Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-07 Thread Bob Schwartz
Going back to the original “tangent”… Philip did raise a valid point. A site should validate and validation is also a great way to catch the “silly mistakes” we introduce form copying/pasting, typing etc. However, in this age of building sites with bootstrap, jquery plugins we find to help

Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-07 Thread Barney Carroll
Bootstrap's pragmatic approach deems validity not to be a concern: https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/issues/6398 In theory, total W3 compliance will make your code behave completely predictably in any environment you care to mention. In practice, popular browsers have deviated from the spec time

Re: [css-d] Grid Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-07 Thread MiB
7 okt 2014 kl. 05:50 skrev Crest Christopher crestchristop...@gmail.com: I want to know, is this the method you use grids or is my starting point completely off the rails ? That really depends on your objective. I don't use a grid framework but use my own basic layouts, that I evolve

Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-07 Thread MiB
7 okt 2014 kl. 10:16 skrev Barney Carroll barney.carr...@gmail.com: The specifics in Bootstrap's CSS are legacy IE hacks and vendor-prefixed CSS3. Don’t throw out the baby with the bath water. Those are irrelevant errors that you can ignore as you know you’re using vendor-prefixes and IE

Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-07 Thread Philip Taylor
Barney Carroll wrote: Bootstrap's pragmatic approach deems validity not to be a concern: https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/issues/6398 I am afraid that mdo does not understand the concept of validity. He (or she) writes : All the CSS we use is valid, and while some lines are hacks (* for

[css-d] custom fonts not working in Chrome

2014-10-07 Thread Stuff @ arnoenzerink.com
Hi list, I made a new website in which I used custom fonts. It works in Firefox, Opera and IE, but in Chrome the fonts default to the standard webfont. Not sure if I'm missing something. Website: http://www.reconnectdiscover.com CSS: http://www.reconnectdiscover.com/css/styles.css Any

Re: [css-d] custom fonts not working in Chrome

2014-10-07 Thread Tom Livingston
Might be your @font-face. Try this: http://www.fontspring.com/blog/the-new-bulletproof-font-face-syntax On Tuesday, October 7, 2014, Stuff @ arnoenzerink.com st...@arnoenzerink.com wrote: Hi list, I made a new website in which I used custom fonts. It works in Firefox, Opera and IE, but in

Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-07 Thread Barney Carroll
Yeah, the impression I get it is that they're not really concerned about CSS validity. They do care about HTML validity, though – they use an automated validation reporter (no more having to open email, scan email for URL, paste URL into validator, copy link into email reply, hit send) for their

Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-07 Thread Philip Taylor
Barney Carroll wrote: This begs the question: how much should one expound on browsers that one is unfamiliar with, in general? One should not expound on them at all : one should simply state Our HTML and CSS are W3C-compliant and W3C-validated, and, as far as we are aware, render

Re: [css-d] links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-07 Thread Barney Carroll
you may do better to contact your browser vendor directly and ask them to investigate the rendering issues you have reported I'm wondering how differently my career might have worked out if all those times IE came up I'd just told the client to get onto Bill Gates about it. Maybe I'm just a

[css-d] OT : links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-07 Thread Philip Taylor
Barney Carroll wrote: I'm wondering how differently my career might have worked out if all those times IE came up I'd just told the client to get onto Bill Gates about it. If /every/ W3C-compliant web site had carried that text, the world might now be a very different (and much better)

Re: [css-d] custom fonts not working in Chrome

2014-10-07 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
Le 7 oct. 2014 à 20:28, Stuff @ arnoenzerink.com st...@arnoenzerink.com a écrit : I made a new website in which I used custom fonts. It works in Firefox, Opera and IE, but in Chrome the fonts default to the standard webfont. Not sure if I'm missing something. Website:

Re: [css-d] OT : links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-07 Thread Barney Carroll
IE and Mozilla have now committed to supporting -webkit- prefixed properties. The obvious problem is that the W3C is too slow and cumbersome for many people's desires and expectations of the web. IE6 came with a suite of incredibly powerful functionality that the rest of browser-land is only now

Re: [css-d] OT : links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-07 Thread Ms2ger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/07/2014 03:23 PM, Barney Carroll wrote: IE and Mozilla have now committed to supporting -webkit- prefixed properties. Do you have a citation for the Mozilla commitment? Last time I checked, we decided against it. Ms2ger -BEGIN PGP

Re: [css-d] OT : links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-07 Thread Barney Carroll
Oops! Sorry Ms2ger, good save. Was going off an aside Tantek made in a working group meeting in February 2012 [1] when he said Zero [webkit-prefixed properties] is no longer an option for us . I didn't read up to realize that the resolution in Gecko policy was to actively work at removing all

Re: [css-d] Grid Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-07 Thread Crest Christopher
Do you mean, will this site be displayed on mobile ? Philip Taylor mailto:p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk Tuesday, October 07, 2014 2:24 AM What is its behaviour intended to be, Christopher, when the browser window is less than 960 px wide ? Philip Taylor Crest Christopher

Re: [css-d] (no subject)

2014-10-07 Thread John E. Cavanaugh
Help! I am not subscribed - these emails started coming at random - how do I unsubscribe? John E. Cavanaugh MD. There's always a wrong way to do the right thing ... Cavanaugh's Law On Oct 7, 2014, at 8:23, Barney Carroll barney.carr...@gmail.com wrote: IE and Mozilla have now committed to

Re: [css-d] Grid Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-07 Thread Crest Christopher
MiB your message seems to go into your development process rather then on grids and columns and understanding them ! MiB mailto:digital.disc...@gmail.com Tuesday, October 07, 2014 4:52 AM That really depends on your objective. I don't use a grid framework but use my own basic layouts, that I

Re: [css-d] Grid Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-07 Thread Philip Taylor
Crest Christopher wrote: Do you mean, will this site be displayed on mobile ? No, I mean exactly what I said : what is your intended behaviour if the page is displayed in a browser window that is narrower than 960px ? __

Re: [css-d] Grid Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-07 Thread MiB
7 okt 2014 kl. 16:18 skrev Crest Christopher crestchristop...@gmail.com: MiB your message seems to go into your development process rather then on grids and columns and understanding them ! It does. My apologies. It should be clear though my grids are always different when the content is

Re: [css-d] custom fonts not working in Chrome

2014-10-07 Thread Eric
Arno, You need to load more than just .TTF files. Take a look at this page from CSS Tricks it's more up to date. Eric http://css-tricks.com/snippets/css/using-font-face/ On October 7, 2014 at 7:28 AM Stuff @ arnoenzerink.com st...@arnoenzerink.com wrote: Hi list, I made a new

Re: [css-d] Grid Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-07 Thread Crest Christopher
Using the link I provided as a base, I want to know is the route that I have taken correct in building and a site and using a grid framework ? Most frameworks include a school of divs and a school of classes in the style sheet, this is why I want to know is the starting method I took, the

Re: [css-d] Grid Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-07 Thread Crest Christopher
Would anyone be willing to create a video on when they are using a grid frame work how they begin, up to atleast half way of the development process ? Philip Taylor mailto:p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk Tuesday, October 07, 2014 10:20 AM Crest Christopher wrote: No, I mean exactly what I said :

[css-d] History and other points of interest Re: OT : links not working smartphone - tablet

2014-10-07 Thread Ben Henick
Boy, am I ever late to this party. Even so, my mind's been on these things today, so I'm writing. Also, I apologize for the threading. I inadvertently sent this to Mr. Carroll rather than the list, and if T-Bird has a secret handshake for resolving that contingency, I don't know what it is.