Re: [css-d] Say no to CSS hacks with branching techniques

2005-10-07 Thread Michael Landis
On 10/6/05, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christian Heilmann wrote: I do understand the idea, however, I dislike the idea of adding a JavaScript containing document.write and mixing structure and behaviour layer I don't see how we're mixing structure and behavior here... I

Re: [css-d] Say no to CSS hacks with branching techniques

2005-10-07 Thread Al Sparber
From: Michael Landis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think we're getting very close to a debate on personal beliefs and preferences (the importance of browser support versus the importance of clean code). Perhaps it would suffice to add a note in the article mentioning that, using your techniques,

Re: [css-d] Say no to CSS hacks with branching techniques

2005-10-07 Thread Michael Landis
On 10/7/05, Al Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Michael Landis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think we're getting very close to a debate on personal beliefs and preferences (the importance of browser support versus the importance of clean code). Perhaps it would suffice to add a note in the

Re: [css-d] Say no to CSS hacks with branching techniques

2005-10-07 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Michael Landis wrote: I don't see how we're mixing structure and behavior here... I think we're getting very close to a debate on personal beliefs and preferences (the importance of browser support versus the importance of clean code). Clean code? I'll mention the pros and cons of this

Re: [css-d] Say no to CSS hacks with branching techniques

2005-10-07 Thread Ben Curtis
On Oct 6, 2005, at 9:19 AM, Thierry Koblentz wrote: I would appreciate your feedback so I can improve this article: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/branching.asp You might want to add tips on where and how to place alternative stylesheets, or those for other media such as for print or

Re: [css-d] Say no to CSS hacks with branching techniques

2005-10-07 Thread Al Sparber
From: Michael Landis [EMAIL PROTECTED] My point is that everyone's point of view in this discussion is right, from their perspective. I agree with you that Netscape 4's embedding of the styling in the behavior layer makes the behavior-versus-presentation argument moot for it, and I also agree

ADMIN: Re: [css-d] Say no to CSS hacks with branching techniques

2005-10-07 Thread Adam Kuehn
Thierry Koblentz wrote: Clean code? I'll mention the pros and cons of this important issue when others will stop using the box model hack ;) I understand that this is humor, and I don't mind to sound like I'm against a little levity, but let's take the thread off-list now, please, and spare

Re: [css-d] Say no to CSS hacks with branching techniques

2005-10-07 Thread Ben Curtis
On Oct 7, 2005, at 9:30 AM, Duckworth, Nigel wrote: Since I do not put IE 6 into quirks mode, this means that I do need to use hacks to separate the box model IE 5 stuff from the box model IE 6 standards stuff. Don't you mean you do not do not? If IE6 is in stds mode as you say, wouldn't

[css-d] Say no to CSS hacks with branching techniques

2005-10-06 Thread Thierry Koblentz
I would appreciate your feedback so I can improve this article: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/branching.asp Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] Say no to CSS hacks with branching techniques

2005-10-06 Thread Christian Heilmann
I would appreciate your feedback so I can improve this article: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/branching.asp It is an OK idea, however writing out pre 5 stylesheets via JavaScript is overkill IMHO. I have yet to encounter a project that would have a budget catering for optimisation for old,

Re: [css-d] Say no to CSS hacks with branching techniques

2005-10-06 Thread Kristina Floyd
Thierry Koblentz wrote: I would appreciate your feedback so I can improve this article: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/branching.asp Great article The only thing I'd also like to see is an example of all the forks together in the header. eg; is there or should there be a priority to the

Re: [css-d] Say no to CSS hacks with branching techniques

2005-10-06 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Christian Heilmann wrote: I would appreciate your feedback so I can improve this article: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/branching.asp It is an OK idea, however writing out pre 5 stylesheets via JavaScript is overkill IMHO. I have yet to encounter a project that would have a I'd say the

Re: [css-d] Say no to CSS hacks with branching techniques

2005-10-06 Thread Christian Heilmann
Christian Heilmann wrote: I would appreciate your feedback so I can improve this article: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/branching.asp It is an OK idea, however writing out pre 5 stylesheets via JavaScript is overkill IMHO. I have yet to encounter a project that would have a I'd

Re: [css-d] Say no to CSS hacks with branching techniques

2005-10-06 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Christian Heilmann wrote: It is an OK idea, however writing out pre 5 stylesheets via JavaScript is overkill IMHO. I have yet to encounter a project that would have a I'd say the opposite. If you use LINK to import a basic sheet, then you have to rework most of the rules for modern browsers

Re: [css-d] Say no to CSS hacks with branching techniques

2005-10-06 Thread Al Sparber
From: Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christian Heilmann wrote: It is an OK idea, however writing out pre 5 stylesheets via JavaScript is overkill IMHO. I have yet to encounter a project that would have a I don't follow you here. One does not have to write a sheet for old browsers,

Re: [css-d] Say no to CSS hacks with branching techniques

2005-10-06 Thread Christian Heilmann
On 10/6/05, Al Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christian Heilmann wrote: It is an OK idea, however writing out pre 5 stylesheets via JavaScript is overkill IMHO. I have yet to encounter a project that would have a I don't follow you here.

Re: [css-d] Say no to CSS hacks with branching techniques

2005-10-06 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Christian Heilmann wrote: I do understand the idea, however, I dislike the idea of adding a JavaScript containing document.write and mixing structure and behaviour layer I don't see how we're mixing structure and behavior here... Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com