Re: [css-d] IE8 conditional styles bug ??

2009-08-07 Thread Allen Beach
Ingo was correct, it was a preferred stylesheet issue, I just had to take out 
the title.  Very odd, but that was the fix.  Thanks again everyone for your 
sugguestions/ ideas.

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- Allen 






From: Alan Gresley a...@css-class.com
To: Allen Beach cmkbh...@ymail.com
Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 9:03:38 PM
Subject: Re: [css-d] IE8 conditional styles bug ??

Allen Beach wrote:
 It appears that the new IE8 (when in IE8 standards mode) will not work 
 correctly when you have both inline and linked style sheets...if you're in 
 quirks or ie7 mode its fine, but the moment you switch to IE8 standards mode 
 (for both broser and docMode) your linked styles are gone!
 
 !--[if gte IE 8] !-- Not recognized unless in quirks/ie7 mode --
 link href=css/ie8.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css title=ie8
 ![endif]--
 
 test example --- http://mtroadwines.com/ie8test.htm
 
 Thanks everyone,
 ---
 - Allen 


Hello Allen,

Why do you need this. [if gte IE 8]. Echoing Al Sparber's comment, why 
do you need to feed IE8 and alternative stylesheet. BTW, before 
declaring that IE8 in standards mode still is far from perfect, maybe 
you may want to send all browsers some standard compliant code.

link href=ie8.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css title=ie8

Since you are using XHTML, maybe this will work better for IE8.


link href=ie8.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css title=ie8 /


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Re: [css-d] Looking for a way to see Mobile styled output

2009-08-07 Thread Allen Beach
Hi Elizabeth,

You can download a add-on for firefox called webdeveloper and once you get 
that, at the top you'll have a bar with a CSS - Display CSS Media Type - 
Handheld

Hope this helps,

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- Allen






From: Davies, Elizabeth elizabeth_dav...@gallup.com
To: CSS-D css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 12:02:50 PM
Subject: [css-d] Looking for a way to see Mobile styled output

My google-fu is weak and I'm turning to the community for ideas. I know this is 
off topic, except as a call for help on finding a tool.

I'm tasked with making some very large and very active websites mobile friendly 
with CSS (not for an app, but a CSS mobile style sheet on the regular website). 
Except I don't have a mobile device, and even if I did it can't connect to our 
DEV environment, nor can I expose the site to the world in any way to use the 
online emulators until it's fully tested and ready for prime time.

So ... does anyone know of an emulator, plugin or other for any common browser 
or Visual Studio 2008? Our two most common mobile visitors come in on 
Blackberry and IPhone, but the idea is to build out a test case for the least 
effort and lowest common denominator of CSS. While I find TONS of great 
resources on styling for this and have what I think should work ready for a 
look-see. What I can't find is a way to actually SEE what I'm styling.

Elizabeth


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[css-d] IE8 conditional styles bug ??

2009-08-06 Thread Allen Beach
It appears that the new IE8 (when in IE8 standards mode) will not work 
correctly when you have both inline and linked style sheets...if you're in 
quirks or ie7 mode its fine, but the moment you switch to IE8 standards mode 
(for both broser and docMode) your linked styles are gone!

!--[if gte IE 8] !-- Not recognized unless in quirks/ie7 mode --
link href=css/ie8.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css title=ie8
![endif]--

test example --- http://mtroadwines.com/ie8test.htm

Thanks everyone,
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- Allen 


  
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Re: [css-d] IE8 conditional styles bug ??

2009-08-06 Thread Allen Beach
But are you seeing BOTH inline and linked styles?

 Thanks---
- Allen






From: Ingo Chao ichaoc...@googlemail.com
To: Allen Beach cmkbh...@ymail.com
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Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 11:43:20 AM
Subject: Re: [css-d] IE8 conditional styles bug ??

If I am not wrong, my IE8 Vista (Browser mode: IE8; Document mode: IE8
Standards) applies the rules in question. I can see a square div
aquamarine, with text on it.


 test example --- http://mtroadwines.com/ie8test.htm

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Re: [css-d] IE8 conditional styles bug ??

2009-08-06 Thread Allen Beach
You should see 2 boxes, one with inline and one with linked styles...

Al Sparber - I disagree, IE8 in standards mode still is far from perfect, and 
when creating a corporate site that works in IE6/7/8 and going forward, its 
important to have a seperate style sheet that takes certain items into account. 
 Regardless, if you agree, this still appears to be a bug.

 Thanks---
- Allen 






From: Al Sparber aspar...@roadrunner.com
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Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 12:01:13 PM
Subject: Re: [css-d] IE8 conditional styles bug ??

From: Al Sparber aspar...@roadrunner.com


 From: Allen Beach cmkbh...@ymail.com
 It appears that the new IE8 (when in IE8 standards mode) will not work 
 correctly when you have both inline and linked style sheets...if you're 
 in quirks or ie7 mode its fine, but the moment you switch to IE8 
 standards mode (for both broser and docMode) your linked styles are gone!

 !--[if gte IE 8] !-- Not recognized unless in quirks/ie7 mode --
link href=css/ie8.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css title=ie8
 ![endif]--

 test example --- http://mtroadwines.com/ie8test.htm

 Seems to work fine for me.

 Given IE8 rendering in standards mode there would not seem to be much 
 reason for using conditional comments - in most cases.

Try View  Styles  IE8

Then remove the id from the link tag in your IE8 conditional comment.

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