[CTRL] [Fwd: Spin-meisters, G.W. Bush Jr. And The New World Order]

1999-08-28 Thread Nicola Molloy

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"NewsHawk Inc." wrote:

 8.27.99
 Spin-meisters, G.W. Bush Jr. And The New World Order

 We feel it necessary to address certain "rumors" now circulating which
 have been generated by a "mill" of some renown.

 The "mill" has recently put out an article in which they wax positively
 ecstatic and giddy about their extensive elbow-rubbing with countless
 "G-men" and other varieties of feds at the recent "Global Sciences
 Congress" in Denver, Colorado.

 These hordes of feds were cited by the "mill" as having provided same
 with massive amounts of "information" (?) and play by plays on the ins
 and outs of what's going on in the country right now; in terms
 of which factions are vying with which other factions in the realms of
 power politics and such, for control of the future direction of our nation.

 Prominent among the claims made by these sources was that G. Dubya Bush,
 handpicked by the lords of the New World Order to be our next President
 (no, don't worry; no voting needed!), has in fact recently decided to
 switch his allegiance to the cryptically-named "faction three."

 OUR understanding of "faction three"--based on information from sources
 OTHER than spooks or "G-men"--is that it pretty much represents the
 'business as usual" crowd. In other words, the people who think that the
 NWO's plans to exterminate and/or incarcerate hundreds of millions of
 human beings are just a little extreme and what's much more important,
 BAD FOR BUSINESS. They like things PRETTY MUCH as they are because they
 MAKE A LOT OF MONEY THIS WAY.

 We find it impossible to believe the gangsters and cutthroats of the
 Bush empire have ANY genuine consideration or "benign" intentions at
 heart for the PEOPLE in regard to their apparent conflict with the 'New
 World Order". We see this conflict, if factual, as really nothing more
 than squabbling and infighting for dominance among different factions of
 gangsters and murderers.

 There is no doubt George Bush Sr. and probably some or all of his sons
 are MAJOR crooks, drug-runners and murderers. As in Iran-Contra, Panama,
  etc., etc., etc., etc. (though we can't be absolutely certain of this
 in regard to his sons--only that Jeb and Dubya are BIGTIME drug-users
 and dealers)

 A good example of how the Bushes "do business" is the murderous rampage
 waged against the innocent people of Panama by President George Bush;
 all so he could topple from power and reel in his BUDDY Manuel Noriega;
 before Noriega could go rogue on Bush and started spilling all kinds of
 beans about just what kind of pies Georgy Porgy had his fingers in: make
 that had his whole BODY in--up to the EYEBALLS.

 Anyway, according to the line of "information" fed to the "mill" by
 legions of spooky folks at Denver, Dubya and daddy (Heroin) Poppy Bush
 have decided to bail on the New World Order and cast their lot with the
 faction three crowd.

 Corollary to this is the contention that Dubya, though a coke-fiend of
 epic proportions and in addition an all-round cretin, is really not so
 bad after all, and is probably responsible for the fact that the Texas
 Department of Public Safety and the Texas Rangers have decided to
 torpedo an already fast-sinking ship--the Clinton Administration/federal
 government/NWO coverup about the Waco massacre.

 Another corollary to this is that the reason anybody anywhere is hearing
 ANYTHING about Dubya's coke habits and Poppy's coke/heroin importation
 and distribution is for that very same reason: that the Bushes have
 decided to throw their lot and their inestimably vast fortune behind
 faction three as opposed to the New World Order. Therefore, in order to
 bring Dubya and Poppy back into the New World Order fold, Dubya is
 getting hell in the press over the cocaine issue, and if he doesn't come
 back on board his presidential ambitions will be dust in the wind. In
 fact this last aspect DOES make some sense and we made this EXACT point
 in a recent article we published. AGAIN however, we CERTAINLY don't
 believe that G. Dubya, Poppy or anyone associated with them in any way
 has any genuinely benevolent agendas running at all.

 Tangentially, we at NewsHawk have been getting prodded from various
 quarters to "lay off' Dubya and Poppy on the "drug thing" for this very
 reason--because they are better than they alternative.

 Well, guess what. We don't agree. What's more, for the "rumor mill" or
 anyone else to put such unqualified faith in the utterances of federal
 spooks, spin-meisters and other weirdos on ANY issue seems to us the
 absolute height of insanity--a common definition of insanity being
 repeating the same action over and over but expecting to get a different
 result. In other words, no SANE person would expect to be getting
 anything resembling "truth" from the mouths of these KINGS of lies and
 disinformation who have utterly misled everyone in sight since the dawn
 of time--or certainly since the dawn of color TV.

 Trying to 

Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: Spin-meisters, G.W. Bush Jr. And The New World Order]

1999-08-28 Thread ASu2431426

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Faction Three ? More deception!

These statist crooks have always prided themselves on "pragmatism" and
"deception"

FactionThree is just another route to split a growing awareness and
oppositon.   The REAL problem is statism and corruption.and none of these
power hungry  maniacs will drop these objectives.

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Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: Spin-meisters, G.W. Bush Jr. And The New World Order]

1999-08-28 Thread Linda Minor

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"NewsHawk Inc." wrote:

 The "mill" has recently put out an article in which they wax positively
 ecstatic and giddy about their extensive elbow-rubbing with countless
 "G-men" and other varieties of feds at the recent "Global Sciences
 Congress" in Denver, Colorado.

 These hordes of feds were cited by the "mill" as having provided same
 with massive amounts of "information" (?) and play by plays on the ins
 and outs of what's going on in the country right now; in terms
 of which factions are vying with which other factions in the realms of
 power politics and such, for control of the future direction of our
nation.

 Prominent among the claims made by these sources was that G. Dubya Bush,
 handpicked by the lords of the New World Order to be our next President
 (no, don't worry; no voting needed!), has in fact recently decided to
 switch his allegiance to the cryptically-named "faction three."

 OUR understanding of "faction three"--based on information from sources
 OTHER than spooks or "G-men"--is that it pretty much represents the
 'business as usual" crowd. In other words, the people who think that the
 NWO's plans to exterminate and/or incarcerate hundreds of millions of
 human beings are just a little extreme and what's much more important,
 BAD FOR BUSINESS. They like things PRETTY MUCH as they are because they
 MAKE A LOT OF MONEY THIS WAY.


I'm not sure that's what RuMills said or that the interpretation is valid.
From what she says below, she doubts that Bush and Bush have actually joined
Faction Three--only that they appear to have.  Her next installment seems to
have been interrupted by her computer problems and lack of funds.  Now her
credibility is being attacked by NewsHawk.  What's going on here?

Linda Minor


The full George W. Bush story will be told in a following article. The
whole
story is far too complicated to be told in this rambling note. To tell the
whole
story of "Dub", it is necessary to tell the story of Faction Three... both
the
civilian and the military sides, and the incredible story of how they have
gained control of 80% of the money in the world.

To change the world forever, in a positive way, all that is needed is a
signature in a blue book! There are two people who can provide this
signature. One of them is holding out for 25% of all the world's wealth. By
demanding 25% for himself alone, this person has isolated himself in a sea
of
sharks. Either he is insane or he is trying to strike some sort of a deal.
If
he doesn't see the light soon, and sign the blue book,  he will see the
light!
* * * * *

One of the other unusual pieces of trivia that greeted RMNews upon our
return, was an article about our Founder in Chief, Gunther Russbacher.
Someone has dredged up an old article and has begun circulating it along
with a lot of negative comments which disparage and attack Russbacher's
reputation and his claim to be a CIA operative.

It has been a long time since anyone attacked Russbacher's credentials and
credibility. The article that is being sent around was written in 1990. It
states
that when Russbacher was arrested for impersonating a Navy officer he had
his Navy  Captain's bars on upside down. This  piece of blatant
misinformation was used to discredit and dismiss him in the minds of the
uneducated media.

If you think about this statement logically you will realize that the person
who made the statement was either a paid government liar, or an incredibly
ignorant man.

An Army Captain has bars. A Navy Captain has Eagles because a Navy
Captain is equivalent in rank to an Army Colonel a full bird Colonel
also
wears Eagles on his shoulders.

How many of you have seen an Army Captain's bars? Is there anyway that
they can be pinned on a uniform upside down? I haven't seen an Army
Captain's bars since I pinned them on my brother. As I remember, there was
no way the bars could be upside down... sideways maybe... or crooked, but
upside down NO WAY!

But Russbacher wasn't wearing an Army Captain's bars. If he had pinned
anything on his uniform  upside down, it would have  been his Navy
Captain's Eagles. The FBI portrays Russbacher as the world's greatest
conman.  Do you really think the world's greatest conman could have pinned
his   Navy Captain's Eagles on his uniform  upside down? Don't you think
he or his wife would have noticed that the Eagles were upside down?

But Russbacher wasn't wearing the uniform that would have permitted him
to wear  Navy Eagles. He was wearing summer whites. Summer whites have
shoulder boards. For anyone who has ever been in the NAVY or watched
JAG, you will see that shoulder boards cannot be put on upside down. In
other words, the misinformation about Russbacher having his Captain's bars
pinned on upside down, was a blatant lie  put out to discredit him.

The article served its purpose. It discredited Russbacher and made him look
like an incompetent idiot. It took two full years of 

Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: Spin-meisters, G.W. Bush Jr. And The New World Order]

1999-08-28 Thread Kris Millegan

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What is going on indeed?

It is called info-war, and the best one can do is to read it all, sift and
discern.

Disinfo and mis are tools of the trade. Mainstream media is not 'news' it is
propaganda and sway pieces.

My daddy told me that over thirty years ago and he had been out of the fray
for ten years at that.

He also said you learn much from the mis/dis - look to where they are sending
folks, AND look at what is left out.  The play is the game and the game is
the play.

Conspiratism is an interesting force and has been shown by history, a
conspiracy theory doesn't need to be true to make an impact upon our world
and everyday lives. Conspiratism is being used and has been used for
deception and priming the 'fear' pump. Work 'em up into irrationality and
hope it doesn't bite you.

Caveat Lector means more than beware of what you read, but also recognize the
fact that what you read effects you, and be wary of what you believe from
what you read.

And after having one's personal beliefs in 'how the world operates'
shattered, leaves a void which can be filled by . . .  'creamcheese' or any
other 'satisfying concepts'. Fear and ignorance then supply basis for jumping
off the cliff into a morass of shifting sands with false rocks of hate and
prejudice to cling and build houses that roil with the waves of time.

The hoodwink of many generations is being pulled off—que sera, sera.

Onwards to the utmost of futures!

May god bless us all.

Om
K

In a message dated 8/28/99 6:17:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm not sure that's what RuMills said or that the interpretation is valid.

From what she says below, she doubts that Bush and Bush have actually joined

Faction Three--only that they appear to have.  Her next installment seems to

have been interrupted by her computer problems and lack of funds.  Now her

credibility is being attacked by NewsHawk.  What's going on here?



Linda Minor


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==
CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic
screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing!  These are sordid matters
and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright
frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor effects
spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;
be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
nazi's need not apply.

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[CTRL] Fwd: Spin-meisters, G.W. Bush Jr. And The New World Order

1999-08-27 Thread Kris Millegan





8.27.99
Spin-meisters, G.W. Bush Jr. And The New World Order

We feel it necessary to address certain "rumors" now circulating which
have been generated by a "mill" of some renown.

The "mill" has recently put out an article in which they wax positively
ecstatic and giddy about their extensive elbow-rubbing with countless
"G-men" and other varieties of feds at the recent "Global Sciences
Congress" in Denver, Colorado.
 
These hordes of feds were cited by the "mill" as having provided same
with massive amounts of "information" (?) and play by plays on the ins
and outs of what's going on in the country right now; in terms
of which factions are vying with which other factions in the realms of
power politics and such, for control of the future direction of our nation.

Prominent among the claims made by these sources was that G. Dubya Bush,
handpicked by the lords of the New World Order to be our next President
(no, don't worry; no voting needed!), has in fact recently decided to
switch his allegiance to the cryptically-named "faction three."

OUR understanding of "faction three"--based on information from sources
OTHER than spooks or "G-men"--is that it pretty much represents the
'business as usual" crowd. In other words, the people who think that the
NWO's plans to exterminate and/or incarcerate hundreds of millions of
human beings are just a little extreme and what's much more important,
BAD FOR BUSINESS. They like things PRETTY MUCH as they are because they
MAKE A LOT OF MONEY THIS WAY.

We find it impossible to believe the gangsters and cutthroats of the
Bush empire have ANY genuine consideration or "benign" intentions at
heart for the PEOPLE in regard to their apparent conflict with the 'New
World Order". We see this conflict, if factual, as really nothing more
than squabbling and infighting for dominance among different factions of
gangsters and murderers.

There is no doubt George Bush Sr. and probably some or all of his sons
are MAJOR crooks, drug-runners and murderers. As in Iran-Contra, Panama,
 etc., etc., etc., etc. (though we can't be absolutely certain of this
in regard to his sons--only that Jeb and Dubya are BIGTIME drug-users
and dealers)

A good example of how the Bushes "do business" is the murderous rampage
waged against the innocent people of Panama by President George Bush;
all so he could topple from power and reel in his BUDDY Manuel Noriega;
before Noriega could go rogue on Bush and started spilling all kinds of
beans about just what kind of pies Georgy Porgy had his fingers in: make
that had his whole BODY in--up to the EYEBALLS.


Anyway, according to the line of "information" fed to the "mill" by
legions of spooky folks at Denver, Dubya and daddy (Heroin) Poppy Bush
have decided to bail on the New World Order and cast their lot with the
faction three crowd.

Corollary to this is the contention that Dubya, though a coke-fiend of
epic proportions and in addition an all-round cretin, is really not so
bad after all, and is probably responsible for the fact that the Texas
Department of Public Safety and the Texas Rangers have decided to
torpedo an already fast-sinking ship--the Clinton Administration/federal
government/NWO coverup about the Waco massacre.

Another corollary to this is that the reason anybody anywhere is hearing
ANYTHING about Dubya's coke habits and Poppy's coke/heroin importation
and distribution is for that very same reason: that the Bushes have
decided to throw their lot and their inestimably vast fortune behind
faction three as opposed to the New World Order. Therefore, in order to
bring Dubya and Poppy back into the New World Order fold, Dubya is
getting hell in the press over the cocaine issue, and if he doesn't come
back on board his presidential ambitions will be dust in the wind. In
fact this last aspect DOES make some sense and we made this EXACT point
in a recent article we published. AGAIN however, we CERTAINLY don't
believe that G. Dubya, Poppy or anyone associated with them in any way
has any genuinely benevolent agendas running at all.

Tangentially, we at NewsHawk have been getting prodded from various
quarters to "lay off' Dubya and Poppy on the "drug thing" for this very
reason--because they are better than they alternative.

Well, guess what. We don't agree. What's more, for the "rumor mill" or
anyone else to put such unqualified faith in the utterances of federal
spooks, spin-meisters and other weirdos on ANY issue seems to us the
absolute height of insanity--a common definition of insanity being 
repeating the same action over and over but expecting to get a different
result. In other words, no SANE person would expect to be getting
anything resembling "truth" from the mouths of these KINGS of lies and
disinformation who have utterly misled everyone in sight since the dawn
of time--or certainly since the dawn of color TV.

Trying to paint Dubya and/or Poppy as anything other than vicious,
vindictive, bloodthirsty murderers, pillagers and