Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem

2009-04-10 Thread Rebecca Mazur
If anyone's interested in trying to see if they can break the pages again, I'd love to have you try :) Some of the places I previously spotted it happening are below: http://www.kenyon.edu/x12366.xml http://www.kenyon.edu/x7904.xml http://www.kenyon.edu/x14305.xml

Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem

2009-04-10 Thread David Laakso
Rebecca Mazur wrote: If anyone's interested in trying to see if they can break the pages again, I'd love to have you try :) Some of the places I previously spotted it happening are below: All checked in IE/6.0 (only) on a cleared cache. http://www.kenyon.edu/x12366.xml Footer

Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem

2009-04-09 Thread Rebecca Mazur
Certainly. Here's the way it should look: http://theredsetter.com/test/ie7mistake_good.jpg Here's what it does sometimes that it shouldn't: http://theredsetter.com/test/ie7mistake_bad.jpg Note that the good screenshot was taken after refreshing the bad, so you're looking at the same page in

Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem

2009-04-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rebecca Mazur wrote: If someone could just recognize and name the bug for me, that would be a help, as then I could go searching for solutions. http://www.kenyon.edu/x12305.xml The bug is clear enough, but finding a fix isn't. I found it easier to reproduce the problem in IE6 - multiple

Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem

2009-04-09 Thread Rebecca Mazur
I did a copy-and-paste validation and only found a couple of unencoded two missing alts, and an xmlns attribute that I need to get rid of--I can't imagine those being the trouble. They're not things I want in there, and I should find and fix them regardless, but they're not the sort of thing

Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem

2009-04-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rebecca Mazur wrote: Have you had experience with browsers breaking on those particular validation errors? No. Old IE will eat, ignore or correct such minor errors, same as other browsers. I have seen IE do many strange things when served compacted source-code though, and your markup is

Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem

2009-04-09 Thread David Laakso
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Rebecca Mazur wrote: Have you had experience with browsers breaking on those particular validation errors? No. Old IE will eat, ignore or correct such minor errors, same as other browsers. I have seen IE do many strange things when served compacted

Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem

2009-04-09 Thread David Laakso
Rebecca Mazur wrote: The big difference is that our stuff shouldn't ride all the way to the bottom of the screen like that. Bottom of footer and bottom of content should line up (with content just being content; no big gaps), unless footer + subnavigation content, in which case the

Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem

2009-04-09 Thread David Laakso
Rebecca Mazur wrote: Hi David, I think I ran the same scan that you did, but I'm not sure, since the only issues I got were some unescaped 's, a couple of missing alts, and those blasted xmlns attributes that I can't seem to get rid of (we're CMS based). Just wanted to check that that's

Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem

2009-04-08 Thread Rebecca Mazur
No good, though I wish that was all it would take. That's what lines up the bottom of the footer with the bottom of the content; take that out and the top of the footer lines up with the bottom of the content. If there was some other way to get the cussed thing to do that, the positioning

Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem

2009-04-08 Thread Elias Abunassar
On Apr 8, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Rebecca Mazur wrote: No good, though I wish that was all it would take. That's what lines up the bottom of the footer with the bottom of the content; take that out and the top of the footer lines up with the bottom of the content. If there was some other

Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem

2009-04-08 Thread David Laakso
Rebecca Mazur wrote: Here is one page that has definitely done it to me more than once: http://www.kenyon.edu/x12305.xml ~Rebecca Dunno. Up for a shot in the dark, Rebecca? The file is proprietary html. Change the doctype and character encoding and validate the markup to: !DOCTYPE

Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem

2009-04-08 Thread Rebecca Mazur
Sweet code there :) Not quite what I'm looking for, though, and I probably wasn't clear with my prose in my original email. The footer is kind of funky because it shares a column with the subnavigation *but* should align bottom-to-bottom with the content column *unless* the

Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem

2009-04-08 Thread Rebecca Mazur
Hmm, I might have to resort to that. The trouble with min-height, of course, is that our subnavs don't have a consistent height so I would either have some pages that are taller than they should be or risk having it still happen in some cases. I could probably prevent it on a larger number