Re: [css-d] Putting IE6 out to pasture

[Melbeach]

From: "Martyn Merrett" 
> Thought you'd be interested in this.
> Could this *finally* be the end of IE6 and our CSS woes?
> http://weblog.200ok.com.au/2009/03/putting-ie6-out-to-pasture.html

I'm still seeing 17% IE6 use. And last weekend I figured out why. Was helping 
my friend's dad with his computer. I went to Windows Update and got the old 
"This is not a valid Windows license" message. So I ask to see his xp cd and 
he hands me this old bootleg looking thing. Guy's 80 years old, using a 
bootleg xp copy. He gives me his anti-Bill Gates speech. Then it hit me. 
There's probably millions of these cd's out there - meaning millions of people 
stuck on IE6 until they decide to shell out the cash for a legit Windows copy. 
So I don't see IE6 disappearing for a long, long time. Sorry.
-melbeach 

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Re: [css-d] Putting IE6 out to pasture

[Gunlaug Sørtun]

Martyn Merrett wrote:
> Eric sent a message out earlier not to discuss/debate this further on
>  this list. Apologies for any inconvenience and lets keep our IE6 
> thoughts to ourselves, eh?

We're not discussing/debating the article that initiated this thread.
At least I am discussing how to handle, fix, workaround problems caused
by/in IE6, no matter what one thinks about it.

So far that has been in accordance with the policy on css-d, and unless
the policy has been changed lately I see nothing wrong in presenting
both problems and solutions targeted at a specific browser. That's what
nearly all threads on css-d are about anyway.

I have no real problems with IE6, so I will of course limit my responses
to solutions, and tips about how to check what works and what doesn't.
If that's wrong on css-d, then EAM should clarify things a bit more.
Otherwise we just end this thread because there's really nothing more to
say here anyway, and continue with "business as usual".

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Georg
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Re: [css-d] Putting IE6 out to pasture

[Martyn Merrett]

Eric sent a message out earlier not to discuss/debate this further on this list.
Apologies for any inconvenience and lets keep our IE6 thoughts to ourselves, eh?

Ta,

~Mx
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Re: [css-d] Putting IE6 out to pasture

[Gunlaug Sørtun]

Virgilio Quilario wrote:

> working on css to deal with ie6 is really time consuming. not to
> mention the troubles of getting ie6 browser for testing.

Both TredoSoft "multiple versions of IE"...

...and IETester...

...work well enough for comfort in a windows PC environment.

Various VM-Ware should make the above work well enough in Linux and
Mac-OS environments, for testing purposes.

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Re: [css-d] Putting IE6 out to pasture

[Virgilio Quilario]

>> Thought you'd be interested in this. Could this *finally* be the end
>> of IE6 and our CSS woes?
>
> Yes, in time IE6 will disappear - the sooner the better, but the
> suggested 'options for "not supporting" ie6' are time-consuming and
> don't provide quick relief for designers/developers.
>
> This is quick and painless...
> 
> ...and can leave IE6 with no styles or with minimal styling in no time,
> almost regardless of how one organizes ones site and CSS.
>
> I prefer the "minimal styles" route - as shown for my article, but will
> probably follow the "no change" route site-wide and for client work
> until IE7 disappears too.
> IE7 for the most part falls into the same "bug-category" as IE6, and is
> in need of the same fixes as its predecessor(s), or variants thereof,
> anyway - at least the way I work :-)
>
> More on the issue...
> 
> 
>
> Stay updated: 
>
> regards
>        Georg
> --
> http://www.gunlaug.no

nice articles.
working on css to deal with ie6 is really time consuming.
not to mention the troubles of getting ie6 browser for testing.

virgil
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Re: [css-d] Putting IE6 out to pasture

[Gunlaug Sørtun]

Martyn Merrett wrote:

> Thought you'd be interested in this. Could this *finally* be the end 
> of IE6 and our CSS woes?

Yes, in time IE6 will disappear - the sooner the better, but the
suggested 'options for "not supporting" ie6' are time-consuming and
don't provide quick relief for designers/developers.

This is quick and painless...

...and can leave IE6 with no styles or with minimal styling in no time,
almost regardless of how one organizes ones site and CSS.

I prefer the "minimal styles" route - as shown for my article, but will
probably follow the "no change" route site-wide and for client work
until IE7 disappears too.
IE7 for the most part falls into the same "bug-category" as IE6, and is
in need of the same fixes as its predecessor(s), or variants thereof,
anyway - at least the way I work :-)

More on the issue...



Stay updated: 

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Georg
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[css-d] Putting IE6 out to pasture

[Martyn Merrett]

Hi folks,

Thought you'd be interested in this.
Could this *finally* be the end of IE6 and our CSS woes?

http://weblog.200ok.com.au/2009/03/putting-ie6-out-to-pasture.html

~Mx
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