Re: [CTRL] SWAT Nation

1999-09-13 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Agreed.Revolution with guns is self defeating, they would just love that. A recipe for self destruction. This is 1999 not 1799. Use the dialectic against itself. Both sides are corrupt. Let them destroy each other.Of course we can help it along some.. as you

[CTRL] ] Our Presidential Choices

1999-09-22 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Interesting post from Tenebrous. "Buchanan=fascism of the nationalist variety." Thats "national socialism" of the Hitler- Mussolini variety. There are indicators in Buchanan of other nat.soc. traits. (l)Racism and anti=semitism (2) economic nationalism (3) militarism

[CTRL] Homeopathy Hit Piece..reply

1999-09-26 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- l Read the MEMORY OF WATER (battle of ideas in the New Science) by Michel Schiff about the work of Dr Jacques Benveniste in Paris.On page 26 look at the "second curve" Harper Collins would not import the book into the US (it was published by Thorsons, a London subsidiary)

Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy Hit Piece..reply

1999-09-26 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Avogadros limit applies to our third dimension only. If you think beyond this, not in the textbooks, you will understand. I can give you the literature guides but I am not going to run a correspondence course.. You have to do the work And if you already made up your

[CTRL] Homeopathy -the second curve

1999-09-27 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- You will never understand homeopathy and many other New Science technologies if you think in the conventional framework. You have to posit another dimension..we call it 4-space Within conventional thinking homeopathy CANNOT WORK for several reasons especially Avogadros

Re: [CTRL] Monsanto and water-resource plotting

1999-09-27 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- There has been a storm of protest in Europe and Australasia over MONSANTO and its genetically modified seeds. US even used the ECHELON system to intercept European communications on behalf of Monsanto. NSA denies this but they lie routinely anyway ("plausible deniability").

Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy -the second curve

1999-09-27 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- l, Of course they have to be demonstrable..You have inserted your assumption into my statement.. Again study the MEMORY OF WATER by Michel Schiiff and the work of Jacques Benveniste. at INSERM, in Paris. At last count there were 500 confirming experiments Schiff is the

Re: [CTRL] Monsanto and water-resource plotting

1999-09-27 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Joshua2 Please when youve figured out how to tackle Monsanto let us know.!!..there is a world wide waiting audience out there. Not only the Europeans but Australasia and India.as well. Monsanto is a global skunk at the moment This would be a blow to NWO and the Strobe

[CTRL] Alternative medicine

1999-09-28 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- I suspect there is no money (profit) in botanicals or homeopathic preparations for llarge firms. They cannot be patented. So why would a pharmaceutical firm even think about homeopathy and botanicals?. And people have gotten used to instant relief.which allopathic

[CTRL] The Memory Of Water and Robert Park.

1999-09-28 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- You cite Robert L Park and "serious misrepresentations of modern physics" Park is a most unfortunate person to cite. Park is the former American Physical Society spokesman who made a fool of himself on LENR ( low energy nuclear reactions) The APS has now modified its

[CTRL] ] Homeo Hit Piece

1999-09-29 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Bill Why dont you takea look at David Bohm, the late and famed physicist. Light years ahead of Robert Park. Bohms great contribution to science is the concept of the "implicate order"...this apparently hasnt hit the textbooks yet and certainly is foreign to Robert Parks

[CTRL] The Obstruction Of Justice Department?--..

1999-09-30 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- INVESTIGATION OF DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS URGENT AND VITAL Once the rule of law and quality of justice goes the rest of society is headed for the drain. Some years ago I checked DOJ and found thirty in place cover-ups.,..Iran Contra, inslaw, Danny Casolaro, cocaine trafficking

[CTRL] Interior Dept. files destroyed before probe (fwd)

1999-10-01 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Now its Fish and Wildlife Service ! Destruction of evidence. Earlier in the week it was Laura Ingersoll at Department of "Justice" who refuses to file bribery charges because "thats the way the system works" Doesnt anyone in Washington have the guts to file felony charges

Re: [CTRL] The Obstruction Of Justice Department?--..

1999-10-01 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Prudy You are right, every so often, once in a while, someone honorable comes along But fewer and fewer over the last decade. As a generality D.C. TODAY is a corrupt mess. And people like Laura Ingersoll dont even know what the "right" thing is anyway. ASU DECLARATION

[CTRL] ] Fwd: Leave Party, Reform Chairman Tells Ventura

1999-10-02 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Ventura made a mistake by getting into social issues An albatross also on Buchanan back... A Reform Party is needed for GOVERNMENT REFORM to eliminate corruption, remove special interest influence, cut down the vast bureaucracy,stay home and mind our own business. You could

[CTRL] The Bush Family's Nazi Legacy

1999-10-02 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- The Bush-Nazi link is more than " the Bush run Union Banking". The following is from my book AMERICAS SECRET ESTABLISHMENT page 169. (1-800-343-6180 Liberty House Press) This is never reported in the US Media.Even Drudge wont run it .. In 1932 the directors of Union

Re: [CTRL] WHY MARS ORBITER WAS NOT LOST

1999-10-02 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Peter Agreed.I thought NASA used metric only ? Do you know any other large organization that uses two systems of measurement. Something odd here. ASU? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic

Re: [CTRL] Medical Mafia, CIA Drugs

1999-10-03 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Samantha Mullins should scare you and remind you of Hitler He is a great admirer of the fascist poet Ezra Pound. But I dont know about his "internal logic". Mullins is very selective with data and uses some which is downright false You cant arrive at truthful answers this

Re: [CTRL] COALITION TO END MEDIA BIAS........WARNING

1999-10-05 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Now we need a COALITION TO END CEMB BIAS. I sent CEMB four posts as a TEST. Guess what? They posted two messages criticising Clinton. They ignored two messages on Bush drug traffickingeven tho I offered evidence. Mike Ruppert (ex LAPD) says witnesses are being

[CTRL] Re Monsanto Puts Terminator Seeds on the Shelf YES!! Now for ...

1999-10-06 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Beware the global wolf! Terminatoe seeds are on the shelf FOR NOW. Monsanto hasnt given up on Genetic manipulation.it has stated explicitly that the drive for GM will continue. in conjunction with Rockefeller Foundation.. Rockefeller Foundation gave us the the mind

[CTRL] FREE ENERGY AND CONSPIRACY..... A COMMENTARY

1999-10-07 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- The literature and discussion of free energy is increasing dramatically both on the Internet and print literature. Recently a free energy promoter took out a full page advertisement in USA DAILY to promote his "system". Unfortunately the gentleman has a rap sheet for fraud in

Re: [CTRL] IAHF declares war on duckbreath Stephen Barrett

1999-10-08 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- The State has no authority to tell us what to do with our bodies or how we heal ourselves. Actions against alternate healing are to maintain the monopoly power of pharmaceutical medicine. The State should be using the Sherman Act to break up up monopoly, not use its police

Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: SNET: [piml] * PSYCHICSPY.COM -- the REAL X-Fi...

1999-10-10 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Russian research "far in advance of our own". Who came up with this canard.? They dont have the funds to keep their labs going. Remember all through the Cold War CIA never did figure out the backward state of Soviet technology...CIA was too busy trying to build a bigger

Re: [CTRL] NASA FILM SHOWS UFOs

1999-10-14 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- We went over the tape repeatedly because we owe it to our subscribers to present the most accurate truthful information available The tape raises a hundred questions. I would call it genuine.. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange

Re: [CTRL] [0] BETRAYAL - Our Occupation of Germany

1999-08-04 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- k One minor point...he says word of the end of the war came before "evening chow". His memory is off. I took the cease fire radio message for our little unit and it was 6AM...in the early morning. T DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and

Re: [CTRL] Bush Refuses to Answer Rumors of Cocaine

1999-08-16 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- What kind of Governor is Bush Jr ? we are finding out. He sure doesnt like the tough questionshe is the ONLY candidate that refused to answer the cocaine question. Clinton at least would give you a tightly defined legalese answer. This guy just refuses to answer !

Re: [CTRL] Clinton/. Bush Cocaine Problems

1999-08-17 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- It looks as if we might have a President and a Governor with cocaine problems...this is NEWS. "Rumors" says Mr Bush. These rumors have been around for years...its time the evidence was examined. When the same information comes from an LAPD Narcotics Detective, a

[CTRL] GAVIN PHILLIPS-- REPLY TO PUBLICEYE.ORG

1999-09-09 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Thank you Gavin for pointing out these apparent discrepancies Let me try to explain the problem. Ive been working away at this conspiracy area in its various aspects since about 1960, and so has Ed Griffin, whom I have known for 20+ years with much respect . Back in the

[CTRL] rE publiceye piece

1999-09-09 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Dave Could you do me a favor? Remember the piece you sent re PUBLIC EYE, RE their interview with Craig Hulet ? Could you send me a copy? I dont have a scanner and I want to send a copy to PUBLIC EYE...they dont beleive they ever made such an interview, If you could also

Re: [CTRL] Triviation: 09-09-00-99

1999-09-09 Thread ASu2431426
. ASU2431426 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically

Re: [CTRL] WACO

1999-09-09 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- SEE Committee on the Judiciary, EVENTS SURROUNDING THE BRANCH DAVIDIAN CULT STANDOFF IN WACO TEXAS APRIL 28 1993 On page 31 Sensenbrenner questions Reno. It reads as if Associate Attorney General Designate Hubbell was the link between White House and Command Center at

Re: [CTRL] rE publiceye piece

1999-09-10 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Yea. I spotted the Gramsci line right off DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many

[CTRL] Re FBI squashing authors

1999-09-10 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Interesting . Its a stupid move but they do it. I can vouch for CIA illegally attempting to suppress a book I sat right across the table when they ran the attempt on.my BEST ENEMY MONEY CAN BUY complete with the threat " you wont survive" Im not ready yet to release

Re: [CTRL] Bonesman Senator John F Kerry

1999-09-11 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Kris As you say, a fine upright gentleman is this Senator Kerry. When are you going to drop the other shoe, Kris ? Looking forward to Part Two! Tony DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are

[CTRL] Re FBI squashing authors

1999-09-11 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Joshua 2 Here is an extract from the publishers brochure: "President Reagan asked the American ;people to spend $300 billion to defend an enemy the West virutally built. In effect the US taxpayer has been funding two defense budgets--their own and the Soviets. Senator Steve

Re: [CTRL] Reno: Courageous Cluelessness?

1999-09-11 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Not bad. idea.. I think she is just out of her depth. I once counted 30 cover ups in DOJ and she is hostage to a bunch of corrupt old timers. Reno is the fall guy designate.and Danforth will set the scene ASU. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and

Re: [CTRL] Education Meltdown

1999-09-12 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- What we have is a Hegelian system of education where the child is conditioned to become subordinate to the State.( Hegels"march of God on earth"). John Dewey the NEA darling was pure Hegelian and designed the system where the state is absolute and Schools of Education reflect

[CTRL] Heads up and Waco, British Special Forces there?

1999-09-12 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Jamieson Here' the complete list of dead by citizenship US 47 British 25 Australia 8 Canada 2 Israel l New Zealand 2 By race is also interesting White 40 Black 29 Hispanics 6 Asian 3 Polynesian 2 Asia-mixed 2 Shades of Georgetown!!Whites slightly in minority

Re: [CTRL] DRUDGE: KGB JFK assassination

1999-09-12 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Of course you can look at this another way...that CIA added some extra disinformation documents to the original Mitrokhiv archives... they both lplayed the same game. And Risen should know that. After all he works for NEW YORK TIMES with the motto "all the news that fits"..

Re: [CTRL] [prj] Rothschild/Economist; militas/weapons; Ft. Knox ...

1999-09-12 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- re FORT KNOX GOLD I think the problem is that the Fort Knox gold stock is not "good delivery" gold. The stock is "coin melt" which cannot be sold on the world market without refining. This of course is gold from coins seized from the American public in 1933. Who got the

Re: [CTRL] COINCIDENCES AT WACO

1999-09-12 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Yes, coioncidences for the sClinton WH and no doubt Danforth will call them "judgement calls" and as such cannot be included in his investigation You and I would have BATF Buford and the Medical Examiner Peerwani No #1 on the witness list.. . ACS. DECLARATION

[CTRL] congressman Ron Paul

1999-09-14 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Congressman Ron Paul does not get the publicity he deserves. Originally he was a medical doctor and...as he puts it stepped down in the world to become a Congressman.. His constituents have stuck by him, there are repeated efforts by the Republican establishment to ease

[CTRL] It happened again (Fort Worth Massacre)--Right on ...

1999-09-16 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Has anyone looked at use of prescription drugs (prozac, ritilin, hydrazine, librium etc) by these individuals... I mean actually looked at the autopsy and police reports in a statistical way, not just annecdotal reports. would appreciate any literature references. ASU

[CTRL] The glorious capitalist free market economic system.

1999-09-16 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- You say "supporting causes or individuals" does not seems to be...working. Believe me it IS WORKING. I can remember the 1960's when a mere handful of writers, and organi zations., were at work., and 99% of citizens laughed at conspiracy. Its a different world today...one poll

[CTRL] Fwd: Campaign to End Media Bias [CEMB]

1999-09-17 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- CEMB is only interested in "bias" against Bush...nobody else is in the race according to CEMB..from CEMB postings so far anyways. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed.

[CTRL] Outing Spies

1999-09-18 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Yea, good example of their fear of "conspiracy" is CEMB ( COMMITTEE TO END MEDIA BIAS) CEMB banned discussion of conspiracy.and postings are being pulled CEMB is a Bush site...only non conspiratorial favorable items to Bush are allowed. They got problems. Censorship

[CTRL] SWAT Nation [rant]

1999-09-18 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Whew! In general I agree...but some comments. l. Too late for rational solution, yes. What I am concerned about is a bunch of irrational hotheads fomented by "agents provocateurs" kicking off a self defeating fight against the State. Let events unfold naturally. 2.

Re: [CTRL] Borden of Yale '09

1999-09-18 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Maybe all the "Christians" flocking to Bush should ask these same questions or at least ask Bush to answer them.how can they support a candidate with satanic associations? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting

Re: [CTRL] Rauchen Verboten !

1999-09-18 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- You can push this argument too faranybody in Germany in 1945 will tell you that the currency used was not marks or the allied money but coffee and cigarettes...especially cigarettes.. ASU DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange

Re: [CTRL] The Origins of the Public School

1999-09-19 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- BEYOND MICHAEL JOHNSON Its a pity that Michael Johnson does not push his argument into conspiracy territory. No need to be shy. The facts are well documented. . Horace Mann and Thomas Dewey were indeed instruments in transforming education into a State condition ing

Re: [CTRL] individual vs. state

1999-09-19 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Yea.It could read "community and individual" vs the state. I used a shorthand "the individual" ( which in aggregate comprise community) to emphasise individuality and for simplicity. I am gradually forming the idea that VOLUNTARY communities may be the way out of our

[CTRL] SNET: ACC ACCUSES WACKENHUT OF HARASSMENT

1999-09-19 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Its about time someone sued Wackenhut... they show up in the strangest places...PROMIS software, Danny Casolaro case, cocaine in Colombia, electronic interception, obstruction of Congress yet nobody sues them.!. Looks like a civilian group operating with Government authority.

Re: [CTRL] JFK Jr. and the 13TH LINE

1999-09-19 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- The SS ( Schutzstaffel) was organized by Reich Leader Heinrich Himmler, this organized the Keppler Circle later known as Himmlers Circle of Friends The Circle had about 40 members including people from Standard Oil and ITT. List of some members in WALL STREET AND THE RISE OF

[CTRL] The myth of the liberal campus

1999-09-20 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Seems to me "progressives" (Left Hegelians) would be advised to keep quiet else more citizens will learn the truth and pressure Congress and State Legislatures to cut funding. . Under the Gramsci Marxist flag and PC nonsense they already have a grip on most Universities,. the

Re: [CTRL] [CIA-DRUGS] RICO

1999-09-21 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Maybe CEMB (Coalition to end Media Bias) needs alittle education on media suppression of cocaine trafficking. The E-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ernie Lane) He appears to be i/c but doesnt believe suppression exists. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and

[CTRL] COLD FUSION CONSPIRACY

1999-09-21 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- PROOF OF SUPPRESSION FOR TEN YEARS THE WORLD HAS BEEN TOLD THAT COLD FUSION IS A HOAX AND A FRAUD The truth is now emerging.There was a US Government conspiracy to hide the truth from the world.CF or low energy nuclear reaction (LENR) is a revolutionary process which

[CTRL] DENNIS LEE

1999-09-22 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- hILARY DENNIS LEE ? Weve followed Dennis Lee for years in Future Technology Intelligence Report.. We have had nothing but complaints from subscribers., a rip off. He refuses to get his devices tested independently and continues to take in other peoples money. Ask him

Re: [CTRL] BATF explosives list from Federal Register

1999-09-23 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- McVeigh was alleged to have used ammonium nitrate explosive mixture and ANFO ( fuel oil+ ammonium nitrate) If you accept General Partins excellent work someone used either C4 plastic explosive or . amatol(very sensitive) or similar on the steel girders. ANFO/black powder isnt

[CTRL] CEMB COALITION TO END MEDIA BIAS

1999-09-23 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- CEMB is a bunch of thin skinned Bushkins adrift in a sea of reality. It took us three tries to get across the idea that the Bush family is linked with drug trafficking..There is enough prima facie evidence to warrant official investigation.. In fact there is a case in

[CTRL] :/Denver Bio-Chem Attack Alleged Imminent]

1999-09-24 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Count me as skeptical, very skeptical, about the Denver rumors. About 12 months ago I had a FRANTIC phone call about imminent CBW attack. But this one said "dont tell anyone". I didnt And there is good reason we should do nothing here. Terrorists do NOT broadcast their

Re: [CTRL] FW: [Fwd: Unsettling prospect]

1999-09-24 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- If you have accurate information down to nationality of these terrorists I trust you have already given it to the FBI...this is the only organization with the capability to handle such a situation .if it exists. You are not doing anybody a service spreading it over the

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] The Cokeheads' Country

1999-09-25 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- WALL STREET JOURNAL writers need to go back to college and re-take Econ 1A Treat cocaine like soybeans.. that eliminates the $1 billion War On Drugs, reduces the need for a massive prison system (70% are drug cases) , keeps the US Military at home. What massive

Re: [CTRL] ClintonÕs ÔInfo-WarÕ Underload

1999-09-25 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- SAME OLD PROBLEMS...the carbon filament bomb was the most ingenious... you can have unlimited information but its useless unless you know how to use it. Emphasis seems to have been on low leverage situations, Mickey Mouse stuff. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a

Re: [CTRL] PLEASE RESPOND

1999-09-25 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- I have already responded DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths,

[CTRL] TOTAL GUN SEIZURE IN ENGLAND

1999-09-25 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- All GUNS in England have been seized by the Government and will be destroyed. British gun owners did not believe they would do it...its too late now. The message from (former) gun owners in England to gun owners in the States is...YOU ARE NEXT ADDENDUM Back in 1933

Re: [CTRL] TOTAL GUN SEIZURE IN ENGLAND

1999-09-25 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- tTHIS IS FOR REAL ON TV AN HOUR AGO. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many

Re: [CTRL] TOTAL GUN SEIZURE IN ENGLAND

1999-09-25 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- correction . Checked it out ...it was an infomercial for NRA, Yure right. Checked with British sources. Nothing there. Stupid NRA isnt gonna make any friends this way. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting

Re: [CTRL] more on Wackenhut (pt. 1)

1999-08-26 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Interesting fact on Wackenhut. They have only ONE office in Germany, France or Japan. Large industrial countries. Wackenhut has 12 OFFICES IN Colombia and 6 in Ecuador. This points to a cocaine interest. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and

Re: [CTRL] Nixon and Watergate Bibliography

1999-08-27 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- K has anyone checked SB list against this biblio? there is a link in the Kennedy assassination. Why not include ASE on the list, ? it might spark some work. Your package will go out tomorrow.. I got enough info for you to describe one rig, owned by Bush in detail,

Re: [CTRL] White House blamed for secret unit at Waco

1999-08-27 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- How long have you been around? It COULD be Chinese disinformation, but I doubt it.. On the other hand the Government does so many stupid things its hard to avoid the idea of conspriacy. Example: Washington built up the USSR with "trade" and technology. Catalogued in my book

Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: Spin-meisters, G.W. Bush Jr. And The New World Order]

1999-08-28 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Faction Three ? More deception! These statist crooks have always prided themselves on "pragmatism" and "deception" FactionThree is just another route to split a growing awareness and oppositon. The REAL problem is statism and corruption.and none of these power hungry

Re: [CTRL] Corporate Mysticism

1999-08-28 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- John Dewey and Bertrand Russell "foes of repressive insitutions'? Where did you find that canard ? read the history of Hegelian thought my friend.. ASU DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds

[CTRL] financing Nazis

1999-08-30 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Damian B Cooper must be sensitive about this issue to use a phrase like "old shop worm propaganda crapola". Damian you dont know beans about Nazi financing. About 1968 I was rooting around in the Hoover Instituion tower and found a batch of German bank transfer

Re: [CTRL] Our web domain blocked

1999-08-30 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Re: domain blocked: GE FOODS. This sounds like NSA.workFew months ago the private conversations of the British Minister for Health-- who is pro labelling- were intercepted and given to Monsanto. This is pure fascism. The Government works for a select few firms.!. This

Re: [CTRL] Project Echelon: worldwide WIRETAP, Congress, NSA butt...

1999-08-31 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- More floss.The Committee Chairman is Rep Peter Goss ( R-Florida) Goss is former CIA COVERT OPERATIONS.. We call it conflict of interest, the Congress calls it business as usual. How far is investigation of Echelon going with this Chairman? Then youve always got the

Re: [CTRL] Project Echelon: worldwide WIRETAP, Congress,NSA butt...

1999-08-31 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Bill Yup! You got it. The Hegelian dialect in operation You cant have war without an enemy or more war for more peace T. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed.

[CTRL] DEFENSES AGAINST DROUGHT AND TERMINATOR SEEDS

1999-08-31 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- FTIR publishes a report' WATER FROM THE AIR. age old methods of generating water from the air..even in the desert. Eight methods described including air wells, dew ponds and fog screens With diagrams and construction details $20.00 from FTIR PO Box 2903, Sacramento CA

Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy authors and Biases?

1999-09-01 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- I am glad you put the question mark after Pro-British?, I left England in 1952 (thats almost half a century ago) I was disgusted with socialism. I have been a US citizen since 196l. Before I left England I was told in no uncertain terms that I was going to be blacklisted

Re: [CTRL] Query for Anthony Sutton

1999-09-01 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- This is what I have been working on these last ten years. Anomalies have been disregarded by science. These have accumulated. New. technology like cold fusion and transmutation has enormously difficult time to emerge because of vested interest in the status quo.. The

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Why Dubya Isn't in JAIL/Why US Presidents so OFTEN ...

1999-09-02 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Notice how the attack on Clinton seemed to originate in London? And if you take away the token names SB is very much old line English families. No sb's named Dubonnet or Shikelgruber. Push this further. doesnt Bush Sr have a knighthood or something ? and I seem to remember

Re: [CTRL] A couple more Conspiracy authors and Biases?

1999-09-02 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- John Think youve got em all.There is a considerable French literature, anti Rothschild, anti semetic. Coleman puzzles me. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed.

[CTRL] Should we trust the government?

1999-09-03 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Thank you for the Waco posting/ Wake up people!.It is no longer "right" and "left" it is "us" versus "them". We have a police state gone crazy,. with a bought Congress. Waco was revived because of stubborn individuals looking for the truth. Not by either of the

Re: [CTRL] Why the Canisters surfaced NOW after six years.

1999-09-03 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Danforth ? The same old gamea Blue Ribbon Committee cover up. Can you post more information on Danforth ? Waco murdered everyday citizens ..(plus 26 kids)lets have a couple of everyday citizens on the Committee.. This is supposed to be "government by the people".

[CTRL] : Homeopathy

1999-09-03 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Read Michel Schiff THE MEMORY OF WATER (Homeopathy and the battle of ideas in the new science)Published by Thorsons in England 1994. You may have trouble buying it in the US. Harper Collins told FTIR THE BOOK WAS NOT TO BE IMPORTED. On page 26 you will find the

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Waco's Little Rock Connection

1999-09-03 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Has anyone seen the original search warrant? Ive been asking this for five years with no answers. ANTONY C SUTTON DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not

[CTRL] Joyce Riley on Art Bell 9/2/99

1999-09-04 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- HERE IT IS AGAIN .. 'there was no legal search warrant" We have been asking around for 5/6 years "..where is the search warrant" ? Any attorneys out there want to comment ? This was an illegal armed assault by the military and law enforcement on American citizens.

[CTRL] NEWMAN SUPPRESSED TECHNOLOGY.

1999-09-04 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- The world has been waiting for decades for NEWMAN to allow independent verification of his technology The key is INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION.. We have recommended for years in FTIR that Newman take his technologydown to the University of Arizona Engineering Department for

Re: [CTRL] CORROBORATIVE INFO FROM THE JOURNAL OF APPLIED PHYSICS

1999-09-04 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- It is NOT verified unless there is INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. Newman has been citing these journals for years. You can cite all you want. You have zilch until it is done INDEPENDENTLY AS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange

[CTRL] TW 800: ...

1999-09-06 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- This explanation fits the radar plots published in LE MATCH (PARIS) and Pierre Salingers work Also FBI agent in charge Kallstrom resigned after TW 800 and is now Vice President for a credit card company. We noted in the press conferences that Kallstrom made a definite

Re: [CTRL] (no subject)

1999-09-07 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Judith Good idea! The only mind control case I know right now is the Lambros case. But Lambros is in Leavenworth and very difficult to deal with. I ran across another many years ago- Diana de le Vega...a CIA vicitm. This is only mind control ? We need "Government

[CTRL] REPLY TO PUBLICEYE.ORG

1999-09-07 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Thank you Dave for posting the comments on my work by "public eye.org" PUBLIC EYE has a problem. Either (lA) they cannot read English or (B) they have mental dyslexia My positions on topics cited are a mirror image of their reporting (l) Anti-semitic? If you read my WALL

Re: [CTRL] JANET RENO SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH MURDER ONE!

1999-09-07 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Agreed. Murder is murder whether committed by the State or an individual The State is merely a fiction controled by an elite for their own control purposesso successfully that they have convinced citizens that murder committed by the State is not murder.Hegel called

[CTRL] Warrant of Agent Davy Aguilera

1999-09-07 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Thank you Jean Staffen for making the Waco warrant available. THIS is a warrant from a US Government Agency ? agent Aguilera is acting on behalf of the US Goverment with unsupported gossip.? God help us! Looks as if ATF wanted to make a big show at budget time to influence

[CTRL] DANFORTH

1999-09-08 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- What a joke! Reno is going to appoint a Washington insider as "independent" investigator. Why not a citizens committee? It was ordinary citizens that got killed by these thuds. I would trust a farmer, a steel worker and a teacher before another one of these Blue Ribbon

Re: [CTRL] Hegel [repost]

1999-10-16 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Mornin Das Goat Just read your Hegel piece for the first time ! I spent quarter century in Universities in several countries and I do not recall any idiot professor with your brilliance of exposition...this should be required reading. Ive been trying for years to say that

[CTRL] New energy LAWSUIT

1999-10-20 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Dear David Crockett Williams Two sources for information/support: (l) Eugene Mallove INFINITE ENERGY PRESS [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2) Hal Fox Institute for New Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you do NOT find an attorney within a couple of weeks please contact us and we will

[CTRL] Time for civil disobedience ??

1999-10-22 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- DAS GOAT makes good practical sense. If you want to commit suicide and aid the almighty state go challenge it openly and see what happens.! They have the guns and the system. Dont be foolish. Dont tip your hand. Dont be identiifable. Dont go the violence route. Makes good