On Jan 28, 2008, at 12:01 AM, Geoffrey Sneddon wrote:
on Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:22:38 Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
'The standards' (and the doctypes) were not written with differences
in 'rendering' in mind.
is this what you know or you believe? is there anything documented
about this
On Jan 28, 2008, at 5:30 AM, DAVOUD TOHIDY wrote:
See: http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/01/24/almost-target/
...for details.
Thanks a lot for joining to the discussion George. So based on what
Eric states on that page, a strict doctype requires that the correct
CSS specifications to
@George:
I understand your points very well.
Again: doctypes and doctype-switching should *not* have anything to do
with how CSS should be interpreted, but the fact that it does affect CSS
is the only reason I'm responding on-list.
That is exactly what I am reffering to George. Doctype
George wrote:
I think that is one of the few proper uses one can make of a doctype.
Yes that is ONLY one of the proper uses of a Doctype.
Thanks a lot for everybody who contributed to this thread.
Regards,
davoud
P.S.:To contribute to my research please visit:
DAVOUD TOHIDY wrote:
Now from here I would like to point out an important issue. There has
been some people on the internet claiming that Doctype is only for
VALIDATION purposes. I believe they are just joking and that they
do not see the big picture.
The big picture is that browsers
Davoud Tohidy wrote:
@George:
I understand your points very well.
Again: doctypes and doctype-switching should *not* have anything to do
with how CSS should be interpreted, but the fact that it does affect CSS
is the only reason I'm responding on-list.
That is exactly what I am
Yes that is ONLY one of the proper uses of a Doctype.
Doesn't make much sense to CC the list with quotes like that, when my
mails are delayed forever and too often don't ever reach the list.
G
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@ Zach:
Thanks a lot for the link Zach . A wonderfull article and
definitely a keeper and provides some really good information.
However I need more broad comparision table of different
doctypes in STANDARD modes.
My question is a standards specific questionrather than browser specific one.
On Jan 27, 2008, at 6:34 PM, DAVOUD TOHIDY wrote:
So I believe when they wrote the standards, they already knew what
the differences are between different URIs in different doctypes.
I am hoping that w3c might have documented those differences somewhere
and that is what I am looking for.
on Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:22:38 Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
'The standards' (and the doctypes) were not written with differences
in 'rendering' in mind.
is this what you know or you believe? is there anything documented
about this statement?
and how a standard can be written without
On 27 Jan 2008, at 14:22, DAVOUD TOHIDY wrote:
on Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:22:38 Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
'The standards' (and the doctypes) were not written with differences
in 'rendering' in mind.
is this what you know or you believe? is there anything documented
about this
DAVOUD TOHIDY wrote:
on Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:22:38 Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
'The standards' (and the doctypes) were not written with differences
in 'rendering' in mind.
is this what you know or you believe? is there anything documented
about this statement?
In
Are you suggesting that it is the browser which defines the standards?
Are you suggesting that it is the browser which decides to assign the
gap for the image not the strict dtd?
Yes – go and look through the DTD, you will find nothing to do with
rendering at all in it.
Are you
o.k thanks a lot for everybody's contribution so far.
Let me ask you a question.
Suppose we use a strict doctype. Back to the image gap example.
Now browsers encounter the strict doctype:
I would like to know what happens that makes browsers
insert the gap in strict mode?
davoud
On 27 Jan 2008, at 16:10, DAVOUD TOHIDY wrote:
Are you suggesting that it is the browser which defines the
standards?
Are you suggesting that it is the browser which decides to assign
the
gap for the image not the strict dtd?
Yes – go and look through the DTD, you will find nothing
Jan 2008 19:03:25 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [css-d] Doctypes rendering comparision table (my
5c) On 27/01/2008, DAVOUD TOHIDY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would
like to know what happens that makes browsers insert the gap in strict
mode? The cause
on Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 18:06:53 Geoffrey Sneddon wrote:
The DOCTYPE trigger a non-standardised switch, which affects both HTML
and CSS (and, to a lesser extent, DOM). It is a de-facto standard
implemented very, very, very similarly across all major browsers.
do you mean when we use the
Geoffrey Sneddon wrote:
The DOCTYPE trigger a non-standardised switch, which affects both HTML
and CSS (and, to a lesser extent, DOM). It is a de-facto standard
implemented very, very, very similarly across all major browsers.
What? Are you kidding?
Or do you mean the de-facto standard on
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Subject: Re: [css-d] Doctypes rendering comparision table (my 5c)
DAVOUD TOHIDY wrote, On 27.01.2008 18:37:
Let me ask you a question.
Suppose we use a strict doctype. Back to the image gap example.
Now browsers encounter the strict doctype:
I would like
On 27 Jan 2008, at 18:52, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
Geoffrey Sneddon wrote:
The DOCTYPE trigger a non-standardised switch, which affects both
HTML
and CSS (and, to a lesser extent, DOM). It is a de-facto standard
implemented very, very, very similarly across all major browsers.
What? Are
Rafel wrote:
David, please configure your e-mail client...
well I am using hotmail and i am not sure How I can do that...lol
but I will look at the options to see what I can do there.
The paragraph above looks like a possible answer to me...How about you?
But it is not to me. It is not
I may be the only one who feels this way, but what started as a reasonable
question has become very off topic (DTDs have nothing to do with CSS). I say
this not only because off topic messages are considered annoying by some,
but also because it means you are asking the wrong group of people.
DAVOUD TOHIDY wrote:
[...] So based on what Eric states on that page, a strict doctype
requires that the correct CSS specifications to be applied to an
element such as the img in question.
However almost standard mode does not necessarily requires it in SOME
cases like above.
Am I
greetings,
Looking for a comprehensive comparision table of rendering
different items, such as the gap under an image in strict mode,
based on using all available doctypes.
Is there anyhting documented on this?
thanks for your input
davoud
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:51:16 -0500, DAVOUD TOHIDY wrote:
greetings,
Looking for a comprehensive comparision table of rendering different items,
such as the
gap under an image in strict mode, based on using all available doctypes. Is
there
anyhting documented on this?
Not quite sure
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