[css-d] Probably a simple fix.....

2006-09-14 Thread Matthew Stoneback
Hello all, I am hoping you can help me understand and fix something on a
site I am working on.

 

First, here is the page link: http://www.eddysound.com/tams/html/sale.htm
(1)

 

Here is the css document: http://www.eddysound.com/tams/style/help.css (2)

 

And last, a page which looks right, but with nonsense text making it work:
http://www.eddysound.com/tams/index.htm (3)

 

As for my question / problem, I would like the repeated image on the left
hand side to continue all the way to the bottom of the page without having
to put any text in the div to make it happen.  An example of what it looks
like when the right side has more content then the left is link #(1).  An
example of the left hand side filling out to the bottom of the page with
nonsense text is link #(3).

 

Is it possible for image on the left side to repeat to the bottom keeping my
design in tact?  If so, what am I missing?  I hope my explanation is clear
enough, if not let me know and I will try and clear up anything I have
completely blurred.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Matthew Stoneback

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Re: [css-d] Problems with List Indents

2006-09-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
 http://www.champeauservices.com/primemediagroup/prime_media.html

The cause is that some browsers have margin-defaults on lists (IE/win
and older Opera-versions), while others have padding-defaults (Gecko,
Safari and new Opera-versions).
(Don't blame any browsers - there is no standard for how browsers should
do this.)

So, you'll have to set both margins and paddings for lists to make them
agree on how to indent list-items - usually by zeroing out one property
and setting a suitable value for the other.


The fix in your case is to add...

#vertmenu ul {padding: 0;}

...and otherwise keep it as is.

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Re: [css-d] Probably a simple fix.....

2006-09-14 Thread Tony Crockford
Matthew Stoneback wrote:

 Is it possible for image on the left side to repeat to the bottom keeping my
 design in tact?  If so, what am I missing?  I hope my explanation is clear
 enough, if not let me know and I will try and clear up anything I have
 completely blurred.

put the background image on the main content container.

see faux columns:
http://alistapart.com/articles/fauxcolumns/
A List Apart: Articles: Faux Columns

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[css-d] Float ordered lits and bullets in IE

2006-09-14 Thread Jorge R
Hello. This is my first time here. I`m having a problem with ordered list.
In IE the numbers disappear when the list items are left floated.

ol

liItem A/li
liItem B/li
liItem C/li

 /ol

and the css:
ol {
margin:0;
padding:0;
}
ol li {
float: left;
}

Thanks and I anybody can help me...
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Re: [css-d] Probably a simple fix.....

2006-09-14 Thread Matthew Stoneback
I was right a simple fix. Thanks Tony.  I already have it fixed.

Matthew Stoneback


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Re: [css-d] Need some testing and fixes for a blog skin

2006-09-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Andy Mosmiller wrote:

 http://www.anonymousopinion.com/index.php?blog=1

 [...]If this isn't the answer, what *is* the answer for centering an
  image without using the center tag?

Declare 'text-align: center' on a/the surrounding element. That'll
center images as well as text, so you may have to declare 'text-align:
left' on any paragraphs that are affected.

 I'm also using the dynamic text replacement scripts talked about and 
 listed here: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/dynatext/
 
 Apparently there are some errors with these displaying at all in the 
 newest version of Opera.  I had some layout issues with Opera 
 earlier, but tracked those down and fixed them.

Must have worked... Opera 9.01 (win2K) present them, and the entire
page, the same as Firefox when compared side by side.

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[css-d] IE7+zoom+collapsing list

2006-09-14 Thread kenneth
Hi, I have a problem with the new zoom-feature (ctrl+) in IE7. When I zoom in
the meny seems to collapse. Is this a known problem?

full version:
http://www.molindata.se/addschakt/start.htm

Below is a short version where the problem still exists. I have tried to give
the list layout but still no difference. I also tried to set position to
relative. If I take away the list and just keep the links the problem
disappears (haven't tried it yet in the full version). Is there any other
disadvantages to have links, with no list, lined up horizontally?

short version:
http://www.molindata.se/addschakt/nav1.htm

Here's the code to the short version:

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd;
html
head
titlemall/title
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

style type=text/css
#nav{
width: 100%;
}
#nav ul{
width:80%;
}
#nav li{
display:inline;
border-right:1px solid #ccc;
padding:6px;
/*height:1%;*/
}
#nav li a{
/*height:1%;*/
}
/style

/head
body 

div id=navul
lia  href=#Start/a/li
lia  href=#Fouml;retaget/a/li
/ul/div!--/nav--

/body
/html

Thanks in advance/
Kenneth, molinData

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[css-d] css challenge: frameset style browser height stretching page

2006-09-14 Thread starmonkey
hey guys,

Have been trying to work out how to do the following without resorting  
to framesets/iframes whatever - just a simple page with css (and  
tables if needs be)

I want a page that has
- header (always at the top)
- footer (always at the bottom of the browser window)
- content panel (subdivided into 2 columns: navbar and body)

I want the content panel to stretch down to meet the footer (the  
content panel will have a repeating background image set in css).

Here's the trick: when the body is longer than the browser window, I  
want the body to have a scrollbar, kinda like when you have a div with  
a set height and auto overflow.

Is this possible? Or should I forget about fixing the height of the  
page and tell the client he'll have to have a regular webpage with a  
scrollbar and scroll down?

cheers,
sm
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Re: [css-d] css challenge: frameset style browser height stretching page

2006-09-14 Thread Bradley Wright
On 14/09/2006 09:21, starmonkey wrote:
  Is this possible? Or should I forget about fixing the height of the
  page and tell the client he'll have to have a regular webpage with a
  scrollbar and scroll down?

In my experience, this isn't really possible using CSS on its own. It 
is, however, possible using Javascript. I once did something similar for 
a client:
- http://www.antiqueprintroom.com/
As you'll see, the page loads and then everything snaps into place.

I don't really recommend this approach, as it's not the best user 
experience and adds a lot of weight to the page for very little gain. 
But feel free to rip apart the JS and CSS files and see what you can 
gain from them. :)
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Re: [css-d] css challenge: frameset style browser height stretching page

2006-09-14 Thread Rob Wilmshurst
  Here's the trick: when the body is longer than the browser window, I 
   want the body to have a scrollbar, kinda like when you have a div 
with   a set height and auto overflow.

Roger Johansson published something similar to this a few days ago; it's 
an update of quite an old technique:
http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200609/css_frames_v2_fullheight/
The example:
http://www.456bereastreet.com/lab/css-frames-v2/example-2/

Is that what you're after?

Regards,
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[css-d] CSS rollover navigation

2006-09-14 Thread Clare Plumtree
Hi all, new to this list, pointed here as i need some help with some
CSS and hoped someone could help me...

Ive just finished uni and only did a bout a terms worth of CSS whilst
there (media production, so rather generalised topics!) so i only
really know how to do fonts, headers, links, pretty basic stuff
really.

Ive been informed that i can produce a rollover navigation bar
with CSS (im trying to validate to make the site im working on as
professional as poss and having some probs with javascript etc) Im not
so sure how this would work though as i have about 5-6 different
images, one for each page, then the respective image rollover, so i
guess i cant just do a img set that to one picture then do the hover
version for the rollover, as i have too many different pictures to
use. any help would be much appreciated!

Thanks in advance, Clare
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Re: [css-d] CSS rollover navigation

2006-09-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Clare Plumtree wrote:
 Hi all, new to this list, pointed here as i need some help with some 
 CSS and hoped someone could help me...

Welcome.
Yes, I think we can help a bit with CSS related stuff.

 Ive been informed that i can produce a rollover navigation bar with
 CSS [...]

Choose a suitable one for the job...
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CssRollovers
...and study the old method(s)...
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/javascript/2001/03/23/rollovers.html

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Re: [css-d] CSS rollover navigation

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Clare Plumtree wrote:
 
 Ive been informed that i can produce a rollover navigation bar
 with CSS 

any help would be much appreciated!
 
 Thanks in advance, Clare

Try here for a start.

http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CssRollovers

Also, Clare, if you have a specific problem, its best if you post the 
url so list readers can see your markup and css in order to answer your 
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Re: [css-d] postion:absolute not following a position:relative

2006-09-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Marcelo Wolfgang wrote:
 http://work.grillo.tk/gaiolla/index.cfm?storeOwner=paula

 I'm trying to add an overlay badge to some photos in a site I'm 
 developing, so I thought that adding positon:relative and 
 position:absolute for them should do the trick, but I don't know what
  is the problem, but this ain't working.

The idea is good enough, but you've got the relations somewhat wrong in
the source-code. All overlays relate to the entire row, so they all end
up on the leftmost image in each row - stacked on top of each other.
IE/win is a bit buggy, so it doesn't show the overlays at all.

The overlay must be marked-up inside each photo-container in order to
relate to it. There's already 'position: relative' declared on those
photo-containers. No need for an extra div to carry the overlay-image,
as the image can be positioned directly.

Example:

Source-code:
div id=photo-onea href=http://;img src=__.jpg
width=107 height=109 alt= /img class=badge-lancamento
src=__.png width=46 height=47 alt= //a/div


...and the same for all other image/links that need an overlay.

CSS:
img.badge-lancamento{
position:absolute;
top:10px;
left:10px;
}

...which will place the overlay on top of the upper-left corner of each
image.


You should also add...

#center-wrap {display: table;}

...to make that container contain those floats and stretch all the way down.


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Re: [css-d] Problems with List Indents

2006-09-14 Thread Dean Champeau
Thanks, Gunlaug... it works!

By the way, your comment about not blaming a particular browser led  
to an epiphany for me... each browser has its own defaults for HTML  
structural elements, that there is no one correct way to render,  
and that it's up to me to specify rendering explicitly if I want the  
content to conform to my design intent. I've been working with CSS  
for 3 months, and this concept was never clear in my mind until now.  
Thanks!

Is there an online resource somewhere that lists all the HTML  
elements that are rendered differently among browsers, and shows what  
CSS attributes you must tweak in order to get browsers to render the  
elements similarly? This would be very handy. The alternative for me  
is trial and error. (For instance, in this case I was fooling around  
with margin, padding, text-indent, and list-style attributes for  
hours before you showed me the right combination of attributes to set.)
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On Sep 14, 2006, at 1:54 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:

 http://www.champeauservices.com/primemediagroup/prime_media.html

 The cause is that some browsers have margin-defaults on lists (IE/win
 and older Opera-versions), while others have padding-defaults (Gecko,
 Safari and new Opera-versions).
 (Don't blame any browsers - there is no standard for how browsers  
 should
 do this.)

 So, you'll have to set both margins and paddings for lists to make  
 them
 agree on how to indent list-items - usually by zeroing out one  
 property
 and setting a suitable value for the other.


 The fix in your case is to add...

 #vertmenu ul {padding: 0;}

 ...and otherwise keep it as is.

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Re: [css-d] css challenge: frameset style browser height stretching page

2006-09-14 Thread Matthew Bernhardt
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 04:30:50 -0400, Rob Wilmshurst  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] answered an original poster:

  Here's the trick: when the body is longer than the browser window, I
  want the body to have a scrollbar, kinda like when you have a div with
  a set height and auto overflow.

 Roger Johansson published something similar to this a few days ago; it's
 an update of quite an old technique:
 http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200609/css_frames_v2_fullheight/
 The example:
 http://www.456bereastreet.com/lab/css-frames-v2/example-2/

Here's 456 Berea Street's original demo that seems its very close to the  
original request - including a two-column main body:

http://www.456bereastreet.com/lab/cssframes/

This demo proved quite valuable for me when putting together two resources  
for the school here:

http://knowlton.osu.edu/scholars/
and
http://knowlton.osu.edu/faculty/

Hopefully this helps,
Matt

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Re: [css-d] Problems with List Indents

2006-09-14 Thread Phil Glatz
At 05:19 AM 9/14/2006, Dean you wrote:
Is there an online resource somewhere that lists all the HTML
elements that are rendered differently among browsers, and shows what
CSS attributes you must tweak in order to get browsers to render the
elements similarly?

Instead of writing to individual browsers (whose defaults may change 
over time), you can create an even playing field by bringing in a 
style sheet before your others that resets all elements to known 
values.  An example is the reset.css from the Yahoo User Interface Library:

http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/reset/

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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-14 Thread ~davidLaakso
Jono wrote:
 ~davidLaakso wrote:
 A quick check of this simple page 
 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/frost/ with what you are 
 running...
   
 The page is verry long in IE 5 Mac -  I suspect the one True 
 Layout for equal height columns is to blame; I didn't look in depth 
 though.  Whether that bothers you or not is up to your site's 
 stats...if there are any yet?  I'm not sure off the top of my head how 
 you'd go about fixing that...or if there is a fix for IE Mac...can't 
 remember.

 Anyhow, that's all I saw in my extremely quick check.  Other than the 
 previous comments, everything looks good in the latest Firefox, 
 Safari, and Opera over in Mac land.

Thank you, Jono. I will look into the mac/ie5.2 depth problem. This not 
a one True Layout. However, it does employ deep padding-bottom, with 
an equally deep minus margin-bottom.
Best,
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Re: [css-d] 4 Column Layout with a Twist

2006-09-14 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Ted wrote:
 Hi all,

   I'm looking for a 4 column CSS template, but I haven't been able to  
 find quite what I'm after.  Here is a crude rendition of what I'd like:

 +---+++
 | 1 ||  2 |
 |   |++
 |   |||
 |   |||
 +---+|  3 |
   ||
   ||
   ||
   ||
 +-+
 | 4   |
 +-+

 Column 1 - Menu (fixed to top left)
 Column 2 - Header (fixed to top)
 Column 3 - Body (scrollable vertically)
 Column 4 - Footer (fixed to bottom)
   

This is not a four column layout. It's a four div layout with two 
columns and a full-width footer. But that's neither here nor there. 
What's important is not the amount of columns you need, but how to 
achieve columns -- floating -- and how to achieve scrolling -- overflow. 
Once you get these concepts worked out, you can use them to create 
layouts of however many columns you desire.

 1] Columns 1, 2, and 4 will be absolute and stationary, and column 3  
 will be scrollable.
 2] Columns 2 and 4 should always be visible and ride above column 3,  
 no matter the window size.
 3] Column 1 should ride above column 4 (if it's tall enough)
 4] Columns 2, 3, and 4 should be expandable to the right (fluid?) to  
 fill the browser window, but always hug column 1, which will be a  
 fixed width.
 5] Columns 1 and 2 should be able to 'expand' vertically, depending  
 on their content.
 6] There should be no gaps between columns
   

I suggest you use one of the examples on our wiki page about emulating 
frames as your starting point:
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=EmulatingFrames

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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-14 Thread tedd
At 9:10 PM -0400 9/13/06, ~davidLaakso wrote:
A quick check of this simple page
http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/frost/ with what you are running 
is appreciated. Just trying to pull out any problems or issues that I
may have overlooked, or that I am not aware of.
Thanks.
~dL

David:

In Safari 2.0.4 Mac OS-X 10.4.7, the oval image is cropped on the 
right as one zooms down.

As you know, one way to fix this is by setting the dimensions of the 
image in ems.

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Re: [css-d] IE 6 problems? Assistance please?

2006-09-14 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Hi,
First off, to start a new thread, do not reply to an existing message. 
When you do this,
your message gets threaded on to the old thread, which messes up the 
archives
and makes it less likely that others will see your message and subsequently
reply to you. You must send a new message with an appropriate and 
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subject line to css-d@lists.css-discuss.org in order to start a new thread.

4css aka deb wrote:
 I am not seeing these problems, however others are apparently seeing them. If 
 any of you could be of any assistance I would greatly appreciate it. 
 Following are the comments from the pages that were viewed:

 Using a  


 PC -- Internet Explorer 6.  See below.
   Can you do me a favor? Please open up these links and tell me if the art 
 shows up on the 1st screen or does it appear only after you page down. Also 
 tell me if you use a PC or a Mac an what your browser is (Explorer, Safari, 
 Firefox). 

   http://www.debsplace.org/artist/aboutsimonbull.html [Jeffrey B. Anderson]  
 -- Shows nothing when the new window loads, shows the photograph when the 
 window is maximized or when you scroll down.
   

This sounds like a float drop problem, common to IE. However, I don't 
see it in IE, and I don't see how it could show up upon narrowing the 
window because the layout is a fixed size. Nevertheless, the important 
point about float drops (which is where content adjacent to a float 
drops down the page to appear beneath it instead of beside it) is that 
they occur when there is not enough space for the content to sit beside 
the float, or when a buggy browser thinks there is not enough space. So, 
if you are seeing a float drop, make sure you are giving everything 
enough space in your dimensions.

Without being able to replicate the problem, I'm afraid I can't help 
further.

Zoe

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Re: [css-d] 4 Column Layout with a Twist

2006-09-14 Thread tedd
At 3:22 PM -0700 9/13/06, Ted wrote:
  Here is a crude rendition of what I'd like:

+---+++
| 1 ||  2 |
|   |++
|   |||
|   |||
+---+|  3 |
   ||
   ||
   ||
   ||
+-+
| 4   |
+-+

Crude be right.

It might be best to prepare an image as what you want and post a link 
to that to the list.

Depending upon readers to use the same fonts as you, may not the best 
in trying to communicate layouts.

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Re: [css-d] 4 Column Layout with a Twist

2006-09-14 Thread cj
On 9/14/06, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 3:22 PM -0700 9/13/06, Ted wrote:
   Here is a crude rendition of what I'd like:
 
 +---+++
 | 1 ||  2 |
 |   |++
 |   |||
 |   |||
 +---+|  3 |
||
||
||
||
 +-+
 | 4   |
 +-+

 Crude be right.

 It might be best to prepare an image as what you want and post a link
 to that to the list.

 Depending upon readers to use the same fonts as you, may not the best
 in trying to communicate layouts.

 tedd

sorry that this is a bit out of the scope of css, but imo ascii art is
a fair way to convey information in emails.  as this list is supposed
to send mail in plain text, most mail clients are going to show the
email in a block text font (what's that called again?), which lines
his little drawing up nicely.  do i think a picture would be nicer?
yeah.  :)  however the ascii art gets the general point across, and no
it's not a four column layout.
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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tedd wrote:
 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/frost/

 In Safari 2.0.4 Mac OS-X 10.4.7, the oval image is cropped on the 
 right as one zooms down.

Will happen in all browsers just by making the window narrow enough.

 As you know, one way to fix this is by setting the dimensions of the 
 image in ems.

Em-sizing won't solve the problem in this case. The layout is
'em-guided', not 'em-sized'.
Percentage-sizing might, but won't work reliable across browser-land.

Adding 'max-width: 100%' (or a little less) to the image _will_ solve it
in all supporting browsers. Just have to make sure the image can scale
properly.

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[css-d] Background images covered by floated element - fix?

2006-09-14 Thread Todd Sweet
In response to:

The easiest way to do this is just to assign the heading a left margin
equal to the width of #navcontainer so that it moves out from underneath
the float. This doesn't appear to be a problem for your page since your
#navcontainer is a fixed and known width.

Reply:

Thank you.  Yes, I knew from troubleshooting that adding a margin
would bump the bg-image out from under the float.  However, since
other h2s will need to flow beneath the navigation bar I didn't want
to apply a margin-left to all h2 elements.  Knowing there is no
alternative I can simply create a class for the first couple h2s.

Thanks again,

Todd
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Re: [css-d] Background images covered by floated element - fix?

2006-09-14 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Todd Sweet wrote:
 In response to:

 The easiest way to do this is just to assign the heading a left margin
 equal to the width of #navcontainer so that it moves out from underneath
 the float. This doesn't appear to be a problem for your page since your
 #navcontainer is a fixed and known width.

 Reply:

 Thank you.  Yes, I knew from troubleshooting that adding a margin
 would bump the bg-image out from under the float.  However, since
 other h2s will need to flow beneath the navigation bar I didn't want
 to apply a margin-left to all h2 elements.  Knowing there is no
 alternative I can simply create a class for the first couple h2s.
   

There are actually alternatives. If you're interested in them, please 
post the URL to your page again, and I'm sure somebody will help you 
with it (though I can't be sure that the alternatives wouldn't also 
involve classing the specific h2s in question -- they may or may not 
require such a thing. I'd have to play and see.)

Zoe

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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-14 Thread ~davidLaakso
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
 tedd wrote:
   
 http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/frost/
   

   
 In Safari 2.0.4 Mac OS-X 10.4.7, the oval image is cropped on the 
 right as one zooms down.
 

 Will happen in all browsers just by making the window narrow enough.

   
 As you know, one way to fix this is by setting the dimensions of the 
 image in ems.
 

 Em-sizing won't solve the problem in this case. The layout is
 'em-guided', not 'em-sized'.
 Percentage-sizing might, but won't work reliable across browser-land.

 Adding 'max-width: 100%' (or a little less) to the image _will_ solve it
 in all supporting browsers. Just have to make sure the image can scale
 properly.

 regards
   Georg
   
Tedd and Georg,
I've set the image with a percent max-width. Thank you for bringing 
this problem to my attention, and for the corrective fix.
Best,
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Re: [css-d] Safari acting up with horizontal menus

2006-09-14 Thread richard n
 What's best practice is always debatable, but a 'good' practice is one
 that tends to work no matter what - even under some stress. That's a
 good starting-point.


Thanks Georg for your advice on setting font sizes, line height etc.

I've hopefully implemented things correctly here:

HTML:

http://www.richardnicholson.com/testing/menu6/editorial.html

CSS:

http://www.richardnicholson.com/testing/menu6/menu.css


* The menu still looks a mess in IE 5.2.3. Mac. If anyone can give me 
any pointers to getting it working there, I would be very happy. There 
are two basic problems - the menu is out of alignment, and some of 
links vanish when hovered over. *

Thanks

Richard

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Re: [css-d] IE 6 problems? Assistance please?

2006-09-14 Thread ~davidLaakso
Zoe M. Gillenwater wrote:

[trimmed]


 4css aka deb wrote:
   
 I am not seeing these problems, however others are apparently seeing them. 
 If any of you could be of any assistance I would greatly appreciate it. 
 Following are the comments from the pages that were viewed:

 Using a  


 PC -- Internet Explorer 6.  See below.
   Can you do me a favor? Please open up these links and tell me if the art 
 shows up on the 1st screen or does it appear only after you page down. Also 
 tell me if you use a PC or a Mac an what your browser is (Explorer, Safari, 
 Firefox). 

   http://www.debsplace.org/artist/aboutsimonbull.html [Jeffrey B. Anderson]  
 -- Shows nothing when the new window loads, shows the photograph when the 
 window is maximized or when you scroll down.
   
 

 This sounds like a float drop problem, common to IE.
   
[trimmed]
 Without being able to replicate the problem, I'm afraid I can't help 
 further.

 Zoe

   
The only thing I noticed in xp ie6 is that on a couple of pages (see 
below), the thumbs with three line captions are getting hooked-- clear 
them and see if that helps...
http://www.debsplace.org/artist/christiannesvadba.html
http://www.debsplace.org/artist/demo3b_neworiginalpaintngs.html
Same thing on this page 
http://www.debsplace.org/artist/simonbullmain.html (the images are not 
the same height on this page and you have three and four line captions).
Best,
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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-14 Thread tedd
At 5:04 PM +0200 9/14/06, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
tedd wrote:
   As you know, one way to fix this is by setting the dimensions of the
  image in ems.

Em-sizing won't solve the problem in this case. The layout is
'em-guided', not 'em-sized'.

Georg:

Oh, not so -- gifted one. Please review:  :-)

http://sperling.com/david/

My em sizing of the image fixed the zoom problem reported with my browser.

I have not checked out all the different zoom 
levels in all other browsers, but the defaults 
seem to hold together well, see:

http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=284361

Comments?

tedd

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[css-d] Framing my menu (for horizontal scrolling photo gallery)

2006-09-14 Thread richard n
Hi

Now that I've got my navigation menu sorted out for some of the main 
browsers (FF, Safari, Opera, and IE6 PC), I'd like to use CSS to 
emulate a frame.

(This is going to be for my side-scrolling photo gallery.)

It seems to be a very simple effect to achieve in FF, Safari and Opera.

I simply add position:fixed to the #topbar (and then make the textbox 
3000px wide - so that there's something to scroll):

HTML:

http://www.richardnicholson.com/testing/menu_with_frames/editorial.html

CSS:

http://www.richardnicholson.com/testing/menu_with_frames/menu.css

What else do I need to add to get it working in IE6 PC?

(I still have a faint hope of getting something workable in IE 5.2.3 
Mac - but I'd be happy to lose the frame, and just have regular 
scrolling for that browser)

 - I know there are several links to 'frames' tutorials here at 
css-discuss. I've looked at a couple and they seem to be quite 
complicated, adding functionality that I don't need (fixed sidebars, 
footers etc). Perhaps I should follow this one (as it is the most 
current), and work through it, deleting the code I don't need (?):

http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200609/css_frames_v2_fullheight/

Thanks for any tips

Richard









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Re: [css-d] IE 6 problems? Assistance please?

2006-09-14 Thread 4css aka deb

  - Original Message - 
  From: ~davidLaakso 
  To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org 
  Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [css-d] IE 6 problems? Assistance please?


  Zoe M. Gillenwater wrote:

  [trimmed]


   4css aka deb wrote:
 
   I am not seeing these problems, however others are apparently seeing them. 
If any of you could be of any assistance I would greatly appreciate it. 
Following are the comments from the pages that were viewed:
  
   Using a  
  
  
   PC -- Internet Explorer 6.  See below.
 Can you do me a favor? Please open up these links and tell me if the art 
shows up on the 1st screen or does it appear only after you page down. Also 
tell me if you use a PC or a Mac an what your browser is (Explorer, Safari, 
Firefox). 
  
 http://www.debsplace.org/artist/aboutsimonbull.html [Jeffrey B. 
Anderson]  -- Shows nothing when the new window loads, shows the photograph 
when the window is maximized or when you scroll down.
 
   
  
   This sounds like a float drop problem, common to IE.
 
  [trimmed]
   Without being able to replicate the problem, I'm afraid I can't help 
   further.
  
   Zoe
  
 
  The only thing I noticed in xp ie6 is that on a couple of pages (see 
  below), the thumbs with three line captions are getting hooked-- clear 
  them and see if that helps...
  http://www.debsplace.org/artist/christiannesvadba.html
  http://www.debsplace.org/artist/demo3b_neworiginalpaintngs.html
  Same thing on this page 
  http://www.debsplace.org/artist/simonbullmain.html (the images are not 
  the same height on this page and you have three and four line captions).
  Best,
  ~dl

  sniped
  Hi David,
  Where would I place the clearing on this? I have the clearfix in the div, 
this would not help? Would I do a clear: both;  on the class for the images? 
This way it would clear left and right?
  thanks in advance for your assistance, it is greatly appreciated.


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Re: [css-d] 4 Column Layout with a Twist

2006-09-14 Thread Peach Lynda L CTR USAF 96 CG/SCWOE
That looks like a two-column layout to me and not four.
Four columns are:

+---++++++---+
| 1 || 2  || 3  || 4 |
+---++++++---+
|  (footer or other) |
++

You literally have at some point in time on your screen four columns.
You have shown 2 columns at the most
Then another container for info in section 3 
And a footer-type of container but never four columns side-by-side.

Have you gone to the Wiki (http://css-discuss.incutio.com/) and looked
at all the layout examples?

Now there are TRUE experts on this list who may come back and tell you
I'm totally wrong. (I promise not to cry if that happens.) But what you
showed visually to me is not four columns. It's a two columns layout
with careful use of IDs to get the end result you want.

So fellow CSSdiscussers? Am I right or wrong?

Lynda

-Original Message-
From: Ted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:22 PM
To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: [css-d] 4 Column Layout with a Twist

Hi all,

I'm looking for a 4 column CSS template, but I haven't been able
to find quite what I'm after.  Here is a crude rendition of what I'd
like:

+---+++
| 1 ||  2 |
|   |++
|   |||
|   |||
+---+|  3 |
  ||
  ||
  ||
  ||
+-+
| 4   |
+-+

Column 1 - Menu (fixed to top left)
Column 2 - Header (fixed to top)
Column 3 - Body (scrollable vertically)
Column 4 - Footer (fixed to bottom)

1] Columns 1, 2, and 4 will be absolute and stationary, and column 3
will be scrollable.
2] Columns 2 and 4 should always be visible and ride above column 3, no
matter the window size.
3] Column 1 should ride above column 4 (if it's tall enough) 4] Columns
2, 3, and 4 should be expandable to the right (fluid?) to fill the
browser window, but always hug column 1, which will be a fixed width.
5] Columns 1 and 2 should be able to 'expand' vertically, depending on
their content.
6] There should be no gaps between columns

I've tried to be as concise as possible, so let me know if you
need more information than what I've given here.

Thank you,
Ted

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Re: [css-d] Framing my menu (for horizontal scrolling photo gallery)

2006-09-14 Thread Daniel Hammond
| Now that I've got my navigation menu sorted out for some of 
| the main browsers (FF, Safari, Opera, and IE6 PC), I'd like 
| to use CSS to emulate a frame.
| http://www.richardnicholson.com/testing/menu_with_frames/editorial.html
| What else do I need to add to get it working in IE6 PC?


Just so you know, it works correctly in IE7 PC.

Daniel Hammond
www.objectivedesigns.com

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Re: [css-d] IE 6 problems? Assistance please?

2006-09-14 Thread 4css aka deb

  - Original Message - 
  From: ~davidLaakso 
  To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org 
  Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [css-d] IE 6 problems? Assistance please?


  Zoe M. Gillenwater wrote:

  [trimmed]


   4css aka deb wrote:
 
   I am not seeing these problems, however others are apparently seeing them. 
If any of you could be of any assistance I would greatly appreciate it. 
Following are the comments from the pages that were viewed:
  
   Using a  
  
  
   PC -- Internet Explorer 6.  See below.
 Can you do me a favor? Please open up these links and tell me if the art 
shows up on the 1st screen or does it appear only after you page down. Also 
tell me if you use a PC or a Mac an what your browser is (Explorer, Safari, 
Firefox). 
  
 http://www.debsplace.org/artist/aboutsimonbull.html [Jeffrey B. 
Anderson]  -- Shows nothing when the new window loads, shows the photograph 
when the window is maximized or when you scroll down.
 
   
  
   This sounds like a float drop problem, common to IE.
 
  [trimmed]
   Without being able to replicate the problem, I'm afraid I can't help 
   further.
  
   Zoe
  
 
  The only thing I noticed in xp ie6 is that on a couple of pages (see 
  below), the thumbs with three line captions are getting hooked-- clear 
  them and see if that helps...
  http://www.debsplace.org/artist/christiannesvadba.html
  http://www.debsplace.org/artist/demo3b_neworiginalpaintngs.html
  Same thing on this page 
  http://www.debsplace.org/artist/simonbullmain.html (the images are not 
  the same height on this page and you have three and four line captions).
  Best,
  ~dl

  -- 
  http://chelseacreekstudio.com/
  snip

  Ok I added the clear left but it tossed the layout so that all the divs with 
the photos were in a line down from each other. Not in a row of 3, but only 1 
photo to a row. That did not appear to work. What I did see was that I did not 
create the conditional sheet so that the divs holding the photos were a bit 
larger, so that could have been a problem.

  On the main style sheet the divs holding the photos were 175px, the divs for 
the IE conditional were only 150px wide, so I fixed that and it seemed to help 
one of the pages, I'll load up the style sheets to the server now to see how 
they are working.

  Thank you david, I hope increasing the size of the div and reducing the 
margin on the condtional will work. appreciate your time and effort greatly.

  Deb
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[css-d] If IE window resized, floated column moves

2006-09-14 Thread metasilk
I have a floated column that should appear on the left. It's less
important info, so in order that the content appear as high in source
as possible, this left-col uses negative margins.

It works just fine in FireFox (haven't tested Opera yet, and have
trouble getting to Safari-running machines). On the other hand, if I
resize the window in IE/Win, the column leaps to the right, and stays
there unless I reload the page.

yet stranger note: this happens on my IE/Win set up
(IE 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519/Win XP Pro, Dell Inspiron 1100)
and not on my client's machine (Windows,not sure which version, IE not
sure which version).

Does it happen on anyone else's? (Haven't had a chance to test it on
the desktop XP Home)

Can you help?

One of the affected pages:
http://www.greenmountainaccess.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/pubclient.php
http://www.greenmountainaccess.net/%7Ektalmage/thirdsector/pubclient.php
the relevant CSS file:
http://www.greenmountainaccess.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/style/3s_basic.css
http://www.greenmountainaccess.net/%7Ektalmage/thirdsector/style/3s_basic.css

Thanks!

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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tedd wrote:
 http://sperling.com/david/
 
 My em sizing of the image fixed the zoom problem reported with my 
 browser.

:-)

Yes, and may be well suited for an 'em-sized' layout. Use that solution
in that kind of layouts, if you like.

That particular layout is /designed/ to adjust to the available
window-width - within a range from below 600px to 60em. That's
'em-guided', *not* 'em-sized'. Run it in IE/Mac and it'll become
'em-sized' (and should work better now since David has hidden the things
IE/Mac can't handle).

Your em sizing will only make the image be chopped off earlier if
font-resizing is applied on a narrow window - for example when the
available screen-area doesn't allow the layout to grow endlessly. I have
a screen-width of 3800px available, so no problems at my end. The norm
is somewhat narrower screens, and browser windows.

So no matter what em-values you set on images, they'll normally end up
worse than with original size if font-resizing is applied, because
they'll be fighting the layout itself.

The solution is to let images adjust to the layout _when_ needed. Good
browsers solves that by letting us use regular CSS properties to resize
images to fit the layout when needed. Bad browsers and old ones can't
handle those regular CSS properties, but they are also better off with
original-sized images in that particular layout.

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[css-d] Help with floating bullets on a list

2006-09-14 Thread rvlit
Ok ... I am sure I have seen this problem addressed somewhere but can't for the 
life of me find it.
 
I want to have an image bullet float to within a few pixels to the left of a 
menu link.  Here is a sample of what is happening and the css file.  I would 
like for the check image to be a few pixels to the left of each menu / list 
item on hover but can't seem to make it happen.  Can anyone help?
 
Thanks!
 
Ralph
 
XHTML file: http://www.goobitron.com/test03.html 
 
CSS file: http://www.goobitron.com/test03.css
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[css-d] If IE window resized, floated column moves - FIXED --still curious

2006-09-14 Thread metasilk
 I have a floated column that should appear on the left. It's less
 important info, so in order that the content appear as high in source
 as possible, this left-col uses negative margins.

 It works just fine in FireFox (haven't tested Opera yet, and have
 trouble getting to Safari-running machines). On the other hand, if I
 resize the window in IE/Win, the column leaps to the right, and stays
 there unless I reload the page.

 yet stranger note: this happens on my IE/Win set up
 (IE 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519/Win XP Pro, Dell Inspiron 1100)
 and not on my client's machine (Windows,not sure which version, IE not
 sure which version).

 Does it happen on anyone else's? (Haven't had a chance to test it on
 the desktop XP Home)

 Can you help?

 One of the affected pages:
 http://www.greenmountainaccess.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/pubclient.php
 http://www.greenmountainaccess.net/%7Ektalmage/thirdsector/pubclient.php
 the relevant CSS file:
 http://www.greenmountainaccess.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/style/3s_basic.css
 http://www.greenmountainaccess.net/%7Ektalmage/thirdsector/style/3s_basic.css

 Thanks!

Turns out I needed a
position: relative;
in the containing div.

Anyone know why?

Thanks

Kir
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[css-d] custom bullet vanished on first dt in IE

2006-09-14 Thread metasilk
I'm using a custom bullet using one of those background image
techniques. This right-pointing triangle appears properly on all list
items (both li and dt) in Firefox. It does not appear on the first dt
in IE (IE 6.0.2900etc/WinXPpro), although it does in others.

The text of the definition item does not move over in any odd way;
it's just the initial background image doesn't appear in one browser
only...

Page: http://www.greenmountainaccess.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/pubproj.php
CSS: http://www.greenmountainaccess.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/style/3s_basic.css

Please advise.

Thanks!

Kir
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Re: [css-d] 4 Column Layout with a Twist

2006-09-14 Thread Ted
Hi Lynda,

 That looks like a two-column layout to me and not four.

You're right.  My apologies for using the term 'column' incorrectly.

Zoe wrote:
 I suggest you use one of the examples on our wiki page about emulating
 frames as your starting point:
 http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=EmulatingFrames


I did check the archives but somehow I missed this one:
http://limpid.nl/lab/css/fixed/left-sidebar-and-header

This is very close to what I need except for a footer, which  
shouldn't be too hard to add.  Thank you!  Now back to work. =;)

Thanks again,
Ted
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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-14 Thread tedd
At 8:29 PM +0200 9/14/06, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
tedd wrote:
http://sperling.com/david/

My em sizing of the image fixed the zoom problem reported with my browser.

:-)

Yes, and may be well suited for an 'em-sized' layout. Use that solution
in that kind of layouts, if you like.

Forgive me, I'm just a meat and potato guy  -- 
give me a problem and I'll give you the most 
obvious solution for the most obvious need.

This strange stuff you and David get into makes my head hurt. :-)

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Re: [css-d] 4 Column Layout with a Twist

2006-09-14 Thread ~davidLaakso
Ted wrote:
 Hi Lynda,

   

   I did check the archives but somehow I missed this one:
 http://limpid.nl/lab/css/fixed/left-sidebar-and-header
   
FWIW, don't forget to change the  comment above the doctype (that throws 
IE6 and down in quirksmode) to an xml declaration ?xml version=1.0 
encoding=utf-8? for the same purpose, or the page will not switch to 
standards mode in the forthcoming IE7.
 This is very close to what I need except for a footer, which  
 shouldn't be too hard to add.  Thank you!  Now back to work. =;)

 Thanks again,
 Ted

   
Best,
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Re: [css-d] IE7+zoom+collapsing list

2006-09-14 Thread francky
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Hi, I have a problem with the new zoom-feature (ctrl+) in IE7. When I zoom in
the meny seems to collapse. Is this a known problem?

full version:
http://www.molindata.se/addschakt/start.htm

Below is a short version where the problem still exists. I have tried to give
the list layout but still no difference. I also tried to set position to
relative. If I take away the list and just keep the links the problem
disappears (haven't tried it yet in the full version). Is there any other
disadvantages to have links, with no list, lined up horizontally?

short version:
http://www.molindata.se/addschakt/nav1.htm

[...]
  

Hi Kenneth,
I don't know the problem / I don't have IE7 and cannot reproduce; but 
did you try already to give the { height: 1%; } to the #nav ul ? Or 
maybe in combination with {position: relative;} ?

francky


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Re: [css-d] 4 Column Layout with a Twist

2006-09-14 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Ted wrote:
 I did check the archives but somehow I missed this one:
 http://limpid.nl/lab/css/fixed/left-sidebar-and-header

 This is very close to what I need except for a footer, which  
 shouldn't be too hard to add.  Thank you!  Now back to work. =;)
   

Ooh, you're optimistic. ;-) But yes, that should get your started. As 
David pointed out, IE 7 support may be problematic, so be sure to test 
in that browser as well (since it is getting close to being released).

Zoe

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Re: [css-d] Help with floating bullets on a list

2006-09-14 Thread jennifer ham
Here's what I did to make it happen:


div#sitenav li {
padding: 1px;
margin: 1px;
list-style: none;
text-align:right; /* i added this */
}

div#sitenav ul a {
font-family: arial, sans-serif;
color: #44;
/* display: block; */  /* i removed this */
padding: 5px 5px 5px 45px; /* changed left padding to 45px */
margin: 0;
line-height: 15px;
font-size: .70em;
text-decoration: none;
text-align: right
}

Cheers!

jennifer

On 9/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok ... I am sure I have seen this problem addressed somewhere but can't for 
 the life of me find it.

 I want to have an image bullet float to within a few pixels to the left of a 
 menu link.  Here is a sample of what is happening and the css file.  I would 
 like for the check image to be a few pixels to the left of each menu / list 
 item on hover but can't seem to make it happen.  Can anyone help?

 Thanks!

 Ralph

 XHTML file: http://www.goobitron.com/test03.html

 CSS file: http://www.goobitron.com/test03.css
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[css-d] Column styling in IE

2006-09-14 Thread TuteC
We go again! Sorry, sent it to a member instead the list.

Hello. I have a problem in
http://www.e2design.com.ar/Dev/CELP/sec.php?id=25Servicio=1. In FF it
shows a table with columns delineated in dark. But IE 6 and 7 shows
the same table, without dark lines through the columns!

Table starts:

table rules=cols summary=Facturas de cuenta
nuacute;mero 30347

captionFacturas de cuenta de strongVirgen De Lourdes
350/strong (30347)/caption
tbody
tr
   th rowspan=2 scope=colgroupPeriacute;odo/th
   th colspan=2 scope=colgroupComprobante/th

   th rowspan=2 scope=colgroupFechabr /1er Venc/th
   th rowspan=2 scope=colgroupDiacute;as/th
   th colspan=2 scope=colgroupImporte/th
   th rowspan=2 scope=colgroupFechabr /pago/th
/tr

tr
   th scope=colgroupNuacute;mero/th
   th scope=colgroupImporte/th

   th scope=colgroupAjuste/th
   th scope=colgroupTotal/th

/tr

Thanks in advance;
Eugenio.
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Re: [css-d] custom bullet vanished on first dt in IE

2006-09-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
metasilk wrote:
 This right-pointing triangle appears properly on all list items (both
  li and dt) in Firefox. It does not appear on the first dt in IE (IE 
 6.0.2900etc/WinXPpro), although it does in others.

 http://www.greenmountainaccess.net/~ktalmage/thirdsector/pubproj.php

I didn't check which IE-bug we're dealing with here, but the addition of...

dl {position: relative;}

...killed it in my IE6 (on win2K).

regards
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Re: [css-d] Help with floating bullets on a list

2006-09-14 Thread rvlit
Thank you!  That was both elegant and simple.  

Works perfectly in Firefox and will be fine with a few minor adjustments in 
IE6.  

- Original Message -
From: jennifer ham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, September 14, 2006 17:10
Subject: Re: [css-d] Help with floating bullets on a list
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org css-d@lists.css-discuss.org

 Here's what I did to make it happen:
 
 
 div#sitenav li {
 padding: 1px;
 margin: 1px;
 list-style: none;
 text-align:right; /* i added this */
 }
 
 div#sitenav ul a {
 font-family: arial, 
 sans-serif;
 color: #44;
 /* display: block; */  /* i removed this */
  padding: 5px 
 5px 5px 45px; /* changed left padding to 45px */
  margin: 0;
  line-height: 15px;
  font-size: .70em;
  text-
 decoration: none;
  text-align: right
  }
 
 Cheers!
 
 jennifer
 
 On 9/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ok ... I am sure I have seen this problem addressed somewhere 
 but can't for the life of me find it.
 
  I want to have an image bullet float to within a few pixels to 
 the left of a menu link.  Here is a sample of what is 
 happening and the css file.  I would like for the check 
 image to be a few pixels to the left of each menu / list item on 
 hover but can't seem to make it happen.  Can anyone help?
 
  Thanks!
 
  Ralph
 
  XHTML file: http://www.goobitron.com/test03.html
 
  CSS file: http://www.goobitron.com/test03.css
  
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[css-d] Dropdown in IE7

2006-09-14 Thread Ian Young
Thought I had tested this site in IE7 but of course that hadn't included the
menu!

All over the place in IE7 Candidate 1 with drop downs way off to the right!

Test page at:
http://www.iyesolutions.co.uk/templates/lvsc/template3.html

Hope this is a quick fix.

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[css-d] Netscape 7.1 Hack

2006-09-14 Thread Jeff Kilroy
I centered a page of mine using the absolute positioning / left:50% / - 
1/2 width margin method and it does not work in Netscape 7. 1 and the 
client of mine very much wants it to work in this browser, also the 
footer I have cuts off halfway. Here is the site 
http://www.kilroymultimedia.com/clients/messina/home.html
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[css-d] Link not working in Firefox

2006-09-14 Thread Portman
I am almost done with a site that worked until I added a link to the 
home page. The link works fine in IE but not in Firefox. I have searched 
high and low and am close to pulling my hair out - if someone could tell 
me why it won't work in Firefox, I would be most grateful.

Thanks,
Riva
http://www.starqualitydesigns.com/BestHealth

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Re: [css-d] page review :: ~dL

2006-09-14 Thread francky
tedd wrote:

 [...] Georg:

Oh, not so -- gifted one. Please review:  :-)

http://sperling.com/david/

[...] but the defaults seem to hold together well, see:

http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=284361

Comments?
  

Yes: both links are 404 files... ;-)
Already cleansweeped?

francky



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Re: [css-d] CSS Block Element Links

2006-09-14 Thread Daniel Klug
Daniel Klug wrote:
 Hey all,
  I'm trying to make an entire 'block' of elements into a link (like a
 table, but using spans and divs).

...

  Other browsers behave, but not IE. The text in the link is hovering
 with the 'text' cursor, but I can still click the link, but the IMG wont
 click at all. It's just weird.

...

 The example in question (Fine in FF, Broke in IE):
 http://www.redforty.com/index2.php
 
 Thanks!
 
 -Daniel

Just to add some info, the problem seems to trigger when I float 
elements within the anchor.

Perhaps there is a way to deliver it to IE with Javascript? Or maybe 
overlay a transparent .gif?

Anybody?

-Daniel
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[css-d] applying :hover pseudoclass on an inline style

2006-09-14 Thread Andy Mosmiller
I'm trying to create a little ad for an offer that I can send around to
people.  It seemed to me that the most reliable means of doing this
would be to make all of my styles inline so that people could just copy
the code into their pages.  (If there is a better way, lay it on me.)

Anyway, I would like to be able to define my own look for the a tag
within my ad, and I want to be able to include :hover and :visited
options if possible.

WC3 says it is possible, but my testing shows it to fail on all 3
PC-based browsers I have.

Theoretically:

a href=...
   style={color: bla; background: bla}
   :visited {styles for visited}
   :hover {styles for hover}
Link text/a

... but it fails.

Is this a lost cause, or am I missing something.

I'm also interested in any feedback you guys might have regarding
posting an add.  The only thing I know to do is to link to an image on
my server from within the ad, unless I can get anyone who accepts the ad
to put the image in a folder in their own webspace and change the url.
Maybe there is a better way out there.

Thanks everybody,

Andy

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Re: [css-d] Link not working in Firefox

2006-09-14 Thread Roger Roelofs
Riva,

On Sep 14, 2006, at 7:51 PM, Portman wrote:

 I am almost done with a site that worked until I added a link to the
 home page. The link works fine in IE but not in Firefox. I have 
 searched
 high and low and am close to pulling my hair out - if someone could 
 tell
 me why it won't work in Firefox, I would be most grateful.

 http://www.starqualitydesigns.com/BestHealth

#bodypart is covering up the links.  It has a relative position top of 
-110px and a margin-top of -120px  This pulls it way up over the 
header.

hth
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Re: [css-d] Link not working in Firefox

2006-09-14 Thread Portman
Thank you Roger. I have been staring at this page for so long I don't 
know what's what anymore.

Riva

Roger Roelofs wrote:
 Riva,
   
 #bodypart is covering up the links.  It has a relative position top of 
 -110px and a margin-top of -120px  This pulls it way up over the 
 header.

 hth
   
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Re: [css-d] Link not working in Firefox

2006-09-14 Thread francky
Portman wrote:

I am almost done with a site that worked until I added a link to the 
home page. The link works fine in IE but not in Firefox. I have searched 
high and low and am close to pulling my hair out - if someone could tell 
me why it won't work in Firefox, I would be most grateful.

Thanks,
Riva
http://www.starqualitydesigns.com/BestHealth
  

Hi Riva,
I have searched too for some time (it's not an easy one!), and no 
solution, but I guess a direction.
I noticed you've used temp borders for the containers in the css for 
your analysis. But in the css some containers are not mentioned (only 
the children of it) - and one of them seems to be it: the div 
id=bodypart.
See testpage 
http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/test-besthealth.htm.

If you hover in FF from the left side over the nav bar, first the 
hovering is working on the Home Page link. But as soon as you move over 
the border line, at the o of Home, the the link disappears. All 
other links in the nav-bar don't work either in FF. - And coming from 
the right, the link Comments % Questions is working until you reach the 
red border again: at the u of Questions [1].

Why this bodypart-div doesn't start under the MEMBERSHIP IS FREE! 
line, but at the top of the screen, I don't see at the moment. It has to 
do something with the (table in the) form: when you omit the form, the 
links in the nav-bar are coming back.

Greetings,
francky

[1] These are the letters at normal font size on 1024x768 resolution.

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Re: [css-d] Framing my menu (for horizontal scrolling photo gallery)

2006-09-14 Thread richard n
 Perhaps I should follow this one (as it is the most 
 current), and work through it, deleting the code I don't need (?):
 
 http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200609/css_frames_v2_fullheight/



Well I worked through the above link and tried to apply it to my 
side-scrolling gallery.

I left out the bits of the code that I thought weren't relevant to my 
site (the footer, the stuff about 100% height).

I suspect that I've inadvertently left out something vital.

Everything still looks fine in FF, Safari, Opera (all on Mac). Also the 
frame/scrolling aspect works fine in IE Mac (just the menu is out of 
joint).

But my objectivet is to get it working in IE6 PC.

No PC here, so can someone let me know if it works?

Here it is:

HTML: 
http://www.richardnicholson.com/testing/menu_with_frames3/editorial.html
CSS: http://www.richardnicholson.com/testing/menu_with_frames3/menu.css
CSS for IE6: 
http://www.richardnicholson.com/testing/menu_with_frames3/ie6.css

Thanks

Richard
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