Re: [CTRL] vs. socialism, vs. capitalism, what now?

1998-12-25 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Someone wrote: Where would Monsanto be without the F.D.A.? Kenn Thomas wrote: This seems like a cart-before-the-horse question. The FDA is staffed with people from industry. Like the other government agencies, it is a weak force compared to the realities of

Re: [CTRL] vs. socialism, vs. capitalism, what now?

1998-12-25 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Nurev wrote: It's the Capitalist Elites who enjoy the fruits of Socialism by owning the government. And it's the poor and working class who enjoy the bitter leftovers of capitalism. MJ wrote: Your blatant contradiction of yourself aside ... Capitalism r

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Time to End CEOs 5-Year NAFTA Party

1998-12-25 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- Dispelling mythology ... William Hugh Tunstall wrote: Yes, we do need trade unions. MJ: Why? To artificially inflate wages, costs and further unemployment? William Hugh Tunstall wrote: And NAFTA is a harbinger of the end of the American middle class. MJ: Certainl

[CTRL] A cliché was Re: Time to End CEOs 5-Year NAFTA Party

1998-12-25 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- William Hugh Tunstall wrote: If you've read Ravi Batra's critique of free trade, he points out that the "trickle-down" economic policies of the Reagan years inevitably must end in class division...and an eventual economic meltdown, sooner or later. The 'Tric

Re: [CTRL] Gemstone Files (conspiracy)

1998-12-25 Thread Bill Kingsbury
-Caveat Lector- >On 23 Dec 98, Linda forwarded: > > I was the author, in 1975, of "A Skeleton Key to the Gemstone Files", > available on CompuServe and must reading for anyone who wants to > understand how and why our society has deteriorated to the point it > has. The story BEHIND

[CTRL] Wire & mail fraud too.

1998-12-25 Thread nurev
-Caveat Lector- From: Sam Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> UNDERNEWS [Progressive Review] DID CLINTON LEGAL FUND DEFRAUD DONORS? Insight Magazine reports that some federal investigators and private lawyers view Clinton's legal defense fund solicitations as racketeering-related mail and wire fraud s

[CTRL] End NAFTA

1998-12-25 Thread nurev
-Caveat Lector- Subject: Time to End CEOs 5-Year NAFTA Party Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 17:12:57 -0500 From: Robert Weissman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Multiple recipients of list CORP-FOCUS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It has been a five-year party for multination

Re: [CTRL] Merry Christmas

1998-12-25 Thread Gavin Phillips
-Caveat Lector- Merry Christmas to everyone. Gavin. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths,

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: "Secret Evidence" Against Bill Too Shocking for

1998-12-25 Thread Sno0wl
-Caveat Lector- On 25 Dec 98 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 12/24/98 11:08:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Well, at long last. I'm so glad to hear someone else say it. Seemed > > to me that all through this business Starr's "

Re: [CTRL] CHRISTMAS WISHES

1998-12-25 Thread Kenn Thomas
-Caveat Lector- Hey, hold on! I'm just cross-posting this for discussion. It doesn't come from me--but I don't take it as "bitter". Righteously pissed off, maybe, but far less bitter than the latest holy bomb from Amerika or Islam. And don't call me a Liberal!!! kt " ) MShrum wrote: > -Cave

Re: [CTRL] CHRISTMAS WISHES

1998-12-25 Thread MShrum
-Caveat Lector- You have my deepest sympathies, my friend! The history of December 25th is old news. However, Christmas is a season of love and joy - and above all sharing this love and joy with your family and friends. It is obvious that you have no one [my sympathies to them if there are any!]

Re: [CTRL] CHRISTMAS WISHES

1998-12-25 Thread Kenn Thomas
-Caveat Lector- >From Sex to Superconsciousness - http://www.artnet.net/~acharya/truth 'Tis the season that drives nuts the intelligent and erudite, as we must constantly be subjected to the stupidity, credulity and/or dishonesty of the human race as a whole. It is somewhat depressing and emba

Re: [CTRL] vs. socialism, vs. capitalism, what now?

1998-12-25 Thread Kenn Thomas
-Caveat Lector- > Where would Monsanto be without the F.D.A.? This seems like a cart-before-the-horse question. The FDA is staffed with people from industry. Like the other government agencies, it is a weak force compared to the realities of global corporatism. Monsanto could live without it--i

[CTRL] CHRISTMAS WISHES

1998-12-25 Thread MShrum
-Caveat Lector- Dear Friend, I want to wish you a very, VERY blessed Christmas and New Year! I have stumbled on something very serious and important and I must take a few days off to pursue it. I will be returning with my findings in the next JOSHUA REPORT on Tuesday, January 5th, 1999.

Re: [CTRL] vs. socialism, vs. capitalism, what now?

1998-12-25 Thread Daniel Holly
-Caveat Lector- Russia must be a libertarian wet dream. The government is minimal and the adventurous entrepreneurs/capitalists are in charge... THE RUSSIAN MAFIA that is DAN -Original Message- From: flw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dat

Re: [CTRL] The Cato Center for Trade Policy Studies (http://www.freetrade.org/)

1998-12-25 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- > >Ah, yes, free trade. Another term for drug smuggling and money laundering. Drug Smuggling: " The evasion of unconstitutional, immoral laws against a person's inalienable right to control his/her own body." Money Laundering: " The evasion of

Re: [CTRL] vs. socialism, vs. capitalism, what now?

1998-12-25 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- >Typical Libertarian bullshit. America has a slightly mixed economy >which >is firmly in the hands of Capitalists. The very worst of both >possibilities. > >It's the Capitalist Elites who enjoy the fruits of Socialism by owning >the government. And it's the poor and working class

Re: [CTRL] vs. socialism, vs. capitalism, what now?

1998-12-25 Thread EASTERISLE
-Caveat Lector- Nurev wrote: > It's the Capitalist Elites who enjoy the fruits of Socialism > by owning the government. And it's the poor and working class > who enjoy the bitter leftovers of capitalism. MJ wrote: >Your blatant contradiction of yourself aside ... >Capitalism requires a

Re: [CTRL] Cato News Releases (http://www.cato.org/new/catonew.html)

1998-12-25 Thread Jim Norman
-Caveat Lector- The president is not elected by the people. He is elected as the constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the several States describes...by electors. Electors for a Presidential election are appointed by the executive committee's of the several States. I kno

Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) Money Makes the World Go Round (was:Spend More, Save Les

1998-12-25 Thread William Hugh Tunstall
-Caveat Lector- Thanks for the excellent critique. You've been doing your homework! Regards, Wm On Fri, 25 Dec 1998, Linda Minor wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > sno0wl wrote: > > >>Before the wheels of industry can be started; before manufacturers can > open their factories; before contractors

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Time to End CEOs 5-Year NAFTA Party

1998-12-25 Thread William Hugh Tunstall
-Caveat Lector- Yes, we do need trade unions. And NAFTA is a harbinger of the end of the American middle class. If you've read Ravi Batra's critique of free trade, he points out that the "trickle-down" economic policies of the Reagan years inevitably must end in class division...and an eventua

[CTRL] Microwaved food, no good?

1998-12-25 Thread Teo1000
-Caveat Lector- >From Trufax.org (Leading Edge International) Teo1000 Court Removes Gag Order from Swiss Scientist on Microwaved Food Hans Hertel is the first scientist to conceive of and carry out a quality study on the effects of microwaved nutrients on the blood and physiology of human being

Re: [CTRL] SNET: Re: Konformist: IS DANNION BRINKLEY'S BOX-12 VISION

1998-12-25 Thread Michael Estes
-Caveat Lector- "Saved by the light"? I don't think so. How about SAVED BY THE DOLLARS that he made by having that book published! Thanks for sharing that information. The more these kinds of things are exposed the more the truth can have a chance of prevailing ( but i won't be holding my brea

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Time to End CEOs 5-Year NAFTA Party

1998-12-25 Thread BStokes45
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 98-12-24 18:15:40 EST, you write: << The remaining manufacturing jobs are under severe pressure. While factory jobs in the United States pay, on average, more than $18 an hour, maquiladora workers in high-tech foreign plants in Mexico earn about a buck and

Re: [CTRL] Who said this? 3

1998-12-25 Thread BStokes45
-Caveat Lector- Correct, David Rockefeller 1991 in Baden-Baden Germany. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with i

Re: [CTRL] Who said this? 3

1998-12-25 Thread RoadsEnd
-Caveat Lector- David Rockefeller? Om K In a message dated 12/25/98 8:01:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >" We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine > and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and > respected their

[CTRL] Fwd: Christmas In Exile: a message from Michael Boren Williams to theworld

1998-12-25 Thread RoadsEnd
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[CTRL] Unemployed Oil

1998-12-25 Thread Alamaine Ratliff
-Caveat Lector- From: Reuters Friday December 25 1:51 AM ET Japan Hit With Record Unemployment On Christmas By Yoko Nishikawa TOKYO (Reuters) - There was no Christmas cheer in Japan Friday as the government delivered dismal economic data and the worst jobless numbers in 46 years. The gover

Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) Money Makes the World Go Round (was:Spend More, Save Les

1998-12-25 Thread Linda Minor
-Caveat Lector- sno0wl wrote: >>Before the wheels of industry can be started; before manufacturers can open their factories; before contractors can erect new buildings; before real estate can be improved; money must be borrowed for the purpose and interest must be paid for the use of it. And, d

[CTRL] Who said this? 3

1998-12-25 Thread nurev
-Caveat Lector- " We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. He went on to explain: It would have been

[CTRL] Unconstitutional Secret Government

1998-12-25 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- More and more of our taxdollars are used to fund the Secret Government. Some foolishly thought that the collapse of the Soviet Union would result in a reigning in of the Secret Government. Instead it grows in leaps and bounds. FLW CIA Won't Disclose Total Intelligence Appropriat

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: "Secret Evidence" Against Bill Too Shocking for

1998-12-25 Thread Kenn Thomas
-Caveat Lector- > Clinton was impeached for perjury about sex because, for assorted reasons, they > weren't able, or were afraid to, stick him with the real stuff, such as treason. The Al Capone principle--Capone killed thousands but they could only nail him on tax evasion. Garrison used the sa

Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt

1998-12-25 Thread Kenn Thomas
-Caveat Lector- This person is, of course, Stephanie Caruana, and I'm happy to see that she has some internet presence. The friend from whom she recieved the Gemstone letters was Mae Brussell, saintly mother of conspiracy research. Steamshovel did an interview with Ms. Caruana that appears in th

[CTRL] Merry Christ-mass!!

1998-12-25 Thread Edward Britton
-Caveat Lector- To all my Internet companions: May this Christ-mass bring you all the joy of the Good News brought forth unto the world by the birth of Our Savior, Jesus Christ! May peace and blessings mark your new year, and may you join in the blessed Communion with the Redeemer of our souls.

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: IS DANNION BRINKLEY'S BOX-12 VISION ...

1998-12-25 Thread RGates8254
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/19/98 10:37:53 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > IS DANNION BRINKLEY'S BOX-12 VISION COMING TO PASS? > > A nanowire prototype from Israel is eerily similar to one of > Brinkley's prophesied events... > Each vision, or set of vis

[CTRL] Al Gore or Adolph Hitler

1998-12-25 Thread Bill Kingsbury
-Caveat Lector- forwarded message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LaRouche Issues Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 Subj: Al Gore or Adolph Hitler Seasons greetings to all LaRouche Issues Mailing List subscribers and in the tradition of Washingtons v

Re: [CTRL] Bogus Clinton Polls

1998-12-25 Thread Bill Kingsbury
-Caveat Lector- http://www.msnbc.com Clinton doing well in opinion polls, but voter surveys tell a different story - By Jay Severin MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR Politicians rely on polls to guide them in deciding Clinton's fate, but not the polls you are se

[CTRL] For Whom The Polls Toll

1998-12-25 Thread Bill Kingsbury
-Caveat Lector- http://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac/polls.htm --- For Whom The Polls Toll by L. Wolfe Printed in The American Almanac, May 5, 1997. -

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: "Secret Evidence" Against Bill Too Shocking for

1998-12-25 Thread JYester
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/24/98 11:08:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Well, at long last. I'm so glad to hear someone else say it. Seemed > to me that all through this business Starr's "investigation," and the > House Committee has been dealing with Clinto