Re: [CTRL] 10 Reasons To Legalize ALL Drugs

2000-05-16 Thread c. watson
The original post contained U.S. mortality data on tobacco, alcohol, legal and illegal drugs. I suddenly need this data. Could this be reposted with cites? This will save me an hour or more of research. C. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a

Re: [CTRL] 10 Reasons To Legalize ALL Drugs

2000-05-15 Thread Tenorlove
From what I've seen, the 2 biggest moneymakers must now be Zithromax, an antibiotic, and Lipitor, a cholesterol-lowering drug. Neither is available as a generic, neither are in insurance company formularies, hence, you pay through the nose for them. And I wouldn't be surprised if the doctors are

Re: [CTRL] 10 Reasons To Legalize ALL Drugs

2000-05-15 Thread Kathleen
On 15 May 00, at 6:19, Tenorlove wrote: they refuse to prescribe lower-priced meds, even if one is available for the condition. Cite please? -- Kathleen "When liberty is taken away by force, it can be restored by force. When it is relinquished voluntarily by default, it can neve r be

Re: [CTRL] 10 Reasons To Legalize ALL Drugs

2000-05-15 Thread tenebroust
Great article Nessie, and you make a good point, which explains why drugs are not legal now and probably won't be for a while. It would be a matter of economics if the holders of the patents (if there were such a thing) were the Nazi ex-patriots and our own deep black intelligence agencies,

Re: [CTRL] 10 Reasons To Legalize ALL Drugs

2000-05-15 Thread tenebroust
Another excellent point. As it does seem obvious that the "controllers" wish to control all aspects of our lives, including one's attempt at spiritual advancement and one's seeking after the numinous and the pursuit of happiness. Drugging us to death with "legal" drugs and forcing us to toe

Re: [CTRL] 10 Reasons To Legalize ALL Drugs

2000-05-14 Thread blue honey
I've always believed the rumor that Marlboro IS set up and ready for the legalization of pot, and from what I hear, they could have their product in stores within one work week of the law passing. If they do legalize pot in my lifetime...wherever it's legal to sell it, that's where you'll find

Re: [CTRL] 10 Reasons To Legalize ALL Drugs

2000-05-14 Thread pmeares
Several years ago I posted these numbers on the Extropian list and got reamed for posting 'sloppy research' and 'libertarian propaganda'. One comment that stuck out over all this time was that, "stats are often used like drunks use lampposts -- for support rather the illumination". Kris

Re: [CTRL] 10 Reasons To Legalize ALL Drugs

2000-05-14 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Is there anyone here who doubts for one minute that if Pfizer, or some other major pharmaceutical firm held a patent for exclusive manufacturing rights to Cocaine, or Marijuana, or Heroin, that those drugs would not be legal right now and being sold everywhere?

Re: [CTRL] 10 Reasons To Legalize ALL Drugs

2000-05-14 Thread tenebroust
You are absolutely right, of course, regarding the uses of information for propaganda. I am in favor of people being allowed to smoke as well, and to drink to their hearts content. Anyway, it is usually the "Nazi" abolitionists who quote numbers to stir up response, especially when you can

Re: [CTRL] 10 Reasons To Legalize ALL Drugs

2000-05-14 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: The war on drugs is about war on the joy de vivre - on the expansive spirit. The war on (some) drugs is a war against personal autonomy. There is one reason and one reason only to end the war. It's reason enough. It's your body. You have a right to do

Re: [CTRL] 10 Reasons To Legalize ALL Drugs

2000-05-14 Thread Samantha L.
In a message dated 5/14/00 9:02:09 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there anyone here who doubts for one minute that if Pfizer, or some other major pharmaceutical firm held a patent for exclusive manufacturing rights to Cocaine, or Marijuana, or Heroin, that those drugs

Re: [CTRL] 10 Reasons To Legalize ALL Drugs

2000-05-12 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Anyways how many people die from illegal drugs every year as compared with "legal" drugs (pharmaceuticals, alcohol, tobacco)? Cars kill 50,000 Americans a year. Do we try to ban cars? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER

Re: [CTRL] 10 Reasons To Legalize ALL Drugs

2000-05-12 Thread Kris Millegan
In a message dated 5/12/00 7:56:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Anyways how many people die from illegal drugs every year as compared with "legal" drugs (pharmaceuticals, alcohol, tobacco)? 0 from marijuana 6,000 from illegal drugs, one-third of those

Re: [CTRL] 10 Reasons To Legalize ALL Drugs

2000-05-11 Thread William Shannon
In a message dated 5/10/00 9:21:21 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks William. I am a proponent for total legalization. Please see my comments inserted below. . . Well, I am too! (And please call me Bill) I am outspoken about it too...even have a plan for

Re: [CTRL] 10 Reasons To Legalize ALL Drugs

2000-05-11 Thread tenebroust
Weel, Bill, glad to hear that you are vocal for legalization. I favor the widespread availability of drugs of every kind, as long as people are able to make informed decisions about the effects such things have on the body and are not forced to partake or bombarded with propaganda from the

Re: [CTRL] 10 Reasons To Legalize ALL Drugs

2000-05-10 Thread tenebroust
Thanks William. I am a proponent for total legalization. Please see my comments inserted below. . . On Tue, 09 May 2000, William Shannon wrote: 10 Reasons to legalise all drugs 1 Address the real issues For too long policy makers have used prohibition as a smoke screen to avoid

[CTRL] 10 Reasons To Legalize ALL Drugs

2000-05-09 Thread William Shannon
10 Reasons to legalise all drugs 1 Address the real issues For too long policy makers have used prohibition as a smoke screen to avoid addressing the social and economic factors that lead people to use drugs. Most illegal and legal drug use is recreational. Poverty and despair are at the root of