughts...
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. This would be inside conditional
comments.
Is this off base, or am I ok?
Off-list replies are requested if this is leaning off-topic for this list.
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FWIW, I use MQs on link elements to load sheets. Then, for IE less than 9, I
repeat the link elements without MQs inside a conditional comment to serve the
desktop only layout to those browsers. This may be a little low-tech and it is
a few more http requests, but I am not a fan of poly-filling
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FWIW, I use MQs on link elements to load sheets. Then, for IE less than 9, I
repeat the link elements without MQs inside a conditional comment to serve the
desktop
This may shed some light:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8549529/what-is-the-difference-between-screen-and-only-screen-in-media-queries
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Le 16 mars 2013 à 09:05, Micky Hulse
Can you apply the border to the second section instead of the nav?
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On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Markus Ernst derer...@gmx.ch wrote:
Hello
I have a structure of nested elements somehow like:
article
div
section
table
...
;
border=spacing:5px
}
Regards D)
Most prefer bottom posting. Though, with GMail, it's more work so top
posting does happen.
Like others, I don't see why you're floating at all. TDs naturally flow
next to each other in rows.
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Date: Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [css-d] clear content after non-floating items?
To: Laura Valentino la...@vidmot.com
There doesn't appear to be any floats involved
to the
sidebar and floating it left. Adjust to suit.
HTH
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Is there anything above the div that you need printed? If not, try a print
style that hides anything above the desired div or if nothing is above it, make
a print style to pull the div back up the page.
HTH
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On Feb 28, 2013, at 8:26 PM, Wade Smart wadesm...@gmail.com wrote:
So no takers on this? Am I missing something so simple that everyone
was afraid to tell me? No one has IE 10 to test in?
The layout has changed on the actual page, but I'd still love to know what
was going on on my test page...
Thanks!
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Tom Livingston tom
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Georg ge...@gunlaug.com wrote:
On 27.02.2013 11:30, Tom Livingston wrote:
http://proof.mlinc.com/tl/**cssd3/test.htmlhttp://proof.mlinc.com/tl/cssd3/test.html
In Win 8, IE 10 (desktop or 'metro'), when we hover over the href in the
middle callout
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Georg ge...@gunlaug.com wrote:
On 27.02.2013 11:55, Tom Livingston wrote:
Good to know I am not going crazy. Yet.
:-) ... apparently not yet.
The addition of...
.calloutwrap p {overflow: hidden;}
...seems to make IE10 behave in your case. You must
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which is actually kinda cool, if unexpected.
Is this a known thing? Google isn't helping me!
Laura
There are things like:
a:link {
-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgb(52,158,219); }
which, I assume (uh-oh) that will allow you to customize that 'random'
color...
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corners sorta. Can anyone reproduce this weirdness and/or see why?
TIA
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Working for me in Mac Chrome (latest release).
Try adding div{box-sizing: border-box;} and also I usually leave some
wiggle room and not have widths add up to exactly 100%.
HTH
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