Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-28 Thread Jason Crosse
david wrote: I saw a report mentioned a few years ago saying that (1) the majority of web surfing in Japan is done via cell phone, and (2) analysts expect Europe to go the same way. Considering that that was a few years ago, Europe may already be doing the majority of its web surfing via

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-27 Thread trevor bayliss
Hi David and all, Sorry I put up the wrong link http://216.219.94.105/indextest.cfm I am playing around with all the great pointers I have been given. There seem to be a lot fo different opinions on this one so I will always be doing it wrong in somebody´s eyes I suppose!

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-27 Thread David Laakso
trevor bayliss wrote: Hi David and all, Sorry I put up the wrong link http://216.219.94.105/indextest.cfm I am playing around with all the great pointers I have been given. There seem to be a lot fo different opinions on this one so I will always be doing it wrong in somebody´s eyes

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-27 Thread Jason Crosse
Shark Attack Design wrote: I wonder what proportion of web users ever bother to adjust the default text size of their browser(s)? The preset default size is generally 16 (I think Safari is different?) although I'm not sure what the units are for that default -- pixels? Points? It's been

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-27 Thread Susan Grossman
As an FYI - I sent out a survey at my last position to state workers who used computers for specific tasks and personal use and this was one of the questions. Out of 67 responses back, no one had ever changed the default font size or their default resolution. A very small study, but

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-27 Thread david
Please don't top post! Susan Grossman wrote: As an FYI - I sent out a survey at my last position to state workers who used computers for specific tasks and personal use and this was one of the questions. Out of 67 responses back, no one had ever changed the default font size or their default

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-27 Thread david
Jason Crosse wrote: Shark Attack Design wrote: I wonder what proportion of web users ever bother to adjust the default text size of their browser(s)? The preset default size is generally 16 (I think Safari is different?) although I'm not sure what the units are for that default -- pixels?

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-25 Thread trevor bayliss
Thanks a lot for all your replies what a large topic but essential to understand. I have been playing around with various percentages, medium, em for sizes and I am still on the case and before I rewrite the design again,settling at present for 100% for body text. However, even though I have

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-25 Thread David Laakso
trevor bayliss wrote: Thanks a lot for all your replies what a large topic but essential to understand. I have been playing around with various percentages, medium, em for sizes and I am still on the case and before I rewrite the design again,settling at present for 100% for body text.

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-25 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: trevor bayliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, even though I have avoided ems in my present code it seems impossible to get IE to resize text. I know that IE has a bug but I was told it would work with anything other than px. Here´s the offending css and a link to the page

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-21 Thread Brian Crescimanno
That's a lot of great information arguing in favor of allowing for complete user control over text size and I'll be the first to say that I love the concept. However, the difficulty comes in reconciling that desire with the design at hand. Example: I have a fixed width design that is 760px wide

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-21 Thread David Laakso
Brian Crescimanno wrote: That's a lot of great information arguing in favor of allowing for complete user control over text size and I'll be the first to say that I love the concept. However, the difficulty comes in reconciling that desire with the design at hand. Example: I have a fixed

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-21 Thread Brian Crescimanno
On 6/21/07, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's see what you've got. Provide a uri to your example. Best, ~dL Oh, I'm speaking in a purely academic sense here based on my experience of layouts that don't really account for text resizing (as an aside, I am not a designer, I work on an

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-21 Thread Joel D Canfield
complete user control over text size snip Example: I have a fixed width design mutually exclusive parameters. if the width is fixed, at some point I can enlarge the text enough to break it. it's about balance - *how much* can they enlarge it before it breaks? is it really 'broken' or just

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-21 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/06/21 13:00 (GMT-0400) Brian Crescimanno apparently typed: That's a lot of great information arguing in favor of allowing for complete user control over text size and I'll be the first to say that I love the concept. However, the difficulty comes in reconciling that desire with the

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-21 Thread Shark Attack Design
I wonder what proportion of web users ever bother to adjust the default text size of their browser(s)? The preset default size is generally 16 (I think Safari is different?) although I'm not sure what the units are for that default -- pixels? Points? I think that most people, if they were

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-21 Thread Ed Seedhouse
On 6/21/07, Shark Attack Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder what proportion of web users ever bother to adjust the default text size of their browser(s)? The preset default size is generally 16 (I think Safari is different?) although I'm not sure what the units are for that default --

[css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-20 Thread trevor bayliss
Hi all, The text breaks up the page when I increase it´s size. On the body part of the css at the moment it is font 11px -what should I change it to some percent value? Thanks for any pointers body {padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 0px; background: #ff repeat-x 50% top;

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-20 Thread Luc
Good afternoon trevor, It was foretold that on 20/6/2007 @ 12:09:17 GMT-0700 (PDT) (which was 16:09:17 where I live) trevor bayliss would write: snipped a bit On the body part of the css at the moment it is font 11px -what should I change it to some percent value? I use a minimum of 76%.

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-20 Thread Rick Faircloth
-discuss Subject: Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged Good afternoon trevor, It was foretold that on 20/6/2007 @ 12:09:17 GMT-0700 (PDT) (which was 16:09:17 where I live) trevor bayliss would write: snipped a bit On the body part of the css at the moment it is font 11px -what

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-20 Thread trevor bayliss
Thanks Luc! Luc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good afternoon trevor, It was foretold that on 20/6/2007 @ 12:09:17 GMT-0700 (PDT) (which was 16:09:17 where I live) trevor bayliss would write: On the body part of the css at the moment it is font 11px -what should I change it to some percent

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-20 Thread Robert O'Rourke
, 2007 4:03 PM To: trevor on css-discuss Subject: Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged Good afternoon trevor, It was foretold that on 20/6/2007 @ 12:09:17 GMT-0700 (PDT) (which was 16:09:17 where I live) trevor bayliss would write: snipped a bit On the body part of the css

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-20 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks for the info, Rob! Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert O'Rourke Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:51 PM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged There is a good argument

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-20 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/06/20 17:07 (GMT-0400) Rick Faircloth apparently typed: What establishes the baseline size of 100% ? This is a web browser setting. Do all browsers use the same baseline size? They mostly used to be close, and still are, but less so than in the past. The reasons for the divergence

Re: [css-d] Best way for text when enlarged

2007-06-20 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/06/20 12:09 (GMT-0700) trevor bayliss apparently typed: The text breaks up the page when I increase it´s size. On the body part of the css at the moment it is font 11px -what should I change it to some percent value? Yes. Do: body {... font: /*11px - mousetype on high resolution