[CTRL] The 13 Commandments

1999-10-09 Thread earthman

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The thought that I had was.. Did God deal in metrics?And the answer that
followed said "No". So what are the other three commandments? Gods time is
not metric. He would have given 13 commandments. Now I know you are thinking
I should be saying 12 and not 13..Well, there were 12 + 1 apostles and Jesus
= 13.. King Arthur and his knights. There are 13 not 12 moons in a year
 another deception )
There could even be 13 and not 12 signs of the Zodiac.
The Mayans who are the most accurate of ancient timekeepers use a 13:20
calendar i.e 13 moon:20 Sun.
13 is the magic number not 10 or 12
Now if I have ruffled anybodies  feathers, then please, get over it. I am
just words on a computer screen afterall..

Now the story could be crap, but there could still be a moral

Peter
PS, sorry about the copy, I ain't got time to fix it..LOL

 EXCERPT FROM "THE BROTHERHOOD"
From the web site:
http://www.energymedicineassn.com/speakingwind/manuscripts.htm
By: Patrick Edward Quirk, Speaking Wind

My brother Cheeway made a second expedition to the Yucatan Peninsula with
his investors. He had to find the map room in
order to locate a second ancient site. A site where not only the last three
commandments were recorded, but the final warning
for what the ancient prophecies called, mankind's approaching disaster. The
warnings had been left so humanity would know
what could be done to avert certain disaster to the planet they had been
given to live on.

They met in Campeche, Mexico where Joe, the leader of a local band of
rebels, helped them return to The Ancient City Of
Prophecy. Cheeway discovered the map room on his second expedition, but due
to Father Sanchez, and the Brotherhoods
pursuit, he had to leave much of what he found in the Ancient City behind.
Father Sanchezs' Brotherhood did not want him to
release what he found, or locate the second ancient site.

Nahe, Father Juan and I discovered an old manuscript that had been hidden
within the wall of a church built in 1536, near
Coyote, New Mexico. It was dated in the year of our lord 1536 and said the
original Father Juan found the second site, but did
not disclose its location, nor what the last three Commandments were, but
said its location could be found in the map room of
the Ancient City. However, the pages of Father Juans' manuscript had become
so deteriorated from the
effects of age, only the first page could be read.

Father Juan insisted he, and another priest, Father Joe, accompany us to
meet with my brother Cheeway. He said their
presence would balance things out. That we were being pursued by members
from the dark side of the church, and their
presence would remind us not all priests were like Father Sanchez, and his
Brotherhood, The Illuminati.

Father Juans' knowledge of the history of the area, and local theology,
would prove invaluable, and Father Joes' contribution
would come from his youth and educational background. For he had a Ph.D. in
Archeology and was eager to assist uncovering
the second ancient site, the final three Commandments, and the last
warning.

Father Sanchez, and his Brotherhood, have been called the Illuminati
throughout history. They have been responsible for
keeping truth hidden from humanity for just one reason. To keep everyone
under their control by promoting fear based
governments around the world. However, what is contained in the original
Eleven Commandments posed a threat to their
control, and their way of life.

They had been searching for the undiscovered second version of the Bible
for thousands of years. But now that we discovered
the second ancient site where the last three commandments and final warning
were recorded, The Brotherhood stepped up their
efforts to kill everyone involved, before the information could be made
public. But in the wake of the Illuminatis' search,
millions of people lay dead along their historical path. And to them, a few
more, would not be significant.

Just before Cheeway discovered the location of the second ancient site, he
heard it was about to be violated. If that happened, a
great disaster would occur. One that would affect the entire planet.

The Brotherhood directed Father Sanchez to stop Cheeway from reaching it,
for they had other plans for its use. They wanted
to create a contained global disaster that would obliterate thousands of
people. For them, this would be the first step in getting
all world governments to unite under one authority...theirs. If they were
successful, the last three Commandments, as well as
the final warning, would never be known by mankind, and, they would
dominate and control everyone's life. No one would
be free, and, The Brotherhood would be the only voice of authority heard
around the world.

Cheeway was not aware of their plan until he was about the enter The
Ancient City Of Prophecy for the second time. He was
met by a man he knew earlier in Peru named Nauti.

Nauti informed Cheeway of The Brotherhoods plan. But Nauti revealed a
forgotten 

[CTRL] Renegade CIA Agent No Renegade

1999-10-09 Thread Das GOAT

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Ex-CIA Officer Appeals Conviction

By C. BRYSON HULL
.c The Associated Press

HOUSTON (AP) - Former CIA officer Edwin P. Wilson, jailed since 1983 for
illegal arms smuggling to Libya, has filed an appeal accusing federal
prosecutors of knowingly using a false affidavit to convict him.

Wilson's claims are accompanied by hundreds of secret government memos that
his lawyers obtained.

Wilson's main job for the CIA before he retired in 1971 was setting up front
companies abroad while posing as a rich American businessman. He lived his
cover to the hilt and made himself a multimillionaire in the process. He was
arrested in 1982 after being lured out of Libya by a government informant and
was sentenced to 52 years in prison.

The appeal is of a 1983 conviction for shipping 20 tons of C-4 plastic
explosives from Houston's Intercontinental Airport to Libya. Even if his
appeal were successful, Wilson would still face prison time on two other
convictions. But his defense attorney, David Adler, believes similar evidence
exists that could throw out a Virginia conviction of Wilson for illegally
exporting guns to Egypt.

Adler said the secret government memos detail lengthy efforts to hide the use
of the false affidavit and prosecutors' failure to release information that
would have aided Wilson's defense during his 1983 Houston trial on charges of
selling tons of explosives to Libya.

Wilson claims that his dealings with Libya, for which he was convicted, were
the result of a CIA request that he ingratiate himself with the Libyans after
he officially retired from the agency.

The affidavit by then-CIA Executive Director Charles Briggs, the agency's No.
3 official, said the agency had not asked Wilson either directly or
indirectly to provide any service to the agency after he retired.

A four-volume appeal filed Sept. 8 includes more than 800 pages of exhibits
that allegedly show government lawyers knew the crucial affidavit was false
the night before it was presented in court.

The documents show that Wilson in fact had some 80 contacts with the CIA from
his retirement through 1978 and provided a variety of services, including
arranging gun sales to a Saudi Arabian security agency and the shipment of
two desalinization units to Egypt.

Documents also show prosecutors then spent nearly eight months discussing
whether to disclose that fact to the court and Wilson's lawyers.

The evidence was enough to prompt an unusual courtroom admission earlier in
March from Justice Department attorney Arlene Reidy.

``We have a lot of documents already that I think show that there was a clear
problem with the affidavit's accuracy and that the individuals involved were
well aware of that problem,'' Ms. Reidy told U.S. District Judge Lynn Hughes,
according to a transcript.

The former CIA general counsel, Stanley Sporkin, now a federal judge in
Washington, D.C., said Tuesday there was no intention to cover up. Rather, he
said, officials had a difference in philosophies about how to handle the
information about Wilson's activities.

``It would be wrong to think this was in bad faith,'' Sporkin said.

The Justice Department has until mid-January to respond to the appeal. If
Wilson's conviction was overturned, he could be retried.

The secret documents were obtained by Wilson's defense under the Freedom of
Information Act and through court discovery. They were resealed by Hughes on
Sept. 23, but The Associated Press had obtained copies before the order was
signed.

Speaking from federal prison in Allenwood, Pa., Wilson said the alleged
conspiracy against him was motivated by ambition.

``A few greedy people in the government saw an opportunity to make a name for
themselves,'' Wilson said. ``The longer I was in prison, the more they had to
cover it up and it keeps going higher.''

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[CTRL] Solving Urban Problems Without POLITICS

1999-10-09 Thread Das GOAT

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Curitiba, Brazil, a blueprint for how to make the city --that microcosm of
our whole modern socio-economic-political system-- WORK, at LOW cost, with NO
politics ...:

http://www.best.com/~schmitty/ue96n4d.htm

http://www.udg.org.uk/ej/udq/57/csd.html

http://www.sustainable.org/casestudies/international/INTL_af_curitiba.html

http://www.dismantle.org/curitiba.htm

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Re: [CTRL] Shape Shifting

1999-10-09 Thread earthman

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Thanks List.. You seem to add a nice approach to all of this... Do you have
a soft voice as well??

Peter



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From: [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Shape Shifting


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 David hasn't been got. He went under years ago when he declared himself
the
 "Godhead". These claims merely confirm his state of mind. As the late Jim
 Keith aptly put it, The Biggest Secret is yet another "magnum crapus" on
par
 with Bill Cooper's Behold A Pale Horse. David cites dozens of witnesses of
 alleged transformations of people into reptiles, but none are named, or
their
 evidence corroborated, save for Cathy O'Brien and Arizona Wilder, whose
 credibilty is suspect to say the least.

 He is deluding himself if he really believes it. Although I wonder
sometimes,
 for he does not want to take responsibility for his claims, as his
 hypocritical insistence that he is just passing on information and not
 claiming that it's the truth would prove...

 BD

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Re: [CTRL] Shape Shifting

1999-10-09 Thread earthman

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Thanks Samantha, that was very good.. So are you saying therefore that the
reptile thing is just a fabrication in order to keep the ritualists hidden?
and I presume also that ritual abuse does happen..

Peter

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Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 3:23 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Shape Shifting


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 I know little about Icke, and from my distance, there is a third
 alternative to why he may be doing this that wasn't mentioned:  maybe *he*
is
 part of a disinformation campaign.

 The writer states that multiples have perfect photographic memory.
This
 is not true!  Even for multiples with a degree of photgraphic memory, the
 person doesn't always have access to the memories of other personalities
at
 will.  Forgetfulness is more common with mutliples than with the
non-multiple
 population.  Blanket statements like this are wrong!

 The author states that his friend Patti may not be a good judge if AW
is
 telling the truth.  Why?  A survivor can peg a phoney a lot faster than a
 non-survivor!  A person with a PhD in archeology can peg a phoney claiming
to
 be one faster than a lay person.  Knowledge, familiarity, experience.
Same
 principle applies.

 I've been studying survivor issues for more than ten years.  I've met
at
 least a hundred survivors, both in person and on-line.  NEVER ONCE did I
hear
 the "reptilian thing" until reading Cathy O'Brien  Mark Phillips' book.
NOT
 ONCE.
 Think about it -- the worst and most secret thing evil people do is to
 perform heinous rituals, take lives, torture children.  They don't want
the
 general population to KNOW this, or if they KNOW it, to believe it!  For
it
 to have power, it must be kept secret!

 Well, survivors are breaking memory boundaries left and right.  The
 secret is out.  Now all that's left is to discredit their stories.  Easy
 enough.  Tell the full truth about what survivors have experienced but add
 EVEN ONE piece of phoney, wild, totally weird info into the mix, and wham!
 NONE of the survivors are believed again.

 In all the books I've read on or about survivors of satanic ritual
abuse
 (by psychiatrists, therapists or survivors themselves) , and from all the
 survivors I've met in person or on-line, NEVER ONCE has there been an
 allegation of the "reptilian thing" . until you get to
"Trance-formation
 of America" by Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien.

 Read the book for yourselves -- borrow a copy from someone --
anything.
 Ask yourself this question:  Exactly HOW did Mark Phillips make the
 transition from the aloof-disinterested-disdainful businessman who knew
Cathy
 from contact with her former husband (and thought she was an unattractive
 hick/airhead type) to the

give-it-all-up-to-save-the-damsel-fall-in-love-wth-the-damsel-risk-your-life
-f
 or-the-damsel-deprogram-the-damsel-go-on-a-book-tour-to-save-the-world?

 Even when I had no reason whatsoever to doubt the book's veracity --
even
 before I read Cathy's account -- that transition didn't gel with me one
bit.
 Something deifinitely ain't right there, in my opinion.

 Much of Cathy's story rings true, and I think highly of her from what
I
 know.  I also feel deep compassion for her personally.  I think she's an
 unwitting part of a disinformation ploy.  Mark was her rescuer.  He saved
her
 from what she perceived as certain death.  Of course she would bond with
him!

 The rescuer scenario is played out effectively and often with children
 victims of satanic ritual abuse.  It is impossible for a child NOT to bond
 with the person who rescues them from torture and death, even though that
 person is, in reality, just part of the overall mind-game.

 If the "rescuer" is part of the perpetrator op, then the perps control
 the entire life of the victim, and the whole flow of information.  It is a
 sick and dastardly thing to do to a survivor.  But then,
satanic/intelligence
 operatives have never been known for their overwhelming kindness


 Samantha

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[CTRL] ANOMALOUS UPDATES - ISLAND CITY DISCOVERED ON MARS!

1999-10-09 Thread Steve Wingate

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Anomalous Images has discovered the ruins another ancient city on the
surface of Mars! And these ruins are less than a degree from the
hyperdimensionally significant 19.47 degrees of latitude!

Ancient terraces from Peru closely resembling those on Mars, are shown
for comparison. Did the same intelligent beings design, and possibly build
these ancient stone structures?

How can NASA continue to ignore the obvious? -- They crash the Mars
Climate Orbiter, a spacecraft that was to begin the search in earnest for
possible signs of life on Mars! We have already found signs of life on Mars,
without a doubt. Why are we being kept in the dark by NASA? What is it
that we cannot be told, and why?!!

The people are ready. The time is NOW. The Truth must be told!

http://www.anomalous-images.com/mgs/islandcity.html


Steve Wingate

California Director
SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL

Anomalous Images and UFO Files
http://www.anomalous-images.com

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[CTRL] Bringers of the Dawn (fwd)

1999-10-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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From:

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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 19:52:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Bringers of the Dawn


From 'Bringers Of The Dawn'
By Barbara Marciniak

  "The ultimate tyranny in a society is not control by
  martial law. It is control by the psychological
  manipulation of consciousness through which
  reality is defined so that those who exist within
  it do not even realize that they are in prison.
  They do not even realize that there is something outside
  of where they exist. We represent what is outside of
  what you have been taught exists. It is where you
  sometimes venture and where we want you to dwell; it
  is outside of where society has told you you can live."

  "Because everyone is so frightened of giving up the
  system in the United States, they are going to be forced
  to give it up. The system is corrupt, it does not work, it
  does not honor life, and it does not honor Earth. That is
  the bottom line. If something does not honor life
  and does not honor Earth, you can bet it is going
  to fall, and it is going to fall big-time."

  "Consciousness must change. This is part of the
  Divine Plan, and this opportunity and setup is not going
  to be missed. There has been an over involvement in
  the material world and a complete lack of understanding
  of the nonphysical world that exists all around you, so
  there will be a reprioritizing of what comes first in life.
  People will stand up, once they have lost everything,
  who had never thought of standing up when they owned
  everything. People will awaken to the incredible
  potential of themselves."

  "Violence on the streets of major cities is another subtle
  means of control. The big cities in the United States-
  Los Angeles, New York City, Washington, D.C., and
  so on- are energy buckets, or holes. where energy
  comes into the North American continent- or has up
  until now. There has been an increase in violence in
  these cities because it is known that if unrest can be
  kept brewing and reported, it can be a likely vehicle for
  manipulating the entire nation. These things are
  purposely set into motion on the physical level
  and assisted on the etheric level because the
  more fear that is generated the more those in
  charge can feed on it."

  "The ability to use the human will over the human mind
  is your ultimate resource. This ability to master the
  body according to your will is exactly what the
  people in charge of the planet do not want you to
  figure out. As more of you become sovereign and in
  charge of your own frequency, those who do not want
  the new frequency here will bring an opposite
  frequency to create chaos, confusion, and polarity.
  Always, whenever a society is on the verge of a huge
  leap or change, there are diametrically opposed
  activities."

  "As members of the Family of Light, you have
  incarnated on this planet to prepare yourselves to do
  your work. What is your work? Your work is quite
  simple: you carry frequency into systems that
  have limited light frequency, because light is
  information. This in not cold, computer-data
  information; it is information that is transmitted
  biologically through an electromagnetic send-out of
  consciousness. This is what you are experts in. If you
  were to have a business card printed up for yourselves
  when you are in full memory of your identity, it would
  say something like: "Renegade Member of Family of
  Light. Systems Buster. Available for altering systems
  of consciousness within the free-will universe. On call."

  "You go for it! This is what you do. This is an aspect of
  your identity that you all have in common, and you are
  here in the millions at this time. You are here
  primarily to remember who you are, to operate
  multi dimensionally within the system, and to
  teach humans- the natives in this place that have
  been under frequency control for a long time- a
  new system. You are disguised as humans. As soon
  as you begin to realize this, you will extricate yourself
  

[CTRL] FBI Never Intended to Allow the Davidians out of their Church (fwd)

1999-10-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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From:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPcap/1999-10/08/077r-100899-idx.html

FBI Produces New Waco Documents

Logs Detail Aggressive Federal Tactics

  By David A. Vise and Lorraine Adams
  Washington Post Staff Writers
  Friday, October 8, 1999; Page A16

  The FBI has turned over to investigators
  thousands of pages of newly discovered
  internal documents that paint the most
  detailed picture yet of the aggressive
  federal tactics used during the 51-day
  siege of the Branch Davidian compound
  near Waco, Tex., in 1993 and offer a
  revealing look at the inner workings of
  the operation.

  Included among the intelligence reports,
  operational plans, logs, photos and
  videos that the bureau did not produce
  during previous congressional and
  federal probes is new information that
  agents sought approval to shoot at
  Branch Davidians who were not carrying
  weapons during the final siege but that
  headquarters rejected the request. The
  documents also outline seven instances in
  which the FBI threw or launched
  hand-held "flash-bang" grenades at
  Davidians who were exiting the
  compound earlier in the standoff.

  The new documents were discovered in
  boxes at the FBI's complex in Quantico
  after fresh subpoenas and other requests
  from the Justice Department, various
  congressional committees and former
  senator John C. Danforth (R-Mo.), who is
  spearheading a new federal probe.

  Federal officials, who asked not to be
  identified, said the FBI had not
  previously provided the records, some of
  which are stamped "Secret" or
  "Confidential," because earlier
  congressional requests were drafted too
  narrowly or the bureau overlooked the
  records.

  Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) said
  yesterday that the newly discovered FBI
  documents raise troubling questions.

  "The material does fill in more pieces of
  the puzzle and paints a disturbing
  picture of the FBI's judgment and tactics
  during the final days of the siege,"
  Grassley said. "Did all of the
  Waco-related documents that would
  have reflected poorly on the FBI end up
  at Quantico? How do we know all the
  documents have been turned over now?"

  The FBI documents range from the first
  day of the failed Bureau of Alcohol,
  Tobacco and Firearms raid, in which
  heavily armed Branch Davidians killed
  four agents, through the aftermath of the
  fire of April 19, 1993, that left about 75
  sect members dead. They appear to
  contain no conclusive evidence that the
  FBI contributed to the start of the fire, or
  fired at the Branch Davidians.

  But the new records do provide clues
  relevant to Danforth's inquiry regarding
  the possible use of deadly force. And,
  they give a day-by-day description of the
  FBI operations during the almost
  two-month siege, ranging from the often
  humorous daily weather report that
  included a "mud index" to intelligence
  reports on Waco-related Internet
  activities by militia groups.

  They also reveal for the first time that FBI
  officials sought medals of honor for the
  agents involved in the deadly siege;
  headquarters rejected that request too.

  Among the documents are seven drafts of
  the FBI's operational orders for the final
  siege, including two that said agents
  could use deadly force against Branch
  Davidians carrying no weapons as they
  emerged from the compound if they
  failed to respond to commands as they
  approached law enforcement officials.

  The final version of the operational
  orders reverts to standard FBI policy,
  which prohibits the use of deadly force
  except as necessary in self-defense or in
  the defense of another person.

  Byron Sage, the FBI's chief negotiator at
  Waco, said the modification in the
  agency's deadly force policy was
  proposed after FBI agents received
  

[CTRL] Expanded domestic use of U.S. military raising civil liberty concerns (fwd)

1999-10-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

 -Caveat Lector-

Clinton News Network-October 7, 1999

Expanded domestic use of U.S. military raising civil liberty
concerns


From Military Affairs Correspondent Jamie McIntyre

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Changes in the Pentagon's command structure
designed to give the military a supporting role in responding to
domestic terrorist attacks or natural disasters is raising alarm
among some civil libertarians.

In Norfolk, Virginia, on Thursday, top military leaders, and
their civilian superiors, unveiled a retooled U.S. Joint Forces
Command, formerly the U.S. Atlantic Command.

The new command will coordinate its efforts with federal law
enforcement agencies and the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
However, Secretary of Defense William Cohen said "it is very
clear (the command) is subordinate to civilian control."

Pentagon officials say the idea behind the change is to give a
president options short of martial law to deal with domestic
crises.

"The reason that you want the Defense Department working now with
the FBI, with the Justice Department, with FEMA is so we know how
we will work when the time comes and we don't have to resort to
extreme measures nobody wants in this country," said Deputy
Defense Secretary John Hamre.

Also, a defense bill signed this week by President Bill Clinton
contains a little-noticed provision that expands the authority of
the military to assist law enforcement authorities in case of
chemical or biological attacks.

The Pentagon argues that only the military has the field
hospitals, helicopters and special chemical and biological
equipment that would be vital in the aftermath of a major gas or
germ attack.

"I should think the taxpayers would be upset if they thought we
weren't preparing to help out the citizens in case of a
catastrophic event," said Adm. Harold Gehman, who heads up the
U.S. Joint Forces Command.

But the specter of armored military vehicles and armed troops on
the streets of American cities has its critics.

"If the plan were simply to carry cots, to deliver supplies, to
rescue people, we would be talking about a plan that included, as
a feature, no armored vehicles and no armed soldiers," says
Gregory Nojeim, legislative counsel for the American Civil
Liberties Union. "I haven't heard a peep about that from the
Pentagon."

Critics point to the disastrous siege of the Branch Davidian
compound in Waco, Texas, in 1993 -- in which military officials
were called in to assist the FBI and the ATF -- as evidence that
the military is already too involved in law enforcement.

"At Waco, there were dozens of Bradley fighting vehicles, there
were tanks and there were soldiers," said Nojeim.



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[CTRL] FBI Produces New Waco Documents (fwd)

1999-10-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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FBI Produces New Waco Documents

By David A. Vise and Lorraine Adams

Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, October 8, 1999; Page A16

The FBI has turned over to investigators thousands of pages of
newly discovered internal documents that paint the most detailed
picture yet of the aggressive federal tactics used during the
51-day siege of the Branch Davidian compound near Waco, Tex., in
1993 and offer a revealing look at the inner workings of the
operation.

 Included among the intelligence reports, operational plans,
logs, photos and videos that the bureau did not produce during
previous broad-based congressional and federal probes is new
information that agents sought approval to shoot at Branch
Davidians who were not carrying weapons during the final siege.
But headquarters rejected the request. The documents also outline
seven instances in which the FBI threw or launched hand-held
"flash-bang" grenades at Davidians who were exiting the compound
earlier in the standoff.

 The new documents were discovered in boxes at the FBI's complex
in Quantico after fresh subpoenas and other requests from the
Justice Department, various congressional committees and former
senator John C. Danforth (R-Mo.), who is spearheading a new
federal probe.

 Federal officials, who asked not to be identified, said the FBI
had not previously provided the records, some of which are
stamped "Secret" or "Confidential," because earlier congressional
requests were drafted too narrowly or the bureau overlooked the
records.

 Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) said yesterday that the newly
discovered FBI documents raise troubling questions.

 "The material does fill in more pieces of the puzzle and paints
a disturbing picture of the FBI's judgment and tactics during the
final days of the siege," Grassley said. "Did all of the
Waco-related documents that would have reflected poorly on the
FBI end up at Quantico? How do we know all the documents have
been turned over now?"

 The FBI documents range from the first day of the failed Bureau
of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms raid, in which heavily armed
Branch Davidians killed four agents, through the aftermath of the
fire of April 19, 1993, that left about 75 sect members dead.
They appear to contain no conclusive evidence that the FBI
contributed to the start of the fire, or fired at the Branch
Davidians.

 But the new records do provide clues relevant to Danforth's
inquiry regarding the possible use of deadly force. And they give
a day-by-day description of FBI operations during the almost
two-month siege, ranging from the often humorous daily weather
report that included a "mud index" to intelligence reports on
Waco-related Internet activities by militia groups.

 They also reveal for the first time that FBI officials sought
medals for the agents involved in the deadly siege; headquarters
rejected that request too.

 Among the documents are seven drafts of the FBI's operational
orders for the final siege, including two that said agents could
use deadly force against Branch Davidians carrying no weapons as
they emerged from the compound if they failed to respond to
commands as they approached law enforcement officials.

 The final version of the operational orders reverts to standard
FBI policy, which prohibits the use of deadly force except as
necessary in self-defense or in the defense of another person.

 Byron Sage, the FBI's chief negotiator at Waco, said the
modification in the agency's deadly force policy was proposed
after FBI agents received information from a Davidian who had
left that others inside were considering exiting the compound
with explosives strapped to their bodies. In that instance, he
said, the Davidians would have posed a danger even though no
weapons were visible.

 The proposed orders were reviewed by Jeff Jamar and Richard
Rogers, the two senior FBI agents at Waco. Rogers also played a
role in the pivotal change in deadly-force policy that critics of
the FBI argue led to the 1992 fatal shooting of Vicki Weaver at
Ruby Ridge, Idaho.

 In the first version of the Waco plan, dated March 4, 1993, the
field agents propose that the standard FBI deadly-force policy be
in effect: "Agents are not to use deadly force against any person
except as necessary in self-defense or the defense of another."
But in a later version, dated March 10, the FBI added language
that said agents could use deadly force against Davidians
emerging from the compound who did not respond to directions and
approached FBI agents, even if they had no visible weapon. Then,
in an April 9 version, the standard FBI policy is again listed,
although it is followed by a section that was redacted in the
document.

 Danny O. Coulson, the FBI agent who manned the command post in
Washington during the evenings, emphasized yesterday that the
rules ultimately approved by Attorney General Janet Reno did not
include firing on unarmed Davidians. "I think the important thing
here is what were the 

[CTRL] CAS: [Fwd: Re: Colt stopping gun sales to civilians] (fwd)

1999-10-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Colt's Restructuring Cuts
Role of Consumer Handguns
By PAUL M. BARRETT
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL


Colt's Manufacturing Co., the storied gun maker, is restructuring
in a way that will shrink significantly its role in producing
handguns for the consumer market.

The restructuring stems from several causes, but in one sense it
is the most drastic response so far by a major gun maker to the
wave of municipal litigation pending against the firearm
industry. Lawsuits filed by 27 cities and counties across the
country specifically target the sort of handguns that Colt's is
planning to move away from.

Internal company documents show Colt's, West Hartford, Conn., is
in the process of spinning off into a separate company its
controversial project aimed at producing a high-tech "smart gun"
that can only be fired by an authorized user.

The documents also indicate the remaining core business will be
focused more narrowly on production of military small arms, an
area that Colt's has emphasized heavily over the past two years.
New York financiers Donald Zilkha and John Rigas, who control the
manufacturer, have used Colt's as a vehicle to acquire other
makers of small military arms, and the restructuring appears to
be another step in that direction. In fact, there are rumors in
the gun business that Colt's is close to a new acquisition of a
rival, but those rumors couldn't be confirmed.

While immediate plans for the company's well-known lines of
consumer handguns aren't clear from the documents that were
reviewed, the documents do show that litigation against the gun
industry has been a major concern to Colt's owners. Messrs.
Zilkha and Rigas have indicated in the past that they would
consider getting out of consumer handgun manufacturing as a way
of trying to minimize their exposure to the municipal lawsuits.

Messrs. Zilkha and Rigas didn't return telephone messages.

Steven Sliwa, chief executive of Colt's, said he is going to head
the new high-tech spinoff, which is known as iColt. Retired Gen.
William Keys, a Colt's board member, will take over the remaining
core Colt's business, focusing on military small arms.

"Gen. Keys and I are looking forward to working together on the
two ventures and taking Colt's into the 21st century," Mr. Sliwa
said.

Among major gun makers, Colt's has been among the most determined
to send signals that it wants to resolve the municipal litigation
without a protracted and expensive court fight. But a quick
settlement of the suits doesn't appear to be part of the
restructuring plan, and lawyers representing Colt's are
continuing to try to get those suits dismissed.

The commercial handgun segment of Colt's business produces about
30% of revenue but a larger share of profit, because margins are
greater in that segment than in military sales, the company
documents show. Nevertheless, Messrs. Zilkha and Rigas are said
to see the commercial handgun market as too risky to remain a
major part of the overall business.

The company has struggled financially for more than 15 years,
seeing itself surpassed by more nimble competitors in markets
ranging from law enforcement to military rifles. A Zilkha-led
group bought the company while it was in bankruptcy-court
proceedings in 1994 and since then, Colt's has won back some
important U.S. military contracts for its M-16 family of rifles,
among other weapons. In December 1998, Colt's also completed its
acquisition of Saco Defense Corp., a smaller maker of military
arms, and remains in the hunt for another acquisition in the
area.

In 1998, Colt's and Saco had combined revenue of about $136
million and operating profit of $13.4 million, said a person
familiar with both companies' results.

One risk the restructuring creates is a negative reaction from
activist gun owners, who could perceive a withdrawal from the
consumer handgun market as another indication of Colt's bending
to gun-control proponents. Gun owners in New Jersey, California
and other states mounted a boycott of Colt's products last year,
partly in response to the company's development of the smart gun,
which also was seen as a manifestation of weakness in response to
gun foes.

On the other hand, by spinning off iColt, Colt's may be able to
distance itself from the smart-gun controversy.

The smart gun is an effort to use microprocessor technology to
prevent the misuse of guns by children, thieves or other
unauthorized users. Colt's has developed a prototype handgun that
can fire only when the trigger is pulled by someone wearing a
wristband that emits a coded radio signal that is received by a
computer microchip in the gun's handle. Still unreliable as
recently as this spring, when it was demonstrated for The Wall
Street Journal, the smart gun is ultimately seen as a product
that would appeal to middle-class consumers who wouldn't
otherwise buy a gun because of safety concerns.

Several other major gun companies, including Smith  Wesson
Corp., a unit 

[CTRL] Fwd: [net-alert] Net-Alert Volume 2, Issue 5

1999-10-09 Thread Kris Millegan





From: Mark Neely [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Net-Alert
9 October 1999

If you have any questions, comments or other feedback concerning
Net-Alert articles, contact the Editor at mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Previous editions of Net-Alert are available at
http://www.onelist.com/archive/net-alert

Subscription and unsubscription details are available at the end of this
newsletter.


Contents:

## Y2K virus fears
## Keeping passwords safe
## SiteJacking
## New Microsoft security update for IE
## Nasty virus doing the rounds
## "FreeLinks" script virus
## Virtual security consultant
## Snoopware goes mainstream
## Keeping track of computer bugs
## Hacker fightback!



Y2K virus fears

First there were reports that contractors working on updating
Y2K-prone computer software might deliberately introduce "back
doors" so that they can access the system after the contract had
expired.

Now we have the latest Y2K risk: viruses cashing in on the
confusion likely to reign over the New Year period.

A new Trojan Horse program, being circulated by email, is doing
the rounds. It purports to be a year 2000 countdown clock. Once
it is run, it copies the user's Internet account details
(passwords etc.).

Another Trojan Horse alleges to be a "fix" from Microsoft Corp.

Still another, W32/Fix2001, is circulated in an email messages
purporting to be sent by the "system administrator" with advice
that the software fixes a Y2K Internet problem. If launched, the
virus attaches itself to all outgoing email messages (ala the
Melissa macro virus).

As usual, users are warned not to accept any executable code on
its face value and to check its true origin. Keep in mind that
few companies issue software updates by email (Microsoft
certainly does not).


Keeping passwords safe

Security systems are only as strong as their weakest link. In
most cases, the weakest link is the human operator.

Passwords are a classic example. Good practice mandates that
passwords be difficult to guess and changed regularly. No user
should use the same password for two or more systems. Passwords
should not be written down.

How many of us actually follow these rules to the letter? One of
the main reasons why we don't is that passwords can be
notoriously difficult to remember (especially if they are, as
recommended, alphanumeric and comprised of words not found in
dictionaries).

Info-Keep offers a solution. It is a password management utility,
which you can use to store your various usernames and passwords,
login details etc. The data stored by Info-Keep is encrypted, so
all you need to remember is the Info-Keep password. The others
can be safely forgotten until you need to use them.

URL:

Info-Keep
   http://www.password-creator.com/


SiteJacking

SiteJacking has made the news lately (in response to several
Australian scammers being raided by authorities).

SiteJacking is a fairly straightforward scam, so we will no doubt
see a lot more of it.

Basically, a scammer visits a legitimate Web site, copies data
and graphics from the site, and then creates a replica of the Web
site (either on their own host or, more likely, using a free Web
page hosting service).

The scammer then submits the URL of their fake Web site to a
number of Search Engines, which proceed to index them. When an
unsuspecting user searches for the legitimate site, the results
may include links to the fake site.

Most users don't check the URLs of matched sites displayed in
Search Engine results - they just click on the hyperlink
provided. If they click on the hyperlink to the matching fake
site, their Web browser is hijacked.

The fake Web sites contain Java scripts which automatically
divert the Web browser to a Web site specified by the scammer
(generally porn sites). Furthermore, the Java code disables the
Back button and also prevents the browser window from being
closed.

As I mentioned, this is a fairly trivial thing to achieve from a
programming point of view. It will be interesting to see how Web
browser publishers respond to the issue.

URL:

US Federal Trade Commission press release
   http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1999/9909/atariz.htm


New Microsoft security update for IE

Microsoft Corp. has released a new patch for Internet Explorer
that fixes various security holes reported in recent months.

URLs:

Microsoft Security Bulletins
   http://www.microsoft.com/security/default.asp

Download site
   http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/iebuild/dlbhav/en/dlbhav.htm


Nasty virus doing the rounds

A new Word macro virus is doing the rounds. It spreads in much
the same manner as the Melissa macro virus. However, this one has
a particularly nasty "payload".

After infecting a PC, it waits for around 163 hours (roughly 1
week) before Attacking the user's files. It does this by setting
their file 

[CTRL] Fwd:

1999-10-09 Thread Kris Millegan





WillY:

The powers that be are working the same fraud on the people as they did with
the booze during prohibition. When everything comes out in the wash, you
will see all of the supporters and financiers of government running the
whole industry.

Beer, wine and whisky was just too easy for everyone to make and drugs are
the same way. It is a big business, just like alcohol and it takes powerful
government to keep the little people out.

The big boys have no intention of trying to compete in a free enterprise
type of society; they need big government to keep things under control while
they rake in all of the dough.

The Communist Manifesto, on page 25, tells us that we must have a heavy
progressive or graduated income tax. Abolition of all right to inheritance;
they take a big bite there. Centralization of credit in the hands of the
State by means of a national bank with State  capital and an exclusive
monopoly. Our controllers bought themselves a government, set up the
privately owned Federal Reserve System and had their government pass the
Tax-Free Foundation Act, checking themselves out of the tax stream in
perpetuity. There is now more than 100,000 of these tax-dodge, tax-free
foundations stealing the fruits of the loamier of millions of people who
actually believe that these crooks are running beneficial charities.
Philanthropy, my backside! Even the Commie, Gorby, has one.

Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries. Ever wonder what
is happening to all of the ranchers and farmers? It's a secret.

Free education for all children in public schools. "A general state
education is a mere contrivance for
   moulding people to be exactly like one another; and as the mould in
   which it casts them is that which pleases the predominant power in the
   government, whether this be a monarchy, a priesthood or an
   aristocracy, or the majority of the existing generation, in proportion
   as it is efficient and successful, it establishes a despotism over the
   mind, leading by natural tendency to one over the body." John Stuart
   Mill.

Centralization of the means of communication: This is how it works: "One
night, probably in 1880, John Swinton, then the
preeminent New York journalist, was the guest of honor at a  banquet given
him by the leaders
of his craft. Someone who knew neither the press nor Swinton offered a toast
to the independent press. Swinton outraged his colleagues by replying:
"There is no such thing, at this date of the world's history, in America, as
an independent press. You know it and I know  it.

  There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if
you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid
weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with.
Others of you are  paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you
who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on  the
streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear
in one issue of my paper, before  twenty-four hours my occupation would be
gone.

  "The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth, to lie
outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon,  and to
sell his country and his race for his daily bread.   You know it and I know
it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press?

  We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the
jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance.  Our talents, our
possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are
intellectual prostitutes."

"The World's greatest problem is the zeal with which deceived people defend
their deception."

"For this democracy to work, the majority has to believe many lies, ignore
many facts, make many false assumptions and be quick to ridicule anyone who
would dare try to enlighten them." I do not know who was responsible for
this quote nor the one just above, but one of the biggest lies comes from
those who call the Republic a democracy; and the deceived are quick to
ridicule anyone who would dare to enlighten them.

  Speaking to the House of Lords on March 2, 1770, William Pitt observed
that "There is something behind the throne greater than the king himself."
Benjamin Disraeli in his novel Coningsby said: "The world is governed by
very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind
the scenes." President Woodrow Wilson, in his book "The New Freedom",
written in 1913 wrote: "Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's
views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the
field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of
something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so
subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they
had better not speak above their breath in condemnation of it."

We have been under this secret control system for over 

[CTRL] No More Bill of Rights

1999-10-09 Thread Lloyd Miller

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: [smashthestate] Great Article


This is a great article.


  Sunday, October 03, 1999
  Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal

  COLUMN: Vin
  Suprynowicz

  I watched the Bill of Rights dying last month


   Last month, I watched the Bill of Rights dying. I
don't
  know if anyone else noticed; it's been on its deathbed so
  long that most folks don't even go visit anymore.
After a pleasant evening speaking to the Karl Hess
  Club in Marina del Rey, my return flight to Las Vegas
  had been abruptly canceled by America West the night
  before. So I found myself approaching the security
  checkpoint at Terminal 1 of LAX at 6:10 a.m.,
  preparing to catch the 7:56 to Vegas.
I pushed my carry-on bag through the X-ray
  machine, submitting to its scan of my personal effects
  despite the fact neither the airline nor the airport
  administration held any warrant to search them, nor even
  offered me any probable cause.
But was that enough? Not last Tuesday. As my bag
  came down the belt, a tall, sleepy-eyed young man with
  a shaved head and an ill-fitting blue blazer, standing on
  the other side of the conveyer belt, asked "Sir, do you
  mind if I search your bag?"
I replied: "Actually, I do mind. I do not consent to
  any search of my bag."
The young man acted as though I had not heard his
  question. "Sir, do you mind if I search your bag?"
"Yes, I do mind. I do not grant my consent for any
  search of my bag."
"Sir," he repeated, "do you mind if I search your
  bag?"
I still don't know how long this would have
  continued. Sensing that it was up to me to jog the needle
  on this trance-like broken record, I next asked, "Did
  you see something on the X-ray that looked like a
  weapon?"
"No sir," he admitted. "It's a random search."
"A random search?"
"A random search."
At this point, a bearded dwarf in a tweed jacket,
  looking for all the world like former Clinton cabinet
  secretary Robert Reich, appeared at my left shoulder,
  coming to the aid of my somnolent oppressor. "He can
  ask you to search the bag, and if you refuse, he doesn't
  have to let you continue," said this strange apparition,
  holding his own two suitcases and a plastic shopping
  bag.
"How is this any of your concern?" I asked the
  dwarf. "Do you work for the airline?"
"No," he smiled proudly, like an enormously
  self-contented bridge-player laying down the last trump
  card. "I work for the FAA."
"And you're on duty here?"
"No, I'm not. But I know about this," he smiled even
  more broadly.
"Then you must know the security directive says
  they should ask to see our photo ID, but it specifically
  goes on to say that if we refuse, they can not bar us from
  boarding" I said quite firmly, drawing the attention of
the
  sleepy-eyed fellow's lady supervisor, who now waddled
  over to join us. "So I assume it's the same with these
  'random bag checks.' That's why they ask for our
  permission, right? If they don't need our consent, why
  keep asking for it?"
Astonishingly enough, at this point, the dwarf's
smile
  collapsed, and he turned and trundled away like a
  disturbed woodchuck.
"Sir," asked the tall young man, clinging to the
  security of his minimal training and apparently hoping to
  break the record of Paul McCartney, who once
  managed to find more than a dozen different ways to
  sing the eight words "Why don't we do it in the road?" in
  the same recording session, "do you mind if I check your
  bag?"
"Listen," I said, "I do not grant my consent, and
I'm
  not going to grant my consent. If you 

Re: [CTRL] Shape Shifting

1999-10-09 Thread Sammark4

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 10/09/1999 3:48:04 AM CST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Thanks Samantha, that was very good.. So are you saying therefore that the
  reptile thing is just a fabrication in order to keep the ritualists hidden?
  and I presume also that ritual abuse does happen..

  Peter

 Yes, Peter.  I think the reptilian thing is an add-on as an attempt to
discredit the rest, which is real.  Satanic ritual abuse is real.  It's been
around for generations.  Governmental association with cults is fairly new.
Cults have been able to provide black operators with great data on how to
create multiple personalities in children and therefore, classic Manchurian
Candidate types.
According to some researchers (and survivors) the marriage between
intelligence and cults has provided a trade-off:  techniques (and children
provided for experimentation) in exchange for protection from prosecution and
protection from media intrusion.  If CIA and Mafia are two sides of a coin,
satanic cults have become the most recent third side.   Recent meaning since
the early 1960's, according to some, earlier according to others.

Samantha

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[CTRL] U.S. Part Of New Evil Empire

1999-10-09 Thread Bard

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Interesting!  Give it a hit!

http://www.freeyellow.com:8080/members7/badnato/

I am ashamed our chief executive. President Clinton has placed the U.S.
armed forces in danger in the Balkans for the advancement of the "New World
Order". He convinced NATO it must change from a defensive to an offensive
alliance to "protect human rights". That is a smoke screen. The bombing is
the New World Order's way of telling the world to fall in line or be
destroyed. President Clinton and NATO leaders have said U.S.  NATO citizens
must be patient because ending the tyranny of Slobodan Milosovic will take
time. What they are really saying is the U.S.  NATO will continue KILLING
civilians until NATO decides it has punished Yugoslavia enough. I know of no
legal authority outside of the United Nations that gives NATO the right to
impose that type of will against a sovereign nation. NATO is conducting
military experimentation in the air campaign rather than bringing this
conflict to a speedy conclusion by diplomatic means. NATO excuses the
killing of INNOCENT SERB civilians by saying mistakes are made in war,
without officially declaring war.

Bard
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[CTRL] Fw: Feds curious about high-tech conclave on extraterrestrials

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NASA agent probes Silicon Valley meeting with UFO theorist An upcoming private meeting between Silicon Valley
high-tech executives, NASA scientists and a high-profile
UFO enthusiast has sparked an investigation by a
government agency.
Special Agent Keith Tate, an investigator with the Long
Beach branch of NASA's Office of Inspector General, has
been calling Silicon Valley sources, including The
Examiner, seeking information about a planned Tuesday
meeting between research scientists and Silicon Valley
high-tech executives.
At that meeting, first reported by The Examiner,
attendees, including scientists from the NASA Ames
Research Center in Mountain View, will discuss
propulsion technologies.
"We're trying to determine if any proprietary
information will be talked about at that meeting,"  said
Tate.  "We're very concerned about this."
Staging the meeting will be the International Space
Sciences Organization. Its founder is Joe Firmage, a
28-year-old, high-tech executive who made headlines late
last year when he published a Web site and book in which he
recounted his beliefs in space aliens. On the ISSO site,
he claims to have been visited in his bedroom one night by
such an alien.
Firmage also has stated that some of the high technology
of today was obtained from the legendary alien space craft
crash at Roswell, N.M., in 1947. Firmage stepped down from
his post as CEO of the giant Santa Clara-based USWeb
Internet consulting firm following his revelations, due
to shareholder concerns about his extraterrestrial
pursuits.
ISSO spokesman Tony Young had no comment on the NASA
probe.
Over the last several years, NASA has been researching an
array of exotic propulsion technologies through a small
program dubbed Breakthrough Propulsion Physics.
Some of these techniques thumb their noses at Albert
Einstein's theory of relativity, which postulates that
nothing can travel faster than the speed of light - 186,00
miles per second. These include using technologies
familiar to science fiction fans: worm holes and warp
drives.
Firmage, according to his Web site, believes  "there is
stunningly good evidence that UFOs are real starships."
He writes that  "whatever did or did not happen at Roswell
in 1947 will ultimately prove to be a rounding error when
the implications of this phenomenon become widely
known."
















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Re: [CTRL] If it weren't for bad luck ...

1999-10-09 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 10/09/1999 1:03:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 "I spent an enormous amount of time trying to help the people in the land of
my
 forebears, in Northern Ireland, get over 600 years of religious fights," Mr
 Clinton told several hundred people at the embassy ceremony. "And every time
 they make an agreement to do it, they're like a couple of drunks walking out
of
 the bar for the last time. When they get to the swinging door, they turn
right
 around and go back in and say, `I just can't quite get there'. " 

I read the quote on C-SPAN.  He didn't say the Irish were drunks.  His
mistake was to mention drunks, bars and the Irish in the same sentence.
Perhaps he didn't notice how sensitive the Irish really are.  I believe he
was trying to say that the Irish are addicted to their fight, and no matter
how good sense dictates an end to it, they have to have their hit of
violence.  He should have said they were like heroin addicts.  It all comes
out the same way.  God forbid that anyone think an Irishman liked to take a
drink now and then.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] You Expected a Waco Hearing?

1999-10-09 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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 ``I don't know that we will see any compelling need'' for hearings, House
 Majority Leader Dick Armey told reporters Thursday, expressing confidence in
 independent prosecutor John Danforth.

 ``There's a basic attitude among the leadership guys ... to be patient,''
 said Armey, R-Texas. 

Mr. Armey is more interested in his plans to defund the left.  With Virginia
Thomas assisting him, I'm sure he's doing very well.  Why should he take a
chance on messing up by worrying about Waco.  He really doesn't care how many
people of any age bet taken out.  Prudy

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[CTRL] (Fwd) [BRIGADE] H-1b Visas - Whose Country is It Anyway?

1999-10-09 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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Dear Brigade,

"Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., introduced a bill to increase the number of
H-1B visas to at least 175,000 a year for an unlimited time. Rep. Zoe
Lofgren, D-Calif., has a proposal for a visa to let an unlimited number of
foreign graduates of American universities work in the country for five
years...  In late September, Sen. Chuck Robb, D-Va., proposed creating a
separate temporary visa category - the Tech Visa - for foreign students
who have received high-tech degrees from U.S. universities"

Pat Buchanan:  "Now, when one considers that the defense industry has laid
off tens of thousands and the United States is the most technologically
advanced nation on Earth, the wail of Silicon Valley seems absurd. Out of
265 million Americans, they can't find 50,000 qualified Americans? ... The
truth is that Silicon Valley, if it has to, will find and train Americans
for those jobs. It simply prefers foreign workers. Why? Because they're
younger, their expectations are lower, they can be paid less and are
content with less, they are totally dependent on the company to keep them
in the country, and they are less trouble than independent-minded American
workers"

Below please find:
1. Bills would add foreign workers in U.S. [10/8/99 - Charlotte Observer]
2. Whose Country is is Anyway [PJB 8/18/98]  3. H-1b Increase Betrays
American Workers [PJB Release 7/2/99]

The GOP/DEM sell-out of American workers continues.
GO PAT GO!!!
Linda



http://www.charlotte.com - October 8, 1999

Bills would add foreign workers in U.S.
Carolinas firms have stake in visa limit

By AUDREY Y. WILLIAMS

The battle many companies are fighting to find highly skilled workers -
especially for technology jobs - has spilled over into Congress.

Within the past three months, three federal lawmakers have introduced
bills to boost the number of temporary work visas that U.S. companies can
use to hire foreign nationals.

Many Carolinas companies and trade associations are watching the
proposed legislation that addresses the limits set on the visas, called
H-1B's.

"If somebody has a position to fill, they try to fill it with the best
person they can. Some of those folks are from other countries," said Joan
Myers, president of the Raleigh-based N.C. Electronics and Information
Technologies Association, a 300-member trade group. "We want to keep jobs
in North Carolina and not move them offshore. But if the restrictions are
unduly troublesome and we can't fill that job, that's what's going to
happen."

In June - less than seven months after Congress raised the annual cap to
115,000 from 65,000 - the H-1B visa program reached capacity. Although
current law sets the limit at 115,000, it returns the number to 65,000 in
2002. The visas let companies hire people from abroad to work in the
United States for six years.

Many industries use H-1B visas, including manufacturing and financial
services, but the high-tech industry is usually associated with them.
That's probably because it's facing a shortage of skilled workers that's
more acute than other industries and the visas are a helpful tool, experts
said.

Nationwide, unfilled high-tech jobs top 346,000, according to the
Information Technology Association of America. The Bureau of Labor
Statistics predicts the demand for some computer-related jobs will more
than double by 2006.

Most high-tech companies with Carolinas workers won't discuss how the visa
cap affects them, but companies such as Cisco Systems, Solectron and IBM
are likely to be in situations where they may want to use the visas. So is
the Research Triangle Institute in Research Triangle Park, a research and
development company that does work for the government and private sector.

"Right now it's affecting us most when it comes to hiring statisticians to
do health research and engineers to do (research and development) on
pollution control technologies," said Reid Maness, director of
communications at the institute where two-thirds of the 1,650 employees
have advanced degrees. Maness wouldn't say how many were hired under the
temporary visas.

"We're not talking about taking a job from somebody else," Maness said.
"We look to hire the best qualified person. The ability to recruit people
with advanced degrees is essential to our success."

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., introduced a bill to increase the number of
H-1B visas to at least 175,000 a year for an unlimited time. Rep. Zoe
Lofgren, D-Calif., has a proposal for a visa to let an unlimited number of
foreign graduates of American universities work in the country for five
years.

In late September, 

[CTRL] CONTROL OVER THE 'ALIEN SECRET.'

1999-10-09 Thread earthman

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http://129.240.214.229/kjole/NCCA/cooper.html

An exerpt

The following document was released by William Cooper to members of various
UFO RESEARCH and PATRIOT RESEARCH organizations. The manuscript, which ties
together certain aspects of the "Secret Government" and the "UFO Phenomena",
was titled: THE SECRET GOVERNMENT (The Origin, Identity, and Purpose of
MJ-12. May 23, 1989. Updated November 21, 1990):

"...I originally wrote this piece as a research paper. It was first
delivered at the MUFON Symposium on July 2, 1989, in Las Vegas, Nevada. Most
of this knowledge comes directly from, or as a result of my own research
into the TOP SECRET/MAJIC material WHICH I SAW AND READ between the years
1970 and 1973 as a member of the Intelligence Briefing Team of the Commander
in Chief of the Pacific Fleet. Since some of this information was derived
from sources that I cannot divulge for obvious reasons, and from published
sources which I cannot vouch for...(this) must be termed a hypothesis. I
firmly believe that if the aliens are real, THIS IS THE TRUE NATURE OF THE
BEAST. It is the only scenario THAT ANSWERS ALL THE QUESTIONS and places the
various fundamental mysteries in an arena that makes sense. It is the only
explanation which shows the chronology of events and demonstrates that the
chronologies, when assembled, match perfectly. The bulk of this I believe to
be true if the material that I viewed in the Navy is authentic. As for the
rest, I do not know, and that is why this paper must be termed a hypothesis.
Most historic and current available evidence supports this hypothesis.

"During the years following World War II the government of the United States
was confronted with a series of events which were to change beyond
prediction its future and with it the future of humanity. These events were
so incredible that they defied belief. A stunned President Truman and his
top military commanders found themselves virtually impotent after having
just won the most devastating and costly war in history.

"The United States had developed, used, and was the only nation on earth in
possession of the atomic bomb. This new weapon had the potential to destroy
an enemy, and even the Earth itself. At that time the United States had the
best economy, the most advanced technology, the highest standard of living,
exerted the most influence, and fielded the largest and most powerful
military forces in history. We can only imagine the confusion and concern
when the informed elite of the United States Government discovered that an
alien spacecraft piloted by 'insectlike' beings from a totally
incomprehensible culture had crashed in the desert of New Mexico (Note: Some
have alleged that certain 'sauroids' appear 'insect-like'. Other indications
suggest that they may be 'para-physical' entities of some sort, perhaps
those allegedly released, according to Kenneth Grant and others, by the
Illuminati from another 'dimension' via holes torn in the space-time fabric
by the early atomic tests in the Nevada underground, New Mexico, and
elsewhere - Branton).


"Between January 1947 and December 1952 at least 16 crashed or downed alien
craft, 65 bodies, and 1 live alien were recovered. An additional alien craft
had exploded and nothing was recovered from that incident. Of these events,
13 occurred within the borders of the United States, not including the craft
which disintegrated in the air. Of these 13, 1 was in Arizona, 11 were in
New Mexico, and 1 was in Nevada. Sightings of UFOs were so numerous that
serious investigation and debunking of each report became impossible,
utilizing the existing intelligence assets.

"An alien craft was found on February 13, 1948, on a mesa near Aztec, New
Mexico. Another craft was located on March 25, 1948, in White Sands Proving
Ground. It was 100 feet in diameter. A total of 17 alien bodies were
recovered from those two crafts. Of even greater significance was the
discovery of a large number of human body parts stored within both of these
vehicles. A demon had reared its head and paranoia quickly took hold of
everyone 'in the know.' The Secret lid immediately became a Top Secret lid
and was screwed down tight. THE SECURITY BLANKET WAS EVEN TIGHTER THAN THAT
IMPOSED UPON THE MANHATTAN PROJECT. In the coming years these events were to
become the most closely guarded secrets in the history of the world.

"A special group of America's top scientists were organized under the name
Project SIGN in December 1947 to study the phenomena. The whole nasty
business was contained. Project SIGN evolved into Project GRUDGE in December
1948. A low-level collection and disinformation project named BLUE BOOK was
formed under GRUDGE. Sixteen volumes were to come out of GRUDGE. "Blue
Teams" were put together to recover the crashed disks or live aliens. The
Blue Teams were later to evolve into Alpha Teams under Project POUNCE.

"DURING THESE EARLY YEARS THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE AND THE CENTRAL

[CTRL] Cat's Eyes

1999-10-09 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From the BBC

" It is research that has enormous implications."

{{Begin}}
Friday, October 8, 1999 Published at 20:57 GMT 21:57 UK

Sci/Tech

Computer uses cat's brain to see

Scientists have literally seen the world through cat's eyes

By BBC News Online Science Editor Dr David Whitehouse
In what is bound to become a much debated and highly controversial experiment,
a team of US scientists have wired a computer to a cat's brain and created
videos of what the animal was seeing.

According to a paper published in the Journal of Neuroscience, Yang Dan, Garret
Stanley and Fei Li of the University of California at Berkeley have been able
to "reconstruct natural scenes with recognizable moving objects."

The researchers attatched electrodes to 177 cells in the so-called thalamus
region of the cat's brain and monitored their activity.

The thalamus is connected directly to the cat's eyes via the optic nerve. Each
of its cells is programmed to respond to certain features in the cat's field of
view. Some cells "fire" when they record an edge in the cat's vision, others
when they see lines at certain angles, etc. This way the cat's brain acquires
the information it needs to reconstruct an image.
Recognizable objects

Scientists saw recognisable objects

The scientists recorded the patterns of firing from the cells in a computer.
They then used a technique they describe as a "linear decoding technique" to
reconstruct an image.

To their amazement they say they saw natural scenes with recognizable objects
such as people's faces. They had literally seen the world through cat's eyes.
Other scientists have hailed this as an important step in our understanding of
how signals are represented and processed in the brain.

It is research that has enormous implications.

Artificial brain extensions

It could prove a breakthrough in the hoped-for ability to wire artificial limbs
directly into the brain. More amazingly, it could lead to artificial brain
extensions.

By understanding how information can be presented to the brain, some day,
scientists may be able to build devices that interface directly with the brain,
providing access to extra data storage or processing power or the ability to
control devices just by thinking about them.

One of the scientists behind this current breakthrough, Garret Stanley, now
working at Harvard University, has already predicted machines with brain
interfaces.

Such revolutionary devices should not be expected in the very near future. They
will require decoding information from elsewhere in the brain looking at
signals that are far more complicated than those decoded from the cat's
thalamus but, in a way, the principle has been demonstrated.


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[CTRL] Koresh Doctrine

1999-10-09 Thread Joe Feck

gopher://wiretap.spies.com/00/Library/Religion/Fringe/koresh.txt



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen Tice)
Subject: Koresh Doctrine 
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Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
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[Note: This contains all 4 parts, concatenated.]

Koresh Text from 3-02 (part 1 of 4)Analysts' Notesjst/sdt
 | ==
March 2nd, 1993. |
 |
My name is Dave Koresh.  I'm Speaking to | I. Introduction to the Revelation
you from Mount Carmel center.  The first |of Jesus Christ.
thing that I would like to introduce, in |
our subject, is the reasons for the reve-|
lation of Jesus Christ.  |
 |  A. The Reasons for
 |
In  the Book of  Revelation,  commentary |   1. To Show What Must Come.
states,  that what John  has  written in |
Scripture,  is  nothing  other  than the |
revelation  of  Jesus Christ  which  God |
gave  to him,  to show  to his  servants |
things  which must shortly come to pass. |
And he sent and signified it,  signified |
it, by his angel unto his servant John.  |
 |
Now,  John bear  the Record of God,  and |   2. To Bless the Reader.
the Word of Christ,  and  of  all things |
that  he saw.  In the  first  chapter of |
Revelation it says, "Blessed is the man, |   Rev. 1:3
.. blessed is he that readeth, and they |
that  hear the  words of  this prophecy, |
and those who "keep" the things that are |
written  therein,  for  the  time  is at |
hand."   |
 |
The Scripture states John writes this to |   3. To Address the Churches.
the  seven churches  which are  in Asia: |   Rev. 1:11
Ephesus, Smyrna, Thyatira, Sardis, Phil- |
adelphia, Laodicea, so forth. Naturally, |   also Pergamos
we  must  understand  that  we're not in |
Asia.  These churches once existed  long |
ago,  being  beneficiaries of  the power |
and the gifts of the gospel. It was ori- |
ginally introduced by,  The Man himself. |
Some knew him  as  Jesus Christ;  others |
knew him by the name -- Yeshua.  |
 |
What  we're trying  to present today may |   4. To Impart the Burden of
in somewise shed  a better light  in re- |  Heart, Mind, and Spirit.
gards to my situation and my predicament |
here at Mount Carmel. One point I'd like |a. Record of Christ's life.
to bring out before we continue, is that |
if we take a look at Matthew, Mark, Luke |   The Gospel Writers.
and John,  we see  the  "burden of these |
ancient  writers:"  the burden of heart, |
the burden of mind and spirit, to put in |
a scriptural record,  their personal ex- |
perience with Christ.  A record  that is |b. For anyone to read.
to be received by men, all men, who will |
receive it.  |
 |
The point is true that not all have seen |   5. Witnesses of the Rejection
Christ, but it has been in the wisdom of |  of the Son of God.
God that certain men  who were witnesses |
of his life, and death, and resurrection,|
that they would bear witness by the writ-|a. Witnesses for Christ
ten word, and testify to the generations |   ie Apostles  Disciples
to come,  of the terrible happening that |
took place, when the men of that genera- |   cf. Prophets, as witnesses
tion  would not  believe  in the man who |   for God
through so many obvious evidences proved |
beyond shadows of doubt, that he was the |
Son of God.  |
 |  B. The Revealer: Jesus Christ.
 |   1. Jesus Rejected.
 |
But sad to say, if we take a look of the |a. Left Juda under threat of
Record of John,  the `Gospel Writer'  of |   death.
John, say Chapter 7. We see in Scripture |
John writes  that after certain  events, |   John 7:1
after  these  things  "Jesus  walked  in |
Galilee:"  he would not walk openly, "he |   Koresh is quoting the Bible,
would not walk  in Jewry,"  he would not |   from the Book of John.
walk amongst the Jews, "because the Jews |
sought to kill him."   We  might  wonder |
why?  Wasn't Christ a such a good man??  |
 |
"Now the Jews' Feast of Tabernacles  was |b. His own brethren doubt him.
at hand. His brethren therefore said un- |   John 7:2
to him, Depart hence, and go into Judea, |   John 7:3
that  thy disciples  also  may  see  thy |
works  that thou doeth.  For there is no |   John 7:4
man that doeth any thing in secret,  and |
he himself  seeketh  to be known openly. |
If thou do these 

[CTRL] CIA May Have Role in Journalist's Murder

1999-10-09 Thread Lucio Benedetto

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CIA May Have Role in Journalist's Murder
By Vernon Loeb
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, October 9, 1999; Page A15
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-10/09/097l-100999-idx.html

A declassified State Department memorandum released yesterday cites
circumstantial evidence that the CIA "may have played an unfortunate part"
in the murder of an American journalist in Chile in 1973, shedding new light
on a case that triggered a furor in Washington and inspired the movie
"Missing."

While the State Department's concerns about the government's handling of the
case were disclosed years ago to the family of the journalist, Charles
Horman, the newly declassified memo includes the most explicit reference to
date about possible CIA involvement in Horman's execution by Chilean
operatives after Gen. Augusto Pinochet came to power in a coup.

Drafted in August 1976 by Rudy Fimbres, then head of the State Department's
office of Chilean affairs, the memo says:

"U.S. intelligence may have played an unfortunate part in Horman's death. At
best, it was limited to providing or confirming information that helped
motivate his murder by the [government of Chile]. At worst, U.S.
intelligence was aware the [government of Chile] saw Horman in a rather
serious light and U.S. officials did nothing to discourage the logical
outcome of [Chilean] paranoia."

Joyce Horman, the journalist's widow, read emotionally from the document at
a Washington news conference yesterday and later said in an interview, "I
think this is close to the smoking pistol here."

Horman and human rights activists were celebrating a British magistrate's
decision hours earlier to extradite Pinochet to Spain to stand trial for
human rights abuses. They also applauded yesterday's release of 1,100 U.S.
government documents about Chile, which were declassified in a review
ordered by President Clinton in February after Pinochet's arrest.

But they accused the CIA of failing to comply fully with Clinton's order,
noting that agency officials still have not released any information about
the CIA's role in the coup that toppled Chilean President Salvador Allende.

The CIA responded yesterday by releasing a 1978 letter to the Justice
Department, drafted in response to a lawsuit filed by Horman's family,
stating that the "CIA had no prior knowledge of and played no role in either
the death of Mr. Horman or in the events surrounding the subsequent
disposition of his remains."

Mark Mansfield, a CIA spokesman, also promised that "covert action-related
documents will be reviewed for declassification and released in the future."

Peter Kornbluh, a researcher at the nonprofit National Security Archive,
said another State Department document released yesterday confirms for the
first time that a U.S. official assigned to handle the Horman case,
identified previously as a deputy consul, was actually a CIA officer.

Kornbluh said the official served as a go-between with Rafael Gonzalez, a
Chilean intelligence operative involved in the Horman case. A State
Department document released yesterday notes that Gonzalez made repeated
claims that the "CIA got 'mixed up' in Horman's death and was 'behind it.' "


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[CTRL] CIVILIAN INTERNMENT CAMPS

1999-10-09 Thread earthman

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http://www.thewinds.org/archive/government/camp9-97.html

CIVILIAN INTERNMENT CAMPS UP FOR REVIEW
In a revealing admission the Director of Resource Management for the
U.S. Army confirmed the validity of a memorandum relating to the
establishment of a civilian inmate labor program under development by the
Department of the Army. The document states, "Enclosed for your review and
comment is the draft Army regulation on civilian inmate labor utilization"
and the procedure to "establish civilian prison camps on installations."
Cherith Chronicle, June 1997.

Civilian internment camps or prison camps, more commonly known as
concentration camps, have been the subject of much rumor and speculation
during the past few years in America. Several publications have devoted
space to the topic and many talk radio programs have dealt with the issue.

However, Congressman Henry Gonzales (D, Texas) clarified the question of
the existence of civilian detention camps. In an interview the congressman
stated, "the truth is yes - you do have these stand by provisions, and the
plans are here...whereby you could, in the name of stopping
terrorism...evoke the military and arrest Americans and put them in
detention camps."

HISTORY OF CIVILIAN INTERNMENT CAMPS
The concept of mass internment camps was implemented during the decade
of the 1930's when the idea was either integrated into national security
planning or put to actual use in the world's three socialistic experiments -
the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany and the United States under Roosevelt.

On March 9, 1933, Adolph Hitler put his Dachau detention center into
operation where thousands of his own countrymen were sent. (Source: Martin
Gilber,The Holocaust).  Stalin exterminated 7 to 10 million in his rural
collectivization program from 1931-1933 and another 10 million in the purges
of 1934-1939. It was this decade that the Soviet Gulag proved its worth. On
August 24, 1939, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover met with FDR to develop a
detention plan for the United States. Five months after this meeting, Hitler
opened the Auschwitz detention center in Poland.

On August 3, 1948, J. Edgar Hoover met with Attorney General J. Howard
McGrath to form a plan whereby President Truman could suspend constitutional
liberties during a national emergency. The plan was code-named "Security
Portfolio" and, when activated, it would authorize the FBI to summarily
arrest up to 20,000 persons and place them in national security detention
camps. Prisoners would not have the right to a court hearing or habeas
corpus appeal. Meanwhile, "Security Portfolio" allowed the FBI to develop a
watch list of those who would be detained, as well as detailed information
on their physical appearance, family, place of work, etc. (David Burnham,
Above the Law).

Two years later Congress approved the Internal Security Act of 1950
which contained a provision authorizing an emergency detention plan. Hoover
was unhappy with this law because it did not suspend the constitution and it
guaranteed the right to a court hearing (habeas corpus). "For two years,
while the FBI continued to secretly establish the detention camps and work
out detailed seizure plans for thousands of individuals, Hoover kept
badgering...[Attorney General McGrath for] official permission to ignore the
1950 law and carry on with the more ferocious 1948 program. On November 25,
1952, the attorney general...caved in to Hoover." ibid.

Congress repealed the Emergency Detention Act of 1950 more than twenty
years later in 1971. Seemingly the threat of civilian internment in the
United States was over, but not in reality. The Senate held hearings in
December, 1975, revealing the ongoing internment plan which had never been
terminated. The report, entitled, "Intelligence Activities, Senate
Resolution 21", disclosed the covert agenda. In a series of documents, memos
and testimony by government informants, the picture emerged of the designs
by the federal government to monitor, infiltrate, arrest and incarcerate a
potentially large segment of American society.

The Senate report also revealed the existence of the Master Search
Warrant (MSW) and the Master Arrest Warrant (MAW) which are currently in
force. The MAW document, authorized by the United States Attorney General,
directs the head of the FBI to: "Arrest persons whom I deem dangerous to the
public peace and safety. These persons are to be detained and confined until
further order." The MSW also instructs the FBI Director to "search certain
premises where it is believed that there may be found contraband, prohibited
articles, or other materials in violation of the Proclamation of the
President of the United States." It includes such items as firearms,
shortwave radio receiving sets, cameras, propaganda materials, printing
presses, mimeograph machines, membership and financial records of
organizations or groups that have been declared subversive, or may be

[CTRL] Unabomber Manifesto

1999-10-09 Thread Joe Feck



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[CTRL] Kaczynski: Volunteer for Mind Control Experiments at Harvard

1999-10-09 Thread Joe Feck

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We're Reaping Tragic Legacy From Drugs | ALEXANDER COCKBURN

July 6, 1999

Culture: From government LSD experiments to overuse of drugs like
Ritalin,
the consequences are overwhelming

It turns out that Theodore Kaczynski, a.k.a. the Unabomber,
was a volunteer in mind-control experiments sponsored by the
CIA at Harvard in the late 1950s and early 1960s.

Michael Mello, author of the recently published book, "The
United States of America vs. Theodore John Kaczynski," notes
that at some point in his Harvard years -- 1958 to 1962 --
Kaczynski agreed to be the subject of "a psychological
experiment."  Mello identifies the chief researcher for these
only as a lieutenant colonel in World War II, working for
the CIA's predecessor organization, the Office of Strategic
Services.  In fact, the man experimenting on the young
Kaczynski was Dr. Henry Murray, who died in 1988.

Murray became preoccupied by psychoanalysis in the 1920s,
drawn to it through a fascination with Herman Melville's
"Moby Dick," which he gave to Sigmund Freud, who duly made
the excited diagnosis that the whale was a father figure.
After spending the 1930s developing personality theory,
Murray was recruited to the OSS at the start of the war,
applying his theories to the selection of agents and also
presumably to interrogation.

As chairman of the Department of Social Relations at Harvard,
Murray zealously prosecuted the CIA's efforts to carry
forward experiments in mind control conducted by Nazi doctors
in the concentration camps.  The overall program was under
the control of the late Sidney Gottlieb, head of the CIA's
technical services division.  Just as Harvard students were
fed doses of LSD, psilocybin and other potions, so too were
prisoners and many unwitting guinea pigs.

Sometimes the results were disastrous.  A dram of LSD fed by
Gottlieb himself to an unwitting U.S. army officer, Frank
Olson, plunged Olson into escalating psychotic episodes,
which culminated in Olson's fatal descent from an upper
window in the Statler-Hilton in New York.  Gottlieb was the
object of a lawsuit not only by Olson's children but also by
the sister of another man, Stanley Milton Glickman, whose
life had disintegrated into psychosis after being unwittingly
given a dose of LSD by Gottlieb.

What did Murray give Kaczynski?  Did the experiment's
long-term effects help tilt him into the Unabomber's
homicidal rampages?  The CIA's mind experiment program was
vast.  How many other human time bombs were thus primed?
How many of them have exploded?

There are other human time bombs, primed in haste, ignorance
or indifference to long-term consequences.  Amid all the
finger-pointing to causes prompting the recent wave of
schoolyard killings, not nearly enough clamor has been raised
about the fact that many of these teenagers suddenly
exploding into mania were on a regimen of antidepressants.
Eric Harris, one of the shooters at Columbine, was on Luvox.
Kip Kinkel, who killed his parents and two students in
Oregon, was on Prozac.

There are a number of other instances.  Apropos possible
linkage, Dr. Peter Breggin, author of books on Prozac and
Ritalin, has said, "I have no doubt that Prozac can
contribute to violence and suicide.  I've seen many cases.
In the recent clinical trial, 6% of the children became
psychotic on Prozac.  And manic psychosis can lead to
violence."

A 15-year-old girl attending a ritzy liberal arts school in
the Northeast told me that 80% of the kids in her class were
on Prozac, Ritalin or Dexedrine.  The pretext used by the
school authorities is attention deficit disorder or attention
deficit hyperactivity disorder, or ADHD, with a diagnosis
made on the basis of questions such as: "Do you find yourself
daydreaming or looking out the window?"

Ritalin is being given to about 2 million American
schoolchildren.  A 1986 article by Richard Scarnati in the
International Journal of the Addictions lists more than a
hundred adverse reactions to Ritalin, including paranoid
delusions, paranoid psychosis, amphetamine-like psychosis
and terror.

Meanwhile, uncertainty reigns on the precise nature of the
complaint that Ritalin is supposed to be treating.  One panel
reviewing the proceedings at a conference on ADHD last year
even doubted whether the disorder is a "valid" diagnosis of a
broad range of children's behavior, and said there was little
evidence Ritalin did any good.  In 1996, the Drug Enforcement
Administration denounced the use of Ritalin and concluded
that "the dramatic increase in the use of [Ritalin] in the
1990s should be viewed as a marker or warning to society."

Indeed.  Land mines now litter the 

[CTRL] JFK Sought END of Federal Reserve

1999-10-09 Thread earthman

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10.1.99
JFK Sought END of Federal Reserve!

(C) 1999 NewsHawk Inc.

President JFK's Executive order 0, never since repealed or overridden by
any subsequent president, would have led to the end of the Federal Reserve
Bank, due to the fact it authorized the U.S. government to create it's own
money BACKED BY SILVER; the gone but NOT forgotten paper money called SILVER
CERTIFICATES.

It would have PREVENTED the U.S. government being little more than a "slave"
to the Federal Reserve Bank, as it HAS SINCE BECOME after Kennedy's
assassination in 1963. In fact Kennedy's Executive Order 0 would have
without doubt led to the literal END of the PRIVATELY OWNED, for-profit
Federal Reserve Bank itself, as its sole reason for existence is lending
money to the U.S. Government at the highest interest rate possible, to
enable
the government to carry on ALL it's functions. The Order would have kept our
national debt from reaching the insanely high levels which it has, because
instead of "borrowing" from the Federal Reserve with interest in order to
create new money, the government could have printed new SILVER CERTIFICATES
on it's own, backed by the silver reserves of the U.S. Government.

I remember those silver certificates well; and in fact a number of times
took
them to the bank in the early 1960s to redeem them for big, fat SILVER
DOLLARS (ALL silver too, mind you, NOT "sandwich" coins). In short, a
DOLLAR'S WORTH of silver.

Those were the days, all right.

Obviously such a state of affairs did NOT appeal to the Illuminatists/New
World Order kingpins behind the scenes and their plans for the FUTURE of the
United States: as just another slave state utterly beholden to and under
control of globalist, NWO power brokers.

One MORE reason these globalist gangsters had Kennedy assassinated. Shortly
after his death silver certificates disappeared forever and were replaced
with the worthless toilet paper known as Federal reserve notes--backed by
ZERO (NOTHING) -- which serves as U.S. currency today.

In our opinion this serves as a further SOLID reminder of the fact that JFK
was one of our last uncompromised (SOMEWHAT at least) presidents; a man who
actually believed in America, in it's potentials, it's essential
worthwhileness and it's role as a force for good in the world.

Yet JFK was certainly no creampuff. Though he rightly bailed out of the
suicidal, screwball "Bay of Pigs" Cuba invasion plans being floated by
fascistic goons and lunatics both in and out of the government as well by
foreign interests, Kennedy showed serious, hardcore strength and
determination in telling Krushchev just where to shove the Soviet missiles
Krushchev and company were trying to position in Cuba. The Soviets backed
off.

We KNOW also Kennedy wanted to tear the CIA to shreds and scatter the pieces
to the wind. We KNOW also that after being misled and duped by the CIA and
other military/spook slimeballs about Vietnam, he wanted to get our butts
out
of there QUICK!

JFK, despite all his many and over-publicized flaws, was what I would call a
genuine patriot.

In many ways, the assassination of JFK marked the beginning of a period of
insidious, severe, unilateral and ever-worsening decline in integrity of the
federal government as a whole and in the TRUE quality of life for the
American people--and I'm NOT talking about us having more and slicker cars;
more gadgets; more mindless, violence-oriented "entertainment (or is that
"ENTRAINMENT?!"); more color TVs; more hot tubs; more JUNK. And on top of
this, in MOST American families BOTH parents must now work to pay for all
this stuff and the half-dozen mortgages; far too often leaving the kids
"home
alone" with all those personal computers, on which they can play video games
which train them to mass-murder.


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[CTRL] The Armen Condo Letter

1999-10-09 Thread pmeares

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The Armen Condo Letter
by George Mercier
http://claimhelp.com/initiative/incon000.htm

-- background --

In August, 1984, Armen Condo, Founder of Your Heritage
Protection Agency ("YHPA") was being prosecuted by the
Federal Government under numerous tax-related statutes,
as well as other collateral charges such as mail fraud.

The YHPA is still (the record holds to this day), the
largest organized tax protester group to ever have
existed in the United States (with respectful deference
to our Founding Fathers and innumerable fellow unsung
"tax protester" patriots living and laying their lives
on the line in the 1700s for our benefit today). In its
heyday in the 1970s/1980s, the YHPA's dues-paying
membership reached well into the 20,000 to 30,000
range, before it was ultimately brought into a state of
non-existence through the intervention of strongly
persuasive federal influences.

The YHPA published a fairly thick newspaper, and
continued on in their efforts for several years, with
their primary focus based upon the illegitimacy of
Federal Reserve Notes, contending thereon that receipt
of said Federal Reserve Notes did not constitute
"income," therefore, no one receiving said notes was
liable under federal income tax statutes. Although
additional proprietary "tax protester" positions were
routinely addressed, the YHPA's primary focus remained
centered around Federal Reserve Notes.

Curiously, as a side note, individuals choosing to join
the YHPA (usually in the context of a dinner/seminar
setting), were guided through a "joining process" at
the conclusion of the seminar, where dual ID photos
were taken (the YHPA kept one photo, and you received
the other, using a dual-photo camera similar to the
dual-photo cameras used at your local Department of
Motor Vehicles or local passport photo vendor) and
slick, professional looking "ID cards" were processed
on the spot and given to each new member at that time.

In hindsight, the stated reasons given at these
dinner/seminars with respect to the "necessity" of
having/creating a photo ID card were rather specious at
best, and in fact, there was some additional hindsight
talk that perhaps the YHPA was a Federal "Tax
Protester" Sting Operation all along, designed to
attract and then identify. [For example, in the
U.S.S.R., the KGB is known to have secretly "created"
(sponsored is more like it) -- various protester groups
for the sole purpose of throwing out some attractive
philosophy designed to attract a certain type of
individual, and then having "extracted" those
individuals from society, and having thus identified
them -- then shutting down the organization and
arresting the members. This practice is a utilization
of the principle known as the "Doctrine of False
Opposition."]

After all, it is rather suspicious, if not ironic, that
an organization purporting to be highly critical of
"government," and taking a relatively "radical"
approach to same (non-filing tax protesters "sign up
here..."), and having an orientation favoring the
individual over government in general, would in fact so
closely emulate "Big Brother" tactics such as requiring
a photo ID card for all of its new members, and for
reasons that would not normally hold up to intellectual
scrutiny or inspection except for the fact that within
the context of the actual joining process, those people
were not concerning themselves at the time with such
incongruities, but were instead swept up in the
excitement and impetus of the "I'm Mad As Hell and I'm
Not Going To Take Anymore" sentiment generated at
typical YHPA recruitment seminars.

Against this backdrop, George Mercier wrote a
thoughtful advisory letter to Armen Condo in August of
1984, seeking to correctively alter the course Condo
was then pursuing vis-a-vis his federal case, with the
objective of the letter being oriented towards keeping
Armen Condo out of a federal cage. And with respect to
Armen Condo, the letter was a wash, as Armen Condo was
highly unreceptive to its contents (being in an
unteachable state of mind, and so he rejected it "in
toto"); however, the letter did not stop there with
Armen Condo. In fact, it somehow "exploded" into the
general patriot pipeline/network, and was widely copied
and circulated all across the country. (Although Armen
Condo reacted adversely to the letter, it found a very
receptive and appreciative audience amongst patriots
across the nation).

One such copy of the letter found its way into the
hands of Frank May, who subsequently wrote an
intelligent and thoughtful letter to George Mercier,
seeking an expansion of the enticing data contained in
the Armen Condo Letter. Expansion he wanted --
expansion he got, because George Mercier in turn wrote
a reply letter to Frank May -- a 745-page letter, which
then became a privately published book entitled
"Invisible Contracts - The Frank May Letter" (dated
December 31, 1985).

So, without further commentary, what follows is the
original letter to 

[CTRL] The Paganization of Christianity Nearly Complete.

1999-10-09 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Welcome the Whole Pagan Camel into the Tent
http://www.thewinds.org/archive/religion/pagan10-97.html

Here's more on UN trying to make all the world's religions uniform so we
all believe in what they do which makes world communism much
easier.After all wars are fought over religion and we can't have any
divisions for one world govt. They still have to worry about race but
one out of two ain't bad. They are just imitating the drama of
evangalism to get them out of it a into brotherhood of man philosophy.
Next thing its global responsibility. Like lambs to the slaughter.
Nicky


 Enter the United Religions initiative. The same year Promise
Keepers handed out The Masculine Journey in Boulder, over
 six thousand religious leaders from around the world gathered
at the Parliament of the World's Religions in Chicago where
Swiss theologian Hans Küng presented his "Declaration of a
Global Ethic." This "ethic" describes itself as "an irrevocable,
unconditional norm for all areas of life, for families and
 communities, for nations and religion" and all who will be
 considered "authentically human" must accept its tenets. The document
makes no mention of man's duties to
God, and the word "God" doesn't even appear in it. It does, however,
spell out one's "global responsibility",
that is, "responsibility for fellow humans and for the planet earth."
(Source: Wm. Grigg, The New American ,
 August 18, 1997).

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[CTRL] Psychiatrists urged to prepare for terrorism effects

1999-10-09 Thread earthman

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Subject: [BIOWAR] Psychiatrists urged to prepare for terrorism effects


From Excite News, http://news.excite.com/news/r/991006/19/health-bio13
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Psychiatrists urged to prepare for terrorism effects

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Updated 7:03 PM ET October 6, 1999

NEW YORK, Oct 06 (Reuters Health) -- Widespread mental health disorders
would follow an act of terrorism involving chemical or biological weapons
on
US soil, making early and ongoing psychiatric treatment essential for
affected communities, predicts a psychiatrist working with the US Navy.

"Remote though the possibility of a terrorist-authored chemical or
biological incident in an American community may be, we must prepare for
one," according to Dr. Cleto DiGiovanni, Jr., from the National Naval
Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland. His review article is published in
the
October issue of the American Journal of Psychiatry.

In his report, DiGiovanni catalogs the breadth of mental illnesses that can
result from the actual or feared exposure to chemical or biological
weapons.
Nerve agents, for example, can cause depression, insomnia, impaired
thinking, and antisocial thoughts. Even the drug most commonly used to
treat
nerve agent exposure, atropine, "can produce psychiatric side effects
ranging from drowsiness to hyperactivity, hallucinations, and coma," he
writes.

Biological weapons can diminish the ability to think clearly and produce
depression, irritability, and hallucinations, he adds.

One role of psychiatrists in the management of domestic terrorism is to
distinguish between physical effects and psychiatric effects of the agent
or
the threat of exposure. According to DiGiovanni, the uncertainty and
surprise surrounding possible exposure to unfamiliar threats can spawn
fear,
panic, and psychosomatic disorders. A careful psychiatric examination can
sort out the physical effects of the agents from the psychological response
of the exposed person.

In order to be able to distinguish between physical and psychiatric
effects,
though, "psychiatrists should become familiar with the effects of, and
treatment for, the chemical and biological agents that may be used in a
terrorist incident," he suggests.

Psychiatrists will be involved in several aspects of the management of a
chemical or biological incident, according to DiGiovanni. "That role
includes immediate treatment of individual patients and groups of patients
who are experiencing the psychological impact of a mass disaster,
organizing
and managing the delivery of mental healthcare by others to the community,
and assisting local medical facilities and community leaders in the control
of widespread anxiety, fear, and perhaps even panic," he writes.

Potential patients can take some comfort in the fact that effective
therapies are available for the range of psychological problems they might
experience as a result of domestic terrorism, DiGiovanni reports, although
survivors of any disaster could require prolonged care.

SOURCE: American Journal of Psychiatry 1999;156:1500-1505

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Re: [CTRL] JFK Sought END of Federal Reserve...CAPITALISTS MURDERED JFK!

1999-10-09 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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And now you know who murdered JFK (in general terms) and why. It is easy to
explain how it is that those who set monetary policy using the "funny
numbers" of capitalism will always generate more numbers for themselves than
others. It is like being the dealer in Vegas and also getting to CHOOSE your
own hand. Wake up yo'all. "Capitalism" is the scourge of the human race!!!
FWP.

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Date: Saturday, October 09, 1999 4:57 PM
Subject: [CTRL] JFK Sought END of Federal Reserve


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10.1.99
JFK Sought END of Federal Reserve!

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President JFK's Executive order 0, never since repealed or overridden
by
any subsequent president, would have led to the end of the Federal Reserve
Bank, due to the fact it authorized the U.S. government to create it's own
money BACKED BY SILVER; the gone but NOT forgotten paper money called
SILVER
CERTIFICATES.

It would have PREVENTED the U.S. government being little more than a
"slave"
to the Federal Reserve Bank, as it HAS SINCE BECOME after Kennedy's
assassination in 1963. In fact Kennedy's Executive Order 0 would have
without doubt led to the literal END of the PRIVATELY OWNED, for-profit
Federal Reserve Bank itself, as its sole reason for existence is lending
money to the U.S. Government at the highest interest rate possible, to
enable
the government to carry on ALL it's functions. The Order would have kept
our
national debt from reaching the insanely high levels which it has, because
instead of "borrowing" from the Federal Reserve with interest in order to
create new money, the government could have printed new SILVER CERTIFICATES
on it's own, backed by the silver reserves of the U.S. Government.

I remember those silver certificates well; and in fact a number of times
took
them to the bank in the early 1960s to redeem them for big, fat SILVER
DOLLARS (ALL silver too, mind you, NOT "sandwich" coins). In short, a
DOLLAR'S WORTH of silver.

Those were the days, all right.

Obviously such a state of affairs did NOT appeal to the Illuminatists/New
World Order kingpins behind the scenes and their plans for the FUTURE of
the
United States: as just another slave state utterly beholden to and under
control of globalist, NWO power brokers.

One MORE reason these globalist gangsters had Kennedy assassinated. Shortly
after his death silver certificates disappeared forever and were replaced
with the worthless toilet paper known as Federal reserve notes--backed by
ZERO (NOTHING) -- which serves as U.S. currency today.

In our opinion this serves as a further SOLID reminder of the fact that JFK
was one of our last uncompromised (SOMEWHAT at least) presidents; a man who
actually believed in America, in it's potentials, it's essential
worthwhileness and it's role as a force for good in the world.

Yet JFK was certainly no creampuff. Though he rightly bailed out of the
suicidal, screwball "Bay of Pigs" Cuba invasion plans being floated by
fascistic goons and lunatics both in and out of the government as well by
foreign interests, Kennedy showed serious, hardcore strength and
determination in telling Krushchev just where to shove the Soviet missiles
Krushchev and company were trying to position in Cuba. The Soviets backed
off.

We KNOW also Kennedy wanted to tear the CIA to shreds and scatter the
pieces
to the wind. We KNOW also that after being misled and duped by the CIA and
other military/spook slimeballs about Vietnam, he wanted to get our butts
out
of there QUICK!

JFK, despite all his many and over-publicized flaws, was what I would call
a
genuine patriot.

In many ways, the assassination of JFK marked the beginning of a period of
insidious, severe, unilateral and ever-worsening decline in integrity of
the
federal government as a whole and in the TRUE quality of life for the
American people--and I'm NOT talking about us having more and slicker cars;
more gadgets; more mindless, violence-oriented "entertainment (or is that
"ENTRAINMENT?!"); more color TVs; more hot tubs; more JUNK. And on top of
this, in MOST American families BOTH parents must now work to pay for all
this stuff and the half-dozen mortgages; far too often leaving the kids
"home
alone" with all those personal computers, on which they can play video
games
which train them to mass-murder.


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Re: [CTRL] The Paganization of Christianity Nearly Complete.

1999-10-09 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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hi,

I have to say that Christianity has not got a leg to stand on in the first
place - as it went about assimilating every Pagan ideology it could find
turning the local dieties into saints etc eg. Black Madonna, Bridgit etc
etc etc etc

Andrew

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Re: [CTRL] Shape Shifting

1999-10-09 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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 I think the reptilian thing is an add-on as an attempt to
discredit the rest, which is real.

No, samantha - I've done tons of independent research, and have not read
one of Ikes books - yet I come to the conclusion - that a humanoid
reptilian species walks on the earth and under it.

Andrew hennessey

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Re: [CTRL] The Paganization of Christianity Nearly Complete.

1999-10-09 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Well it may have worked out if people made it less complicated without
additions. However it is an improvement on rules which make stoning for
adultry, hands chopped off for stealing, meditiating for hours trying to
achieve Nirvana and generally loafing. What I'm contributing is about
the deception of UN to control us even what we believe. Then to make it
world law to follow this gaia worship. They want to take away away every
freedom we have to choose anything. We can only hope UN is too broke to
survive. Global = lack of sovereignity nowdays. Look at UK - forced to
have gays in the military by EU rules.They have endless statistics that
governments use, to say we are lagging behind other countries we must
catch up, and so more regulations are brought about which try to make a
sameness in policies. Now digital drivers licences in NZ, and coming to
UK and USA - satellite trackable. Canada will be saying we are not up to
date we will get them too etc Then Mexico and when NAFTA swallows the
rest of South America, they will be told our rules are that we have
digital drivers licences. Uniformity spreads like a disease, by
politicians who keep comparing themselves to other countries and don't
want to be last in these lists.

Nicky

Andrew Hennessey wrote:

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 hi,

 I have to say that Christianity has not got a leg to stand on in the first
 place - as it went about assimilating every Pagan ideology it could find
 turning the local dieties into saints etc eg. Black Madonna, Bridgit etc
 etc etc etc

 Andrew

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[CTRL] [Fwd: clip642@mosquitonet.com (Clipper)]HAARP

1999-10-09 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clipper)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:21:03 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(sent to USCMike1's 33,753+ readers - Please repost to your own mailing
lists
and newsgroups - Thanks)

Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al:


  Please read this post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clipper) about the
posibility that HIV-AIDS and the HAARP machine are linked to U.S. fed
government weapons.

USCMike1


Dear Clip:

  Yes, you are right about HIV-AIDS being an experiment and developed
for
biological warfare against people. However, it didn't get out of hand,
it was
planned that way.

   Also, HAARP was entered into the Congressional Record several years
ago as
a potential weapon against the enemies of America. Congress even noted
in the
Record that they demanded that the military NEVER use HAARP against
Americans
as it was so powerful and successful in its operation.

   HAARP is able to not only change and control the weather but also to
cause
earthquakes and be used as a death ray, which they have experimented
with for
many years.  By now it has been developed into a well controlled
devastating
death ray weapon.

   HAARP is a huge multiarray of antennas positioned on the ground in
Alaska
and four other places around the earth that directs tremendous
multi-mega
watts of energy skyward toward the Aurora Borealis or the Northern
Lights.

  Then the Aurora Borealis reacts and moves or shifts and can be
directed to
other parts of the globe and it heats up the atomosphere in an area that
normally does not get that much heat.

   Heated air masses rises and cold air masses rush in to take the place
of
the hot air that rose and left a vacuum.  This physical process is what
causes the winds and the weather in the first place.  So using HAARP
they
have been able to harness and control the weather and use it for evil
purposes.

   With the earthquakes, HAARP has been used to direct energy into the
fractured faults of the crust of the earth and as the earth tries to
shift to
releave the strain created by the HAARP energy the two touching crustal
plates give and slip and cause an earthquake.

  As far as the death ray part, they have been able to use microwave
energy
created by antenna array and direct it towards a victim and fry them  or
merely destroy the victim's brain so as to take him/her out of
commission and
hopefully to die.

  As I said earlier, I have developed an instrument that can detect the
very
intense lethal microwave death rays and warn you to immediately get out
of
the way and to get behind something metal because microwaves are
reflected by
metal.  I have plans for a special suit and hat that can protect you
from
EMPs - ElectroMagnetic Pulses, Microwaves, and ELF or Extremely Low
Frequencies.  The sensitive electronic meter that can detect microwave
energy
at low but dangerous levels I am still working on.

USCMike1

In a message dated 10/9/99 3:56:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Subj: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:  Native Americans in Oregon death
ratesunusually HIGH!
 Date:  10/9/99 3:56:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time
 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clipper)
 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The feds have developed special genetically engineered diseases
that will
  attack only certain ethnic/racial groups such as Native Americans and
Blacks.
   So in addition to those disease warfare elements they are also
zapping
them
  (and us) with microwaves, EMP, and HAARP energies.
 
 

From clip:

 You think maybe Aids was a premature biological weapon developed on the
east
coast
 that got out of hand and that maybe Haarp is nothing more than a smoke
screen used
 as a money generator for other projects? Let's blame Haarp. They need a
raise.

-Clip

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Re: [CTRL] Shape Shifting

1999-10-09 Thread Sammark4

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In a message dated 10/09/1999 7:07:15 PM CST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I think the reptilian thing is an add-on as an attempt to
  discredit the rest, which is real.

  No, samantha - I've done tons of independent research, and have not read
  one of Ikes books - yet I come to the conclusion - that a humanoid
  reptilian species walks on the earth and under it.


You know, I could even buy the prospect of a reptilian race below the
earth, especially since I heard the theory that when the comet hit the earth
long ago, some dinosaur species survived underground and then evolved.
Then tell me they're evil, that they eat children, that they walk above
ground projecting holographic images of humans, get elected to the Senate
(Robert Byrd -- alleged by Cathy O'Brien),  appointed as Secretary of State
(Madeline Albright) etc etc etc and then I'll want to know the price of that
bridge you're trying to sell me.
 People who murder, torture and maim children for power are cold-blooded
alright, and reptilians are cold-blooded animals.  It is a mildy creative
disinformation package to sell to the public, but I ain't buying it.

Samantha

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Re: [CTRL] SECRETS FROM THE VATICAN LIBRARY [1 of 6]

1999-10-09 Thread c. watson

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What happened to parts 2-6? Can't find them in the archive?

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Re: [CTRL] JFK Sought END of Federal Reserve

1999-10-09 Thread Sammark4

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In a message dated 10/09/1999 5:56:42 PM CST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 President JFK's Executive order 0, never since repealed or overridden by
  any subsequent president, would have led to the end of the Federal Reserve
  Bank, due to the fact it authorized the U.S. government to create it's own
  money BACKED BY SILVER; the gone but NOT forgotten paper money called
SILVER
  CERTIFICATES.

I'm confused.  It was never repealed or overridden but it is not in
place?  So it is "law" and we're not following it?  Also, can anyone help to
verify the order 0?  Or tell us where we might find verification?  Many
thanks if you can.

Samantha

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