Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
Yeah, and the user who uses Lynx on Windows 95, I know I know…
No you don't. Those who use Lynx will not be affected by font fall-back
issues. In trying to ridicule my concern for the majority, you seem to fall
back to strawman arguments from the 1990s.
I
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
A modern OS / browser will do the job for you.
But most users, or (to be cautious) at least a non-negligible share like 40%
of users, seem to be using an OS / browser that in non-modern by your
implicit definition.
p { font-family: font-a, font-b, font-c, serif;}
On Jul 15, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
A modern OS / browser will do the job for you.
But most users, or (to be cautious) at least a non-negligible share like 40%
of users, seem to be using an OS / browser that in non-modern by your
implicit
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
Usually you don't even know if the user has the font activated or not... :-).
This is a little off-topic for CSS-D, but still pertinent,
so I hope the question will be acceptable to most : is
it possible, using JavaScript or otherwise, to interrogate
the DOM to
On 7/13/10 5:07 AM, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
What I describe is actually the expected behaviour per CSS 2.1
/3-fonts…
OK, even better news :-) Very many thanks. ** Phil.
FWIW - That has been my experience with various language fonts--even
when
If I have a page such as the following :
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd;
html
head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8
titleArmenian test/title
style type=text/css
Hi,
What about using CSS3 web fonts http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fontface/generator
?
Upload the font you want, it will generate all the different types,
link to them using the @fontface thing and bingo - they don't need
that font on their system.
or am I dreadfully mistaken?
BR, CB
On
Chris Blake wrote:
Hi,
What about using CSS3 web fonts
http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fontface/generator ?
Upload the font you want, it will generate all the different types, link
to them using the @fontface thing and bingo - they don't need that font
on their system.
or am I dreadfully
On Tuesday 13 July 2010 20:57, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
If I have a page such as the following :
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd; html
head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8
Michael Adams wrote:
Would it help to create a page with all the Unicode chars in the range you are
using and ask who can see how many based on font selections on a per
paragraph basis. For *my* Linux Nimbus Roman No9 L may be a well populated
serif font and Nimbus Sans L as sans serif
On 13/07/2010, at 6:38 PM, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
Michael Adams wrote:
Would it help to create a page with all the Unicode chars in the
range you are
using and ask who can see how many based on font selections on a per
paragraph basis. For *my* Linux Nimbus Roman No9 L
Chris Blake wrote:
On 13/07/2010, at 6:38 PM, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
[T]he CSS fallback mechanism was formulated at a time when Unicode
was not yet prevalent, and does not seem to have evolved to
cope with the need to have greater control over the fallback
font selected
On Tuesday 13 July 2010 23:02, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
I think that there is a great deal of unintentional racism in
the US-English-centric web that we use today, but the last time
a group of us tried to raise this as a serious issue within the
CSS working group, one of the
Michael Adams wrote:
On Tuesday 13 July 2010 23:02, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
I think that there is a great deal of unintentional racism in
the US-English-centric web that we use today, but the last time
a group of us tried to raise this as a serious issue within the
CSS
On Jul 13, 2010, at 5:57 PM, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
I have presumably chosen my primary font not only because I feel its
aesthetics are appropriate but also because it supports the necessary
subset of Unicode to correctly display the characters that make up
the page. But if
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
A modern OS / browser will do the job for you. [snip]
Thank you, Phillipe : a very interesting summary. It is
certainly useful to know what the behaviour of most current
rendering engines is, but of course unless it is actually
enshrined in the specification, one
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
What I describe is actually the expected behaviour per CSS 2.1 /3-fonts…
OK, even better news :-) Very many thanks.
** Phil.
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css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org]
On 07/13/2010 03:38 AM, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
Michael Adams wrote:
Would it help to create a page with all the Unicode chars in the range you
are
using and ask who can see how many based on font selections on a per
paragraph basis. For *my* Linux Nimbus Roman No9 L may
fantasai wrote:
Was there something else you wanted?
Dear Fantasai : many thanks for demonstrating that I was
incorrect in my belief that the font-fallback mechanism
has not evolved over time; I am extremely pleased that
this is the case. As to whether there is anything else
in this area
On Tuesday 2010-07-13 09:57 +0100, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
Is there, therefore, in CSS, some way of specifying as a part of the
font fallback sequence that any font selected as a result of fallback
must support a specific subset of Unicode such that the page can be
guaranteed
At 8:51 PM +0900 on 07/13/2010, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote about Re:
[css-d] Fonts, fall-backs Unicode:
A modern OS / browser will do the job for you. You can specify a
fallback font if your first choice is not available:
p { font-family: font-a, font-b, font-c, serif;}
Gecko, WebKit, Opera
On 07/13/2010 12:45 PM, Bob Rosenberg wrote:
The problem is two fold (in my opinion).
First is that unlike with printing use, there is no Font of Last
Resort fall-back. That support says to use the defined font BUT if
there are glyphs in the text which are not in the font then to
attempt to
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