Re: [CTRL] Osama bin who?

2003-01-02 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- Bin laden was NEVER concerned with Israel ­ his target has always been Saudi rule, and taking the Americans who are in his way, defiling the holy land. Israel does not enter into it ­ and has never been at the root of 9/11 Of course Binny does not want to attack Israel. The

[CTRL] Osama bin who?

2003-01-01 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/fr/fr021227_1_n.shtml Osama bin who? In September 2001, an American request for the Israelis to share their information about Osama bin Laden went unanswered. At first, the Americans thought the Israelis were for some

Re: [CTRL] Osama bin who?

2003-01-01 Thread thew
Title: Re: [CTRL] Osama bin who? -Caveat Lector- Exactly. Bin laden was NEVER concerned with Israel his target has always been Saudi rule, and taking the Americans who are in his way, defiling the holy land. Israel does not enter into it and has never been at the root of 9/11 You guys

Re: [CTRL] Osama bin who?

2003-01-01 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/1/2003 3:05:30 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which is it – is Israel evil because the mossad knows too much, or because they don’t know enough? How about because they don't give a crap about the alleged assailant of their only

Re: [CTRL] Osama bin who?

2003-01-01 Thread thew
Title: Re: [CTRL] Osama bin who? -Caveat Lector- You have avoided my question, but I expected that, really before 9/11 should Israel have presumed him a threat? If he was such a threat, why did the republican led congress stop bill Clinton from pursuing him I the Sudan... Why should Israel

Re: [CTRL] Osama bin who?

2003-01-01 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/1/2003 3:41:13 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: before 9/11 should Israel have presumed him a threat? You'd think their highly touted intel agency would have them on the radar...and probably did, they WERE monitoring them here in the states

Re: [CTRL] Osama bin who?

2003-01-01 Thread thew
Title: Re: [CTRL] Osama bin who? -Caveat Lector- The point is he was not a presumed threat to Israel so are you saying the Mossad is supposed to be part of the US intelligence system? I thought you would think that that would be a bad thing, given what you usually say here. As to Netanyahu

Re: [CTRL] Osama bin who?

2003-01-01 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/1/2003 4:29:58 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The point is he was not a presumed threat to Israel – so are you saying the Mossad is supposed to be part of the US intelligence system? We pay for it, we sustain the whole damned nation,

Re: [CTRL] Osama bin who?

2003-01-01 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/1/2003 4:46:55 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By the way, America's entire policy in the Middle East and elsewhere is the problem...blowback is going to be inevitable until we learn to butt out of the affairs of other sovereign nations and

Re: [CTRL] Osama bin who?

2003-01-01 Thread thew
Title: Re: [CTRL] Osama bin who? -Caveat Lector- on 01/01/03 5:46 PM, William Shannon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The point is he was not a presumed threat to Israel so are you saying the Mossad is supposed to be part of the US intelligence system? We pay for it, we sustain the whole damned

Re: [CTRL] Osama bin who?

2003-01-01 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/1/2003 4:53:16 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wait – the article we are discussing says they did not have info on Osama – so I am not sure what they were supposed to inform of us. They were tracking people who were allegedly Osama's

Re: [CTRL] Osama bin who?

2003-01-01 Thread thew
Title: Re: [CTRL] Osama bin who? -Caveat Lector- on 01/01/03 6:00 PM, William Shannon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please that is so unsubstantiated as to be ridiculous. It was reaffirmed by Odigo just recently. The odigo stuff was a) inside Israel, not warning anyone at WTC, and B

Re: [CTRL] Osama bin who?

2003-01-01 Thread William Shannon
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/1/2003 5:19:13 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a forum that thrives on speculation, lets play the hypothetical game. Of course it is impossible to tell – but it is possible to state your opinion of what May have happened. Seriously –

Re: [CTRL] Osama bin who?

2003-01-01 Thread thew
Title: Re: [CTRL] Osama bin who? -Caveat Lector- Then it should be just as impossible to say that israel was the cause of the attacks, which is just as much speculation yet you feel quite comfy with the assertion. on 01/01/03 6:21 PM, William Shannon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat