Re: [CTRL] RE: [CTRL] Global Elite Promoting 'End Times' Myth

2003-07-21 Thread Steve Wingate
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Jim, The Bible is mindcontrol bullshit created by a group of ETs bent on controlling
humans. God is a now dead ET. You are a mind-controlled slob like most of us. Get with
the plan and get real. You are currently defined as a chump by the real God, all of us.

Steve

On 20 Jul 2003 at 21:03, Jim Rarey wrote:


 Much of the symbolism in Revelation is explained in Daniel and other Old Testament 
 books.
 If read as a whole, the Bible explains (interprets) itself.

 The fall of Jerusalem and destruction of the temple was prophesized by Jesus. That 
 was
 separate and apart from the tribulation he (Jesus) talks about later.


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[CTRL] NYTimes.com Article: Scientist Who Killed Himself Was Source of Report, BBC Says

2003-07-21 Thread Tenor Love
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Scientist Who Killed Himself Was Source of Report, BBC Says

July 21, 2003
 By WARREN HOGE






LONDON, July 20 - The BBC said today that Dr. David Kelly,
the British weapons expert who committed suicide last week,
was the source for a report on doctoring intelligence files
that led to a battle between the broadcaster and the
government of Prime Minister Tony Blair.

The announcement by the BBC's director of news, Richard
Sambrook, cast doubt on the network's credibility, because
Dr. Kelly had told a parliamentary committee two days
before his death that he had not provided the report's
central contention - that the government had sexed up a
government intelligence dossier by incorporating a claim
that Saddam Hussein had chemical and biological weapons
that could be deployed in 45 minutes.

The announcement further undermined the authority of the
hotly contested report in that Dr. Kelly, 59, a former
United Nations weapons inspector in Iraq and an adviser to
the Ministry of Defense, was not a senior intelligence
official involved in preparing the dossier, as the network
had called its anonymous source.

The original report, broadcast on May 29, was particularly
damaging to the government, which is fighting charges that
it manipulated intelligence information to justify an
unpopular war.

At the time, government officials vehemently denied the
report, pressed the network for its source and repeatedly
demanded a retraction and an apology. The BBC said it stood
behind its reporting and demanded its own apology for the
government's assertion that the broadcaster's news
programming followed an agenda against the war.

Dr. Kelly became involved in the dispute after telling his
Defense Ministry managers that he had met with the BBC
correspondent a week before the report was broadcast. His
name was then leaked to newspapers, and he was brought
before a House of Commons foreign affairs committee, which
subjected him last Tuesday to a round of bruising questions
and name-calling.

His family and friends have speculated that the bullying
treatment overwhelmed the scientist, a soft-spoken man
accustomed to working behind the scenes. In one e-mail
message he sent hours before his death, he said that if
things returned to normal, he would return to Baghdad by
the end of the month. In another, sent to a reporter for
The New York Times, Judith Miller, he discussed how his
testimony had gone: I will wait until the end of the week
before judging - many dark actors playing games.

The police found Dr. Kelly's body on Friday in a wooded
area five miles from his Oxfordshire home, his left wrist
slashed and a package of painkillers nearby.

Mr. Blair has called for an immediate judicial inquiry into
the suicide. Today, during a visit to South Korea, he said
that he himself would testify.

For the BBC, the publicly financed network that sees itself
as the world leader in balanced broadcast reporting and
analysis, the highly charged case comes at an awkward time.
The corporation was already under attack from critics who
said it had not been impartial in its coverage of the war
in Iraq and the conflict in the Middle East.

In addition to its continuing fight with the government at
home, it is derided by right-wing commentators in the
United States as the Baghdad Broadcasting Corporation,
and in Israel its correspondents have been officially
shunned by the government of Ariel Sharon.

In an appearance before a committee of Parliament last week
to discuss the network's annual report, BBC chiefs faced
charges of partiality. One Labor member of the panel,
Rosemary McKenna, said the network had ceased to
differentiate between straightforward news and editorial
comment.

Gavyn Davies, the corporation's chairman, said he was
disturbed by the spate of allegations, and he assured the
lawmakers, We are going to look further at whether we can
ensure audience perceptions of impartiality, something we
already do, but we want to do more.

Mr. Davies conceded that there were some individual errors
along the way, but said that research showed the BBC to be
the most trusted information source in Britain.

BBC audience figures in the United States are rising, but
BBC news correspondents are more aggressive and contrarian
in their interviewing techniques than their American
counterparts, a characteristic that can expose them to
charges of taking sides among people who are accustomed to
the media taking a less hectoring approach to public
figures. BBC officials have responded to the criticism
about their war coverage by saying they are appealing to an
international audience that demands a perspective from both
sides.


[CTRL] CTRL] Global Elite Promoting 'End Times' Myth

2003-07-21 Thread Zuukie
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Steve, I see you've moved into phase two of New Age.  Are you really so
sure that all of the New Age planning wasn't done by the global Nazi
types who have been working to move society away from the monotheistic
religions?

From a new text book, copyright 2002, Religions in the Modern World,
Chapter: New Age Religion, subheading: New Age in a wide and in a strict
sense, subheading Flying Saucers and Utopian Communities.

The immediate roots of the New Age movement may seem surprising at
first sight.  Shortly after the Second World War, popular curiosity was
attracted by unexplained phenommena in the sky referred to as
Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO's).  In various places in Western
Europe and in the US study groups were formed by people who wanted to
investigate these phenomena, and some of these groups proceeded to take
on 'cultic' characteristics.  Typically such groups believed that the
USOs were in fact spaceships inhabited by intelligent beings from other
planets or other dimensions of outer space.  Representing a superior
level of cultural, technological and spiritual evolution, they now made
their appearance to herald the coming of a New Age.  The earth was
entering a new evolutionary cycle that would be accompanied by a new and
superior kind of consciousness.  However since the present cultures of
humanity were thoroughly corrupted by materialism, the;y would resist
this change.  As a result the transition to a new cycle of evolution
would necessitate the destruction of the old civilization by violent
causes such as earthquakes, floods, diseases and the like, resulting in
a global economic, political and social collapse.  Those individuals
whose consciousness was already in tune would survive the period of
cataclysms.  In due course they would become the vanguard of the New Age
or Age of Aquarius: an age of abundance, bliss and spiritual
enlightenment when humanity would once again live in accordance with
universal cosmic laws (Spangler 1984).  (Note:  This spin was to show
how New Age thinking came out of Christian esoteric beliefs.)

...
Looking to the future:
As long as the grand narratives of the West fail to regain their hold
over  the population and no new ones are forthcoming, and as long as
Western democratic societies continue to emphasize the supreme virtue of
individual freedom, the type of 'self religion' traditionally known as
New Age willl remain a force to be reckoned with.

The chapter on New Age is 15 tightly packed pages of spin for the
college age general public.

Better information came out of an academic conference in Denmark,
resulting in the book New Age Religion and Globalization.

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Jim, The Bible is mindcontrol bullshit created by a group of ETs bent on
controlling humans. God is a now dead ET. You are a mind-controlled slob
like most of us. Get with the plan and get real. You are currently
defined as a chump by the real God, all of us.

Steve

On 20 Jul 2003 at 21:03, Jim Rarey wrote:


 Much of the symbolism in Revelation is explained in Daniel and other
 Old Testament books. If read as a whole, the Bible explains
 (interprets) itself.

 The fall of Jerusalem and destruction of the temple was prophesized by

 Jesus. That was separate and apart from the tribulation he (Jesus)
 talks about later.


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Re: [CTRL] RE: [CTRL] Global Elite Promoting 'End Times' Myth

2003-07-21 Thread Jim Rarey
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Steve,

And just what is this "Plan" that I am supposed to "get with"?

JR

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-Caveat Lector-Jim, The Bible is mindcontrol bullshit 
created by a group of ETs bent on controllinghumans. God is a now dead ET. 
You are a mind-controlled slob like most of us. Get withthe plan and get 
real. You are currently defined as a chump by the real God, all of 
us.SteveOn 20 Jul 2003 at 21:03, Jim Rarey 
wrote: Much of the symbolism in Revelation is explained in 
Daniel and other Old Testament books. If read as a whole, the Bible 
explains (interprets) itself. The fall of Jerusalem and 
destruction of the temple was prophesized by Jesus. That was separate 
and apart from the tribulation he (Jesus) talks about 
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[CTRL] The Next Dynasty

2003-07-21 Thread N. Landholt
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Wasn't the Cowboys' offensive line the worst last 
year?
Well, things are changing with the Big Tuna now in 
charge. 
Prediction: Super Bowl champions for a record 6th time 
by the '05-'06 season.

"How 'bout them Cowboys!!!"


/s/ Nick Landholt, Texas

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  The Lion's offensive line. They can't protect any 
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  more season of getting screwed by Favre it look like too. Get prepared for a 
  Bears dynasty.Bill.
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[CTRL] The BBC in the Cross Fire

2003-07-21 Thread Joshua Tinnin
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http://www.mediachannel.org/

http://64.224.42.246/weblog/dannylog.cfm

By Danny Schechter, Jul 17, 2003

THE BBC IN THE CROSS FIRE

BBC World covered Prime Minister Blair's visit this morning with its usual
professional distance, far less cheerily than CNN and with less genuflection
than on Fox. BBC News is usually that way. It is there to cover the news but
now is in the middle of it.

While I was in London last week, I got somewhat of an insider look at an
emerging battle royale between Britain's best-known broadcaster and its
embattled political leaders. What's at stake is as troubling as what is
happening in America vis-à-vis the FCC, and not as well known. Your News
Dissector is still investigating and shares a first in-depth report, hoping
for comment and debate.

THE BBC's NEXT WAR
Why the Knives Are Out for Aunty

LONDON: Politics here has become sport. And drama. Call it the Blair
follies. Call it a lynching party. But don't call it boring.

There is a daily dance underway between a probing media that seemed to have
lost its spine in the fog of war only to find it in all the discrepancies
in official pronouncements about missing weapons of mass destruction, and a
public that grows more skeptical by the day. Meanwhile the government gets
squirmier and testier by the hour, insisting it was right all along and that
the media, especially the BBC, has got it wrong, wrong, wrong.

Many believe that this trashing of the BBC emanates from the pique of a
disgruntled politician like Blair's media advisor Alistair Campbell, or is
meant only to shift attention away from the WMD controversy. The Times of
London calls it a weapon of mass distraction.

It isn't.

The Iraq War may be over but the BBC is in the crosshairs of a new low
intensity war. Most of the British press has yet to realize that this new
battle of Britain is more than a case of shoot the messenger.

If the BBC's credibility can be seriously damaged, its global power ands
political impact can be circumscribed. So far most of the media coverage of
this latest controversy is focused on the issues in the foreground, not the
interests in the background.

There is more at stake.

WHY THE ATTACKS ON THE BBC?

A week ago, a study came out from Cardiff University that found that the
BBC, contrary to the impressions of some (especially those in the US who
compared its war coverage with what passed for journalism on the tube here)
was NOT in the bulk of its coverage anti-war but, rather, pro-government and
tilted towards the war.

That shouldn't surprise.

Led by its effective manager Greg Dyke, a partisan of the New Labor movement
headed by Blair, the BEEB is a vast corporation that usually functions as a
member of the establishment in good standing. The BBC rarely goes to war
against the government of the day.

Despite the evidence in the new study, conservatives, as well as I am told
on good authority, Labor politicians and elements of the British military,
charge that the BBC was anti-war, hostile to the British forces, and
one-sided.

They seem determined to do something about it.

While the opening shots in their attack are being pegged to a current issue,
there is a longer-term strategy behind it that does not seem well
understood. Like many conflicts, this one began with a news story and an
incident. But that may only be a pretext for a more insidious strategy.

THE CONFRONTATION BEGINS

History, deceit and small-mindedness in high places has now cast the Beeb
(or Aunty as it is known), the world's most respected and self-important
broadcaster) into an adversarial role. The government's spinner-in-chief
Alistair Campbell, (Tony wouldn't know what to do without me, he is quoted
as saying) is accusing BBC of bias in general and falsely alleging that he
was involved in sexing up a dossier that was used to justify and sell
British involvement in the war. He demanded a retraction and apology.

At issue is a report by BBC defense correspondent Andrew Gilligan who had a
high-placed source confirming that information in the renamed dodgy
dossier justifying the war had been doctored. The government, which denies
the charge, demands to know Gilligan's source and insists in any event that
one source should never a story make. A parliamentary committee has been
grilling Gilligan, demanding he fess up.

The BBC responds by standing by the story, and says that there would be no
political journalism in the country if every story had to be based on
several sources. The BBC says it believes their source was credible and
could be trusted.

A top BBC official told me he will not under any circumstance reveal his
source. We don't do that, he said firmly. Others point out that many of
Blair's claims in the dossier in dispute were only based on one source, if
any.

THE NEWS DEPARTMENT HANGS TOUGH

The BBC's own Board of Governors, led by a former intelligence chief
reviewed the issue and backed the judgment of BBC News, which prides itself
in its 

[CTRL] FOX Replaces BBC on Israel's Big Cable Network

2003-07-21 Thread N. Landholt
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For those who had the naivete' to believe that FOX was an alternative to the
Big 4.

/s/ Nick Landholt, CPTX

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FOX Replaces BBC on Israel's Big Cable Network

To no one's surprise - no one who's paying attention to these things,
that is - FOX Cable News has been chosen to replace Britain's BBC on the
major cable network in Israel.

Does not this speak volumes?

On the one hand, the BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) is trying to
prevent World War III by pointing out that Israel is being allowed to
act as a dangerous rogue nation, and on the other hand, FOX Cable News
is the most craven news operation in the world when it comes to
parroting the Israeli government line.

FOX Cable News should change it's name to Israeli Press Office Cable
News - in the interest of Truth in Advertising.

Below we reproduce the entire news article from the Baltimore Sun on
this subject from July 7, 2004, sent to us by a friendly researcher.

Before reproducing the article, a few comments are in order, especially
comments about certain lines in the article.

Just last night, July 18, 2003, Bill Kristol of the Weekly Standard, a
regular FOX commentator, called for US troops in Iraq to make war on
Iran for the purpose of regime change, and asserted that he would
support a TAX INCREASE to make war on Iran and Syria (Jewish Supremist
Kristol is, of course, delivering the Jewish Supremist party line,
courtesy of FOX Cable News).

Now here are lines from the below article, with my comments following

Item: The prime minister's (ed: Ariel Sharon's) office is prohibiting
government aides, spokesmen and Cabinet ministers from being interviewed
on the BBC.

Comment: Time honored tactic when Jewish Supremists get their hands
around the throat of a nation. President Dwight Eisenhower, whose
caption in the 1915 Army yearbook was the terrible Swedish Jew,
employed exactly this tactic against the valiant anti-communist
investigations of Senator Joseph McCarthy. Eisenhower forbid all federal
government officials to respond to subpoenas from McCarthy's committee.
See the excellent report up on realnews247.com on Senator McCarthy -
it's the feature story today. There is a 1954 voice clip from McCarthy
lasting 12 minutes which is worth listening to, and an excellent column
by Henry Makow called, Senator McCarthy and the Khazars' Curse.
Anyway, Jewish Supremists running Eisenhower's administration employed
this tactic against Senator McCarthy then, and they employ it again
today against the BBC.

Item:  The top liaison to foreign news organizations said punishment
will extend beyond a boycott: The network's reporters will find it
difficult to renew visas, cross Israeli borders and navigate the
country's sometimes confounding bureaucracy when it comes time to deal
with permits and other matters.

Comment: Yes, this is exactly what I ran into while we were trying to
run our radio ads on WLW and WKRC last October - every manner of petty
obstruction. The Jewish Supremists keenly understand a simple principle:
if one is playing defense, one is not playing offense. So the
persecution that BBC reporters will now undergo is meant to make their
job - reporting the news --- next to impossible. Incidentally, the point
man who is acting as my harasser at WLW and WKRC, Bill Reinberger, has
been billing my campaign for $900 that we do not owe for the last 9
months. I don't know what their game is here, because all radio
stations, including these, have the policy that NO radio ad is run for
political candidates UNTIL the money is paid in full, by money order or
something equivalent. These stations did have to run numerous make up
ads, because of their sabotaging of our program - but it is
unbusiness-like and perhaps even crooked for a radio station to try and
bill for make-up spots.

Item: Our feeling is that they have a policy that is biased against
Israel, said Dan Seaman, head of Israel's Government Press Office, who
complained that skewed BBC reports feed anti-Semitism in Europe. Our
appearing on their show allows them to give the appearance that they are
professional and objective. They have no intention of doing an honest
piece of work.

Comment: Here we have two vintage Jewish Supremist tactics. First, when
someone is telling the truth about them, they start 

[CTRL] Coalition Of Deceit

2003-07-21 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html



July 21, 2003

COALITION OF DECEIT
Dead UK govt' scientist feared 'Dark actors playing games,' but who are they  and why did they want to drag us into war?

In the moments before he set off on what was to be his final stroll across the hills and copses near his home, British government weapons expert Dr. David Kelly sent a number of emails to friends saying he was being haunted by "many dark actors playing games."

He was found dead, several hours later, an apparent suicide.

The British government is in a crisis, and the waves of panic are reverberating over on this side of the Atlantic, as the spiders' web spun by government spinmeisters comes unraveled. The rationale for war on Iraq turns out to have been woven from lies.

The ongoing controversy over the now infamous "16 words" is just the beginning of a scandal that is fast morphing into a much wider cause celebre. Niger-gate is turning into Fibber-gate.

We were told, by the Americans as well as the British government, that Saddam could launch a chemical or biological attack within 45 minutes of giving the order. That turns out to have been a figment of someone's imagination  but whose?

The President of the United States got up there and told the American people that a fleet of UAVs (unmanned aerial vehicles) possessed by the Iraqis was capable of launching an attack on the continental U.S. and leveling American cities  so where is this sinister armada? And where the heck did Bush get such an outlandishly tall tale?

Dr. Kelly was supposedly the key source for a BBC report that the Blair government had "sexed up" the Iraqi WMD dossier in order to drag an unwilling nation into war. In Blair's England, where the right of free speech is ever more precarious, the government launched an all-out assault on the supposedly independent media organization  which does, after all, rely on government revenues  and Dr. Kelly's name had been deliberately leaked as the BBC's "mole" within the Ministry of Defense. He was dragged before a committee of Parliament, mercilessly grilled, kept holed up in a MoD "safe house," and ultimately found dead a few miles from his home. 

Dr. Kelly committed suicide, as far as we know, but it is fair to ask: was he felled, in an important sense, by the "dark actors" he complained about in his final hours?

Shortly before Kelly's death, Julian Borger, writing in the Guardian, brought to light the existence of a network of some very dark actors  a faction of the British and American intelligence agencies that almost certainly was about to be exposed as the source of the disinformation put out by the Bush-Blair coalition of deceit.

In the period leading up to the invasion, as millions marched in the streets hoping to stop the rush to war, Newt Gingrich, the disgraced former Speaker of the House, made at least three trips to CIA headquarters, in Langley, Virginia, to browbeat analysts into projecting a more threatening picture of Iraq's military capabilities. But why, one has to ask, would anyone bother listening to a political has-been and well-known bore? Surely the CIA brass had better things to do. 

"Mr Gingrich gained access to the CIA headquarters and was listened to," reports Borger, "because he was seen as a personal emissary of the Pentagon and, in particular, of the OSP."

The key link in an international chain of professional prevaricators, the OSP, or Office of Special Plans, was authorized by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, and presided over by a cabal of neoconservative ideologues who "functioned like a shadow government," according to Borger. Bypassing both the CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency, they "cherry-picked" tidbits of raw intelligence, acting more like lawyers arguing a case than analysts probing for facts, and piped their propaganda directly to the President via Dick Cheney.

This story is nothing new: Seymour Hersh gave us a good look inside this network, and several writers have elaborated on a similar theme, but Borger provides some telling (and disturbing) new details:

"The OSP itself had less than 10 full-time staff, so to help deal with the load, the office hired scores of temporary 'consultants.' They included lawyers, congressional staffers, and policy wonks from the numerous rightwing thinktanks in Washington. Few had experience in intelligence. 'Most of the people they had in that office were off the books, on personal services contracts. At one time, there were over 100 of them,' said an intelligence source. The contracts allow a department to hire individuals, without specifying a job description."

This was, in effect, a welfare program for warmongers. In the great debate leading up to the war, one side was subsidized and succored by our tax dollars, the other was vilified, threatened, and harassed by paid shills and agents of the U.S. government. Over 100 of the pro-war pundits, professional screamers, and crusading 

[CTRL] Approaching imperial overstretch

2003-07-21 Thread William Shannon
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33674



Approaching imperial overstretch
Patrick J. Buchanan
Posted: July 21, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern

2003Creators Syndicate, Inc. 



The news from Iraq is not good. Each day brings new attacks on U.S. troops. As many Americans have now died since Saddam's statue fell from its Baghdad pedestal as perished in the war. 

Gen. John Abizaid, who replaced Tommy Franks, has contradicted Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld to declare that Iraqis are now engaged in a "classical guerrilla-type campaign against us." 

Franks thought the U.S. Army would be in Iraq two to four years at least. Gen. Barry McCaffrey predicts five to 10 years to pacify and democratize the country. Rumsfeld says the cost of occupying and rebuilding Iraq is now $4 billion a month. 

Yet, it is hard to recall a 20th-century guerrilla war that did not last longer or cost more than projected. And lest we forget, most of these wars were lost. The French lost in Indochina and Algeria, the Americans in Vietnam, the Israelis in Lebanon. 

Western nations prevailed when they aligned themselves with nationalists and were able to deny guerrillas a privileged sanctuary in a neighboring country. Thus, the Brits prevailed in Malaya, and Americans aided the Greeks in defeating communist rebels and Filipinos in defeating the Huks. 

In Nicaragua, Angola and Afghanistan, Reagan turned the tables on Moscow by aligning the United States with nationalists fighting to dump over odious Marxist client regimes of the Soviet Empire. 

But the omens are not good in Iraq. The morale of U.S. troops, who were told "the road home lies through Baghdad," is sinking, as is support for the president, as Americans realize the fighting and dying have only just begun. 

The initiative has passed to the enemy. He chooses the time and place of attack, he has the element of surprise. And the presence of a U.S. army of 150,000 occupying an Arab country is a lure to every Muslim who hates us to slip over the border and kill Americans without having to face the firepower of U.S. fleets and planes. 

Another problem the president faces is that we are running out of army. With U.S. active duty forces down to half what Ronald Reagan left us in 1989, we have troop deployments and treaty commitments President Reagan never had to honor. 

Packets of U.S. forces are now not only in Germany, South Korea and Japan, but Colombia, the Philippines, Eastern Europe, Bosnia, Kosovo, the former Soviet republics of Central Asia, Afghanistan, Iraq and the Gulf. U.S. troops are being requested for Liberia. And with a guerrilla war now being waged in Iraq, two other axis-of-evil nations, Iran and North Korea, are driving for nuclear weapons. Confrontation, even conflict, with either cannot be ruled out of Pentagon plans. 

America is now approaching the imperial overstretch toward which we have been lunging and stumbling since the Cold War. For 10 years, the "jodpurs-and-pith-helmets" jingo crowd at the little magazines has been beating the drum to drive us toward this cataract. 

Now, we are there, the United States is facing what Walter Lippmann called "foreign-policy bankruptcy." 

A foreign policy is bankrupt when a nation's strategic assets  its forces and alliances  are insufficient to cover its liabilities, what it has committed to defend. U.S. foreign-policy bankruptcy was reached before Pearl Harbor, when Franklin Roosevelt was issuing ultimata to Japan without the naval power to defend the Philippines and any other island possessions in the far Pacific. So, our notes were called, we had insufficient funds to cover them, and the war came. 

Foreign policy bankruptcy is a condition that invites a run on the bank by a nation's enemies and adversaries. So today, we see axis-of-evil nations defying the Bush Doctrine and driving toward nuclear weapons, Iraqis rising up to expel us, Muslim fanatics slipping into Iraq to attack our soldiers, and alienated allies sitting back and relishing watching the "American hyper-power" thrash about. 

As our reserves are being called up, not only is our active duty U.S. military stretched thin. Our budget deficit is $455 billion and rising, our trade deficit is $500 billion and rising, our dollar has fallen 25 percent against the euro. 

In ruthless candor, President Bush does not have the surplus of resources  military, strategic, financial, political  to hold the empire. As some of us predicted a decade ago, the compulsive interventionism of the Bushites must lead to imperial overstretch. 

Something has to give. It is going to be the empire. We are at or close to high tide now. From here on, it begins to recede. Either President Bush starts discarding imperial responsibilities we cannot carry, and bringing the troops home, or his successor will.





[CTRL] Was Dr. Kelly - Vince Fostered?

2003-07-21 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.etherzone.com/2003/sart072103.shtml



WAS DR. KELLY - VINCE FOSTERED?
SUICIDES FOR THE SECRET

By: SARTRE

This time all those conspiracy nuts started their swim from the other side of the pond. We all know that the English are surely above intrigue and sinister deeds, just ask Roberto Calvi, you know Gods Banker, as he hung from Blackfriars Bridge. All those suspect and secret financial dealings with the Vatican had the Holy See distance themselves from the suicide back in 1987.  That collapse of Banco Ambrosiano and subsequent fraudulent-bankruptcy surely couldnt involve American Archbishop Paul Marcinkus, then president of the Institute for Religious Works (IOR), the official name of the Vatican bank. Amazing that the official story of Calvis death was finally rejected as the real cause of his fate.

Surely there can be no doubt about all that commotion over Vince Foster taking his own life, right? All those Yankee kooks that think the worst about Beltway spooks surely dont have any proof that collusion was involved with Hillarys other partners suicide. Who would believe those stories about him being a bag man for all those numbered accounts and frequent flyer miles in and out of Geneva? Poor old Vince left that note before he offed himself, didnt he? Surely we all accept the facts in that Fiske report, even if it was preliminary and sealed, right? Leaks and spin always seems to bring out the best in the press and the public servants. We can believe them, only a crackpot sees a plot in every park . . .

So surely, we can accept that Dr David Kelly bled to death, the New York Times reported it, and they never lie! His wife, Jan, said on Friday that he had committed suicide. Arent you glad you get such quality reporting from a source you can trust? If you doubt the Brits, how about that AFP news wire report, you can believe the French. Surely you can that stock in the Thames Valley police spokesman when he said: there was no evidence anyone else was involved. 

But for the purest, only the BBC can be reliable. News you know to be above the fray and leak proof.


Iraq weapons expert Dr David Kelly reportedly warned of "many dark actors playing games" in an e-mail sent hours before he bled to death from a slashed wrist.

The message, sent to a journalist, appeared to refer to officials within the Ministry of Defence and British intelligence agencies with whom he had sparred over interpretations of weapons reports, according to the New York Times.

But his e-mail gave no indication he was depressed and said he was waiting "until the end of the week" before judging how his appearance before the committee had gone, the newspaper said. 



If you seem a little confused, surely, you can have confidence in Tony Blair! When asked, hard at work in Asia, whether the crisis would cause him or any of his top aides to resign and asked if he felt he had blood on his hands, his reply was: I hope we can set aside the speculation and the counterclaims and allow that due process to take its proper course. And in the mean time, all of us, the politicians and media alike, should show some respect and restraint. Boy, Tony must be retaining Robert Fiske to advise on perfecting restraint, in light of suicide investigations.

Now that the BBC has disclosed that Dr David Kelly was the principal source for its controversial report claiming Downing Street "sexed up" an Iraq weapons dossier, what will a Prime Minister do? Surely, Sky News reflects the sentiment of the English - Kelly was the mole, and near three quarters of their polls say that Blair should resign. Wow, if only Americans had the same outrage when Vince was grazing on the grass. 

It should not be overlooked that Dr Kelly was the senior adviser on biological weapons to the UN biological weapons inspections teams (Unscom) from 1994 to 1999, he was also, in the opinion of his peers, pre-eminent in his field, not only in this country, but in the world. Could it be possible - surely just coincidental - that the world's top microbiologists are dying. Note a pattern?

1. Nov. 12, 2001: Benito Que was said to have been beaten in a Miami parking lot and died later.
2. Nov. 16, 2001: Don C. Wiley went missing. Was found Dec. 20. Investigators said he got dizzy on a Memphis bridge and fell to his death in a river.
3. Nov. 21, 2001: Vladimir Pasechnik, former high-level Russian microbiologist who defected in 1989 to the U.K. apparently died from a stroke.
4. Dec. 10, 2001: Robert M. Schwartz was stabbed to death in Leesberg, Va. Three Satanists have been arrested.
5. Dec. 14, 2001: Nguyen Van Set died in an airlock filled with nitrogen in his lab in Geelong, Australia.
6. Feb. 9, 2002: Victor Korshunov had his head bashed in near his home in Moscow.
7. Feb. 14, 2002: Ian Langford was found partially naked and wedged under a chair in Norwich, England.
8. 9. Feb. 28, 2002: San Francisco resident Tanya Holzmayer was killed by a microbiologist colleague, 

[CTRL] Trapped In A Guerrilla War - RECKLESS NEOCONS

2003-07-21 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.etherzone.com/2003/nova072103.shtml



TRAPPED IN A GUERRILLA WAR
RECKLESS NEOCONS

By: Novakeo

The Apostle Paul - You must understand this, that in the last days distressing times will come. For people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, inhuman, implacable, slanderers, profligates, brutes, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, holding to the outward form of godliness but denying its power, Avoid them!. 2nd Timothy 3: 1-6

How prophetic indeed, as we watch the slithering neocons squirm under the pressure of truthful revelations concerning their lies and violent activities in Iraq, we see that the war on evil is a human improbability where the only outcome can be more evil than before. Yes, the neocons say that their crusade against evil is a righteous cause that requires the masses to lock in step and be a good citizen and accept as fundamentally necessary the obvious contradictions and misrepresentations to the Straussians tactics in combating said evil. In other words, it is ok to lie, murder, fabricate, break the law and distort the truth if it is for the good cause like waging perpetual war on a perceived evil. 

The neocons and their cheering section in the Christian right have shown the world how exceptionally implacable they are when the truth exposes their treachery and apostasy. To them it does not matter if the war with Iraq was based on fabrications, was unlawful, contrived for their own purposes, it still was worth it in the end because Saddam has disappeared. They consistently neglect and refuse to look into their own eyes and discern that behind that log is nothing but dead bones and corruption, the personification of evil, thus evil demands that evil destroys the weaker evil so it can augment its power of perversion. The so called war against evil is primarily a spiritual battle, we fight against principalities in high places, and the truth be revealed, evil was defeated at the cross and the resurrection of the living Christ.

The adversary was defeated by the power of the blood of the Lamb of God, and cannot be defeated by the high tech sophistic of the modern military. So, all we can witness concerning mans inability to live in peace is one form of evil fighting another under erroneous banners and timeless clichs in whatever happens to be the favorite flavor of the month like war on terrorism or the war on evil. These people actually are working to bring upon the earth a final war, who believes that the war of Armageddon is a battle between good and evil, where one group of nations is battling another group in a final epic conflagration for righteousness. They seem to conveniently neglect or conclude as nugatory the prophetic passages in scripture where it clearly reveals that all nations are evil and in the final hour try in a concerted effort to stop the second coming of the Prince of Peace with collective military might.

Therefore beware of the profligates that demand a war with evil Islam for the liberation of their assets, who demand that you send your sons to sacrifice their lives so that the oligarchy and its minions can feel vindication and pride at the relative imagery of evil destroyed and to a fallacious betterment of the human condition within war torn Iraq not to mention the added security to their first love, Israel.

Never mind that the Iraqis have organized themselves to wage guerrilla warfare which is the worst nightmare for the military, American forces are not very well suited for a protracted guerrilla war because the American military cannot take casualties on a regular bases, which in the end will bring defeat for the United States in Iraq. The United States can invade and destroy a fifth rate military power like Iraq within a matter of weeks, but it cannot and will not win a war of attrition. The neocons have positioned America once again in a Vietnam type of war and the only recourse they have is to send more troops to the effected area and increase the violence which will only serve to increase the resistance by the Iraqis.

Already we are witnessing the disintegration of discipline with American troops in Iraq. The direct outspokenness or bitchin by some soldiers to the media concerning their hated predicament who are angered by the lies told to them by their government, and who have obviously had enough of Iraq and want to come home. American soldiers in Iraq are quickly realizing that they are being bushwhacked and killed for their lying government and thats it, not for their country, not for their countrys security, not for any legitimate vital interest, and they do not like it one bit. They are witnessing first hand how the oligarchy, especially the neocon variety, consider them nothing more than hired cannon fodder to be used as rudimentary objects on the neocon road to 

[CTRL] How Gingrich Berserkers Seized The Democratic Party

2003-07-21 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2003/3028gingrich_dems.html



This article appears in the July 18, 2003 issue of Executive Intelligence Review. 

How Gingrich Berserkers
Seized Democratic Party

by Anton Chaitkin When Ted Kennedy warned in January 1995 that America doesn't need two Republican Parties, he had the problem inside out. Evidence newly appearing confirms that a single gang, the hyper-New Age fascists around Newt Gingrich and Alvin Toffler, was then strangling Republicans and Democrats, while sweeping aside the traditionalists in both parties. This is the war-crazy faction which has recently been running Bush policy through the Vice Presidency and the Pentagon, and, acting through the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC), sabotaging and silencing the Democratic Party of Franklin Roosevelt.

When the 'New Paradigm' Was Born

The gang's blatant inter-party arrangement emerged in 1990, when the DLC teamed up with the radical rightists who were then fighting a bruising battle for control of the first Bush Administration. DLC strategist Elaine Kamarck, and her friend James Pinkerton, aide to President George H.W. Bush, established the "New Paradigm Society" to coordinate between right-wing Democrats and Gingrichites. Kamarck reportedly had met Pinkerton at the 1988 Democratic National Convention, where she was a Democratic Party advisor. Pinkerton soon afterward made his mark working for the senior Bush's Presidential campaign versus the Democratic nominee, Massachusetts Gov. Michael Dukakis. Pinkerton did the research for the Republicans' famous racist attacks on the theme of Willie Horton, an African-American convict, who allegedly committed a murder after being paroled by Dukakis. Pinkerton became domestic policy advisor for the Bush Administration; Kamarck went on the staff of the Democratic Leadership Council.

Around February 1990, Kamarck and Pinkerton set in motion their New Paradigm Society, which was to run for the next two years. They met regularly with Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.), DLC officers, and others to promote lower wages, privatization, deregulation, globalist free trade, the post-industrial "New Economy," and the neo-conservatives' global war agenda. Among those associated with this behind-the-scenes initiative were Connecticut Democrat Joe Lieberman, whose first election to the Senate had just been sponsored by William F. Buckley and funded by the most right-wing Cuban exile leadership in Florida.

Pinkerton outlined his "New Paradigm" in an April 1990 speech to the rightist Reason Foundation in Santa Monica, California, and in another talk to the Gingrich/Toffler World Future Society. His radical smash-the-poor, dismantle-the-government program was clothed in caring rhetoric, allowing for gay rights, speculator rights, etc.

Battle in the 'Grand Old Party'

Some more mainstream Republicans soon declared war against Pinkerton's New Paradigm. Office of Management and Budget (OMB) Director Richard Darman spoke out on Nov. 16, 1990, denouncing the trend of "neo-neo-ism" and "neo-Newtism." He called the New Paradigm "a bit too pretentious for a would-be populist movement." Less than two weeks later, on Nov. 29, 1990, Congressman Gingrich demanded that Darman resign, calling him a "Republican Dukakis." The factional brawl dominated Washington political headlines. On the right, Pinkerton, Gingrich, Mississippi Sen. Trent Lott, and Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Jack Kemp fought the centrists, led by OMB Director Darman and White House Chief of Staff John Sununu, who were trying to keep the first Bush Administration from becoming a utopian fascist nightmare.

Meanwhile, the allied "DLC moles" continued undermining the Democratic Party. James Pinkerton has told EIR that while Democratic Leadership Council officials collaborated directly with him and like-thinking Republicans through the monthly meetings of New Paradigm Society, the DLC's mafia-linked chief financier, Michael Steinhardt, would meet with Pinkerton only inside the DLC headquarters.

The DLCacting in the name of its "think-tank," the Progressive Policy Institute (PPI), which Steinhardt chairedheld a big Washington public forum jointly sponsored by the powerful rightist Heritage Foundation. James Pinkerton was the star speaker, and though both Heritage and the DLC are now closed-mouthed about the event, it apparently took place Oct. 30, 1991, at the Hyatt Hotel. The forum's reported theme, "Beyond Left and Right," is a kind of in-joke among Friedrich Nietzsche admirers, echoing his slogan, "beyond good and evil."

The Heritage Foundation's leaders worked directly with the DLC in the early 1990s to organize DLC's fundraising and polemics, as DLC founder and CEO Al >From confessed in the DLC's authorized history (Reinventing Democrats, by Kenneth S. Baer).

The DLC was then backing Arkansas Gov. Bill Clinton for President, since Clinton publicly endorsed their politics, while no politician in their 

[CTRL] N.Korea - Too Little Too Late

2003-07-21 Thread William Shannon
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http://www.kimsoft.com/2003/granberry.htm



OPLAN 5030 - 
Too Little too late

Don Granberry, July 15, 2003
A letter to the Korea WebWeekly


It is entirely too little too late. The Bush Administration has misread Kim Jong-il almost completely--I think. If they do understand what he is up to, they show no sign of it in public. Even so, in light of recent developments, Kim Jong-il must make his move in the next few weeks or he will be at an extreme disadvantage. President Roh has made the best of a bad situation, unfortunately, his thinking has been as short-ranged as Kim Jong-il's. 

I have tried very hard to make this clear and failed, but I will relate it to you in hopes that you will relay it to others who might be able to influence the coming turn of events. 

The United States cannot and will not tolerate a nuclear armed DPRK. It's just that simple. The US will NOT tolerate it. If anyone thinks that the US will tolerate a unified Korea that is also a nuclear power, but is being ruled by the Kim Dynasty, either publicly or behind the scenes, they are making a very poor assessment of the situation. The United States will NOT tolerate a nuclear armed DPRK. Do try to understand this. This sentiment runs across the entire political spectrum in the United States. 

Kim Jong-il stands a very good chance of achieving his goals, if he is about to do what I think he is. He cannot win a war with the United States. He knows that. His goal then, is to drive a wedge between the US and its Asian allies. He cannot separate the United States and Japan via political means the way he as the US and the ROK. Force is required for that job and with nuclear warheads at his disposal, he very clearly has the means. If he can achieve this, he can put Hu Jintao in a position of having no choice but to support Pyongyang against the US. This will result in an immediate victory over the United States without having to continue the war with the United States. 

How can he do this? Simple. He tests a nuclear warhead somewhere in the Sea of Japan and then announces that he has a weapon of the same exact type as the one just tested somewhere in Japan. Finding a concealed nuclear weapon is no mean feat. The Japanese would not cooperate with the US in a conflict with the DPRK until the warhead was found--and may not ever cooperate in such a conflict at all in the future. The Japanese are very much inclined to settle things through negotiation as we all know very well. Despite the outrageous claims being made by KCNA, the Japanese are about as likely to start a war as my three year old grandson. They are going to be even less inclined to fight if they are confronted with the possibility of being nuked again. 

This would buy Kim the time and leverage he needs to negotiate the unification treaty he wants with President Roh. It also gives him enormous leverage over the Japanese and he would likely get the Reparations Settlement he wants from the Japanese. The US would have no choice but to sit on its hands throughout this entire ordeal. 

Here is the long range problem and it is inescapable. Sooner or later, the United States would attack Korea anyway. This time though, the South would be as much the enemy as the North has been. This war will NOT be a ground war. The United States will NOT worry about civilian casualties in Korea the way it did in Iraq. The situation in Korea is different in several key respects, as I think you already know. The cost of preserving civilian lives in this war would be entirely unsupportable for the US. My guess is that we would simply nuke Korea flat and be done with it. At best, assuming Kim did nothing too terribly provocative after unification, Korea will survive another twenty years after a forced reunification. I don't think Kim is bright enough to realize that the greater his successes against us, the more horrifying the eventual payback will be. I don't think he would sit on his hands after a forced Unification. I think he would do something to trigger a response from the United States and that response would be sudden, swift and completely fatal. 

So what is the cure to the immediate problem? There are no good ones. My guess is that the Bush Administration is about to conclude that the ouster of the Kim Dynasty is now necessary, if it has not already reached such a conclusion, and will proceed with that goal in mind. This is why I suggested that Kim must move quickly if he is going to save himself and his country. 

A dramatic diplomatic turn on Pyongyang's part in the next couple of weeks could save the day. Barring that, the destruction of the DPRK, or the whole of Korea becomes immanent. Beijing could have in the past and could at any time put a stop to this entire thing, but I do not anticipate that they will act. I'm sure that Hu Jintao regards the Kim Dynasty as a thorn in his foot and would be happy to help the US deal with him, but the older heads in China are licking their 

[CTRL] Pro-Christ vs. Anti-Christ Jews

2003-07-21 Thread Party of Citizens
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 The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to
think
 things out for himself.  Almost inevitably, he comes to the conclusion
that the
 government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable.  H. L.
Menken

 Praise God we're finally getting down to brass tacks as to whether there's
free
 speech in this country, or not. Of course those of us on the front lines
learned
 the answer to that, the hard way, long ago. But it's always useful to have
a
 good set of current facts handy,  with which to illustrate the point.

 The following story shows how fomenting fears of violence is the tactic of
 choice for moving the 'powers-that-be' to effect prior restraint upon
otherwise
 lawful activities which [ gasp ! ] might MIGHT make people think for
themselves.


 Gordon Watson
 candidate for Burnaby-Edmonds for the Party of Citzens Who Have Decided To
Think
 For Themselves  Be Their Own Politicians~~


 RELIGIOUS CAMPAIGN TESTS FAITH
 DOOR-TO-DOOR BLITZ COULD LEAD TO VIOLENCE, CANADIAN JEWISH CONGRESS FEARS

 Toronto Ontario

 Jul 20, 2003
 Lisa Queen, Staff Writer

 York Region's 43,000 Jews are about to be caught in a nasty tug of war
between a
 controversial evangelical organization called Jews for Jesus and
mainstream
 Jewish organizations.

 The information I have is Thornhill is one of the prime targets of Jews
for
 Jesus for their campaign, said Canadian Jewish Congress executive
director
 Bernie Farber, who accuses the organization of using trickery and
deception to
 convert vulnerable Jews to Christianity.

 Jews for Jesus is trying to destroy us spiritually, he said.

 Mr. Farber is trying to set up a meeting with York Regional Police Chief
Armand
 La Barge to ensure there is no violence between the new groups when Jews
for
 Jesus launches a massive evangelical campaign next month in the Greater
Toronto
 Area and in other cities around the world.

 He said there were near riots when a new religious organization called
City of
 David Messianic Synagogue in Thornhill promoted a similar message six
years ago.

 This has the potential to be worse, said Mr. Farber, who believes Jews
for
 Jesus will target Russian Jews who recently arrived in the Bathurst Street
and
 Steeles Avenue area.

 Jews for Jesus Canadian director Andrew Barron says his members are both
 Christians and Jews trying to bring their belief Jesus is the Messiah to
Jewish
 communities.

 What I'm trying to say is, if Jesus is the Messiah, the most obvious
thing, as
 a Jew, you can do is believe in him, said Mr. Barron, who pointed out
Jesus and
 his early followers were Jewish.

 But Rabbi Michael Skobac, of Thornhill's Jews for Judaism, insists the
Christian
 and Jewish religions are diametrically opposed on the issue of whether
Jesus is
 the Saviour and for an organization to tell Jews they can believe the
Christian
 message and still retain their Jewish religion is deceitful.

 While he said he doesn't object to Christians spreading the word of Jesus,
he's
 angry Jews for Jesus tells Jews they can believe Jesus is the Messiah
while
 still remaining Jewish.

 Mr. Farber is also upset churches in the Greater Toronto Area are ignoring
or
 turning their backs on the congress's plea to condemn the tactics of Jews
for
 Jesus.

 For example, Pastor Kel Trudgian of Grace Church in Newmarket wrote a
letter to
 the congress insisting Jews for Jesus has every right to promote its
message.

 I find your letter castigating Jews for Jesus offensive and a direct
threat to
 the natural law of freedom of speech, freedom of association and freedom
of
 religion, he stated in his letter.

 The Jewish community is made of mature, intelligent individuals who are
 committed to their God and faith. They make good and right choices every
day.
 They are quite capable of choosing to talk to, or not talk with people
from
 different faith perspectives.

 Pastor Trudgian could not be reach for comment.

 Although Jews for Jesus has been operating since the 1960s, at the heart
of the
 battle is the organization's three-week evangelical campaign beginning
next
 

[CTRL] David Kelly Death - More Info

2003-07-21 Thread cybervoyager
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DAVID KELLY SUICIDE IN UK:

The BBC's Shaun Ley"David Kelly was 
thrust into the limelight because of a meeting with a BBC 
journalist"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/video/39294000/rm/_39294111_kelly13_ley_vi.ram
Garth Whitty, former colleague 
of David Kelly"He was a quiet man who got on with his 
job"http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/video/39293000/rm/_39293917_kelly11_whitty_int_vi.ram

U.K. Police: David Kelly Death 
Apparent SuicideSaturday, July 19, 2003SOUTHMOOR, England 
 British police said Saturday that the death of former weapons inspector 
David Kelly (provided UK With WMD Intelligence info) was apparently 
self-inflected.http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,92378,00.html

He was Head of Microbiology at the Chemical and Biological 
Defence Establishment, Porton Down. Porton Down, directly, and the CIA, 
indirectly, received their samples of the particular anthrax spores used in 
the attacks from the US Army Medical Research Institute of Infections 
Diseases at Fort Detrick, about 50 miles north of Washington.

Since the First World War, the Chemical and Biological 
Defence Establishment at Porton Down 
carried out experiments on volunteers to understand better 
the effects of chemical agents that 
might be used against British troops in warfare and 
improve protective measures.

By 1991 the Chemical Defence Establishment of Porton Down 
became the Chemical and Biological 
Defence Establishment and was one of the six new Defence 
Support Agencies. In 1995, the 
Establishment became part of the Defence Evaluation and 
Research Agency (DERA)saint_athyrius: In 2001, DERA split into two 
organisations: QinetiQ, a private company, and DSTL 
(Defence Science and Technology Laboratory) In July 2002, the Carlyle Group took a 34% stake in 
QinetiQ.
Iraq weapons expert Dr David Kelly reportedly warned of 
"many dark actors playing games" in an 
e-mail sent hours before he bled to death from a slashed 
wrist.

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3080795.stm
  http://216.239.57.104/searchq=cache:L7tynBSrLwkJ:www.rense.com/general20/mic.htm+Dead+Microbiologistshl=enie=UTF-8
  http://www.rense.com/general20/mic.htm


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[CTRL] Children Of Satan by Anton Chaitkin

2003-07-21 Thread cybervoyager
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Children Of Satan by Anton 
Chaitkin:

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[CTRL] George Bush Seniors Pedophile Scandals

2003-07-21 Thread cybervoyager
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George Bush Seniors Pedophile 
Scandals 
Bush Sr's Child sex scandal, Promptly forgotten by 
American Public 3:02am Fri Apr 25 '03 (Modified on 6:38pm Sun Apr 27 
2003)This was the scandal that much bigger than Monica. Why did the 
media not give the same coverage. 


  http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=314600




  http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=42365;title=APFN
Bush's name had repeatedly surfaced in 
the Nebraska 
scandalSun Jul 20 14:06:17 2003208.152.73.118Here George Bush is 
named to have taken part in the child sex parties. 


  http://www.eagle-net.org/BrantonsFiles/naznwo15.html
Bush's name had 
repeatedly surfaced in the 
Nebraska scandal. But his name was 
first put into print in July 1989, a little less than a month after the 
Washington call boy affair had 
first madeheadlines.[Senate Committee 
investigator Gary Caradori's witnesses claimed to have seen in the company of 
George Bush at one of Larry King's 
Washington parties." Gary Caradori 
was a retired state policeinvestigator who had been hired by the Nebraska 
Senate to investigate the case, and who had DIED mysteriously DURING THE COURSE 
of his investigations. Child abuse has become one of the epidemics of the 
1990s," Bowman told "GQ". Allegedly, one of Bowman's sources is a 
retiredpsychiatrist who worked for the CIA. He added that cocaine 
trafficking and political corruption [Bush and his CIA associates were allegedly 
involved with all three.George Bush--Omaha Call Boys: http://www.the7thfire.com/bush21.htmThe 
Pedophocracy, Part II: http://davesweb.cnchost.com/pedo2.htmlThe 
Franklin, Nebraska CoverUp: http://www.davidicke.net/tellthetruth/coverups/decamp.htmlDonna 
Chapel - Johnny Gosch: http://www.donnachapel.com/johnny_gosch.html
The Johnny Gosch Foundation:http://web.archive.org/web/20011021051432/http://www.johnnygosch.com/index.html
Have you seen me? STILL 
MISSING!!!
The story 20/20 wouldn't tellBy: Noreen Gosch
http://www.mediabypass.com/archives/feb-00.htmFamous 
Kidnapping Case Implicates Top Political Figures in Child Prostitution 
Networkhttp://www.americanfreepress.net/RFA_Articles/Kidnapping_Case_Implicates_Top/kidnapping_case_implicates_top.html
Ted Gunderson Reporthttp://web.archive.org/web/20020610024055/johnnygosch.com/gunderson_report.htmlMind 
Control Victim Awarded $1 Million
Bonacci article - Des Moines Registerhttp://www.raven1.net/ra1.htmBohemian 
Bigwigs Perpetuate Canaanite Culthttp://www.sonic.net/~doretk/ArchiveARCHIVE/MARK%20EVANS/BohemianClub.htmlBohemian 
Grove: Hell-Fire in a Foresthttp://www.econcrisis.homestead.com/Bohemian_Grove_Hell_Fire.htmlThe 
Findershttp://www.geminiwalker-ink.net/HellFinders.html
On February 7th of 1987, the Washington Post ran an 
interesting story that did not at first seem to have any particularly national 
significance. The article concerned a case of possible kidnapping and child 
abuse, and material discovered in the Washington area that they say points to a 
1960s style commune called the Finders, described in a court document as a 
"cult" that conducted" brainwashing" and used children "in rituals." DC police 
who searched the Northeast Washington warehouse linked to 
the groupremoved large plastic bags filled with color slides, photographs 
and photographic contact sheets. Some showed naked children involved in what 
appeared to be "cult rituals," bloodletting ceremonies of animals and one 
photograph of a child in chains.Customs officials said their links to 
the DC area led authorities into a far-reaching investigation that includes The 
Finders -- a group of about 40 people that court documents allege is led by a 
man named Marion Pettie -- and their various homes, including the duplex 
apartment in Glover Park, the Northeast Washington warehouse and a 90 acre farm 
in rural Madison County, VA.It was the US News and World Report that 
would ultimately provide the follow-up to the Finders story, noting that there 
is a certain Customs Service memorandum that was written at the time of the 
original investigation, written by Ramon J. Martinez, Special Agent, United 
States Customs Service, describing two adult white  
males and six minor children ages 7 years to 2 years. The adult males were 
Michael Houlihan and Douglas Ammerman, both of Washington, DC who had been 
arrested the previous day on charges of child abuse.The children were covered 
with insect bites, were very dirty, most of the children were not wearing 
underpants and all of the children had not been bathed in many days. The men 
were somewhat evasive under questioning and stated only that they were the 
children's teachers and were en route to 
Mexico to 
establish a school for brilliant children. The children were unaware of the 
functions of telephones, television and toilets, and stated that they were not 
allowed to live indoors and were only given food as a reward.A Detective 
Bradley had initiated an investigation on the two 

[CTRL] research on Loftus/Ethics and Recovered Memory, Iraq

2003-07-21 Thread Smart News
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Two research papers are now available on line : 
 
Research Paper - The Alleged Ethical Violations of Elizabeth Loftus in the Case of Jane Doe by Neil Brick at http://members.aol.com/smartnews/Loftus_Ethics.htm

Research Paper - The Neurological Bases for the Theory of Recovered Memory by Neil Brick at http://members.aol.com/smartnews/Neurological_Memory.htm


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=574ncid=721e=3u=/nm/20030720/wl_nm/iraq_protest_dc
U.S. Troops Fix Bayonets Against Iraqi Crowd
Sun Jul 20, 4:07 PM ET
By Miral Fahmy NAJAF, Iraq (Reuters) - U.S. Marines fixed bayonets on Sunday to disperse an angry crowd of 10,000 Iraqi Shi'ites in the holy city of Najaf after tempers flared over rumors of U.S. harassment of a radical cleric. 
Marchers dispersed after two hours but some of the Shi'ite cleric's supporters warned of an "uprising" in the city if the Americans failed to pull out within three days. "If they don't leave, they will face a popular uprising," said Sayed Razak al-Moussawi
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