Re: [CTRL] Mr. Blackwell
-Caveat Lector- On 14 Jan 99, , YnrChyldzWyld wrote: But now that Lewinsky is coming off as 'a good girl', e.g. she's kept her mouth shut and hasn't been running off to the tabloids to tell her story, I don't think she can do that until the trial is over. Can she? sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mr. Blackwell
-Caveat Lector- Yea, and Chelsea, the hideous Madelyn Albright, and the hard-faced Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Or) all make Paula Jones look like a Baywatch Babe --- but you never hear that spin. Congratulations, you've picked up one of the Big Media's subtle propaganda signals: discredit Linda Tripp. Here's some more in case you haven't figured them out yet: Monica: good, victim, sympathetic figure; Betty Currie, good, victim, honorable woman (HA!), Alan Greenspan: good, wise, wiser than wise (incidentally, aligator skinned Alan Greenspan makes John Wayne Gacey look like a Matinee star, chew on that one awhile from the point of view of your above joke); I could go on, but the implication of all the "jokes" about the very courageous Linda Tripp is that you can't be good if you look so awkward on camera. . Finally, and this is no joke, -- watch Hillary's eyes -- she looks like she's moving ever closer to the need for a full blown exorcism. Jim Condit Jr. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 11:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Mr. Blackwell -Caveat Lector- You have to admit one thing -- Linda Tripp makes Hillary look like a Baywatch Babe! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mr. Blackwell
-Caveat Lector- My question to all is there a 2nd Olympia Snowe. The one I am familiar with is OLYMPIA SNOWE FROM MAINE Are we talking about the same person here.??? Lynne who is totally unaware of an Olympia Snowefrom OR DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mr. Blackwell
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/14/99 5:01:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: rom the point of view of your above joke); I could go on, but the implication of all the "jokes" about the very courageous Linda Tripp is that you can't be good if you look so awkward on camera. . Finally, and this is no joke, -- watch Hillary's eyes -- she looks like she's moving ever closer to the need for a full blown exorcism. Jim Condit Jr. You're right. Linda Tripp looks fabulous at all times, and she is just the kind of person all of us wish we had for a best friend. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mr. Blackwell
-Caveat Lector- Prudy Lynne - Lynne - I'll stand correction, Olympia Snowe may be from Maine, I thought I read on a TV program (caption under her) she was from Oregon. But I'll stand corrected. Prudy -- You've joined the "can't quite get on point" club on this list, a growing segment whose members set up his or her own straw man rather than respond point for point -- I didn't say Linda Tripp looked fabulous, I said she looked awkward. Also, I'd take Tripp over Monica as a friend anyday -- Monica wanted Tripp to lie under oath, remember? Linda Tripp had been called a liar by Blumenthal or one of Clinton's advisors. So Tripp defended herself. Lucianne Goldberg, who coached Tripp, is always a straight shooter who always mows down any opposition on any show she's on. There's no way in Hades Clinton's boys will try to make Goldberg a witness. Monica says she was raised to survive by telling lies. Probably says the Kol Nidre (our oaths will not be oaths, our promises will not be promises) every year. What great best-friend material, eh? Jim Condit Jr. P.S. If anyone can give a benign interpretation to the Jewish Kol Nidre prayer, supposedly "absolving" all who say it from any oaths than made in the past year or will make in the coming year --- if anyone can give a benign interpretation to this Kol Nidre prayer -- I'm willing to listen and would love to hear it. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Mr. Blackwell -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/14/99 5:01:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: rom the point of view of your above joke); I could go on, but the implication of all the "jokes" about the very courageous Linda Tripp is that you can't be good if you look so awkward on camera. . Finally, and this is no joke, -- watch Hillary's eyes -- she looks like she's moving ever closer to the need for a full blown exorcism. Jim Condit Jr. You're right. Linda Tripp looks fabulous at all times, and she is just the kind of person all of us wish we had for a best friend. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mr. Blackwell
-Caveat Lector- Looking for devils, scapegoats. Jewish religion is not a monolith. I would recommed that you go to a local synagogue and talk to some real live jewish folk about your concerns. A Wise man once said,paraphrasingly"Do not take oaths." Extrapolate on that. Look more at enterprises using intell/mob type operational capabilities and proclivities. MHO Om K In a message dated 1/14/99 6:31:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. If anyone can give a benign interpretation to the Jewish Kol Nidre prayer, supposedly "absolving" all who say it from any oaths than made in the past year or will make in the coming year --- if anyone can give a benign interpretation to this Kol Nidre prayer -- I'm willing to listen and would love to hear it. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mr. Blackwell
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Jim Condit Jr. wrote: Congratulations, you've picked up one of the Big Media's subtle propaganda signals: discredit Linda Tripp. Here's some more in case you haven't figured them out yet: Monica: good, victim, sympathetic figure; Yes, remember when this all broke, and the Clintonistas were all over Ms. Lewinsky as 'that stalker', etc. -- all the jokes about how 'fat' she was, how 'ugly' she is, etc. etc. You see the same thing at work with Paula Jones, all the comments on how ugly she is, speculation about nose jobs, etc. (So much for the lip-service these people make regarding women's rights, they are the WORST when it comes to evaluating women solely on their looks)... But now that Lewinsky is coming off as 'a good girl', e.g. she's kept her mouth shut and hasn't been running off to the tabloids to tell her story, well now their spin is to present her in a more sympathetic light, which means laying off on the 'fat chick' jokes...but now it's Linda Tripp's turn, big bad Linda Tripp who 'tricked' Lewinsky into leaving incriminating statements on tape... Quite frankly, Blackwell's always been a big nothing -- I mean, do you ever hear of the guy any time except when he comes out with his list? He's not a professional designer (altho he may like to make that claim), and when it comes down to it, he could put all of Washington DC on his worst dressed list... And that includes Hillary, whom he put on his best dressed -- those pantsuits of hers are laughable, make her look like some PTA matron circa 1978, and emphasizes how 'broad in the beam' she's gotten... Finally, and this is no joke, -- watch Hillary's eyes -- she looks like she's moving ever closer to the need for a full blown exorcism. Jim Condit Jr. There's something to astrology, when it comes to describing people's personalities, and how they will act/react in certain situations Hillary Clinton is a Scorpio, which can manifest as either an eagle or a snakeshe seems to definitely be in the 'snake' vibration of Scorpio, coldly eying the opposition, assessing the opportune moment to strike... June === The melancholy days are come, the saddest of the year, Of wailing winds and naked woods, and meadows brown and sear. -- Wm. Cullen Bryant: The Death of the Flowers === *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Mr. Blackwell
-Caveat Lector- Jim Condit Jr. wrote: -Caveat Lector- Yea, and Chelsea, the hideous Madelyn Albright, and the hard-faced Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Or) all make Paula Jones look like a Baywatch Babe --- but you never hear that spin. Congratulations, you've picked up one of the Big Media's subtle propaganda signals: discredit Linda Tripp. Here's some more in case you haven't figured them out yet: Monica: good, victim, sympathetic figure; Betty Currie, good, victim, honorable woman (HA!), Alan Greenspan: good, wise, wiser than wise (incidentally, aligator skinned Alan Greenspan makes John Wayne Gacey look like a Matinee star, chew on that one awhile from the point of view of your above joke); I could go on, but the implication of all the "jokes" about the very courageous Linda Tripp is that you can't be good if you look so awkward on camera. . Finally, and this is no joke, -- watch Hillary's eyes -- she looks like she's moving ever closer to the need for a full blown exorcism. Jim Condit Jr. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 11:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Mr. Blackwell -Caveat Lector- You have to admit one thing -- Linda Tripp makes Hillary look like a Baywatch Babe! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om Madeline Albright reminds me of the evil octopus lady in Little Mermaid. Rick DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Mr. Blackwell
-Caveat Lector- From Reuters/Variety Tuesday January 12 7:30 PM ET Linda Tripp named year's worst-dressed woman By Arthur Spiegelman LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Calling her a ``sheepdog in drag,'' fashion gadfly Mr. Blackwell named tape-and-tell troublemaker Linda Tripp the worst dressed woman of 1998 Tuesday. The award adds a new wrinkle to the bad publicity Tripp has endured since giving Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr tapes she made of erstwhile best friend Monica Lewinsky talking about her affair with President Bill Clinton. But Mr. Blackwell, the no-first-name fashion designer whose annual worst-dressed list has become a Hollywood tradition, insisted at a news conference that his naming Tripp as poorly-clad public enemy number one was not political. ``This is not anything more than a fashion statement. Linda Tripp is a shaggy sheepdog in drag, the 'Starr' of her own 'Stylegate','' the fashion expert said as he unveiled his 39th annual list. Tripp, who has become the butt of talk show hosts and TV skits, ranked as a fashion disaster ahead of second placed Madonna, whom Blackwell dismissed as a ``glitzy gargoyle'' and a ''neo-Gothic fright,'' and third-placed Titanic movie star Kate Winslet, who Blackwell said should have sent her wardrobe down with the doomed ocean liner. Carmen Electra, the on-again, off-again wife of basketball ''bad boy'' Dennis Rodman, was fourth on the list, called ''fashion Viagra in heels'' by Mr Blackwell, whose own giant pinky ring and glittery diamond stick pin saying ``Big Mouth'' might not, themselves, rank as fashion classics. Singers Courtney Love and Mariah Carey were fifth and sixth on the list, respectively, with Love described as looking more like ``cold cuts and Spam'' than the ``Goddess of Glam.'' Blackwell dismissed Carey as ``shrinkwrapped cheesecake.'' Seventh and eighth were actresses Marisa Tomei and Sigourney Weaver. Of the latter, Blackwell said she was ``the high priestess of fashion pretense.'' He added, ``If you are looking for an 'Alien' call Sigourney.'' In ninth place was actress Sandra Bullock whom Blackwell dismissed as a ``Victorian lamp shade on the loose.'' In last place was ``ER'' star Alex Kingston. ``She mixed, she matched...she missed,'' Blackwell said. Blackwell said he did not put Monica Lewinsky on his list because ``I liked the way she looked at the beginning of all this -- with the large hats and that French look. But now she is slipping. She is beginning to look like a 'Valley Girl'.'' He praised first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton as having her own unique look and put her on his best-dressed list along with actresses Gwyneth Paltrow, Minnie Driver, Kim Basinger, Gloria Stuart, Roma Downey and Julia Roberts, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, Sweden's Crown Princess Victoria and talk show queen Oprah Winfrey. Blackwell said picking his worst-dressed list this year was not easy. ``Trust me, it is not a pretty sight. It was a year that has seen an endless stream of couture catastrophes and fashion blasphemies...If I want to watch out-of-control dinosaurs, I'll check out Congress.'' Reuters/Variety AER The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
