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Microsoft nein danke: snoop scares dog US IT in Europe
By: John Lettice
Posted: 19/03/2001 at 19:38 GMT
IDG's Berl
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>You think the FBI might be interested?
They may very well be more than interested. See:
http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/34.html
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http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/30.html
http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/31.html
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Mar 9, 2001 - 12:48 PM
Police Destroy Drugs Stashed by Milosevic Loyalists
The Associated Press
BELGRADE, Yugoslavia (AP) - Serbia's interior minister said Friday that
loyalists of ousted Yugoslav strongman Slobodan Milosevic stashed
hundreds of pounds of drugs in the ministry'
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>> Some pagans did that. Most didnt. The pagans best known to us for
the
>> practice were the Carthagenians.
>Not in my neighborhood. The best known, were the Moloch worshipers.
Same guys. They were ethnic Phoenicians, a colony.
>Evidently the same didn't apply to the charm
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Subject:[CogLib] Shakespeare on Drugs
Analysis of Shakespeare's Pipes Finds Residue
of cocaine, myristic acid, tobacco, and hints of marijuana.
Dr. Francis Tha
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> According to the international group "Witnesses For Pease," ***FIVE
HUNDRED THOUSAND*** innocent Iraqi children **PER YEAR** have died
horrific deaths (curable infection, starvation, etc.) via the
"humanitarian economic sanctions" Bush Sr. instituted in '91 at the end
of the Pe
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>Whose heart do I hear breaking for the late Vince Foster?
Whose heart do I hear breaking for the half million Iraqi civilians,
almost all of them women and children, who died as a result of Clinton's
blockade of Iraq?
If one rails against Clinton, and not even mentions his sing
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>Even so, I doubt that boonie towns were integrated.
If the OT has any truth to it, the suppression of paganism within
Israelite controlled territory went on for something like 800 years. To
me this says pagans were spread around pretty widely.
>That's my point. She either did
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>Samaritan is an indicator of how separate the Jewish and Pagan cultures
were.
Samaritans had the same status as tornado bait trailer trash do in
certain
circles in Arkansas. The kind Samaritan was the exception to the rule.
Samaritans aren't pagans. See: http://lexicorient.
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>He would not even have had access to such a person. There were no Pagan
temples in Jewish Jerusalem.
Jesus grew up in the boondocks, not the capital. Pagans were common,
even after nearly a millennium of Jewish repression. All the Jews did
was drive out the temples. The pagans r
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>killed the Mars probes.
If I lived on Mars, and I heard that the Earthlings were coming
(especially Russians or Americans), I'd shoot 'em down as soon as they
came into range. Otherwise they'd kill me, rape my wife, and steal
everything I owned. Then my grand children would fin
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>I would speculate that the person who originally dubbed Mary Magdalene
as a prostitute was incensed upon realizing that a woman could possibly
have been the first Apostle.
There's another explanation. The pagans who lived in the area practiced
ritual prostitution as part of thei
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>What do you think?
There aren't enough data in yet to draw a valid conclusion. But humanity
is a lot older, and has been getting around the planet for a lot longer
time, than most people are willing to admit.
The Sundra straight cannot be crossed by chance drifting. The curre
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> As for von Braun ...He was a German and not a Nazi; further, during
WWII he once said he would rather go to the moon than win the war - fpr
von Braun was a real nobleman and not a nazi peasant.
Von Braun was an avid Nazi. He was an officer in the SS. He was also a
Class-
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> According to www.stopcarnivore.org/ there are only
> two (2) internet service providers
> in the US which have publicly stated that they will
> not permit the FBI's illegal
> carnivore equipment to be used to spy upon their
> customers: Earthlink.net and RMI.net
>
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>I find it hard to believe all these assorted problems with the food
supply are mere coincidence.
It might be bio-economic warfare.
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>> If this were true, the mega fauna of Africa would have been
exterminated long ago. Mankind has been in Africa longer than it has
been anywhere.
>You're only HALF right. The second sentence is theoretical speculation.
Until more data come in, it's the only theoretical specu
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>to many fags
It seems to me that anybody who is seriously into heterosexuality should
be out there promoting homosexuality as hard as possible because it cuts
down on the competition.
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>He has determined, using a computer simulation, that even a very modest
amount of hunting would have wiped these animals out.
If this were true, the mega fauna of Africa would have been exterminated
long ago. Mankind has been in Africa longer than it has been anywhere.
www.ctr
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Church and State are two fingers on the same hand.
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>Nine years ago, members of a narcotics task force were using a thermal
imaging camera
Thermal imaging technology is the tip of the iceberg. Check out
through-the-wall radar: http://www.millivision.com
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They seem to
be trying to break this to us gently.
For details, see:
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> She is a good role model
She's a lying hypocrite. She promotes disarming working class mothers so
they can't protect their children from rapists and murderers. Yet, being
rich and thus able to afford it, she has hired an armed bodyguard for
her own kid. In the highly unlikely e
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>claiming Art Bell to be a disinformation agent while the former pair
aren't.
These things are not mutually preclusive.
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>And they seemed to invite it.
You don't need to be a business with employees in order to be a church.
You don't even need to worship in public. Jesus himself said it was
better to pray in a closet than "aloud on a street corner."
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Thank YOU, Kris, for providing a place for all this
>thought provoking news, views and commentary.
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Bush's Iran-Contra pardons (12/25/92 L.A.Times article)
Friday, December 25, 1992
Home Edition
Section: PART A
Page: A-1
Bush Pardons Weinberger, 5 Others in Iran-Contra; Act Called Cover-Up;
Inquiry: Prosecutor accuses President of misconduct, claims Bush kept
own
no
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> Ah, the hypocrisy
Indeed, but only if these stories are true. But even if they are, so
what? It's insignificant. He killed a half million Iraqi civilians.
Almost of them were women and children. And you're upset because
somebody said he used non PC language!?! That's grotesque
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>Organized Chinese crime groups are also using Panama as a base for the
smuggling of narcotics, illegal aliens and arms, according to a U.S.
Customs Service intelligence report.
Which report was that? Is it online anywhere?
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Subject:Fwd: {FP} An astonishing letter of support for WBAI
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Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 01:37:59 -0500
Subject: {FP} An as
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>Is there a particular reason you removed the CONTEXT?
What are you talking about? What context?
>>>MJ
You do comprehend Statism?
>>Nessie
Yup. What of it?
>MJ
Your PREVIOUS comments when compared with the above remarks would
indicate ot
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>Your premise is logical but wrong. Logic is only a human construct.
Nature is. Hierarchy is the norm.
It's not my logic. It's a basic axiom of anthropology, real 101, first
semester stuff. If everybody does something, its human nature. If only
some people do it, its not huma
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>Could this be a CIA psy-op or something?
In 1988 conspiracy maven John Judge spoke at a conference in San
Francisco that I had helped organize. Heres what he said about
Jonestown:
**
The situation that I found when I looked into Jonestown, is the last
thing that I jus
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>You do comprehend Statism?
Yup. What of it?
> Not that you provide support for *any* of your drivel (as I remain
on vigil for your pre-socialist schools literacy details) ...
I posted a bunch of pointers yesterday. Scroll back.
>How will an education through 'cooperatio
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I can't vouch for all these numbers, but it makes a good read anyway.
-- nessie
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>This is errant nonsense and statist sophistry.
Who said anything about statism? I dont think the government should run
the schools, either. I just dont want to to see them fall into the
hands of the corporations. That would be much, much worse. Personally,
Id prefer to see s
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>Humans seem to love hierarchy (is it hardwired into the system?)
Hierarchy is not hardwired into the system or else there would be no non
hierarchical cultures. When, however, when hierarchy is imposed on a
population, most members of that population tend to want to not feel
l
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> IN A LETTER TO DR. CLARENCE GAMBLE, Dec 19, 1939:
Where was this letter published? (Include ISBN, please) Is it online
somewhere? What did the rest of the letter say?
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ast as you can and hope they dont shoot you the
back. If they shoot you anyway, as youre lying there dying, youre
going to have some last thoughts. One of them, I guarantee, will be, I
should have listened to nessie about this. Is that REALLY what you want
to have for a last thought? Think about
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>>Some of you may enjoy reading the following book:
http://www.centuryone.com/1849-3.html
See also any encyclopedia, Wells, Gibbon, Knox, Perry, Durant, etc. It's
not hard to find.
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Sorry, I hit the wrong button. I should have hit the Paste button first.
It was supposed to say:
But I think I sound much more like a Jesuit. At least that's what
people tell me. A rabbi can wear you down with his logic as well as
Jesuit, but when a Jesuit sees that it is going
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Nessie wrote:
&
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>"Violence against anyone" is a false statement. Violence is the only
way
to handle some people, hence self-defense.
>Keep it simple, stupid.
You're right. I was being overly complex. Sorry. I'll try better next
time.
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>I agree. But since we have institutionalized a system where Govt usurps
citizens funds to pay for so called public education... a voucher system
is an improvement over the failed system now in place.
(1.) The system now in place is flawed, but it certainly has not failed.
Before
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>>>Violence against anyone is bad.
>>>If he stalks you or breaks into your house - shot'em in the balls.
>Make up your mind.
>Self Defense is THE basic human right.
>Self defense against those who commit violence is a social
good.
Self defense against those who commit v
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You are equating homelessness with mental illness. If you had ever spent
any time around homeless people you would know better. Some mentally ill
people are homeless. Others are not. Some mentally ill people not only
live indoors, they even hold political office.
Some homeless pe
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>Ha Ha, another Silly Geek ToughGuy!!
Just one more mouth breathing girlie boy.
You're just another internet coward, mouthing off from a safe distance.
How come none of you guys ever mouth off to my face? I'm not THAT hard
to track down. Bring it on.
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>Nothing is more "classist" then the present Govt School System. The
children of the Elite attend excellent private schools. The children of
the middle class generally attend mediocre Govt Schools that are
continually declining in the quality of the eduation offered - at an
incr
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>Violence against anyone is bad.
>If he stalks you or breaks into your house - shot'em in the balls.
Make up your mind.
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>By all State / National / International comparative achievement tests
performed over the past 30 years.
Which ones? Be specific or we may justifiably assume that you are making
it up.
>Again you make no sense. For every kid no longer attending Govt School
LESS public money is
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> This is basic information available in any public library (or basic
Net Search).
DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.
That's an extremely lame excuse for having posted something porported to
be fact, but not proven. The burden of proof is on the person who
states an alleged fact. If you
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>The people at this agency are delighted
And what agency might that be?
>You know nothing about me nor my qualifications
Nor which agency you work for.
But we can guess.
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Zoos raided as German
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>NESSIE, as for your threats to "hurt" the poster,
I did no such thing. I merely defined the conditions under which I
would hurt the poster (or anybody else, for that matter). I did this by
once again restating the by now well known fact that I require people i
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>Would Leahy be saying this if it were HIS house being trashed?
He's just one more American. That means that it's exactly as much his as
it is yours. His taxes, as well as your own, pay for the clean up.
Personally, I think the White House ought to be used for a homeless
shel
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>the numbers are a bit more complex than that
Indeed they are. For one thing, as you astutely pointed out, bias makes
the real figures difficult to ascertain. More important though, is that
the wrong thing is being measured. Comparing the rate at which public
teachers send their
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>dumber than ever
Says who? By what standards? Cite your sources.
>For every kid that leaves Government School to attend private school,
it costs the Government School System that much less.
For every kid that leaves Government School to attend private school,
the public schoo
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>This is false. Many good quality private Catholic schools charge less
then $3000 per year. Many new start up inner city private schools now
charge less then $2500. Of course most Govt Schools now charge about
$10,000 per year.
Sources, please.
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>Why should both issues be mutually exclusive?
They're not, but to listen to the right, you'd think they were. I can
understand the rightist politicos making a big deal out of sex, out
vandalism, out of anything in the world except Clinton's war crimes
because they share his g
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> Why do people equate "[educating] every single member to the greatest
extent of their ability" with maintaining the current public school
fiasco in many cities?
I don't. I do, however, recognize that taking money away from an already
cash strapped system will only make it worse
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Here is a tidbit sent to me when I was down in DC for the
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Trent Lotts History on
Issues of Race and Sexual Orie
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The Two Faces of the Republican Party
HOME | RICHARD M. S
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>The White House and Air Force One are maintained by our tax dollars, so
every American citizen should be outraged, if not over the blatant
display of sophomoric vindictiveness of the outgoing administration,
then over the blatant distruction and theft of public property.
With
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>I am a little surprised, but not much, to see you defending this
notorious drunk driver.
I'm not defending Kennedy or drink driving. I'm merely pointing out that
if you objectively investigate the impirical data in the Chappaquidick
case, rather than just taking his enemies' w
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In 1988, noted conspiracy maven John Judge spoke at a conference that I
helped organize in San Francisco. He took questions from the audience.
Here's an excerpt:
Audience Member: Can you say just a few words about the Chappaquiddick
incident?
John Judge: Yes. Ted Kenn
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>If it "appars to ALL THE WORLD" that I have called somebody a "coon"
why did no one else attack me?
I got there first. The other people were apparently polite enough not to
waste bandwidth with a bunch of dittos.
>you, NESSIE are a LIA
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>childless people... would not be paying taxes to support schools that
our nonexistent children are not attending.
It is difficult to tell, without knowing you personally, whether you are
a supremely selfish person or merely shortsighted. I'll give you the
benefit of the doubt
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>Yes, it is interesting that the anti-choice fanatics only seem to care
about fetal tissue before it comes to term, and completely ignore the
plight of the fetus AFTER it reaches term...
There is a very simple explanation. They are EVIL.
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>So, you don't think Clinton's wife and daughter were hurt by his
marital infidelity?
maybe, maybe not. It depends on their attitude.
>According to many religions, sex under the circumstances that Clinton
and Lewinsky engaged in it IS 'immoral'.
That doesnt make it immoral. M
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>Most people acknowledge the "follies of youth."
By that logic, we ought to turn the Manson gang loose. After all, they
were pretty young at the time they killed those people.
>Nobody cares about Clinton's sex life!
That is patently false. He wouldnt have lied about it i
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>FYI--The Real Story of Rosa Parks
>There is no reason for you to be so rude to me and ask
if I am stupid. See that "FYI" in the subject line?
That means "Forwarded for Your Information" and is a
disclaimer. It means I do not endorse the post.
Sorry. I didn't realize it was
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>Yet those wanting to detract from him act as though this just happened
the way Clinton's sexcapades did.
Apples and oranges. Bush endangered lives, maybe yours, maybe mine, and
definitely his own. Clinton had sex. Nobody got hurt from Clinton
having sex with Monica till the p
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> > >
> > FBI - Freedom of Information Act - Highlander Folk
> School
> > http://foia.fbi.gov/hfschool.htm
> >
>
So this is what the FBI says, and you believe it!?! This is the FBI
we're talking about. Wake up! The FBI is a known terrorist organization.
No member of th
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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:39:25 -0800
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>You should TRULY learn the fucking difference between PRIVATE and
GOVERNMENT.
They are two fingers on the same hand.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think he lied about it, he never
brought it
to the forefront, much like Clinton and his sexual escapades (legacy). I
wonder if he'll keep with recently created tradition in the Whitehouse
of
having dignitaries wait while he has oral sex in the most
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>``Everyone who enters into public service for the United States has a
duty to the American people to maintain the highest standards of
integrity in government,'' Bush said in the memo.
This from a guy who drove drunk, got busted and lied about it.
Integrety? Gimme a break.
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>I can readily see why you hate Ashcrofters would be so meticulous about
the qualifications of your new Attorney General, after the shining
example provided over 8 years by the AG of the most ethical
administration in the history of the nation.
I can't speak for anybosy else, of
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On Thursday, I walked from the Capitol building to the White House via
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> Clinton will acknowledge he may have made misleading statements in his
sworn testimony in the Lewinsky matter
"may have"!?! Gimme a break.
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Skolnick is more reliable when he is reporting the past then when he is
predicting the future, but then so is everybody else.
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So where did the hole come from then?
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>In a new bill introduced in the House of Representatives on January 3,
Rep.
Bob Barr proposed to eliminate the longstanding official prohibition
against assassination.
>dubbed "The Terrorist Elimination Act of 2001,"
Hmn.
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>From January 18, 2001 News Insider http://newsinsider.cjb.net/
Vatican Sued for Looting Nazi Gold Under CIA, MI Permission
The Lawsuit Against the Vatican and the CIA
By Jonathan Levy *
17 January 2001
I am co-lead counsel for plaintiffs on two class action lawsuit
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>What they really fear, however, is that Ashcroft in fact will enforce
the laws, evenhandedly and vigorously.
Janet Reno did precisely this in the Elian Gonzales case, and the right
threw a hissy fit. What a bunch of hypocrites.
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>Sources please.
http://www.discovery.com/exp/mammoth/mammoth.html
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>Police from 16 federal, state and local agencies will line the parade
route. In addition, police in helicopters, sharpshooters on rooftops,
and police on horseback will watch over the protests. Plainclothes
officers will be circulating among the crowds. For the first time in
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> became of the mastadon
It wasn't a mastadon. It was a mammoth. It's being studied.
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