[CTRL] FC: More on dead bodies, autopsy photos, and privacy rights (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- * In response to: http://www.politechbot.com/p-02062.html * From: Aimee Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Another 1A vs. privacy case: Lawsuit over autopsy photos Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 19:31:39 -0500 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [But can a dead man have any privacy interests in photographs of his body? Can his family members sue a web site that posted the photos for entertainment, amusement or profit? Does a dead man have interests in the physical integrity of his body? No. Nor does he have a cause of action that will survive his death for his heirs to assert if his body is injured - death has already occurred. To provide a remedy for this situation, the law has recognized the interests of family members through the 'ole mistreatment/mishandling of corpse actions, which the courts refer to as a special case. In a like vein, courts have given special consideration to the circumstances surrounding a person's death by recognizing a privacy interest in the decedent's heirs. Heirs generally do not succeed to a privacy claim as it is a personal tort, and does not normally survive the victim, adhering to the old common law of England. However, see Reid v. Pierce County, 961 P.2d 333 (Wash. 1998) (holding family members have privacy interests in the autopsy records of decedents). @ http://www.law.syr.edu/faculty/bender/torts/additionalcases/reid.pdf Within an FOIA context, courts have withheld JFK autopsy records and Challenger space shuttle recordings, finding that the records of the decedents were personal in nature, property of the decedents' estates, and not subject to disclosure. If so, is that any different in principle from photos and video that evening news airs every day? Invasion of privacy is often mischaracterized by the media as a singular cause of action. There are four privacy torts: unreasonable intrusion upon seclusion/private affairs, public disclosure of private facts, appropriation, and false light in the public eye. (Privacy mileage in your state may vary.) In the matter at hand, usually brought in terms of public disclosure of private facts, the courts will try to *balance* the competing interests by asking: (1) is the matter made public one which would be highly offensive and objectionable to a reasonable person?, and (2) does the public lack a legitimate interest in the information? Photos and video on the evening news are usually not highly offensive to a reasonable person, and are usually in the public interest. Why would it be permissible for the state to (before the new law passed) make the photos available to anyone willing to trek down to the courthouse but impermissible to publish them? Short answer: Because a reasonable basis for legislation is a legal term of art, and is often anything but reasonable. Law and commonsense are distinct concepts, often light-years apart when legislatures are in session.. Long answer: You ask why garnering public records would not be actionable as an intrusion upon seclusion/private affairs, yet publishing the information would be actionable as public disclosure of private facts. It does seem to defy logic. Courts have held that merely because a fact is in the public view does not mean that it should be subject to mass public disclosure when it does not involve a matter of public concern: the Justicefiles.org decision @ http://www.politechbot.com/docs/justicefiles.opinion.051001.html (...there is a compelling interest in keeping Social Security numbers private; the disclosure of that information is highly offensive to the reasonable person; it is not of legitimate concern to the public.) One of the very first privacy cases involved a celeb appearing on stage in *tights* when somebody took a picture with the aid of a flashlight (Manola v. Stevens, N.Y. Sup.Ct. 1890, in N.Y. Times, June 15, 18, 21, 1890 (defendant enjoined from publishing, a portrait of Manola is here: http://www.scu.edu/law/FacWebPage/Glancy/html/miss_m_i.html. While often cited in terms of appropriation, this early case still stands for the proposition that something can be rather public, and yet private. A woman's legs were rather private in 1890, and her feelings in this regard deserving of weighty consideration). See also, Daily Times Democrat v. Graham, 1964, 276, Ala. 380, 162 So.2d 474 (woman photographed when dress blown up in a fun house); Street v. National Broadcasting Co., 6th Cir. 1981, 645 F.2d 1227, certiorari dismissed 454 U.S. 1095, 102 S.Ct. 667 (finding no invasion of privacy in the historical drama of a rape which happened decades earlier, because the plaintiff was a public figure). Of late, the media has characterized 1A vs. privacy as a novel issue. The press gave birth to the latter in the pursuit of the former. [FN1] Aimee E. Farr Attorney At Law Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. Of the desirability -- indeed of the necessity -- of some such protection, there can, it is
[CTRL] FC: Scientology critic seeks asylum in Canada, reportedly arrested (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Some quick searches turned up no news articles about Henson's reported arrest. Background: http://www.politechbot.com/cgi-bin/politech.cgi?name=henson http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2001/05/23/henson/index.html -Declan ** From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 28 May 2001 21:56:06 - Subject: Henson arrested by heavily-armed swarm of police in Toronto This might be good to forward to media only, especially Keith's lawyer's contact info which should NOT be posted to ars at the moment lest it cause a firestorm of calls. (I presume the jail at Oakland, or wherever they send immigration prisoners, is where Keith is now. His lawyer could help on that, but only to media, not to alt.religion.scientology or wide fora.) Here's the flash, minimal as it is. I won't email anyone updates unless they explicitly express further interest. [Snip] One of Keiths lawyers has just spoken to Keith and Immigration. This is the situation: An Immigration warrant waas issued for Keiths Arrest For failure to declare to Immigration, when Keith entered Canada on May 12 --- Apparently, Henson was arrested by heavily-armed police at a shopping mall. His spiritual adviser Gregg Hagglund (or whatever you want to call him ;-) is taking him a red cross care package and may be visiting him for a while. I think he's incommunicado for a bit. There is a bail hearing tomorrow on this and then we'll find out exactly what's up. The SNAFU here (and the basic clusterfuck) is that his lawyer Guidy Mamann was poised to file the necessary papers tomorrow. Who knows what will happen? Deportation is almost the best case, with additional charges entirely possible, depending on whether or not the arrest was based on entirely bogus information. (Henson did not enter Canada as a fugitive, though a bench warrant was issued on May 18, six days after he entered Canada.) Here's Keith's counsel information from a press release by Gregg Hagglund. Mr. Guidy Mamann [EMAIL PROTECTED] of Mamann Associates. www.migrationlaw.com 74 Victoria Street, Suite 303 Toronto, Canada M5C 2A5 [phone number deleted per request. --DBM] And Keith's own contact information Keith Henson c/o Temple of At'L'An Refugee Committee 2237 Munns Ave. Oakville Ontario Canada L6H 3M9 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telephone: 905-844-6216 Henson's reluctant American counsel: James J. Harr of James O. Cripps Suite 4 PO Box 3540 133 N Buena Vista Hemet, California 92343 Phone: (909) 925-5024 Fax: (909) 652-2250 Henson's former counsel Graham Berry email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Riverside Press-Enterprise Reporter Erin Randolph Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (909) 487-5229 Websites featuring information on the case http://freehenson.da.ru (a redirector which will always point at the current home of the site) http://www.operatingthetan.com Current home of the Free Keith Henson site NOTE that all references to http://freehenson.tripod.com are permanently broken as I have no intention of ever using Tripod for anything of any kind ever again Point instead to http://freehenson.da.ru or http://www.operatingthetan.com http://cryptome.org This one might be responsible for the Slashdot one and I'm greatly pleased with it. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/17/0238223mode=thread Slashdot thread on Henson situation http://www.politechbot.com/cgi-bin/politech.cgi?name=henson A nicely selected and bandwidth-friendly distillation of some of the most critical material which has been posted to Declan McCullagh's well-regarded politech list - POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. To subscribe, visit http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ - A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A
Re: [CTRL] Erotic pictures to bring Bible back into fashion
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 28 May 2001, Aleisha Saba wrote: Well June shows here ignorance agan; here is item on Lennon and when one considers his big mouth cost him money, he back tracked.. Your 'quote' is from a 4th-party source, and is still taken out of context... Get a copy of the ACTUAL INTERVIEW, not what some hacks have reported to be the interview. Lennon never backtracked on what he ACTUALLY said in the original interview... Who cared?So Lennon bit the dust and no great loss. Lennon hardly 'bit the dust' due to this interview, and in fact the Beatles went on to greater heights, both artistically and monetarily, after this tempest in a teapot. And it was an extremely great loss to the world when he was assassinated...and keep in mind, I say this having been neither a great Beatle's fan nor a fan of Lennon's... Lennon stated the disciples were thick and ordinary... And the problem with this observation iswhat? ...the Beatles were as common as an old shoe They never hid their working-class roots... And your problem with working-class people iswhat? Perhaps you prefer the Rolling Stones, who came from much better economic backgrounds than the Beatles? ;-) and never lost their Limey accents - Lennon, unto the day he died in the streets gunned down by an admirerer. So who cares whether they lost their accents or not? Why should they? I suppose if I had said television was more popular than Jesus, I would have gotten away with it. I'm sorry I opened my mouth. I'm not anti-God, anti-Christ, or anti-religion. I was not knocking it. I was not saying we are greater or better. This was the whole crux of the 'greater interview' that he gave, from which his comments were both taken out of context and actually changed; and as he pointed out, he could have just as easily said TV or movies or comicbooks or golf were more popular than religion... I remember that a few weeks after the controversy broke here in the U.S., some publication actually published the WHOLE interview, and presented to people in the street, without attributing it to Lennon, and asked their opinion of the sentiments expressed. Not a one was outraged; yet before it was revealed who had made the comments, these same people were asked their opinion on the John Lennon the Beatles are greater than Christ pseudo-controversy...all of them expressed outrage at the alleged statement and vehemently condemned the Beatles in general and Lennon in particular. They were all quite taken back when they were told that the interview they'd just read was the actual interview from which Lennon's supposed comments were taken...most were quite contrite and admitted they had absolutely no problem with the actual sentiments expressed in the interview, in fact most sheepishly admitted that they AGREED with Lennon's comments... A few months later, in October 1966, the Archbishop of Boston agreed that the Beatles were more popular than Jesus Christ, modern times being what they were. That may have been in the very same article I describe in the previous paragraph It is interesting to observe that one reason why nobody cared about Lennon's comment in Britain was that they assumed it was just one man's opinion. In America, on the other hand, much of the furor had its wellspring in the fact that the Beatles enjoyed a status larger than mere mortals, and their opinions were not just opinions. Hence the very reaction to his comment helped to prove John's point. And Saba's posting this proves mine... June Check out Alternative Kite radio: http://www.live365.com/stations/242153 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] New York Post columnist reports GATA lawsuit
CASE MAY EXPOSE U.S. GOVERNMENT'S GOLDEN HANDSHAKE By John Crudele New York Post May 29, 2001 http://www.nypost.com/business/31434.htm Some of the alleged secret financial dealings between the Clinton administration and the financial markets could soon be made public. No, Monica's not blabbing again. These secrets could come out of legal proceeding in Boston that has gotten absolutely no publicity in this country although the foreign-language press has been keeping people somewhat up to date. The suit was filed by a guy named Reginald Howe, who is a member a Texas-based group called the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee. Neither he nor the group is wacko. Howe is a Harvard-trained, top-notch trial lawyer who is alleging that the U.S. government, in cahoots with New York banks, has purposely kept the price of gold artificially low for six years. GATA has been charging that the conspiracy was aimed at keeping the dollar strong. But it also -- perhaps inadvertently -- helped Wall Street make billions on bullion by borrowing gold from Central Banks at 1 percent interest rates, selling the gold, and then investing the proceeds in other markets at much higher rates of return. Howe, with GATA's help, alleges in Massachusetts Federal District Court that the maneuver was a sure-fire rig as long as the price of gold didn't rise -- which the government saw that it didn't. A trial date hasn't yet been set by Judge Reginald C. Lindsay, who recently heard arguments on whether the case should go forward. If it proceeds, the next important step will be discovery. That's when the gold bugs will get their anxious little hands on government secrets. If the judge cooperates and lets the goldies examine the government's briefs, there is no telling what will be discovered. * * * Washington came closer to being honest with last Friday's gross domestic product report, but the government just can't seem to utter the word recession. That word kinda sticks in my throat too. But ask any corporate leader in this country and you'll find out how bad business really is. And more than a few ordinary citizens might also give you an earful of the truth. So how close did the Bush administration come to admitting the truth? Not close enough. The latest GDP revision said that growth during the first three months of this year was only 1.3 percent on an annualized basis and not the 2 percent the government originally estimated. You might recall that this column immediately jumped all over that 2 percent number, and Washington only came around after very disappointing April jobs figures. The D.C.-ievers were lauded for their honesty. Well, take back the praise. First, you have to understand that the 1.3 percent growth is an annualized figure. The government is really saying that growth in the first quarter, by itself, was 1.3 percent-divided by four quarters. So the economy expanded in the first three months of 2001 by a barely noticeable 0.325 percent. Ah! but let's see how Washington managed to eke out even that much. First, the stata-magicians let stand some guesses that the trade deficit improved during the quarter. Those estimates are not likely to hold up, especially since penny-pinching American consumers were probably attracted to cheaper foreign goods. But the real magic in the GDP number has to do with inflation. The GDP's inflation indicator - which is called the deflator -- assumed prices rose by just 2.5 percent since last year. But another government inflation measure -- the ever-popular Consumer Price Index - already has pegged inflation as being a percentage point higher than that. Back when he was running for re-election in 1991, old man George Bush tried to convince Americans that the economy was doing much better than it clearly was. Annoyed voters knew better, so they kicked him out of office. It would probably be wise for the new President Bush not to follow in daddy's footsteps on this one. -END- Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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[CTRL] Privatization: Poland; Yugo
Dear friends,After considerable time, I succeeded to get the article onthe lessons of Polish privatisation experience for privatisation in Serbiapublished in the paper "Trade union commissar" , N0. 3124/155, 18 May 2001.I hade to remind the editors that even if they did not like the content,the debate was necessary and that I was taking the responsibility for the content and all the consequences, not them. I hope there will be some organised resistance to the acceptance ofthe proposed new privatisation/robbery law.All the best,Vera---Vera VratusaFaculty of PhilosophyDepartment of SociologyBelgrade University, YugoslaviaBitter Polish experience - Contribution to the privatisation debate in Serbia"Let post-communist Poland be a warning to Serbs and other nations who areentering the path to 'democracy' and a 'free-market' economy. This message was sent through Internet in December 2000 by Piotr Bein, theauthor of "A travelogue: To Serbia VIA Poland" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), andthe economy professor Kazimierz Poznanski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), theauthor of "Wielki przekret" (grand swindle), the best selling book in Polandsince it was published in February 2000. By this alarm sounding they wantedto stimulate the public in the countries of Central, Eastern andsouth-eastern Europe were it was still not too late, to prevent seriousmistakes of Poland's privatisation to be repeated.Their main warnings can be resumed as follows: 1. Public discussions about privatisation must begin on time, before thegovernment pushes the laws harmful for the future of the nation through theParliament. Public was the accomplice of the criminal sell out in Poland byaccepting without questioning domestic and foreign propaganda, that allaccomplishments of the nation after Second World War were worthless and thattherefore "our assets are worth nothing" and "foreign is better". Using thispropaganda the members of the ruling coalition (composed mainly of themembers of once rebellious "Solidarnosc", but also of former communistnomenclature) have deceived the nation that inherited assets were worthlessand that only foreign capital can restore their value.2. The politics of International Monetary Fund, World Bank and European Bankare harmful because they request the elimination of every sort of priorityand support to development of domestic owners. Today 70% of industry and 90%of the mass media in Poland are in foreign hands, which present the worldrecord. Even though the economists from the countries that are militarilyorganised within NATO request complete opening of the economies of theformer "real socialist" countries, the share of transnational capital havingthe seat outside their homeland, does not exceed around 10%.3. The laws against corruption in administration, that soon became largerthan during the communist era in Poland due to its filling up with thefavourites of the new ruling coalition, were not immediately enacted andlater on were applied only against the political adversaries. This freed thehands of Polish bureaucracy and officials to rob public property under theircontrol. In the attempt to maximise private gain through serving to foreigninterests, they permitted the ruining of public enterprises in order tojustify ridiculously low selling prices. Entire book could be written onlegal and administrative tricks that were used for the reduction of tendervalue. Foreign investors were able to offer greater bribe than the domesticones. Government officials and bureaucrats received for the cheatingsell-outs the bonuses according to the rule "The lower price you helparrange, the bigger your 'commission'.". In this way they have "given awaythe 'goose that lays golden eggs' for the price of an egg". They have thusexposed both domestic and foreign Polish policy to the influence of alieninterests by the way of financial extortion. 4. Foreign investitors have manipulated the privatisation process throughtenders by eliminating real market competition. For example, in 1992international tobacco companies have on the basis of mutual agreementsucceeded to buy Polish plants worth hundreds of millions of dollars each,for only little fraction of their market value. Foreign investors have thanchanged the original production in accordance with their own business aimsinto one less healthy and directly harmful. Tobacco that was previouslyfermented in a natural way, so that many toxins would be eliminated fromPolish cigarettes, presently is prepared with chemicals and geneticallymodified tobacco, so that smokers would become more dependent, even thoughit is known that such procedure three times increases the mortality due tolungs' cancer.5. After buying industrial enterprises at a very low price, foreign allegedinvestors often used to close them down in order to eliminate competition towestern products or to change the use of
[CTRL] Does Dubya and Hilly worship ODIN/WOTAN ???
-Caveat Lector- We know that the worship of the Ancient Gods [the Asutra] is a concept which the farthest of far right have wholseale adopted - from born again celtic christians to the old dragons themselves, from adolph hitler to - or so it seems: Hillary Clinton and George W Bush - both recently photoed with the thumbs up FROM GRIMMS TEUTONIC MYTHOLOGY chapter 7 page 11 [1913] Wuotan, Wodan (Oðinn) (Page 11) Even a part of the human body was named after the god: the space between the thumb and the forefinger when stretched out, which the Greeks name licaj , was called in the Netherlands Woedensspanne, Woedenspanne, Woenslet. The thumb was sacred, and even worshipped as thumbkin and Pollux = pollex; Wodan was the god of play, and lucky men were said to have the game running on their thumb. We must await further disclosures about the name, its purport, and the superstition lying at the bottom of it (see Suppl.). I started with assuming that the worship of this divinity was common to all the Teutonic races, and foreign to none, just because we must recognise him as the most universal and the supreme one. Wuotan andrew hennessey A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] AUTISM ON RISE
-Caveat Lector- Hi, The primary cause of the rise of autism is well known in the research community, but concealed. Many private studies show an overwhelming connection to vaccines. No one in the medical mafia is going to say this, because the pharmaceutical companies which maximize their profits from persuading the American public to jab their infants 33 times before age 1, and annually thereafter, have a stranglehold on the dissemination of the information. Of course, they also fairly effectively strangle the public's awareness of homeopathy. I am a homeopath, and can assure you that autism's roots in vaccination is WIDELY known and discussed in our profession. Here are some websites for you to examine: http://osiris.sunderland.ac.uk/autism/vaccine.htm http://www.whale.to/vaccine/testimonies6.html http://www.alternativeparenting.com/health/autism_vaccines_part2.htm http://www.mercola.com/1999/apr/18/link_between_autism_and_vaccinations.htm Vaccination has one purpose: to enrich the medical establishment. In accomplishing this goal, it is blazingly successful. Hence, minor problems like the permanent harm it causes to the trusting, unsuspecting consumer or her children must be explained away. As a good American capitalist, wouldn't you agree? Jenny Decker - Original Message - From: Damian B. Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] AUTISM ON RISE -Caveat Lector- At 01:31 PM 5/12/01 -0400, Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- The Scientist 15[10]:16, May 14, 2001 RESEARCH Autism on the Rise The rate of autism is rising. The number of reported cases has increased 10-fold in the last few decades, from 1 in 2,500 in the 1970s to 1 in 250 in the 1990s. Is it my imagination, or is it the case that our usually know-it-all gubmint has no explanation and no clue as to what to do about this. I can report from first hand experience that the autism crisis is real and it is a crisis, and it is a much bigger deal than the so-called, but politically correct AIDS crisis. DBC A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NATO It's Time to Go
-Caveat Lector- So the USA is to police the world, Save Israel, and continue to ignore its own defenses? Lots of people would like to see the USA let down their guard - like they did that day in Dallas? You see what happens when Eternal Vigilence is just a slogan.. Under the Constitution of the United States of American our public servants MUST provide for the common defense..Remember Pearl Harbor while America Slept? Better spend a little time investigation this new EU Army that sounds like the goosesteps of the NAZI Party . for as Waco - there boots were made for walking all over US Are we to dig our own graves in advance? Saba U.S. fails to assure skeptical NATO Alliance gives measured response to U.S. missile defense plan U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell listens to delegates at the NATO Foreign Ministers meeting in Budapest on Tuesday. MSNBC NEWS SERVICES BUDAPEST, Hungary, May 29 U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell on Tuesday led Washington's offensive that aims to persuade skeptical NATO allies to accept U.S. missile defense plans. But Washington's top diplomat was unable to convince the alliance's policy-making body, which stopped far short of endorsing the Bush administration's national missile shield. A joint statement issued by the North Atlantic Council does not portray the possibility of missile attack as a common threat faced by allies, as the Bush administration had hoped. Powell had hoped to persuade skeptical NATO allies to be more supportive of U.S. missile defense plans. But, according to sources close to the process who spoke on the condition of anonymity, France and Germany resisted stronger language sought by Powell. 'CONSULTATIONS' WILL CONTINUE The draft statement said NATO allies welcome the consultations initiated by President Bush on the U.S. strategic review, including missile defense. We intend to pursue these consultations vigorously, and welcome the United States' assurance that the views of allies will be taken into account as it considers its plans further. The nuclear-armed planet MSNBC InteractiveClick here to see nuclear stockpiles around the world (requires Flash plugin) In a minor victory, Powell was able to persuade NATO foreign ministers to omit from the joint statement any mention of the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty. Last year's joint statement called the treaty the cornerstone of strategic stability. The Bush administration wants to scrap or heavily modify the treaty, which prohibits development of national missile defense systems. The statement was prepared for the North Atlantic Council, the alliance's top policy-making board, which is made up of foreign ministers of the 19 NATO nations. See our special report on Milosevic's reign of terror. BALKANS FEARS In addition to presenting U.S. views on missile defense, Powell also sought to assure allies that the United States would not pull its peacekeeping forces out of the Balkans, despite comments by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld suggesting the U.S. role in Bosnia was near an end. Tuesday's final statement said it was not advisable at this time to consider major restructuring or reductions in the peacekeeping force in Bosnia, other than a moderate reduction in overall troop level. The job is not yet completed, NATO Secretary-General Lord Robertson told reporters. U.S. officials had worked behind the scenes for a joint statement that would cite a common threat of missile attack in a section referring to the U.S. missile defense plan. That would be stronger than the phrase potential threat that was in a year-earlier statement. WEAKER OUTCOME But the United States failed to get the stronger language included. Instead, NATO allies promise to consider appropriate assessment of threats and address the full range of strategic issues affecting our common security, and the means to address them. In the statement, the allies pledge to continue substantive consultations in the alliance on these issues. German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer said it was important that no decisions be made on the missile defense issue until further consultations have occurred. A U.S. missile defense plan must add to our security and stability. It must not lead to another arms race, Fischer said. U.S. could buy Russia missiles At an opening session, NATO foreign ministers voiced concern about violence in Macedonia and indicated support for only modest cuts in the peacekeeping mission in Bosnia, said a NATO official who attended. The official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said the alliance is ready to support only trimming and minor adjustment in the Bosnian force. Other NATO sources have said they expect announcement of a cut of 10 percent to 15 percent in the peacekeeping force of 21,000, of which 3,300 are Americans.
[CTRL] Jews fabricate holy sites
-Caveat Lector- Hebrew U. professor: Jews fabricate holy sites By Melissa Radler http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2001/05/29/News/News.27070.html NEW YORK (May 29) - Jews fabricated the existence of holy sites in the West Bank after the Six Day War, said Hebrew University Prof. Moshe Maoz to New York Jewish leaders on Friday during a visit that was sponsored by the Israeli government. We invent all kinds of tombs in Palestinian-populated areas, said Maoz at a meeting with the Jewish Community Relations Council of New York, citing Joseph's Tomb, located in Nablus, which was destroyed by Palestinian rioters and rebuilt as a mosque in October 2000. Maoz added that world Jewry has overreacted to the desecration of the tomb, while failing to note that groups of all faiths, including the Moslem Public Affairs Council in the US, recognized the site as being holy to Jews and condemned its destruction. Sometimes I think Judaism is paganism, said Maoz, referring to holy sites in general. We sanctify stones and tombs instead of spirit. Maoz's visit to the US was sponsored by the Israeli consulate's office of academic affairs, which brought him over to discuss prospects for peace and coexistence in the Middle East. Following Maoz's speech, a consulate spokesman emphasized that speakers we bring over do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the Israeli government or the office of academic affairs in the US. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Learn the truth about Mideast (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Noboa: Learn the truth about Mideast San Antonio Express-News http://www.hearstnp.com/san_antonio/bea/news/stories/san/storypage.cfm?xla=saenxlb=1160xlc=242602xld=120 If we believe the U.S. media's portrayal of the Middle East conflict, then we already have identified the good guys and the terrorists. From local newspapers to Hollywood films, we recognize Israeli Jews as civilized, reasonable and democratic and Palestinians as terrorists. Now this simplistic scenario is beginning to unravel as we see images of stone-throwing Palestinian youths facing Israeli tanks and supersonic F-16 jets bombing neighborhood factories. So to ensure continued unconditional U.S. support, Israeli Prime Minster Ariel Sharon recently called for a total cease-fire. But after rejecting a key recommendation of the Mitchell commission a freeze on Israeli settlements Sharon's offer is a deceitful ploy. The Palestinians would be foolish to accept more settlement expansion, which further reduces what little territory they have left. Moreover, these settlements are in violation of U.N. resolutions and international law. There are two kinds of terrorism in this ancient, contested land: The terror of occupation and the terror of desperation. Suicide bombers are desperate, but they are not simpletons propagandized into martyrdom. Their family members, friends and neighbors have been killed, tortured, maimed or made homeless by Israeli authorities. The media will call them cowards, but what would any red-blooded American do if invaders were to occupy and terrorize our country? The terror of desperation is born out of brutality, deprivation and powerlessness; it is sporadic, indiscriminate and often counterproductive. The media would have us believe Israel is only responding to terrorism, but this belies the historical realities of the terror of occupation. It wasn't the Palestinians but Zionist extremists who introduced terrorism into the Holy Land. In the 1920s, they placed bombs in Arab marketplaces to terrorize civilians. It was Zionist terrorism that, after two decades, drove the British out of Palestine to establish a Jewish state. With the establishment of Israel, Palestinians became aliens in their own land. Ruled by military edict, they were denied freedom of movement, equal education and rights to own land. In fact, 78 percent of what historically had been Arab Palestine became Israeli. Today, Palestinians are fighting just to recover the West Bank and Gaza, 22 percent of historic Palestine. Yet Israel controls about half these territories. The terror of Israeli occupation is akin to slow strangulation houses are demolished, orchards destroyed, roads blockaded and water and power manipulated. Most of all, the terror of occupation is unforgivingly violent. A disproportionate amount of military aggression will be used against protesters, stone-throwers bystanders and even security police. Local physicians long ago determined that most of the stone-throwing youth and children who were killed had been shot in the head or upper body. This shoot-to-kill extends to Palestinian leaders, with Israeli missiles acting as judge, jury and prosecutor. As many predicted, the violence has escalated dramatically since the election of Sharon. His election was hailed by major pro-Israel Jewish organizations. The American Jewish Congress noted, He is widely recognized as one of Israel's greatest military heroes. Sharon does have a quite a record. In 1953, he led a commando squad that massacred 69 men, women and children in Qibbiya. After the 1976 war, he ordered the assassination of more than 100 Palestinian resistance leaders. In 1982, his forces allowed, if not encouraged, Israeli-supported Lebanese militia to murder more than 900 Palestinian refugees at Sabra and Shatila. Yet Sharon already has met twice with President Bush, while Yasser Arafat awaits his first invitation. Still, we are told Uncle Sam is the only unbiased broker for Middle East peace. That's certainly demonstrated by U.S. aid to Israel, which including military support from 1949 through 2001 exceeds $90 billion. Moreover, our Mideast policy has long been dictated by Israel's powerful lobby, as documented by former Congressman Paul Findley in his book, They Dare To Speak Out. Neither Israel nor Uncle Sam would permit an international peace-keeping force or international observers, because they wouldn't be fair to Israel. Perhaps they know that for decades Israel has violated numerous U.N. resolutions by denying basic human rights to Palestinians. And then we wonder why our allies voted us off the U.N. Human Rights Commission. I urge Americans to take off their media blinders, check out other sources of information, such as the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (www. washington-report.org), and open their hearts and minds to the full story. Julio Noboa is an educator and free-lance writer. To message him, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CTRL] U Of Hartford Honors Scum
-Caveat Lector- University Of Hartford To Grant Israeli President Honorary Degree ibThe gap is not only in capabilities, but also moral and cultural,. Indeed, it must be the end of time when the scum's of earth are deluded by cheaply bought suits of honor. - Moshe Katsav/i/b RACISM BEING SUPPORTED AT THE UNIVERSITY OF HARTFORD MOSHE KATSAV SHOULD NOT BE HONORED Moshe Katsav has a long history of ADVOCATING BRUTAL FORCE TO CRUSH PALESTINIAN ASPIRATIONS [eliminateracism, bigotry and obsessive hatred of Palestinians]. As early as 1989, the Jerusalem Post reported Transport Minister Moshe Katsav yesterday put forward his prescription for ending the intifada [Palestinian uprising for Independence]: close the territories for three months, ban movement of Palestinian labourers to Israel, and bar the media from the areas while deploying troops massively so as to put an end to the Arab riots. (JP, May 11, 1989). As a Likud MK, Katsav said to the illegal Hebron settlers in 1996: The Likud has no intention of recognizing the Oslo accords, and will at any price prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state (The Jerusalem Post February 7, 1996). Katsav's most blatant racist remarks were are described in the following article which appeared in the Jerusalem Post on May 10. Note that his comments were made to a group of children. An immense gap exists between Israel and its enemies, President Moshe Katsav said today. The gap is not only in capabilities, but also moral and cultural, Katsav said. Katsav made his remarks at a Bar- and Bat-Mitzvah ceremony for 86 children whose fathers died while serving in the IDF, Army Radio reported. It seems to me that a few hundred meters from here there are people who not only do not identify with our continent or even planet Earth, rather they seem to be from another galaxy, a completely different world, Katsav said. The gap between them and us is immense, he added. (JP 5/10/01) The May 15 edition of Ha'aretz, Danny Rubinstein addressed some of Katsav's racist remarks explaining that it has become fashionable in Israeli media to label innocent Palestinians killed as mistakes while labeling Israelis killed as murdered and that this is precisely fed by such remarks as those of Katsav. A letter by Dr. Veronika Cohen to Ha'aretz published May 21 also is relevant. It stated: President Moshe Katsav recently asserted that Palestinians are so different from us Israelis that they cannot be conceived of as belonging to the same region or continent, indeed the same galaxy, to which we belongNever mind that this astonishing declaration of our moral superiority came the same week during which we murdered a four-month-old Palestinian baby For shame, Mr. President? Do you follow the news? If Israelis think like this about Katsav, why is the University of Hartford offering him an honorary degree? This is not to mention that Katsav represents a government that is widely condemned throughout the world for its record of Human rights violations. Amnesty International strongly condemned what it called the Israeli army's iron fist military tactics against Palestinian civilians. There is a pattern of gross human rights violations that may well amount to war crimes, according to AI's international research director, Claudio Cordone (Nov. 1, 2000). Investigations by Human Rights Watch, Physicians For Human Rights, the Israeli human rights group B'Tselem, and the UN High Commissioner on Human Rights have all contradicted the Israeli army assertions that they are showing restraint and have documented patterns of human rights violations by Israeli occupation authorities. These detailed reports are available online and refute the Israeli government lines. In the last seven months, the Israeli army has killed 500 and injured over 17,000 Palestinians. One third of the victims were under the age of 18. The Israeli army continues its policy of demolishing homes, collective punishment, uprooting trees, and siege of towns. Katsav continued to provide racist remarks to support these policies. Shame on the University of Hartford for honoring such a man. --- Please write to these folks to voice your concerns:. Hartford Courant [EMAIL PROTECTED] President Walter Harrison: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Provost Donna M. Randall: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vice President for External Relations W. Stephen Jeffrey: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dean of the Faculty Diane Prusank: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send copies of your letters to [EMAIL PROTECTED] There will be a public protest (initiated by the Progressive Student Alliance): Meet in Elizabeth Park, on the corner of Prospect and Asylum Streets in Hartford, at 10 am on Sunday, June 3rd. We will then march to the University to complain about their choice of this person for an honorary degree. For details write: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange
Re: [CTRL] Rush Is A CFR Member And A Con Artist
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: William Shannon Rush is a parrot of the High Cabal who spews out pseudo-conservative puke to pacify the middle-class to keep them from prying into the machinations of the High Cabal and its puppet rulers. Ditto heads are brain-dead and will be the first ones to suffer the pains of the New World Nightmare that will soon fall upon them with the weight of a trillion neutron stars. WAKE UP DITTO HEADS! I suggest that you do not listen to him - or buy a new radio since it appears your dial tuner no longer works. flw A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] No Lights At End of Tunnel?
-Caveat Lector- So in this item with regard to the crisis in California, it is said the problem is so complex nobody will understand it? Maybe that is what is wrong? Time to give them all the boot? Do not know anything about when a government steps in to nationalize a utility, but it seems like California is sinking and nobody throws a lifeline because nobody knows what the hell they are doing? The solution is really very simple - services lag behind the need and does not matter why, but how to catch up before the lights go out and the summer heat causes much more serious problems? From what I have read of Colonel Tom Beardon and a new venture by unknown parties forming Tesla Electric - we could have so much free energy in this country no need to gouge the public anymore. All utilities - need government control before Clinton goes into his 8 million dollar a year job as investment broker - for you see this trashy element is stealing our natural resources and gouging the public is just now beginning.. No wonder people don't want to give up their guns...wish I had a cannon. Throw the bums out if they are so stupid they do not understand these simple problems. They live truly in the dark ages and at this rate, will soon have revival? Saba Davis defeated on Edison bailout plan NBC4.TV Despite months of negotiations, Gov. Gray Davis' plan to save Southern California Edison, is effectively dead in the state Legislature, leaders of both houses agree, it was reported today. Not only has Davis failed to garner support for his more than $3 billion plan to keep one of California's largest utilities out of bankruptcy in part by having the state buy its transmission lines but follow-up efforts by leading lawmakers to fashion an alternative are also falling flat, the Los Angeles Times reported. Any alternative proposal to bail out Edison will probably have to be approved on a party-line vote by Democrats, the newspaper reported. The reasons are complex, according to legislators working to close the Edison deal, but ultimately come down to simple politics partisan response in the state Capitol to the energy crisis. The stakes are high, because restoring Edison financially and requiring the utility to temporarily sell power at lower prices are cornerstones of Davis' plan to get the state out of the business of buying electricity, the Times reported. But leaders in the Legislature say Davis' approach has few backers. I don't think the governor's plan has support in either party in either house, Assembly Speaker Bob Hertzberg, D-Sherman Oaks, told the Times. The issue is whether we can come up with something else, and I think we can. Since January, California authorized more than $7 billion in taxpayer money to buy power for private utilities in order to avoid mass blackouts. It is a perilous fiscal situation that has drained the state budget and led to downgrades of the state's credit rating on Wall Street, the newspaper reported. Lawmakers are wary of making an even greater blunder than they did in 1996, when they unanimously approved what is now widely considered to be a botched scheme to deregulate electricity in California. In both the Assembly and Senate, most Democrats and Republicans are convinced there is no way for them to save Edison without appearing to sanction a huge bailout, the newspaper reported. Legislators want to get something of value in return from Edison high-voltage transmission lines, hydroelectric power plants or guarantees that the utility will boost energy supplies but are sharply split on what is best, the Times reported. A core element of all Edison rescue programs being considered is a proposal to use a chunk of customers' monthly electric bills to repay the utility's huge debt, a solution many election-conscious legislators find as appetizing as a suicide pill, the newspaper reported. The deal only requires a majority vote, but without two-thirds approval it would be wide open to an initiative challenge a prospect that frightens politicians. Consumer activists have already threatened to strike back with a referendum next year, when Davis and lawmakers will be seeking re-election, the newspaper reported. Democrats, who hold majorities in both houses, cannot agree on how to save Edison or whether it is even proper for government to do so. Some say the state would be better off letting Edison follow Pacific Gas Electric Co. into U.S. Bankruptcy Court. After PGE filed for protection from creditors in Bankruptcy Court last month, and massive blackouts failed to materialize, legislative momentum to save Edison from a similar fate all but vanished, the Times reported. MSNBC is optimized for: Microsoft Internet Explorer Windows Media Player MSNBC Terms, Conditions and Privacy © 2001 Cover | News | Business | Sports | Local | Health | Technology | Living Travel TV News | Opinions | Weather | Comics | Information Center | Help | News Tools
[CTRL] Clinton Got Frisky With Teenage Girl on Oslo Tour
http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2001/5/27/94414 Clinton Got Frisky With Teenage Girl on Oslo Tour While on a speaking tour of Scandanavia two weeks ago, disgraced ex-president Bill Clinton engaged in suggestive behavior with an attractive Norwegian teenage girl, embracing her while witnesses looked on and hinting he'd like to have sex. In a gesture of hospitality, the 19-year-old coed had presented Clinton with a tulip, at which point he reportedly responded by putting his arms around her. But then the sex-addicted former leader told the girl he'd like to do more. You're too beautiful to only get a hug, Clinton blurted out, in an episode reported in today's London Sunday Times. Clinton made the unpresidential comment to the teenager at an Oslo TGI Fridays while out on the town with a group of college students. The incident has prompted concerns that the former president, who was impeached after his sexual relationship with Monica Lewinsky came to light, has resumed his old habit of seeking sex from young women. Anybody who thinks he has changed is fooling himself, observed British columnist Andrew Sullivan, who first reported the ex-president's encounter with the Oslo teen. Clinton is once again a sex scandal waiting to happen, Sullivan added. And the scariest thing is that he barely knows it. If Sullivan's prediction pans out, it could severely impact the political career of his wife, New York Senator Hillary Clinton, who has apparently done nothing to curb her husband's wayward behavior. At 22, Lewinsky herself was just barely out of her teens when Clinton ushered her into the Oval Office for sessions of oral sex. But stories of Clinton's sexcapades with young and even underage woman are legion in Arkansas. During the Paula Jones case, in which he was accused of exposing himself to a then-24-year-old state employee, several women who were just high school students when they met then-Governor Clinton told investigators of being groped and fondled during random encounters, with at least one reportedly claiming that Clinton had seduced her. None were willing to go public with their accounts. But according to Jane Parks, who was landlord to Clinton's brother Roger in the mid-1980s, high school girls -- some under the age of consent -- were regular guests at sex and drug parties that the governor himself regularly attended. NewsMax.com Inside Cover Story.url
[CTRL] The Diary of Sana' Amr
-Caveat Lector- What About the Palestinians, ABC? By Middle East News Online Editorial by Ramzy Baroud http://www.middleeastwire.com/newswire/stories/20010528_meno.shtml The next morning following the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982, members of the powerful Israeli lobby, AIPAC showered congressmen with pictorial books about the Holocaust as they were on their way to an urgent session. But why would the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) justify Israel's deadly invasion of Lebanon which caused the death of tens of thousands by stressing the suffering of the Jews in a completely different political setting and historical era? The answer to such a question is evident, as the goal has always been to manipulate the suffering of the Jews to justify the killing of Palestinians. Unfortunately, such a practice has proven fruitful. It may be difficult to understand, as Arabs are neither German nor Nazi. Moreover, the political scenario is entirely different as Israel has been the one playing the Nazi role, Israeli leaders as Hitler, and Palestinians as the victims of Hitler. The answer is perplexing. For decades Israel has succeeded, through the use of the western media, in presenting itself to the world as the victim, not the aggressor, and it's unfriendly Arab neighbors are similar to the Jews' unfriendly European neighbors in the past. It might be shocking to learn that Palestinians make the parallel between Nazi practices and Israel almost every day, in their chants, in the graffiti on their walls, in their media .. That parallel was not an intellectual transgression in history, but a very well founded argument, as the Jewish racial supremacy which the Jewish State manifests is not much different from the purity of the Arian race Hitler once offered. In fact, Zionism, the ideology on which Israel was founded was recognized by the United Nations as a racist philosophy until United States' pressure managed to remove the indicting resolution. In the same manner, AIPAC used it's Holocaust argument in the past to justify Israel's genocide of Palestinians, Lebanese and Arabs throughout the years, American media is currently intensifying it's propaganda war. The Holocaust Industry has been in full use by the American television network. ABC in recent days aired the movie Anne Frank which narrates the story of a Jewish girl who hides with her family for over two years in German-occupied Amsterdam, hoping to flee the Nazi's wrath. The tragic story ends with Anne's death after contracting a fatal disease weeks before the concentration camps, which hosted millions of people throughout Europe, were dismantled. But why Anne Frank now, in a time when Israel is slaughtering Palestinians every day using American-made hi-tech weapons and F-16 warplanes? On a political level, one can conclude that international condemnation of Israel's war crimes against Palestinians is an increasingly worrisome notion that is quickly eroding the myth that Israel is the victim (although it has nuclear weapons) and Palestinians are the oppressors (although they rely mainly on rock throwing in their resistance.) Israel has already crossed every boundary that distinguishes a peaceful person from a cruel and barbaric criminal. The real tragedy is seeing ABC, a presumably respected American broadcasting company taking part in this manipulative strategy. Anne Frank and any other child in this world, whether Jew or non-Jew deserves to be remembered for the suffering he or she has endured. But commemorating Anne Frank who died from typhus 60 years ago and failing to acknowledge the pain of Palestinian children who were murdered in cold blood by Israeli soldiers in the last a few months is the real cruelty, needless to say hypocrisy. According to unconfirmed stories, Anne Frank's family hid for two years to escape the Nazi's punishment. But confirmed reports tell us that 2 million Palestinians have been living like hostages under Israel's military siege for eight months, and off-and-on for 34 years. Where are ABC's talented directors, actors and million dollar productions to depict the Palestinian suffering which takes place every day? Meanwhile, a 13-year-old Palestinian girl from the village of Dora, near Hebron was arrested by Israeli forces on February 28, 2001. Human rights reports say that Sana' Amr is being held in the worst conditions and is being treated very poorly while interrogated in her cell. Israel so far has failed to file any charges against the child, whose family knows nothing of her fate. Would ABC, which persistently points at Palestinians as an equal partner in the ongoing violence report about Sana'? Will the Palestinian child's family be interviewed? Or will her diary be reviewed for a possible story for a future movie? Inserting more and more Holocaust stories and documentaries throughout the American media while using words such as terrorists and mobs to describe Palestinian youth, will
[CTRL] DAN MEADOR ON THE IRS THE BAPTIST TEMPLE
-Caveat Lector- (Continued from part Vd) Timeline of Treason IN THEIR OWN WORDS...70s ptVe 1.DAN MEADOR ON THE IRS THE BAPTIST TEMPLE 2.HOW KLINTON AIDED RED CHINA'S PLANS- AGAINST US! 3.CHANGING FACE OF MEDICINE 4.UN THE PLO can be read at: The Joshua Report http://members.spree.com/education/2302410/ -- Michael The Outlawlady The Joshua Report http://members.spree.com/education/2302410/ If One Forgets The Past, He Will Not Be Prepared For The Future A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Misconduct, Corruption by U.S. Police Mar Bosnia Mission
-Caveat Lector- radman says: dyncorp again... === Misconduct, Corruption by U.S. Police Mar Bosnia Mission U.N., Europeans Query Push To Bring In More Officers By Colum Lynch Special to The Washington Post Tuesday, May 29, 2001; Page A01 UNITED NATIONS -- In the five years since international police officers were sent to Bosnia to help restore law and order, the U.N. police mission there has faced numerous charges of misconduct, corruption and sexual impropriety. But in virtually every case, the allegations have been hushed up by sending officers home, often without a full investigation, according to internal U.N. reports and interviews with U.S. and European officials. The troubles of the U.N. police mission in Bosnia have important consequences for the Bush administration. Eager to scale back military commitments, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld is pushing to reduce the 3,350 American soldiers on peacekeeping duty in Bosnia and replace them with civilian police. But some U.N. and European officials question the wisdom of shifting responsibility onto the international police force without first addressing its flaws, including low recruitment standards, a hazy command structure and the ability of individual officers to act with near impunity. Here we are, international police officers hoping to demonstrate and impress the locals with democratic policing and high moral values, and we're actually presenting them with one or two people who ought to be investigated and locked up, said Richard Monk, a top British police officer who served as the U.N. police commissioner in 1997. Among the 1,832 U.N. police in Bosnia are 161 officers from the United States. Although the record of the U.S. contingent is no worse than others, senior American officials acknowledge serious problems in selecting and training U.S. police officers to serve in Bosnia. That job has been given to a private, Texas-based corporation, DynCorp Technical Services, under an exclusive, $15 million annual contract with the State Department. In the past year alone, at least three American policemen were removed from the Bosnian mission for sexual misconduct and exceeding their authority, according to U.N. officials. In prior cases, several other U.S. officers had been forced to resign under suspicion of committing statutory rape, abetting prostitution and accepting valuable gifts from Bosnian officials. Yet none was prosecuted. The most serious punishment imposed on an American officer was dismissal and the loss of a $4,600 bonus. Asked about the allegations, DynCorp issued a statement voicing disappointment that the misconduct of a few individuals has cast a shadow on the more than 2,000 police monitors who have helped to achieve the U.N. mission to rebuild these nations. Upon learning of the allegations from U.N. officials, we acted swiftly and responsibly, terminating and repatriating the individuals involved, the company said but refuses to disclose how many U.S. officers have been sent home. International police have diplomatic immunity from prosecution in Bosnia, and unless their governments waive that immunity, the most severe punishment the United Nations can impose on renegade officers is to send them home. Thomas Miller, the U.S. ambassador in Bosnia, conceded that in a race to find American police willing to serve abroad, the U.S. contingent accepted some officers who were unfit to serve on the International Police Task Force, or IPTF. In terms of the quality of U.S. IPTF folks, I have seen some really good ones, Miller said. And I've heard about some not so good ones. No, let's be honest, bad ones. American officials say the failings are due to inexperience in international policing and the absence of a national police force like France's Gendarmerie or Italy's Carabinieri. American participation in U.N. civilian police, or CivPol, missions has increased from about 50 American officers in Haiti in 1993 to about 880 serving today in U.N. missions in Bosnia, Kosovo and East Timor. President Bill Clinton issued a directive in February 2000 acknowledging that the current process used by our government to recruit, prepare, train and deploy civilian police officers to CivPol operations is not adequate. Last summer, the White House asked the FBI and police commissioners from major U.S. cities to provide a reserve of police officers who could be sent abroad to serve in U.N. missions. But the FBI and big city police departments demurred. They slammed the door on us, said a former Clinton administration official. Recruiting Difficulties When the U.N. mission in Bosnia began in 1996, DynCorp scoured U.S. police departments in search of bored or underpaid officers looking for a change of pace. Advertisements in police publications promised adventure in a distant land for as much as $100,000 a year. To meet the State Department's demand for police, the company hired many retired officers, including
[CTRL] Poll results on the Rev. Sharpton for President
-Caveat Lector- The Poughkeepsie, NY Journial ran a poll asking the readers to respond to the question: Do you think the Rev. Al Sharpton is a viable candidate for president? (The comments are those of the readers.) YES: 12. He's a perfect Democratic representative. He'd be no worse than what we've got now. He isn't afraid to stand up to anyone. He's tough and that's what we need. NO: 163 He's unfit for any public office. I wouldn't vote for him if he was running for city dog catcher. He isn't fit for anything but a jail term. I'd rather vote for Kermit the Frog. He's a big troublemaker and alienates white people. I wuld sooner truct the devil himself. The media must stop giving him free publicity. If he was to run against OJ, I'd vote for OJ. He's strictly entertainment. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Whom Will We Honor Memorial Day?
-Caveat Lector- Whom Will We Honor Memorial Day? by Howard Zinn, 1976 from the Zinn Reader Memorial Day will be celebrated ... by the usual betrayal of the dead, by the hypocritical patriotism of the politicians and contractors preparing for more wars, more graves to receive more flowers on future Memorial Days. The memory of the dead deserves a different dedication. To peace, to defiance of governments. In 1974, I was invited by Tom Winship, the editor of the Boston Globe, who had been bold enough in 1971 to print part of the top secret Pentagon Papers on the history of the Vietnam War, to write a bi-weekly column for the op-ed page of the newspaper. I did that for about a year and a half. The column below appeared June 2, 1976, in connection with that year's Memorial Day. After it appeared, my column was canceled. Memorial Day will be celebrated as usual, by high-speed collisions of automobiles and bodies strewn on highways and the sound of ambulance sirens throughout the land. It will also be celebrated by the display of flags, the sound of bugles and drums, by parades and speeches and unthinking applause. It will be celebrated by giant corporations, which make guns, bombs, fighter planes, aircraft carriers and an endless assortment of military junk and which await the $100 billion in contracts to be approved soon by Congress and the President. There was a young woman in New Hampshire who refused to allow her husband, killed in Vietnam, to be given a military burial. She rejected the hollow ceremony ordered by those who sent him and 50,000 others to their deaths. Her courage should be cherished on Memorial Day. There were the B52 pilots who refused to fly those last vicious raids of Nixon's and Kissinger's war. Have any of the great universities, so quick to give honorary degrees to God-knows-whom, thought to honor those men at this Commencement time, on this Memorial Day? No politician who voted funds for war, no business contractor for the military, no general who ordered young men into battle, no FBI man who spied on anti-war activities, should be invited to public ceremonies on this sacred day. Let the dead of past wars he honored. Let those who live pledge themselves never to embark on mass slaughter again. The shell had his number on it. The blood ran into the ground...Where his chest ought to have been they pinned the Congressional Medal, the DSC, the Medaille Militaire, the Belgian Croix de Guerre, the Italian gold medal, The Vitutea Militara sent by Queen Marie of Rumania. All the Washingtonians brought flowers .. Woodrow Wilson brought a bouquet of poppies. Those are the concluding lines of John Dos Passos angry novel 1919. Let us honor him on Memorial Day. And also Thoreau, who went to jail to protest the Mexican War. And Mark Twain, who denounced our war against the Filipinos at the turn of the century. And I.F. Stone, who virtually alone among newspaper editors exposed the fraud and brutality of the Korean War. Let us honor Martin Luther King, who refused the enticements of the White House, and the cautions of associates, and thundered against the war in Vietnam. Memorial Day should be a day for putting flowers on graves and planting trees. Also, for destroying the weapons of death that endanger us more than they protect us, that waste our resources and threaten our children and grandchildren. On Memorial Day we should take note that, in the name of defense, our taxes have been used to spend a quarter of a billion dollars on a helicopter assault ship called the biggest floating lemon, which was accepted by the Navy although it had over 2,000 major defects at the time of its trial cruise. Meanwhile, there is such a shortage of housing that millions live in dilapidated sections of our cities and millions more are forced to pay high rents or high interest rates on their mortgages. There's 90 billion for the B1 bomber, but people don't have money to pay hospital bills. We must be practical, say those whose practicality has consisted of a war every generation. We mustn't deplete our defenses. Say those who have depleted our youth, stolen our resources. In the end, it is living people, not corpses, creative energy, not destructive rage, which are our only real defense, not just against other governments trying to kill us, but against our own, also trying to kill us. Let us not set out, this Memorial Day, on the same old drunken ride to death. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects
[CTRL] The Balkan Godfather (part 2)
The Balkan Godfather (part 2) Subotic has an official residence at Palmoticeva 82 in Zagreb At this very moment, several of the worlds great intelligence services are conducting parallel investigations into Croatian citizen, Stanko Subotic Cane, the European king of cigarette smuggling. According to certain estimates, Subotic is worth over 500 million DEM, making him definitely the wealthiest Croatian citizen. As Nacional has learned, the Croatian police are also investigating Subotic, born September 9, 1959 in Ub, Serbia. In his Croatian passport, he is listed as having a residence in Zagreb at Palmoticeva 82. We were not able to learn just how far that investigation has come, but in light of the activities in the police ministry, we are not certain that there is an overwhelming interest in Subotic there. What Nacional has uncovered is that the domestic police have not even managed to discover just how Subotic obtained a Croatian passport, even though Minister Lucin stated that the passport was issued on a recommendation by General Ljubo Cesic Rojs. Penics Approval Just what the connection is between Subotic and Rojs will probably never be uncovered. From the letter Nacional received from Subotics attorney, it is clear that the passport was approved in 1999 by the ministers discretion. Perhaps he would know the answer to the mystery connection between Subotic and Rojs. However, Penic is protected by parliamentary immunity, and therefore, cannot be interrogated. On Monday, May 21, Nacionals reporting team visited the address at Palmoticeva 82. However, they did not find the name Subotic on any of the doors in that building. Obviously, this was simply a fictitious address, or Subotic was registered as a tenant in one of the apartments. Incorrect Assessments It will not be easy for Milo Djukanovic in the next six months. To date, we have uncovered some 130 million DEM in foreign bank accounts which are either directly or indirectly connected to his name. The sources of that money are also connected to businessman Stanko Subotic, a Croatian citizen, with a registered residence in Zagreb, at Palmoticeva 82. There has also been confirmation of a connection between Stanko Subotic and Zoran Djindjic, which particularly intensified after Milosevics fall, when Djindjic was appointed Premier of Serbia. As far as we know, these two have been intensively working on a project to build a cigarette factory in Kragujevac. As a partner to Subotic, British American Tobacco (BAT) has also made an appearance. Djindjic is supposedly responsible for giving political support to the entire project. In the entire story, the most surprising behavior has come from the Croatian government, particularly from the Finance Ministry. To date, that ministry has not asked any questions as to where, to whom and how much Subotic, as a Croatian citizen, pays in taxes. These were the comments made for Nacional by a very influential foreign diplomat on Sunday May 20. That representative of one of the worlds greatest forces confirmed that according to their information, the article published in the last issue of Nacional was completely in agreement with the truth, and that our only errors were in the actual estimates of Subotics fortune. According to their knowledge, Stanko Subotic Cane, the main Balkan godfather, is worth much more than the 500 million DEM listed in the article. One high ranking official in the Washington State Department illustrated the situation in the following way: We let Djukanovic make $5 million, and now he wants hundreds of millions. Let him finance Montenegro now, instead of the United States. Connection with Djukanovic Nacionals article aroused great anxiety in both Stanko Subotic and Milo Djukanovic, who quickly sent letters to Nacionals editorial offices denying everything. Zoran Djindjic also gave a statement to the press: he also denied any involvement in any criminal activities, however, he admitted to being in very good relations with the honest businessman Subotic. Djindjic failed to mention
Re: [CTRL] Woman wins hypnotist case, A comparison of chronic pain patients
-Caveat Lector- Dear List, Info. about these two articles is below. Sincerely, Neil Brick These may be heavy for survivors of abuse to read. excerpt from : http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2-2001180257,00.html Woman wins hypnotist case - by Michael Horsnell - 5/26/01 - - A woman who claimed that she was turned into a suicidal zombie when a stage hypnotist reawakened the trauma of childhood sex abuse won her legal action for damages yesterdayThe judge found that Mrs Howarth was the victim of persistent childhood sexual abuse. Her behaviour in developing coping strategies and in keeping the matter secret from the world was entirely consistent with the behaviour of adults who had been abused as children. He was also satisfied that her deeply buried memories were rekindled when she was in a hypnotised state. A comparison of chronic pain patients and controls on traumatic events in childhood - Goldberg RT, Goldstein R - Disabil Rehab 2000 Nov 22(17:) 756-763 - Examined the incidence of traumatic events in childhood, such as sexual abuse and physical abuse, in individuals experiencing chronic pain. 92 outpatients (aged 20-62 yrs) with chronic pain completed questionnaires concerning sexual, physical, and verbal abuse in childhoodResults show that child abuse was reported in 54.4% of chronic pain Ss, compared with 21.4% of controls. Sexual abuse and verbal abuse were statistically significant predictors of being a member of the pain group. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Tennessee students pressured into religious services
-Caveat Lector- Tennessee students pressured into religious services -- Students at Union County High School in Tennessee are strongly encouraged to participate in religious revivals held during school hours, with non-participants complaining that they're ostracized and even penalized. (05/28/01) http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/document.asp?documentID=14004 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Disinformation.Com's Alex Burns Plagiarized Alex Constantine
Alex: You misunderstand, as usual. You have made a serious mistake. Think it over. Unintentional plagiarism? Sure, sure. That admission is a start, but I can PROVE that it was intentional. And it is only one example. BTW, if my conspiracy theories are found wanting by you, why are you plagiarizing ME? The first article I read authored by Alex Burns is a theft of my own copyright material. Again: who's your lawyer? I will serve Disinformation.Com with the suit and widen it up a little if you continue with this mindless charade. on 5/29/01 2:13 AM, Alex Burns at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tsk yourself. Woodpecker is found in many other books and sites apart from Psychic Dictatorship in the USA. Nice try. This is about what I expected. But you slipped up badly, though you may be too dim to understand what you have done. I'm not a mind reader, and you have made many remarks that you will have to retract. I had read PD well before I wrote the column, so any plagiarism from PD would have been unintentional (I cite all my sources on the Disinformation site). I'll be happy to amend a bibliographic reference to PD. That specific article has a different slant and information to your piece. BS. And no, I'm not a Temple of Set member (or cultist). You are a cultist. Is Aquino paying you to smear me? I simply began asking for any medical/forensic evidence you had to back up your campaign of the past several years. Which you've never provided to me. What on earth are you talking about. Why don't you read what I have actually posted it is ALL evidence. I have written very little about Aquino myself, and have relied almost exclusively upon solid evidence of his subterfuges. Do yet get it yet? How many times do I have to repeat this simple fact? Regards, Regards? Hypocrite. Alex Constantine -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- |d|i|s|i|n|f|o|r|m|a|t|i|o|n| http://www.disinfo.com/ Alex Burns - Editor -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
[CTRL] Fwd: ADL Says Tyranny Response Team Is Hate Group : Group Founded By Pro-Gu...
ADL Says Tyranny Response Team Is Hate Group Group Founded By Pro-Gun Jews Now Pro-Nazi Demented Israel Lobby Claims 5/29/01 11:06:56 AM LSN Staff New York, NY -- The Anti-Defamation Leagure of B'nai B'rith a semi-masonic organization claiming to oppose hate while lobbying for continued US support of the murder of Palestinians in Israel, is threatening to declare the Tyranny Response Team a hate organization for its role in breaking up Million Mom March event across the country this year. The ADL is a supporter and sponor of the Million Mom March, and provided significant funding and organizational support to the group's activities. According to the ADL, TRT members shouted Seig Heil and Mommy Uber Alles at the Mom's while giving Nazi salutes, in an attempt to claim that the Million Mom March and the ADL are neo-Nazi, hate-mongering organizations. From information gleaned from an article in the Denver Post, the ADL has decided that anyone who accuses them, or any other approved organization, of hate must themselves be a hatemonger. The ADL sees no contradiction in supporting the murder of small Arab children in Israel while demanding that Americans continually witchhunt after more and more elusive forms of racism. The Tyranny Response Team was founded by a Jewish gun-owner, Bob Glass, who believed that the Million Mom March and its supporters were engaged in national socialism, and that national socialism and communism were equivalent doctrines. It's protestors often use symbols, such as three M's in a swastika like form, to demean and attack their opponents. In Maryland, the Tyranny Response Team is led by a member of the local commission on hate violence, tasked with investigating and overseeing police investigation of racial and ethnically motivated incidents. That member recently returned from an ADL training camp, and told LSN he actively works to stop the ADL agenda from being codified into Maryland law. LSN will be running a special report soon on material the ADL has disseminated to government officials involved in anti-hate commissions, calling for a variety of centralized police state apparti, including agencies tasked with monitoring and controlling political dissidents. Libertarian Socialist News Post Office Box 12244 Silver Spring, MD 20908 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.libertariansocialist.com
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: ADL Says Tyranny Response Team Is Hate Group : Group Founded By Pro-Gu...
-Caveat Lector- So I accuse the ADL of being Hate Mongers; further I accuse them of taking bribe money for the President of the United States, William Jefferson Clinton. I accuse them also of putting people on their hate list for the FBI with whom they have been in collusion to destroy those who will fight to the death any attempt to take away our constitutinal rights. ADL - who and what are they? We know now they amount to a den of thieves, and their psuedo masonic order gives the Masons a bad name. Thought masonic orders were strintly benevolent fraternities, now a bunch of sleazy sies, spying on Americans. Saba ADL is a hate mongering vicious organization that should be investigated. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: [CTRL] AUTISM ON RISE
-Caveat Lector- I passed this on to a friend who is an autism researcher whom I happen to know personally, who wishes to remain anonymous for professional reasons. I got back this: Vaccination is almost surely a major contributing factor to the rising rate of autism, but it is not the sole cause of autism. To say so is to make your arguments easily rebutted, to wit: 1. Autism existed long before vaccines. 2. There are many people who have autism but have never been vaccinated. 3. Autism is a set of symptoms, not a single disorder with a single cause. There is no doubt among any researcher I know--and I know most of them-- that autism is a genetic disorder. But like some forms of breast cancer, it's a genetic disorder that involves inheriting a gene or combination of genes that puts a person at risk for, but that do not directly cause, the disease. Today's vaccines, which contain mercury and which are given before an infant's immune system is fully formed, are one very likely contributing factor. They are an environmental insult of the sort that could cause those genes to be expressed, causing the disorder. Research in the early 60s showed that atypical measles exposure (before age 6 mos., or measles and mumps at once) was a risk factor for autism. For an infant with an impaired immune system, which is the case for most persons with autism, the MMR shot would appear to deliver exactly that type of risky atypical exposure, even without the mercury-based preservative, which further depresses the immune system. I can't speak for the Medical Mafia, but there are quite a few mainstream researchers looking into the vaccine/mercury angle (see www.mindinstitute.org for info on one group at UC Davis Medical Center.) Even NIH was forced to admit last year that the connection deserved attention--although apparently not their funding. Other angles deserving of attention include organophosphate pesticides and heavy metals like lead and mercury from sources other than vaccines, among other environmental causes. As the saying in autism research circles goes, there's no such thing as a genetic epidemic. There absolutely, positively has to be one or more probably many environmental causes involved in the rising rates. Incidentally, the rise in cases of autism is hitting the third world particularly hard, and this story has gotten little play in the US or the UK. Rates in China, the Philippines, India, etc. are also skyrocketing. And guess who is now getting boatloads of perfectly good, free, mercury-containing vaccines that have been taken off the Western market? You guessed it... now THERE'S a conspiracy, not unlike the shipping of BSE-infested feed to Malaysia by Britain in the '90s, when the UK government ordered it taken off the local market. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] US Tries To Bribe Russia Into Accepting Star-Wars
http://www.allnews.ru/english/2001/05/28/pro/ Updated 28.05.2001 at 18:50:55 U.S. Wants To Buy Russia's Consent To Leave ABM Treaty The Bush administration is preparing an offer of arms and military equipments purchases as well as joint antimissile exercises, trying to get Russia's cooperation in leaving the 1972 Antiballistic Missile Treaty, The New York Times reported, quoting Administration representatives. It is expected that the Administration will propose to buy Russia's S-300 "surface-to-air" missiles that could be integrated into a defensive shield to be built over Russia and Europe in future years. In addition the USA is going to hold joint military exercises, to provide money for Russia's radar system and to exchange missiles-alarm data. Moreover, to do its proposal more winning the Bush administration may include some nonmilitary matters in it. The White House is already discussing with Russia economic aid or help in developing legal and commercial systems that would make Russia more attractive to Western investors. Some of these proposals have been communicated to Russian officials, but there is no indication of a response. The final cooperation programme will be presented during a meeting between President Bush and President Putin on June 16 in Slovenia. "We want to convince the Russians that to leave the 1972 ABM treaty to go on to new relationships is in their best interest", said Condoleezza Rice, President Bush's national security adviser. American analysts believe Mr. Bush extremely needs Russia's agreement to dispense with the ABM treaty not only to overcome strong objections of Western Europe but also to win Senate's cooperation, which is under Democratic control now. The American offer to cooperate with Moscow would almost certainly worry China that also strongly opposed Bush's planes on the National Missiles Defence System. White House officials say they are ready to consider the possibility to cooperate with Beijing too. At the same time Russia's Defence Minister Sergey Ivanov stated at a press conference on Monday that they received no offer from the United States to buy S-300 systems, Interfax news agency reported. The minister stressed in any case it would not solve the ABM treaty issue. "If the proposal is made, we will consider it at a meeting of the commission for military-technical cooperation, which is led by the Russian president. Basically we supply S-300 systems to many countries. Dozens of countries have adopted these military complexes," Ivanov said.
[CTRL] Former Director Opposes Star-Wars As Bad For America
http://newsinsider.cjb.net/ Star Wars II Endangers the American People By Dr. Robert M. Bowman Former director of "Star Wars" programs 29 May 2001 George W. Bush's new "Star Wars II" would seriously harm U.S. national security. Bush's plan abandons Clinton's failed attempt at a treaty-compliant National Missile Defense (NMD) and seeks a Reaganesque multilayer array of weapons aimed at intercepting Inter-Continental Ballistic Missiles (ICBMs) in their boost phase (shortly after launch). The Bush administration is already funding laser weapons in modified 747s, missile interceptors on Aegis cruisers, and laser battle stations in space (the heart of the "Star Wars" programs I directed under Presidents Ford and Carter). One common characteristic of all these boost-phase weapons is that they must get within about 300 miles of the ICBM launch point to do their job. If North Korea, Iraq, or Iran ever acquire the exotic technology required to build an ICBM, then they will certainly be able to shoot down a 747 orbiting over their territory, or sink a cruiser just off their coast, or destroy a laser satellite passing over their territory just 300 miles up. The technology for these tasks is trivial compared to that needed for a successful ICBM. Bush's proposed "Star Wars II" will thus be extremely vulnerable and would be destroyed by any attacker before he launches his missiles. "Star Wars" weapons will therefore be of no possible use to an innocent party sitting back waiting to be attacked. They are only of possible use to an aggressor with the element of surprise on his side. This is why such weapons were specifically outlawed by the ABM Treaty, a treaty which all the generals and admirals on my advisory board believe is still essential to our security, and one which "Star Wars II" will violate massively. Since it is still our policy (I hope) not to be the aggressor, "Star Wars II" would be useless against the non-existent ICBMs of the "states of concern." These weapons will also be useless against the far more real threat of nuclear terrorism. If a terrorist gets his hands on a nuclear bomb, he is not going to start a 20-year development program to build an ICBM. To use such a high-tech, costly, complex, visible, traceable means of delivery would be the height of stupidity. Instead, he would just float his nuke up the Potomac in a barge, fly it into Miami in a Cessna, smuggle it into San Francisco wrapped in a bale of marijuana, or deliver it to Oklahoma City in a Ryder rental truck. No "Star Wars II" weapon will do any good against a terrorist with a rental truck. But by increasing the apparent U.S. military superiority, these weapons will increase the fear and hatred of people in the developing nations toward our government and therefore increase the terrorist threat. "Star Wars II" will give the hawks in the Pentagon the offensive weapons they covet for "mastery of space" and for bombing earth from space. It will give the multinational corporations and banks absolute military superiority to back up their "gunboat diplomacy" around the world. It will line the pockets of weapons manufacturers for decades to come (at the expense of "optional" programs like health, education, social security, the environment, and our infrastructure). It will starve the defense budget of funds needed for getting soldiers off food stamps, supplying our peacekeepers in the field, and replacing worn-out systems that are actually useful to our national security. It will undo decades of progress on arms control with Russia. It will cause the Chinese to vastly increase the 20 nuclear weapons they now point at the United States. It will drive a wedge between us and many of our allies. It will enormously increase the chances that terrorists will use weapons of mass destruction (nuclear, chemical, or biological) against our people. Yet it will not do a single thing to protect us from these real non-missile threats. The American people have a right to be confused about this so-called "defense." They have been subjected to propaganda, distortions, and outright fraud. But here's the straight truth. Bush's new version of "Star Wars" -even if it works- will destroy our national security and endanger our people. Its proponents in government have been told this by the CIA, by the Pentagon, and by me. If they do not understand it by now, they are idiots. If they do, they are traitors. This is not a partisan issue. In 1984, members of Reagan's own Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) asked me to warn the Congress and the American people of this "military lunacy." I did. Republicans like Mark Hatfield and Jim Leach and Democrats like Sam Nunn and George Brown were instrumental in restoring sanity. In 2001, the lunacy has been resurrected and is surprisingly bipartisan. Some in both parties seem ready to sell out the ABM treaty and with it the American people. The patriots are those (in either party) with the courage to speak up and say, "George
Re: [CTRL] FW: [CTRL] AUTISM ON RISE
-Caveat Lector- I am still wondering why the USA government bought $45,000,000.00 worth of vaccine from UK? Cui Bono? Will someone quadruple the price and sell it over here? UK just got caught using a lot of obsolete outdated vaccines which some say, could cause a problem kids now have to be revaccinated. Now this new AIDS virus should be lovely; iimagine putting that crap in the blood of a beautiful child - teach your children to keep away from homosexuals and lesbians and other sources of disease. Might check some of this cocaine coming into the country for the sharing of needles may not be the only way, certain diseases are spread - the cocaine itself could be contaminated. There is nothing new under the sun; the information I had on this brain fever and autism causing vaccines dates back to 70 period, early 70 period - and was put out by the US Department of Health - they admitted some of this crap would cause brain swelling, etc. So those who polluted the blood of our children with these vaccines one shot after an other, look into their eyes and see the monsters for the God Almighty American Buck. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] dyncorp dude
-Caveat Lector- A friend of mine runs a listserv. A few days ago (s)he wrote me this note: == Just discovered a subscriber is on staff at this place: http://www.dynmeridian.com/ These are the guys outsourcing Colombia and Peru, I believe. I guess I have some interesting readers... To which I replied: Strike up a conversation. Learn what you can. Report back. I wait with bated breath. === Then today I got this: To: Nessie Cc: Subject:RE: dyncorp dude ness, The guy's name is David Isenberg and if you go to google.com, type in [David Isenberg + dyncorp] (without the brackets), the guy seems to be multiple people. I did some further digging and came up with five different email addresses for this one guy. They are: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] *His* initials D.I., are suspicious (as in ... well, you know). Are they known for a sense of humor? Anyway, I don't believe I want to mess with these guys. What do you think? Best. X = = So tell me, gang, what do yall think? Wanna mess with them? How? -- nessie A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skolnick- Reversal: US Senate White House
http://www.skolnicksreport.com Reversal US Senate White House? By Sherman H. Skolnick 5-28-1 An acute understanding of history and politics can be useful. Sometimes, however, others misunderstand. Starting about a year before the year 2000 Presidential Election, I repeatedly stated on numerous radio talk shows that, as to the then upcoming Election, that we most likely would NOT have an election in the usual manner. A flood of questions arose. "Will we have martial law, and if so, why?" And "Will the Election be called off?" Studying past events, such as the strange alleged "election" of 1876, some put their ear to the ground. Did they hear the thundering horde a long way off? Others, history-deaf, heard nothing. In January, 2001, at the time of the purported "Inauguration" of George W. Bush, I told a few confidants that I thought the results of the strange election of 2000 would be reversed. They angrily answered, "Reversed? How?" adding "The U.S. Constitution does not provide for such a thing." (Or does it?) With no quick rebuttal, I let the matter alone, for a while. By a U.S. Senator departing his political party, the Senate majority and agenda have been overturned. By what means, if any, would the "election" of what some prefer to call "Bushfraud" be reversed? Many of the possibilities are known to the American press-fakers who more or less stay silent. [1] Some call the "real president", not the resident or occupant of the White House, but the one who won the year 2000 popular vote by a 600,000 vote plurality but was not inaugurated. Why? Because the Electoral College vote, just like in 1876, was "stolen", some say, through Florida corruption. [See our related website stories as to Gore Vidal's book, "1876" reprinted in paperback form just before the year 2000 Election. Was he just a clever author or a CIA-linked puppet, on a vast orchestrated scheme?] Suppose it becomes widely publicized that the GOP reportedly corrrupted southern Florida DEMOCRATS to block a proper recount? [2] And, suppose it becomes widely publicized that, through treasonous use of Red Chinese funds laundered through the Chicago markets, that the Bush Family bought top Democrats in southern Florida, to "steal" the crucial Florida Electoral College vote? [Again, see our website items on comparison to the 1876 Election and Florida. By the way, the British aristocracy wants the turmoil, since they have tried repeatedly since the War of 1812, to destroy the U.S. Government and to try to revert this Continent and its people back to being subjects of British colonies. The Brits played a role in the political assassination of three U.S. Presidents who resisted British efforts to divide up this nation, Presidents Abraham Lincoln, James Garfield, and William McKinley. The Elder Bush and his sons, George W., Jeb, and Neil, have a joint account with the Queen of England through her private bank, Coutts Bank London. See the secret Federal Reserve wire transfer records, in our website series "Greenspan Aids and Bribes Bush". Together, they launder Hundreds of Billions of dollars from the illicit dope trafficking, weapons smuggling, and other contraband.] [3] Suppose it becomes widely understood that the five-judge majority on the U.S. Supreme Court that installed George W. Bush as White House resident, was corrupted? Thus bringing America's highest court as well as the alleged year 2000 "election" under the most severe cloud of suspicion and disgrace? Who notes that after the disastrous Dred Scott decision of 1856, ruling blacks are baggage and have no rights, that the high court went into several decades of never-never land. The Dred Scott decision is still on the books. Some hard-hearts currently on the court seem to be apologists for the infamous ruling. Justice Clarence Thomas, at the time of his ratification in 1991, came almost to the point of saying the decision is okay, based on his idea of "natural justice". As to the Gang of Five on the U.S. Supreme Court, see the book by a legendary American prosecutor, "The Betrayal of America-How the Supreme Court Undermined the Constitution And Chose Our President" by Vincent Bugliosi. Nation Books, N.Y., 2001. [4] And suppose White House "resident" Bush cannot deal with a severe economic downturn, a collapse of the markets and the so-called "U.S. Dollar"? So he goes bananas. Some psychiatrists already claim he has what they in their trade call a "nut-house face", typically that of someone who for years and years has used mind-altering drugs. [5] Further, consider that purported Vice President Dick Cheney, a sick man, is shown to be in treasonous business dealings in oil patch goods, through his firm Halliburton's foreign units, with Iraq. Remember, Cheney has been CEO of Halliburton. And that these treacherous dealings overlap the Bush Family private business partnership
[CTRL] Al Martin- Seafood Linguini,Exploding Hockey Pucks And Marshmallows
http://www.almartinraw.com/column18.html Seafood Linguini, Exploding Hockey Pucks and "Marshmallows" by Al Martin The Friendly Colonel reports this weekend's menu at the Redstone Arsenal was sautéed seafood linguini. He was sitting at a table next to a Chinese colonel who was actually attempting to eat his seafood linguini with chopsticks. It caused quite an alarm. The general in charge thought that someone had shot him because he had a big red spot on his white dress shirt. What happened was that the Friendly Colonel sat next to a group of eight guys who were supposed to be representatives of what is supposedly the most secret military unit in the United States, stationed at the Redstone Arsenal. The code name of this group is "Minus." Since he had been telling people that he was in the arms business, they were showing him their wristwatches. They were all wearing matching wristwatches, which were about half of the size of a hockey puck on a wrist strap. He said "you've never seen such technology in such a little case." It was supposed have 102 functions all in this one item. You can receive coded transmissions from satellite phones. As they were talking, the guy said he was getting an email from a submarine. You can also blow up a building from a distance of two miles with one of these items. The guy was half in the bag and he kept rambling on and on about all the functions that the Friendly Colonel was getting tired of hearing them all. It also has an omni-directional hypersensitive listening device. With this device, he says you can hear what someone is saying in the next room through a wall. He also said "This thing does everything except wipe your ass." So what happened is that a mechanism in this device suddenly made a sharp loud noise. Everybody who was there jumped because they didn't know what it was. The general, who was half in the bag, looked at the Chinese arms merchant who had the marinara sauce all over the front of his shirt - and he thought somebody had shot him. These guys from the "Minus" group drive around in what they themselves call a "tank-car." It's like nothing you can imagine. He said it looks like a cross between a Humvee and a black Cadillac limousine. It's armor-plated and has 20mm cannons inside and all sorts of other weapons. It also has a remote satellite dish that comes out of the back. The Minus Group is supposed to be some sort of ultra-secret ready-deployment team. They were kind of vague about what it is that they do, other than they kept talking about "state security" and the security of the state in the event of a crisis. It makes you wonder about the "security" of whose "state." The Friendly Colonel added that the announcer this week was a German officer who was dressed in the uniform of an American National Guard. He was parading around in an Alabama State National Guard uniform. Yet he was an officer of the German Army. He spoke very little English, so that nobody could understand what he was saying, except the other German guys who were there. He has said that you never know who anyone is. You see Russian guys wearing Israeli uniforms. You see Israelis wearing German uniforms. Everyone is wearing uniforms other than from their own country. And now all the Chinese, German and Russian arms dealers are becoming super-paranoid. They're looking for new routes to ship weapons because of the various ongoing investigations. The media's looking at it quietly, and it's making them nervous as hell. They've been switching more and more of the shipments from Department of Defense aircraft to civilian contract aircraft. The problem is the lifting capability of the civilian aircraft compared to the military aircraft. Now they're forced to dismantle equipment and they're complaining that it adds to the cost. But, of course, all they're complaining about is illegal. Illegal sales. Illegal weapons systems. Embargoed countries. All illegal. The only thing they're concerned about is the added cost, and nobody even mentions that everything is illegal. The Chinese guy that spilled the marinara sauce bought a quantity of these satellite-transmitting, exploding, wristwatch hockey puck devices. It doesn't have an exact name. It has some sort of designated code. It's like the Dick Tracy Watch of the 21st Century. The Friendly Colonel says he's been offered every type of weapon imaginable if he wants to broker it, yet he doesn't know anything that they're talking about. He pretends like he knows and he writes down all the code numbers on the back of napkins. If someone calls him up, he says, "Are you talking about code number such and such?" By the way, the Chinese arms merchant's name was "Mr. Murphy." That was the name on his nametag. And it's the name he's officially using in the United States. After the linguini dinner during which he slobbered
[CTRL] Cryptome On NSA Tapping Undersea Cables
http://cryptome.org/nsa-fibertap.htm 29 May 2001 Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 21:43:45 -0400 From: Dave Emery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Bellovin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NSA tapping undersea fibers? On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 04:08:34PM -0700, Steve Bellovin wrote: There's a long, fascinating article in the 23 May Wall Street Journal on how NSA is (allegedly) tapping undersea fiber optic cables. It's not clear that this is feasible, but the article claims that the USS Jimmy Carter, a nuclear-powered sub, is undergoing a $1 billion, five-year retrofit to equip it to do the taps. The article points out that even if they can tap the cable, there's another problem: making sense of that much data. I think the later argument is just as disengenuous as the late 60's Bell System officials who said exactly the same thing about the open unencrypted microwave radio telephone links of that era. Both those microwave links and the undersea fibers contain highly structured and organized information streams - individual voice channels, T1s, T3s, IP streams, wideband data circuits are not at all difficult to extract from the composite traffic and mapping the layout of the whole river of information is by no means overwhelmingly difficult (and might be aided by quiet help from the carriers or individual employees of the carriers). And the mapping tends to be pretty static over time, or at least to change in predictable ways. Finding and recording the most interesting circuits is by no means an insurmountable task - nor is filtering out most of the stuff that isn't interesting. The only hard problem is if the NSA insists on groveling through absolutely everything sent, but this is true of their problem in general these days and not just special to undersea cables. And clearly the right undersea cables contain an awful lot of useful stuff if you are the NSA... And given modern high capacity digital storage systems, handling low gigabytes a second is not that difficult either (most current undersea cable systems only transmit between 2.5 and 20 gigabits a second or so). IO bandwidths in large fast servers are of this order or more these days... The much more interesting problem that gets rather short shrift in the WSJ article is how the real time time critical intercepts get from a submarine hiding in stealth 1200 feet under the ocean to Fort Meade and then to policy makers. Some fraction of the traffic is still interesting after weeks or months when tapes or disks can be flown back to Fort Meade but much more of it is only useful if it is available within seconds or minutes during a crisis and not weeks or months later. Traditional microwave radio and satellite intercepts get back to Fort Meade or the RSOCs in milliseconds but as more and more traffic flows through cables that can only be tapped by hiding billion dollar nuclear submarines a lot of the timeliness of NSA operations goes away. The IVY BELLS tap technology exmplyed against Soviet analog undersea cables in the 70s allegedly involved hooking up a nuclear radioisotope powered pod with tape recorders in it that was left in place for almost a year between submarine visits to recover the tapes - this would be rather hard to do with the gigabytes per second flowing through a modern fiber cable - there is no (unclassified) recording technology with anything like the storage capacity to record everything or even a significant fraction of everything for that long a period in a form factor that would fit in a pod on the sea floor. According to published accounts, in the early Reagan years the intelligence community considered running their own fiber cable to the tap site on the Soviet analog cables to recover the data in real time - I imagine that the same thing has been considered as a solution to the current problem of recovering data from undersea fiber taps while it is still fresh enough to be useful. But in general it is a harder problem than actually tapping the cable or dealing with the rivers of data it contains. -- Dave Emery N1PRE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass. PGP fingerprint = 2047/4D7B08D1 DE 6E E1 CC 1F 1D 96 E2 5D 27 BD B0 24 88 C3 18
[CTRL] Virus Hoax Busters Mailing List (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Since there are those on this list who seem to have a problem grasping even the most basic of concepts regarding computer viruses, the following email list may be of interest to them June -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 12:24:51 -0700 Description: News and Discussion dedicated to dispelling the myths, identifying the hoaxes and warning you of the real viruses that exist in the world today. The purpose of list is to educate you on what is and isn't a virus, and to help you understand how a virus can and can't be spread. Only through education can we ever hope to stop the spread of Viruses, Chain Letters, Hoaxes, Urban Legends and Scams that plague the Internet today. This new list replaces the [EMAIL PROTECTED] The original Virus Hoax Busters List from Listbot is moving to Yahoo Groups. We help cut down on phony virus alerts, hoaxes, frauds, chain letters and urban legends. Discussion list for hoax fighters or for those interested in finding out which virus alerts are real and which are phony. Subscription Instructions: Join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/virushoaxbusters/join/ or via e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Owner/Host Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: [CTRL] AUTISM ON RISE
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 29 May 2001, Aleisha Saba wrote: Now this new AIDS virus should be lovely; iimagine putting that crap in the blood of a beautiful child - teach your children to keep away from homosexuals and lesbians and other sources of disease. Lebianism does NOT pose a disease risk, certainly as far as HIV is concerned. Neither does male homosexuality, in and of itself. What causes a potential health risk is promiscuous sexual behavior, whether homesexual or heterosexual. June Check out Alternative Kite radio: http://www.live365.com/stations/242153 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: [CTRL] AUTISM ON RISE
-Caveat Lector- What causes a potential health risk is promiscuous sexual behavior, whether homesexual or heterosexual. Wrong. What causes a potential health risk is the exchange of bodily fluids in cases where one participant is already infected. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DynCorp In Colombia: Outsourcing the Drug War
-Caveat Lector- CORPWATCH www.corpwatch.org May 23, 2001 DynCorp In Colombia: Outsourcing the Drug War By Jeremy Bigwood A U.S.-made Huey II military helicopter manned by foreigners wearing U.S. Army fatigues crash lands after being pockmarked by sustained guerrilla fire from the jungle below. Its crew members, one of them wounded, are surrounded by enemy guerrillas. Another three helicopters, this time carrying American crews, cut through the hot muggy sky. While two of them circle, firing machine-guns at hidden enemy, one swoops down alongside the downed Huey, and the Americans jump through the wash of the blades into the firefight on the ground, successfully rescuing the downed crew members. It could be a scene from a soon-to-be-released Hollywood blockbuster based on the war in Vietnam or El Salvador. But, it happened in Colombia last February, as part of the U.S. $1.3 billion intervention called Plan Colombia. The Americans who braved the bullets were members of an armed airmobile Search and Rescue Team. However, they were not part of the U.S. Armed Forces, but civilian employees of a private company called DynCorp, the new privateer mercenaries of a U.S. policy that now outsources its wars. Like the old English privateer pirates of the Caribbean five hundred years ago, sailing under no national flag - robbing and plundering Latin America's riches for the English Crown, Washington now employs hundreds of contract employees through U.S. corporations to carry out its policies in Colombia and other countries. In the old days, the British maintained that because the pirate ships did not fly the English flag, the Crown was not responsible for their actions. While the new privateers are underwritten through U.S. taxes, they are technically contract employees. Like the sixteenth century pirates, if they get caught in an embarrassing crime, or are killed, the U.S. government can deny responsibility for their actions. What's more only a select few in Congress know of their activities and their operations are not subject to public scrutiny, despite the fact that they are on the government payroll. It's very handy to have an outfit not part of the U.S. armed forces, obviously. If somebody gets killed or whatever, you can say it's not a member of the armed forces, former U.S. Ambassador to Colombia, Myles Frechette told reporters. Meanwhile, Former Drug Czar Barry McCaffrey recently described himself as an unabashed admirer of outsourcing. And there is an economic consideration too. Deploying high ranking active duty military officers to staff Colombian operations is far more costly than hiring retired officers working privately. A U.S. government official, who asked not to be named, said that there were several reasons that the U.S. government outsources projects: [Outsourcing] can be a flexible, cost-effective means of providing specific labor-intensive services on a short-term basis. Once we hire government workers, they are here forever. Some of these jobs are only short-term. Outsourcing belligerent activities on the part of the U.S. government is not new. It goes back to the Revolutionary War. Many such companies were involved in the Vietnam war, but they were only a minuscule presence compared to the major military effort by the U.S. there. What is new is that now contract employees are in the forefront of operations. In the Colombian war, private outsourced military men are out on the frontlines, while the real U.S. troops are hidden on bases as trainers. The exact number of contract employees in Colombia is not known. A recent State Department report states that there are only 200 U.S. military soldiers and about 170 American contractors working in Colombia. Historically, official counts of U.S. personnel and contractors tend to be underestimated in counter-insurgency operations. DynCorp and Plan Colombia By far the largest U.S. contractor company in Latin America is DynCorp, headquartered in Reston, Virginia near the CIA, and Pentagon. It hires and places many ex-military personnel, but is actually much more diverse and more high-tech than that. The company's website promotes it as an Internet Technologies corporation. DynCorp describes its areas of expertise as Information Systems, Information Technology/Outsourcing and Technical Services. Once you dig a little deeper, it becomes clear that this is no ordinary high-tech start up. According to its own literature, DynCorp's expertise spans more than five decades - encompassing events from the computer revolution, the Space Age, the Cold War and conflicts from Korea, Vietnam and Desert Storm. Through these times, we have dedicated ourselves to providing customers with the best and most educated solutions. Our IT experience has evolved with this ever-changing industry, and we continue to offer our clients solid solutions based on this evolution. DynCorp has worked with domestic and foreign government agencies to provide successful
Re: [CTRL] Learn the truth about Mideast (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- --- Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... what would any red-blooded American do if invaders were to occupy and terrorize our country? _ Nakano comments: Many red-blooded Americans would keep watching Who Wants to be a Millionaire and reruns of The Simpsons. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] How to spot Echelon listening stations
-Caveat Lector- How to spot Echelon listening stations http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,s2087713,00.html 16:12 Tuesday 29th May 2001 by Matt Loney The European Parliament's report into the network that snoops on civilian communications gives some useful clues on how to spot Echelon bases In its draft report into the Echelon communications interception network, the European Parliament provided a guide to identifying Echelon listening stations. Most Echelon stations are, according to rapporteur Gerhard Schmid, operated by the US National Security Agency (NSA) or, in the case of the UK, by the Air Force on behalf of the British GCHQ intelligence service. One such installation is RAF Menwith Hill, which is owned by the UK Ministry of Defence, and made available to the US Department of Defence as a communications facility. The station chief is provided by the NSA, and last summer there were 415 US military staff at RAF Menwith Hill, compared with just five UK military staff. The main difference between sites such as Menwith Hill and other installations operated by civilian bodies such as the Post Office, BT, broadcasters or research institutions are that the latter group are open to visitors -- at least by appointment. Interception stations are not. The other important differences lie in the type of antennae used and their size. A military site such as Menwith Hill will have various types of antennae: arrangements of tall rod antennae in a large-diameter circle (Wullenweber antennae), for example, are used for locating the direction of radio signals; circular arrangements of rhombic-shaped antennae (Pusher antennae) serve the same purpose; while omnidirectional antennae, which look like giant conventional TV antennae, are used to intercept non-directional radio signals. But only parabolic antennae are used to receive satellite signals. If the parabolic antennae are standing on an open site, it is possible to calculate which satellite is being received. Most often parabolic antennae are concealed under spherical white covers known as radomes: these protect the antennae, but also conceal which direction they are pointing in. If parabolic antennae or radomes are positioned on an intercepting station site, says Schmid in his report, one may be certain that they are receiving signals from satellites, though this does not prove what type of signals these are. Schmid goes on to single out military-run sites that are closed to the public and which have large parabolic antennae, with diameters of around 30 inches. As far as your rapporteur knows there is no military application for antennae of this size, he says. Consequently, if they are found on a site [run by the military with no public access], it may be concluded that civilian satellite communications are being intercepted on that site. The reason that the European Parliament's own raporteur had to work on clues such as the type and size of antennae is that there is still no official statement by the foreign intelligence services of the Echelon global interception system. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] QA: What you need to know about Echelon
-Caveat Lector- Tuesday, 29 May, 2001 QA: What you need to know about Echelon http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1357000/1357513.stm A European Parliament committee has advised computer users to encrypt all their e-mails if they want to avoid being spied on by the Echelon eavesdropping network. BBC News Online technology correspondent Mark Ward looks further. What is Echelon? Echelon is the name given to an international electronic eavesdropping network run by the intelligence organisations of the US, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. It is thought that within intelligence organisations the name Echelon only refers to the part of the network that intercepts satellite communications, but it has now become associated with the global tapping grid. The inter-governmental agreement that gave rise to Echelon dates back to 1947 when the nations that now operate it signed accords agreeing to share and swap intelligence data. The first Echelon network was built in 1971, but it has regularly been updated since then. The US National Security Agency (NSA) is thought to be the driving force behind the network. Civil rights groups who monitor Echelon say it can be used to intercept almost any electronic communication, be it a phone conversation, mobile phone call, e-mail message, fax transmission, net browsing history, or satellite transmission. The wildest estimates of its capabilities report that it can sift through up to 90% of all internet traffic. How does it work? Echelon is not thought to be a real-time tapping network. Instead it captures all the traffic it can and then sifts through it for keywords or anything the intelligence services deem to be suspicious. The network can apparently capture data in several ways. It uses terrestrial radio antennae that intercept satellite transmissions, and is also thought to have its own fleet of satellites that dip into transmissions between cities. It also has many sites around the world that tap into communications conducted via wires. Sniffing devices are thought to have been installed in key internet routing centres to catch addressing information from the packets of data passing through. Data beamed along fibre-optic networks is not thought to be safe either. The NSA has reportedly developed devices that can tap optical undersea cables. These deep water cables have replaced satellites as the main way that data travels between continents. One cable can carry tens of thousands of phone calls at once. One fibre-tap was discovered in 1982, but many others are thought to be in existence. The recently published European Parliament report on Echelon played down some of the wilder claims for the network's eavesdropping abilities and said it can tap a limited proportion of net traffic, radio communications and cable transmissions. What can we do to protect ourselves? The sheer volume of data that Echelon has to sift through can help you hide. If you really want to stay anonymous use only payphones or buy a pre-pay mobile phone that doesn't require you to give an address when you buy it. Consider changing to a net service provider that you can use anonymously, and does not assign you a fixed net address. You can use encryption software to protect your e-mail messages, but as most messages are not protected this might make it a target for the security services. It is likely that the intelligence agencies can crack open most commercially available encryption software. Even if they can't, the many holes and security bugs found in most software packages render them much easier to circumvent. Echelon could be defeated by the ubiquitous network technologies that are currently being developed. One reason that phone calls are easy to tap is because they directly link two people. However the rise of the net radically changes the way that data is packaged up and sent. Over the net, and more so with future phone networks, packets of data take a circuitous route to their destination. The proliferation of these networks will make it harder and harder for security forces to tap all of a data stream. What does it look for? Beyond the network of radio antenna, fleets of satellites and wiretaps, Echelon is thought to use a large computer network to sift through the vast pool of data it constantly collects. This computer system looks for key words, phrases, addresses and names. This helps the intelligence agencies build up a picture of the communication and contact networks of people it deems suspicious or requiring watching. Echelon was originally developed to help spies keep watch on the intelligence agencies and agents of opposing powers. With the end of the Cold War the focus has changed from espionage to surveillance of terrorists, organised crime, sensitive diplomatic negotiations such as treaty agreements and domestic political groups deemed to be a threat. Why don't we know about it? It is a secret network, and governments are very
[CTRL] AIDS/HIV THE BIG SECRET
AIDS/HIV THE BIG SECRET In africa - the dead are piling up - AIDS has smitten an entire continent - so whats the source of this problem - it isn't as though all of africa had gone gay. We know that we can catch AIDS from old needles - that it is rugged enough to survive in old blood in external conditions on our streets - and we get a jag - and thats that ... So to africa - africa not being full of heroine addicts has a much bigger needle problem - the flying kind - for it is entirely possible that AIDS/HIV is TRANSMITTED by MOSQUITO and BedBug Mosquitos are flying needles, horseflies, bedbugs - all extract and share fluid/blood between victims. Of course we get 'scientists' saying impossible impossible - but what does common sense say if you can catch it from a syringe needle you can catch it from a blood parasite. If that were thought true though - wouldn't there be the biggest Exodus that africa had ever seen ?? and if that were going to happen - do you think 'scientists' are going to identify Insects as Vectors for the disease. andrew hennessey HND Biology
Re: [CTRL] FW: [CTRL] AUTISM ON RISE
-Caveat Lector- Well what would you say the answer is June - give everyone a shot of green tea or should they practice maybe some ofo the teachings in the bible. There are numerous articles backing up AIDS and the spreading of AIDSfor instance in Africa the Africians tried to blame AIDS on truck drivers on the road, bringing the disease home to their wives. Me, think as you want; I know this - those that were bit by the needle are alledged to have lived and those today in modern times who are bit by the needle while sharing cocaine using same needle, die a horrendous death. If AIDS is a virus or if AIDS was a vaccine that caused immune system to fail - Americans have right to know. Per capital wise - wonder how it goes in New York and in Los Angeles.now, it is said horses can get these diseases - why? Yet in estrogen - it is made from horse serum and now it is said, the use of estrogen has causes numerous cases of cancer? Who do you believe? I choose to believe a reliable source and the sources I have check out most certainly were reliable...this item reflects the views of professional sources I do note intend to research this garbage further for I find even the discussion of same repugnant - but there is a duty of the parents to protect their children from such people who now want to invade the boy scouts by an organized effort and other groups for obvious reasons. And these people want a chance to harass and molest our children and young people? At least now that they are out of the closet, we know their objective and it is obovious to me, to send these people out - especillay among our young children i.e., this one sodomist just arrested with AIDS who molested these little chldren - they are more dangerous than any gun. Next thing June you will be supporting placing Lepers in our communities for lebrosy I understand is increasing - maybe Mother Theresa could deal with that crap, but I am not Saint material. Saba Jan. 31, 1997 Lesbians' Risk of HIV Infection May be Greater Than Perceived; Studies Highlight Need for More Lesbian Health Research Although perceived as being outside the groups that worry about AIDS, some lesbians may face a substantial risk of HIV infection because their behaviors do not follow the stereotypical views of this population, according to studies by researchers from UCLA and other institutions. While the risk of female-to-female transmission of HIV does appear to be small, judging lesbians' risk solely on this issue ignores evidence that some lesbians may use intravenous drugs and engage in sexual relations with men -- often young gay men -- according to the studies appearing in a special edition of the journal Women's Health. The good news is that our research suggests that, as generally believed, most lesbians do not face a high risk of HIV infection, said Susan Cochran, a UCLA public health epidemiologist and author of several of the studies in the special issue. However, there is a smaller group of lesbians, who tend to be young and still may be unsure about their sexuality, who engage in activities that may put them at risk. Understanding better the HIV infection risks of lesbians is important because it may lead to better prevention programs for high-risk groups and better treatment for lesbians who are infected, according to researchers. Issues relating to lesbians and HIV risk have not been addressed by research thus far, said Cochran, a professor at the UCLA School of Public Health. The problem for women in the community is that silence is not reassuring. Younger lesbian and bisexual women may be at greater risk for HIV infection than older lesbians and bisexual women because they may sexually experiment with men -- including young gay and bisexual men who are among those most at risk for HIV, according to a study headed by Cochran. Surveying more than 350 lesbians aged 18 to 25 from Los Angeles County, Cochran and her colleagues found that 26 percent reported sex with men in the prior year and 19 percent reported sex with a gay man in the prior three months, according to the study. One basic fact is that most lesbians have sex with men at some point in their lives, usually early in their lives when they may be unsure about their sexuality, Cochran said. The partners tend to be the people they socialize with, who are often young gay men. In another study that surveyed more than 8,500 lesbian and bisexual women in different parts of the country, Cochran found that lesbians who were most likely to report sex with a man in the past year are more likely to describe themselves as bisexual, be of a younger age, be less educated and not be in a lesbian relationship. In addition, researchers found that black lesbians are more likely to be heterosexually active. In this group, which included women of a wider age range, 12 percent reported heterosexual activity within the past year. The findings from Cochran's studies and others
[CTRL] Leprosy on Rise
-Caveat Lector- Not bad enough every minute 6 people under age 25 ge HIV. Now I imagine the UN will demand we take in 18,000 Lepors a year in USA - for there are cases reported in USA as well. We import how many people from India and Asia on yearly basis and now we must bring over 18,000 Africans yearly who must have AIDS...plus whatever else comes down the pike. What is worse most of these people will end up in Ghettos not in houses like you see in TV shows where it is made to appear all Americans are rich - and all blacks and homosexuals and lesbians welcomed with open hearts..into a community of love and kisses. So that is the way it is - but it is bad enough to have AIDS being spread daily while our TV now promotes homosexuality and lesbianism and soon, well imagine a homosexual who also has leprosy - without vision, people perish and is that the idea - we are to put on blinders and permit this to happen in this country? Will the day come when we will have to have our children vaccinated for leprosy? Cui Bono. Saba News Channels Diseases News : (Last Updated at : Tue Nov 14 16:04:44 IST 2000 )Home Experts say Leprosy on the rise in Asia Agra (Uttar Pradesh): Experts attending an international conference here feel that conditions are difficult for elimination of leprosy in Asia as transmission rates of the millenia-old scourge of humanity are extremely high and the causative organism, mycobacterium leprae, cannot be eradicated. Dr Denis Daumerie, World Health Organisation expert, said that it had become necessary to extend the deadline for elimination of leprosy by another five years till 2005 although 124 countries had met the target. Governments, Non-Governmental Organisations and health workers do not think in terms of eradication of leprosy since new cases will always be there. There have been many logistic hurdles, specially scarcity of funds, in elimination of leprosy as a public health problem in the last decade, he said. Dr Daumerie informed the Asian Leprosy Congress that Bihar, Orissa, Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal accounted for almost 60 per cent of the global leprosy burden due to control activities having been started late and the non-detection of a very large number of cases despite the campaign. Transmission increased due to late detection. MDT, Multi-Drug Therapy, alone was not enough and the implementation and strategy should be brought closer to the community, he said. Dr N S Dharmshaktu, Deputy Director General of Health Services in charge of Leprosy, said the hopes in 1983 at the time of launching NLEP the National Leprosy Elimination Programme of reducing prevalence in India to one per 10,000 population had been belied and it had increased to 5.2. Leprosy had been eliminated however in nine states and nearly in eight states but was still highly prevalent in Bihar, Orissa, MP, UP and West Bengal. The elimination work will continue for another three years with the just-materialised World Bank help of one million dollars for every 10,000 patients. (UNI) Diseases Highlights Blood needed by thalassaemic patients Experts say Leprosy on the rise in Asia Steps taken to control blindness in Himachal Pradesh NNEF to spread diabetes awareness Asia's first human fat tissue bank inaugurated Doctors leave for Chhattisgarh to combat malaria Hepatitis-B on the rise in Kerala villages Conference on new researches in abdominal diseases 7,00,000 people suffer from diabetes in Orissa Reduction of Benzene in petrol to bring down cancer Rotenone may cause Parkinson's disease Women who smoke likely to suffer from arthritis Brain fever claims 5 in Andhra Lumbago cured by eating wild ants Every minute 6 people under 25 yrs infected with HIV: UNICEF || Alternative Cures || Ask me || Beauty U || First Aid || || Fitness Exercise || Health Calculators || Help Line || Mental Health || Nutrition Diet || Parenting || || Sex Marriage || || Travel Related || Your Health || Health Recipes || || Feedback || Privacy Policy || Site Designed and developed by Design Expo Network Pvt. Ltd. Copyright © 2000 Sawaal Network. All rights reserved. This Site is for information purposes only. In respect to your symptoms or medical condition please refer to a practising physician. Due to rapid change in medical knowledge the site cannot be held responsible for any error. The site is also not responsible for the results obtained from the use of the available information on the site. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement
[CTRL] Leprosy Considered Health Hazard In USA Also
So from where does this Leprosy originate? Asia, Africa and Japan today wants to remove the stigma of being a Leper? Soon will we be told to embrace a Leper as we would a homosexual or lesbian and welcome them into our boy scouts, and Churches and swimming pools? Now maybe I seem heartless in this matter, but it is just that I consider a homosexual and a leper more dangerous than a loaded gun. A loaded gun you can lock up in a closet or safe - but today the UN and Japan in particular wants to loose the lepers upon the community. Now the bible has certain rules for lepers too; and believe me, leprosy and TB are both on the rise - in American suddenly TB is back.\ Americans worked long and hard to build a country which was to be safe, our shores were to be defended against the enemy - so it would seem the UN and Castro got their way at their secret meeting? Since this below article was written, Leprosy is said to be on the rise world wide and some of the cases reported in California, were Mexican in origin... But the trend is to take stigma away from Leprosy..are they kidding? Saba Leprosy looms as a public health threat, but LAC+USC clinic fights back by Jon Nalick Most people consider leprosy a scourge of Biblical times that only exists today, if anywhere, in third world countries with little access to modern medicines. But according to Thomas Rea, USC clinical professor of medicine, the disease remains a serious threat to public health worldwide, infecting more than half a million people each year, many of them in the United States. Leprosy, also known as Hansen's disease, is endemic to Texas, Louisiana and Hawaii as well as Mexico, the Caribbean, almost all of South America, Southern Europe, Africa, Asia and Australia, and most of the islands in the Pacific, he says. India, Indonesia and Myanmar account for 70 percent of all the cases in the world. Rea, who directs the Hansen's Disease Clinic at LAC+USC Medical Center, says the clinic currently tracks more than 500 cases of leprosy, with about 30 new case registrations each year in Los Angeles. Norman Levan, a former chief of dermatology and a USC professor emeritus, started the clinic in 1962 at the request of state and federal health officials who noted that the new cases were coming in from Mexico and that the closest treatment clinic was in San Francisco. The USC clinic remains one of only three in California; the other two are located in San Diego and Contra Costra counties. Even today, there's not a lot known about leprosy. We know it's caused by a bacterium, but the organisms have never been cultured. They grow only in intact animals, Rea says. It's also impossible to prove what the mode of transmission or what level of exposure is required to transmit it. Mycobacterium leprae, which causes the disease, is the only bacterium known to attack the peripheral nerves. The symptoms of the illness include: spots on the skin which can range from a few tiny blotches to hundreds of bumps, pain, tingling, loss of feeling, inflammation, weakness, and a loss of muscle control. If left untreated, the disease's progression can be quite serious. It's a common cause of blindness and outside the U.S. it's the leading cause of losing the use of your hands, he says. Within the U.S., arthritis is currently the most common cause of hand function loss. The disease typically strikes people in their 30s living in areas where leprosy is endemic. Men are twice as likely as women to contract the disease, but race is not a factor in susceptibility, Rea says. Generally, physicians throughout Southern California have a good awareness of the illness and are quick to recognize it. Still, because the disease is relatively rare here, there are times when patients go for as many as two years before receiving the correct diagnosis and beginning treatment at the clinic. Some people are naturally resistant to the illness and their bodies can destroy the infection without medical assistance. For those with no resistance, the illness ravages the skin and nerves and can cause crippling lesions and deformities. Most people, however, fall in the middle of the spectrum, where treatment with antibiotics not only can arrest the disease, but may cure it. Armauer G. Hansen discovered the bacterium that causes leprosy in 1873, and it was the first bacterium to be identified as causing disease in man. However, treatment for leprosy only appeared in the late 1940s with the introduction of the antibacterial drug dapsone, and its derivatives. Today, an effective multi-drug treatment includes dapsone, rifampin and clofazimine. Patients become unable to transmit the disease after taking only a few doses of medication so there is no need to quarantine them. Further, they can generally continue their normal work and other activities uninterrupted during treatment that may last several years. You treat the illness with multiple [antibiotic] drugs along the lines of
Re: [CTRL] QA: What you need to know about Echelon
-Caveat Lector- A European Parliament committee has advised computer users to encrypt all their e-mails if they want to avoid being spied on by the Echelon eavesdropping network. All that's going to get them is a van Eck machine across the street or D.I.R.T. on their HD. See: http://www.sfng.com/nessie/recycled.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DynCorp In Colombia: Outsourcing the Drug War
-Caveat Lector- Again, why are these people down there? Surely NO one believes any gov't really wants to win the drug war. If they really wanted it fixed it could have been fixed by now. But I don't believe that is the plan. Like the Vietnam war: we didn't win because it was never intended that we should win. The troops were not allowed to win. It was a farce. On Tue, 29 May 2001 16:25:11 -0700 radman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- CORPWATCH www.corpwatch.org May 23, 2001 DynCorp In Colombia: Outsourcing the Drug War By Jeremy Bigwood A U.S.-made Huey II military helicopter manned by foreigners wearing U.S. Army fatigues crash lands after being pockmarked by sustained guerrilla fire from the jungle below. Its crew members, one of them wounded, are surrounded by enemy guerrillas. Another three helicopters, this time carrying American crews, cut through the hot muggy sky. While two of them circle, firing machine-guns at hidden enemy, one swoops down alongside the downed Huey, and the Americans jump through the wash of the blades into the firefight on the ground, successfully rescuing the downed crew members. It could be a scene from a soon-to-be-released Hollywood blockbuster based on the war in Vietnam or El Salvador. But, it happened in Colombia last February, as part of the U.S. $1.3 billion intervention called Plan Colombia. The Americans who braved the bullets were members of an armed airmobile Search and Rescue Team. However, they were not part of the U.S. Armed Forces, but civilian employees of a private company called DynCorp, the new privateer mercenaries of a U.S. policy that now outsources its wars. Like the old English privateer pirates of the Caribbean five hundred years ago, sailing under no national flag - robbing and plundering Latin America's riches for the English Crown, Washington now employs hundreds of contract employees through U.S. corporations to carry out its policies in Colombia and other countries. In the old days, the British maintained that because the pirate ships did not fly the English flag, the Crown was not responsible for their actions. While the new privateers are underwritten through U.S. taxes, they are technically contract employees. Like the sixteenth century pirates, if they get caught in an embarrassing crime, or are killed, the U.S. government can deny responsibility for their actions. What's more only a select few in Congress know of their activities and their operations are not subject to public scrutiny, despite the fact that they are on the government payroll. It's very handy to have an outfit not part of the U.S. armed forces, obviously. If somebody gets killed or whatever, you can say it's not a member of the armed forces, former U.S. Ambassador to Colombia, Myles Frechette told reporters. Meanwhile, Former Drug Czar Barry McCaffrey recently described himself as an unabashed admirer of outsourcing. And there is an economic consideration too. Deploying high ranking active duty military officers to staff Colombian operations is far more costly than hiring retired officers working privately. A U.S. government official, who asked not to be named, said that there were several reasons that the U.S. government outsources projects: [Outsourcing] can be a flexible, cost-effective means of providing specific labor-intensive services on a short-term basis. Once we hire government workers, they are here forever. Some of these jobs are only short-term. Outsourcing belligerent activities on the part of the U.S. government is not new. It goes back to the Revolutionary War. Many such companies were involved in the Vietnam war, but they were only a minuscule presence compared to the major military effort by the U.S. there. What is new is that now contract employees are in the forefront of operations. In the Colombian war, private outsourced military men are out on the frontlines, while the real U.S. troops are hidden on bases as trainers. The exact number of contract employees in Colombia is not known. A recent State Department report states that there are only 200 U.S. military soldiers and about 170 American contractors working in Colombia. Historically, official counts of U.S. personnel and contractors tend to be underestimated in counter-insurgency operations. DynCorp and Plan Colombia By far the largest U.S. contractor company in Latin America is DynCorp, headquartered in Reston, Virginia near the CIA, and Pentagon. It hires and places many ex-military personnel, but is actually much more diverse and more high-tech than that. The company's website promotes it as an Internet Technologies corporation. DynCorp describes its areas of expertise as Information Systems, Information Technology/Outsourcing and Technical Services. Once you dig a little deeper, it becomes clear that this is no ordinary high-tech start up.
[CTRL] Fwd: [ourpolitics] CIA Admits To Controling US Media In 1960's - Imagine what they do NOW!
CIA Admits To Controlling US Media In 60's - Imagine What They Do NOWEspecially for those who still think America has a FREE PRESS which can be relied upon to bring us the TRUTH,READ THIS CIA DOCUMENT CAREFULLY...From Brasscheck[EMAIL PROTECTED]3-26-1Especially for those who still think America has a FREE PRESS which can berelied upon to bring us the TRUTH, READ THIS CIA DOCUMENT CAREFULLY...From Brasscheck [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3-26-1(From a recently declassified CIA propaganda plan for the Bay of Pigsinvasion)"Should military action be extended over a long period of time, the radioand leaflet operations previously described will be augmented by all theregular propaganda apparatus.This will include press placement throughout the hemisphere through CIAassets; through Miami exile contacts with Florida papers; and throughHeadquarters placement directly on international wire services . . . For inspite of all elaborate planning to reach the Cuban people and the rest ofthe world directly, it is the output of the established wire services whichmost effectively do the job.One report on United Press International, for example, will be repeated onnearly every radio station and most of the newspapers of the Caribbean area(AND THE U.S. -ed).Because of the importance of this, military planners should be aware ofHeadquarters capability of placing items directly on the wire servicetickers.During a period of fighting, especially in the first few days, we will be ina position to place specific messages and propaganda lines. This will beenormously important in influencing the actions of Cuban government leadersand stimulating sympathetic support of the patriotic rebellion from othercountries."Your free press at work. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor www. --- You are one of the freelance brainstormers helping the non-profit http://www.theEzine.org online portal and magazine facilitate an open political discussion between people from any region and with any political opinions --- To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[CTRL] THE LIGHTHOUSE
THE LIGHTHOUSE Enlightening Ideas for Public Policy... VOL. 3, ISSUE 21 May 29, 2001 Welcome to The Lighthouse, the e-mail newsletter of The Independent Institute, the non-politicized, public policy research organization http://www.independent.org. We provide you with updates of the Institute's current research publications, events and media programs. Do you know someone who would enjoy THE LIGHTHOUSE? Please forward this message to a friend. If they like it, they can add themselves to the list at http://www.independent.org/tii/lighthouse/Lighthouse.html. - IN THIS WEEK'S ISSUE: 1. The Federal Bureau of Incompetence 2. Integrating Immigrants 3. Happy Birthday, Patrick Henry - THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INCOMPETENCE The American people justifiably feel sickened by the FBI's mishandling of evidence in the Timothy McVeigh case, but they shouldn't be surprised, according to economist Bruce Benson, senior fellow at The Independent Institute. The FBI's failure to divulge reams of evidence to McVeigh's lawyers is just the latest bungle in a history stretching back to when President Theodore Roosevelt created its predecessor, the Bureau of Investigation, writes Benson in a new op-ed. Regrettably, blunders and cover-ups are not confined to the FBI. Despite cover-up attempts, similar scandals involving both state and local prosecutors and police show that misrepresentation and even falsification of forensic evidence occurs regularly. At the root of the systemic problems that plague public law-enforcement, Benson argues, is poor accountability. Yet strong accountability (and its offshoot, innovation) is the norm in the private sector. This, according to Benson, explains why governments are increasingly contracting with the private sector for police dispatch, investigative services, fingerprinting, crime labs, traffic control, data processing, prisoner transport and other traditional police functions. Between 1964 and 1997, in fact, the number of specialized security firms grew by more than 800 percent, while employment by these firms grew by almost 925 percent. This trend is explained by the simple fact that in police services, as in other services, customers tend to get what they pay for. For example: * In 1992, the 2,565 private railroad police employed by major railroads had a clearance rate (reported crimes cleared by arrest) 2.86 times greater than the clearance rate for public police. * In the 1970s, a private investigation firm was contracted to look into police corruption in small towns in Ohio and West Virginia. Within months, the firm's efforts led to more than 150 arrests. * After a drug scandal in 1993, the town of Sussex, New Jersey, replaced its tiny four-officer police force with private policing firm. Contracting out for policing is a common practice in Switzerland and the Bahamas. Calls on Congress to once again investigate the FBI miss the mark, concludes Benson. Changing the political and bureaucratic delivery of policing services requires fundamental reform, and the growth of the private security industry strongly suggests how those reforms ought to take shape. See Bruce Benson's op-ed, The Countervailing Trend to FBI Failures: A Return to Privatized Police Services, at http://www.independent.org/tii/lighthouse/LHLink3-21-1.html. Also see: Poll: 4 out of 10 Americans don't trust FBI (USA Today, 5/24/01) http://www.independent.org/tii/lighthouse/LHLink3-21-2.html. TO SERVE AND PROTECT: Privatization and Community in Criminal Justice, by Bruce Benson (The Independent Institute/New York University Press, 1998) http://www.independent.org/tii/lighthouse/LHLink3-21-3.html. The Independent Institute's archive on crime policy: http://www.independent.org/tii/lighthouse/LHLink3-21-4.html. - INTEGRATING IMMIGRANTS The best way for state governments to help integrate immigrants into American life is to promote private schooling, according to Alex Tabarrok, research director at The Independent Institute. In his testimony before the State of California's Little Hoover Commission, Tabarrok argued that private schooling is the most effective way to foster proficiency in the English language -- the single most important skill for immigrants to learn. California's public high schools, Tabarrok noted, have appalling student dropout rates: 32 percent overall and about 45 percent for immigrants. Dropout rates for similar students are much lower in private schools. California's public schools also have little room for educational diversity, experimentation or competition. In the heated debate over bilingual education, no one questioned why politicians, bureaucrats and voters should decide a question best left to parents and educators. Private education is much better
[CTRL] Fwd: You're Invited.
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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] NYT: drug demand up in europe
May 29, 2001 European Market Expands for Colombian Cocaine By JUAN FORERO OGOTÁ, Colombia, May 28 As cocaine use in the United States has leveled off, trafficking to Europe from Colombia and other cocaine- producing South American countries has picked up, increasing at a particularly rapid pace since the mid- 1990's, according to the latest American data. Estimates by the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy indicate that up to 220 tons of cocaine flowed to Europe last year, as much as double the amount in 1996. The United States, in comparison, received about 330 tons last year, a figure that has remained stable in recent years as consumption by casual users has fallen. It is certainly true that a bigger portion of cocaine goes to Europe than previously, said Klaus Nyholm, who oversees the United Nations Drug Control Program's office in Colombia. The U.S. was the country of cocaine consumption par excellence, while the heroin and opiates were for Asia and Europe. What we see now is that the markets are coming to look more and more alike. Europol, the European Union's fledgling police agency, said in a recent report that 35 percent of Colombia's cocaine was winding up in the union, entering mainly through Spain and the Netherlands. Seizures in member nations reached 43 tons in 1999, the report said, up 37 percent from the year before. There is a definite, unmistakable upward trend, said Robert Brown, acting deputy director for supply reduction at the White House drug policy office, which analyzes worldwide consumption and trafficking data. The dire warning from American officials, some of whom say Europe is facing a crisis, have irked some European officials and drug policy experts. They question Washington's assessment and view the new data as part of its effort to obtain more aid for Colombia's war on drugs, which was created with American pressure and involvement. There is very little sympathy and understanding, Martin Jelsma, a drug policy expert in the Netherlands, said of how Europeans view American policy toward Colombia. Based on private conversations I've had this year with officials from several European countries, the rejection of the current U.S. drug policy approach to Colombia is growing very clearly, added Mr. Jelsma, of the Transnational Institute, which analyzes drug use and international trafficking. That approach relies on the American expenditure of $1.3 billion, most of it in military assistance, for the aerial spraying of herbicides on coca fields. The Europeans have in general resisted supporting what they view as a military-style strategy that they say could intensify Colombia's 37- year-long conflict with leftist rebels, who are active in coca-growing areas and profit from the drug trade. The European Union instead recently pledged $293 million for social development programs in Colombia's impoverished countryside. There has been a tendency in Europe to look at the Colombian problem as one of the Colombians, of course, and the United States, said a high-ranking European official knowledgeable about drug interdiction efforts. The Europeans are clearly dragging their feet. They are engaging more, yes, but from a very low level. The Americans are irritated by Europe's stance. And in private conversations, American officials acknowledge working diplomatic channels to obtain more aid for Colombia. It's big business in Europe, and we think it's going to get a lot bigger, one State Department official said of the cocaine trade. And we're trying to convince the Europeans to get concerned about it. Trafficking to Europe is not new. Law enforcement authorities began detecting large-scale shipments in the 1980's, when Colombian drug cartels, battered by aggressive law enforcement, opened new routes to that largely untapped market. The demand in Europe, however, remained relatively modest through the early 1990's, dwarfed by a seemingly unquenchable appetite in the United States. That has changed. The Colombians, for their part, have in recent months more openly pleaded for aid from European governments. Speaking of the common goal of eradicating drugs, President Andrés Pastrana has traveled to Europe and met here with numerous European delegations. Other Colombians present the issue in starker terms. They have been ashamed to say they have a problem, even though everyone sees what is happening, Rosso José Serrano, the former director of the Colombian National Police, said of the Europeans. It seems to me that this is what happened in the United States, that they only took notice after the place was inundated with cocaine. The Europeans bristle under such criticism, saying an emphasis on treatment and education in their own countries is a more viable solution to drug use. European drug experts say American high-technology interdiction efforts and harsh enforcement inside the United States have had little impact in curtailing the flow of drugs to
