Re: [css-d] I want to scream

2005-11-05 Thread Christian Montoya
> Hi Angela, > > Thought it best I write off list. > Was this supposed to be off list? I'm embarrassed, I might have just eavesdropped. -- -- C Montoya rdpdesign.com ... liquid.rdpdesign.com ... montoya.rdpdesign.com __ css-discu

Re: [css-d] I want to scream

2005-11-05 Thread Vicki Stebbins
Hi Angela, Thought it best I write off list. I know exactly how you feel... My first table less website (all CSS) nearly gave me a nervous breakdown, thank god the client was overseas and not pushing... it took an age and cost us far more to build than quoted and I ended up getting a CSS perso

Re: [css-d] I want to scream

2005-11-05 Thread david
Linda H wrote: >>I wouln't worry too much about Netscape...cover the big ones (IE, firefox, >>opera, safari). > > What about AOL. Isn't it's internal browser based on Netscape. And then > there is it's new external browser based on IE. Does anyone know if it will > do a better job of supporting

Re: [css-d] I want to scream

2005-11-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Laakso wrote: > Some say a sense of humor helps. They may be wrong. No! They are dead right :-) :-) ;-) CSS is pure fun, and buggy browsers only add some more fun[1] to it. Georg [1]http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/molly_1_15.html -- http://www.gunlaug.no ___

Re: [css-d] I want to scream

2005-11-05 Thread David Laakso
Linda H wrote: >I can understand Angela's frustration. I feel it too. I was very excited >about CSS when I first started using it, but poor browser support has >really dampened my spirits. > Some say a sense of humor helps. They may be wrong. Best, ~dL -- David Laakso http://www.dlaakso.com _

Re: [css-d] I want to scream

2005-11-05 Thread christianz
I can't believe all of us web developer types let Microsoft's monopoly win. Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 00:46:18 - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [css-d] I want to scream To: "'css-discuss'" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text

Re: [css-d] I want to scream

2005-11-05 Thread Linda H
>I wouln't worry too much about Netscape...cover the big ones (IE, firefox, >opera, safari). What about AOL. Isn't it's internal browser based on Netscape. And then there is it's new external browser based on IE. Does anyone know if it will do a better job of supporting CSS than IE? I can unde

Re: [css-d] I want to scream

2005-11-05 Thread Eileen
On Nov 4, 2005, at 3:05 PM, Angela Trigg wrote: > Been developing in Firefox like a good little CSS newbie, and am > making the > tweaks necessary to make it work in IE6/WIN (which feels like trying > to put a rubix cube together) (grin) not a direct answer but have a look at http://webhost.bridge

Re: [css-d] I want to scream

2005-11-04 Thread Al Sparber
From: "Michael Hulse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > (Demo at bottom of page:) > http://www.udm4.com/demos/horizontal-relative-dropup.php UDM4 is not free - unless one tries to bypass the licensing. That said, the scripts that Angela is using are from our free extensions. We have no way to control how a

Re: [css-d] I want to scream

2005-11-04 Thread Angela Trigg
Firefox). __ ANGELA TRIGG * TRIGGERID www.triggerID.com -Original Message- From: Gunlaug Sørtun [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 7:18 PM To: Angela Trigg Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] I want to scream Ang

Re: [css-d] I want to scream

2005-11-04 Thread ross
'Electric Dreams' on Lazerdisc. R. - Original Message - From: "Angela Trigg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'css-discuss'" Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [css-d] I want to scream >I don't think the issue is P7, I th

Re: [css-d] I want to scream

2005-11-04 Thread Phil Glatz
At 03:55 PM 11/4/2005, Tony wrote: >Angela Trigg wrote: > > can someone give me a reason to stick it out > > given all the hacks you have to do, etc? > >eventually you'll discover the power of CSS - to take semantic (x)html >and lay it out one way or another in minutes, to make a minor change >acro

Re: [css-d] I want to scream

2005-11-04 Thread Christian Montoya
> I know, that's why I'm attempting to learn, but man, it's so tempting to go > back. Luckily it's slow here with work so I'm able to devote this time, but > normally I can't spend this much time on development for a client. > CSS design does take time, because you aren't learning a new form of ta

Re: [css-d] I want to scream

2005-11-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Angela Trigg wrote: > I feel like throwing the towel in and going back to tables--- > seriously-- I can code sites so fast that way because I've been doing > it for so many years... > ...I've invested hours and hours and hours into trying to get this to > work using just CSS. > http://cmmi.trg

Re: [css-d] I want to scream

2005-11-04 Thread Angela Trigg
t: Friday, November 04, 2005 6:57 PM To: css-discuss Subject: Re: [css-d] I want to scream On Nov 4, 2005, at 3:34 PM, Michael Hulse wrote: > On Nov 4, 2005, at 3:05 PM, Angela Trigg wrote: >> Been developing in Firefox like a good little CSS newbie, and am >> making the tweaks nece

Re: [css-d] I want to scream

2005-11-04 Thread Angela Trigg
_ ANGELA TRIGG * TRIGGERID www.triggerID.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Crockford Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 6:55 PM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] I want to scream Angela Trigg wrote: >

Re: [css-d] I want to scream

2005-11-04 Thread Michael Hulse
On Nov 4, 2005, at 3:34 PM, Michael Hulse wrote: > On Nov 4, 2005, at 3:05 PM, Angela Trigg wrote: >> Been developing in Firefox like a good little CSS newbie, and am >> making the >> tweaks necessary to make it work in IE6/WIN (which feels like trying >> to put >> a rubix cube together). I felt li

Re: [css-d] I want to scream

2005-11-04 Thread Tony Crockford
Angela Trigg wrote: > can someone give me a reason to stick it out > given all the hacks you have to do, etc? eventually you'll discover the power of CSS - to take semantic (x)html and lay it out one way or another in minutes, to make a minor change across the whole site in seconds, to get fast

Re: [css-d] I want to scream

2005-11-04 Thread Michael Hulse
On Nov 4, 2005, at 3:05 PM, Angela Trigg wrote: > Been developing in Firefox like a good little CSS newbie, and am > making the > tweaks necessary to make it work in IE6/WIN (which feels like trying > to put > a rubix cube together). I felt like I was so close, until I just took > a look > at it

[css-d] I want to scream

2005-11-04 Thread Angela Trigg
Been developing in Firefox like a good little CSS newbie, and am making the tweaks necessary to make it work in IE6/WIN (which feels like trying to put a rubix cube together). I felt like I was so close, until I just took a look at it in Netscape 7! I feel like throwing the towel in and going back