I'm designing a Drupal theme and, unsurprisingly, am running into some
problems with IE6. All of these things are displaying correctly in FF,
IE7, Safari, and Opera.
1. The main (horizontal) menu is displaying in the wrong place.
2. There's a blank space between div#main and div#footer.
3.
On 2009/08/10 22:05 (GMT-0700) Michael Stevens composed:
From: Felix Miata [offlist, BTW]
Not the monitor's actual DPI, but the DPI actually applied to the viewport,
assuming a compliant browser with JS enabled:
http://fm.no-ip.com/auth/dpi-screen-window.html
2009/8/11 Michael Stevens bigm...@bigmikes.org:
-Original Message-
From: hramr...@gmail.com [mailto:hramr...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Michal
Suchanek
The problem is that the physical size is what the user sees, not the pixel
resolution. That's why it's better to avoid pixels and
Felix Miata wrote:
[...]
The reason why IE does what it does, like other non-Gecko Linux browsers
other than Opera, is that its preference sizing is done in pt rather than px.
It is because 12pt equals 16px at (the Windows default of) 96 DPI that medium
happens to be 16px on most Windows
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:24:40AM -0700, Theresa Mesa wrote:
Interestingly enough, as a learning exercise, I opened an image in
Photoshop, set the image size to 300px x 454px. File size was 399.3K,
regardless of what PPI it was. You were correct, Mike.
Then I saved the image in
2009/8/11 Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net:
On 2009/08/10 16:22 (GMT-0700) Theresa Mesa composed:
What I find amusing about the admonition to use points is that points
are printing-industry-based, not monitor- or Web-based. There are 12
points in a pica, or 72 points in an inch. Back in the
On 2009/08/11 16:10 (GMT+1000) Alan Gresley composed:
Very interesting discussion in which I am learning much. What you say
above got me thinking and I have decided to do a test case.
http://css-class.com/test/css/box/pixels-points-dpi.htm
This is what I note:
1. The 96px and 72pt boxes
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 04:10:45PM +1000, Alan Gresley wrote:
2. The 100px and 75pt boxes are the same size with a 96 DPI setting on a
monitor but also they are exactly 1 inch (using a ruler) in height and
width.
...which means that, within the limits of the accuracy of your ruler,
your
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:11:04AM +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote:
Even if points are not precise unit in CSS because of browser and OS
problems most users can set their DPI in their preferences if it is
not automatically determined from screen size (unless they are running
a particularly
Even if points are not precise unit in CSS because of browser
and OS problems most users can set their DPI in their
preferences if it is not automatically determined from screen
size (unless they are running a particularly abhorrent
browser + OS combination).
This brings up a very good
2009/8/11 Dave Sherohman d...@sherohman.org:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:11:04AM +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote:
Even if points are not precise unit in CSS because of browser and OS
problems most users can set their DPI in their preferences if it is
not automatically determined from screen size
2009/8/11 Rob Emenecker list-s...@hairydogdigital.com:
Even if points are not precise unit in CSS because of browser
and OS problems most users can set their DPI in their
preferences if it is not automatically determined from screen
size (unless they are running a particularly abhorrent
I have a menu system that uses nested ULs. The main menu is a fixed
size, but I want the sub menu's to be variable width that will grow to
encompass the entire width of the menu item. I figured min-width would
do this; however, it only grows to be as big as the longest non-breaking
string.
I thus
On 2009/08/11 11:11 (GMT+0200) Michal Suchanek composed:
Once you set the DPI properly sites designed in points, mm or em
should be reasonably readable for you.
Em, yes, as long as the designer makes no assumption that the predetermined
em is wrong and (arbitrarily) changes it.
With pt mm it
Hi guys,
I guess I could just crop the image and make it 100%, but I would be
settling, I think, because based on what the current version is
doing, I'm pretty sure I would see a little of my black background on
either side. It won't really look like it continues beyond the window
edge.
I've learned much from this discussion. Thank you!
Theresa
On Aug 11, 2009, at 1:37 AM, Dave Sherohman wrote:
That's an easy one... 300px x 454px x 3 bytes/px = 408,600px, or
399.0234k of actual, uncompressed image data. Add some headers and
metadata, and 399.3k sounds about right as a
2009/8/11 Theresa Mesa trixiesirishe...@gmail.com:
But...the web isn't print. So, unless I'm creating a separate style sheet
for print, I really don't care how it looks for other people.
Theresa
Then you can as well draw a picture, print it out, and stick it to
your wall. Or put plain text
2009/8/11 Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net:
Unfortunately, using pt, mm or in, regardless of DPI accuracy or screen
resolution, doesn't work out all that much better than px. All but em/ex
leave visitors' needs and preferences totally out of the sizing equations.
The difference is that with
On 11/08/2009, at 1:10 AM, Michael Beaudoin wrote:
I just finished roughing out a site for a client and it looks good in
all browsers, except there is an alignment issue in IE 7. If you look
at these sample pages:
- http://www.ba-doyn.com/junk/saw/index.htm
-
I'm designing for a *web* site. I'm not designing a business card. If
I plan for people to print it out, I can create a style sheet for that.
I design for greatest usability and accessibility, if possible,
checking on the PC platform and Mac platform in a number of browsers
on each, but
2009/8/11 Theresa Mesa trixiesirishe...@gmail.com:
I'm designing for a *web* site. I'm not designing a business card. If I plan
for people to print it out, I can create a style sheet for that.
I design for greatest usability and accessibility, if possible, checking on
the PC platform and Mac
Hi, maybe this isn't 100% CSS question, but I'm looking to build a
simple contact form, name, email, message and submit button (maybe
captcha too, but optional).
The thing is that no matter how I construct a form it displays wrong,
either in FF, IE7 or IE8.
I've found some tutorials on Google,
- Original Message
From: Michal Suchanek hramr...@centrum.cz
2009/8/11 Felix Miata :
Unfortunately, using pt, mm or in, regardless of DPI accuracy or screen
resolution, doesn't work out all that much better than px. All but em/ex
leave visitors' needs and preferences totally
In order to help we'll need more information about what you've tried and
a link of what your doing would be nice. Many of us have successfully
created forms before, so this is not a technical difficulty.
Also letting us know which technology your using would be very helpful.
This is a form that
Michael Beaudoin wrote:
On 11/08/2009, at 1:10 AM, Michael Beaudoin wrote:
I just finished roughing out a site for a client and it looks good in
all browsers, except there is an alignment issue in IE 7. If you look
at these sample pages:
- http://www.ba-doyn.com/junk/saw/index.htm
-
Michael Beaudoin wrote:
I think I know. Are you enlarging the type?
M
On Aug 11, 2009, at 12:47 PM, David Laakso wrote:
Michael Beaudoin wrote:
What is broken? I'm looking at Firefox v3.5.2 and it looks ok to me.
- http://www.ba-doyn.com/junk/saw/index.htm
-
But...the web isn't print. So, unless I'm creating a separate style
sheet for print, I really don't care how it looks for other people.
Theresa
On Aug 11, 2009, at 2:11 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
On the other hand, designing in pixels is like saying I design this
web for my screen and
On Aug 11, 2009, at 1:08 PM, David Laakso wrote:
Michael Beaudoin wrote:
I think I know. Are you enlarging the type?
M
On Aug 11, 2009, at 12:47 PM, David Laakso wrote:
Michael Beaudoin wrote:
What is broken? I'm looking at Firefox v3.5.2 and it looks ok to
me.
-
On Aug 11, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Krystian - Sunlust wrote:
Hi, maybe this isn't 100% CSS question, but I'm looking to build a
simple contact form, name, email, message and submit button (maybe
captcha too, but optional).
The thing is that no matter how I construct a form it displays wrong,
sono...@fannullone.us wrote:
Hi David,
Thank you for responding to my problem.
sono...@fannullone.us wrote:
I think I've narrowed it down. If I remove the following code in
the css-ui.tabs.css file: .ui-tabs-nav:after { display: block;
clear: both; content: ; }
[...]
Under what circumstances might a container that has min-width set not
grow beyond the size of min-width?
Chris Barth
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Michael Beaudoin wrote:
On Aug 11, 2009, at 1:08 PM, David Laakso wrote:
Michael Beaudoin wrote:
I think I know. Are you enlarging the type?
M
On Aug 11, 2009, at 12:47 PM, David Laakso wrote:
Michael Beaudoin wrote:
What is broken? I'm looking at Firefox v3.5.2 and it looks ok to
Michael Beaudoin wrote:
On Aug 11, 2009, at 1:08 PM, David Laakso wrote:
Michael Beaudoin wrote:
I think I know. Are you enlarging the type?
M
On Aug 11, 2009, at 12:47 PM, David Laakso wrote:
Michael Beaudoin wrote:
What is broken? I'm looking at Firefox
On Aug 11, 2009, at 11:48 AM, David Hucklesby wrote:
Odd. Adding overflow: hidden; to .ul-tabs-nav put the .ul-tabs-panel
border below the tabs this end. On which browser does this not work?
(I
am on a Mac...)
Same here - I'm using both Safari 4.0.1 and Camino 1.6.8 on OS 10.5.7
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:22:02 -0400
From: David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com
Subject: Re: [css-d] Weird alignment issue with IE 7...
To: Michael Beaudoin mich...@ba-doyn.com
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Message-ID:
On 12/08/2009, at 6:59 AM, Christopher Barth wrote:
Under what circumstances might a container that has min-width set not
grow beyond the size of min-width?
I'm not sure exactly what you mean by this question. Do you mean -
what are some possible reasons as to why an element that you
Christopher Barth wrote:
I have a menu system that uses nested ULs. The main menu is a fixed
size, but I want the sub menu's to be variable width that will grow
to encompass the entire width of the menu item. I figured min-width
would do this; however, it only grows to be as big as the
On 12/08/2009, at 7:41 AM, Michael Beaudoin wrote:
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:22:02 -0400
From: David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com
Subject: Re: [css-d] Weird alignment issue with IE 7...
To: Michael Beaudoin mich...@ba-doyn.com
Cc:
Michael Beaudoin wrote:
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/cssd/mb.png
Is anyone seeing what David sees in Firefox? It looks fine to me in
Firefox Mac and PC.
http://www.ba-doyn.com/junk/saw/index.htm
http://www.ba-doyn.com/junk/saw/services.htm
David's view:
sono...@fannullone.us wrote:
On Aug 11, 2009, at 11:48 AM, David Hucklesby wrote:
Odd. Adding overflow: hidden; to .ul-tabs-nav put the .ul-tabs-panel
border below the tabs this end. On which browser does this not work? (I
am on a Mac...)
Same here - I'm using both Safari 4.0.1 and
--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Sam Brown freejack_in...@yahoo.com wrote:
I understand the argument from a purist perspective,
usability should be first and foremost in any design and/or
layout, but realistically, I don't see this as a practical
issue given the more common usage of page zooming over
Under what circumstances might a container that has min-width set not
grow beyond the size of min-width?
If the container doesn't need to grow beyond min-width.
To put that answer in the context of your previous question, browsers would
rather expand down than out. If an item can wrap, it
I did not create the original styles on this site - but am working to fix
some things...
Anyone see/know why the thumb image on the top middle content item
(Consultancy Draws on Intimate Knowledge...) is cut off in IE7?
http://www.apparelnews.net/features/profiles_qa/
I believe that this is
On 2009/08/11 12:24 (GMT+0200) Michal Suchanek composed:
... Typically you look at the
screen from a distance similar to that from which you look at printed
paper
Probably correct for laptops, but not for desktops, which is a large part of
why the Windows default DPI assumption is 96:
On 2009/08/11 12:26 (GMT-0400) Sam Brown composed:
I hate to skew the discussion by introducing another variable, but while
it is true that a layout designed using px for sizing is essentially
cemented in that size, all of the modern browsers I have seen now
emphasize page zooming over text
Michael Beaudoin wrote:
What is broken? I'm looking at Firefox v3.5.2 and it looks ok to me.
- http://www.ba-doyn.com/junk/saw/index.htm
- http://www.ba-doyn.com/junk/saw/services.htm
It looks fine in Firefox
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.1.2)
Thanks. This did the trick.
Chris Barth
-Original Message-
From: David Hucklesby [mailto:huckle...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 3:04 PM
To: Christopher Barth
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: Re: [css-d] Question about width and min-width in ul
Christopher Barth
On Aug 11, 2009, at 1:42 PM, David Hucklesby wrote:
Using the code from your site this morning, and simply adding
overflow: hidden; to the rule for .ul-tabs-nav put the border line
below the tabs, as I believe you want.
Oh, man... I had added it to the .ui-tabs-nav:after rule
Dave Sherohman wrote:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:11:04AM +0200, Michal Suchanek wrote:
Even if points are not precise unit in CSS because of browser and OS
problems most users can set their DPI in their preferences if it is
not automatically determined from screen size (unless they are running
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